LadyExcellency:


You don't give to God, you bless humanity through giving and in turn God recognises it as an act of righteousness if given with good intentions.

Reward for giving is a law of nature just like gravitational force. (what goes up must come down) but righteous giving when done according to the scriptures (not according to Apostate motivational speaker's demand) attracts divine providence.

You don't give to God? Pls let me know if you are a Christian or an Atheist. Or you are the kind that hardly read the Bible and have no desire to learn? Give me scriptures to back up what you said if you are a Christian and prove me wrong

GoodBoi1:

You don't give to God? Pls let me know if you are a Christian or an Atheist. Or you are the kind that hardly read the Bible and have no desire to learn? Give me scriptures to back up what you said if you are a Christian and prove me wrong

Don't differentiate God from his Creations and how the circle of the Universe operate

God doesn't eat neither is the Most High God in need of any perishable goods and services.

LadyExcellency:


Don't differentiate God from his Creations and how the circle of the Universe operate

God doesn't eat neither is the Most High God in need of any perishable goods and services.

It's obvious you likely don't have knowledge of God's word (the scriptures). So even if I try to explain some simple things that is expected of a Christian with spiritual understanding to know and believe. You will likely disagree with me. I might reply you later but my advice is get a 6 months or 1 month Bible reading plans, you start with New testament. Pray for the Holy Spirit to teach you. Endeavor to read it from beginning to end. Believe me your mentality will change. Also read books and study materials on topics like giving to answer questions you have believe me when you hear the truth, you will know. Let me ask you one question. Do you believe that God is the owner of all you own? I hope you are not an Atheist fronting as a Christian in order to cause confusion for other christians

GoodBoi1:
It's obvious you likely don't have knowledge of God's word (the scriptures). So even if I try to explain some simple things that is expected of a Christian with spiritual understanding to know and believe. You will likely disagree with me. I might reply you later but my advice is get a 6 months or 1 month Bible reading plans, you start with New testament. Pray for the Holy Spirit to teach you. Endeavor to read it from beginning to end. Believe me your mentality will change. Also read books and study materials on topics like giving to answer questions you have believe me when you hear the truth, you will know. Let me ask you one question. Do you believe that God is the owner of all you own? I hope you are not an Atheist fronting as a Christian in order to cause confusion for other christians

Please stop this imaginary dogmatic Christianity.

I am a born again, spirit filled Deeper Lifer.
I teach my Students practical Christian living and not imaginary worldly compromises and obsession with worldly acquisition.

I an a Scientist/Engineer hence my field of work influences my understanding of our Most Holy God who don't condone sin in whatever guise.

I believe in Holiness without which no human will see or inherit the Kingdom of God.

You pompously declared that tithing was rebuked by Jesus in the new testament and I asked you to show proof and if it is so I will denounce Christianity for God allowing somebody to mislead me about tihe and until now you have not published a single verse of ” the two or three passages ” you claimed rebuked tithe and tithing.

What does that make you? A liar in the service of the devil against Gods word. I do not need to tell, you that curse is in the house of every liar let alone the one that lies against the very word of the scripture and against those who propagate it. You are therefore curse with a curse for the scripture cannot be broken. Those who mislead a soul, it says it is better they were never born than contemplate the curse that awaits them let's lone the one that misleads and encourages more than a soul against God.

What do you stand to gain by lying that Jesus Christ rebuked tithing and therefore makes it practice unChristian? The only gain serves the interest of the devil because the gospel is hampered by that your devilish evangelism against one major means of publishing it.

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YOU DIDN'T REMEMBER THAT I USE A SMARTPHONE WHEN YOU POSTED THIS VERSES BUT NOW DO WHEN I ASKED YOU TO POST FROM THE NEW TESTAMENT


The first tithe was to be spent on travel and worship expenses for attending the annual feasts in Jerusalem (Deut. 14:22-26). The second tithe made provision for the Levites who ministered in the Temple (Deut. 14:27, Num. 18:21). The third tithe was collected every three years and distributed to the poor and needy (Deut. 14:28-29, 26:12). THIS was the tithing law that Jesus accused the Scribes and Pharisees of neglecting.

Re read them yourself, unless those passages were written by the devil, anyone would understand that. Comprehension isn't that hard.

Hakeem12:
I believe you use a smartphone capable of google search. I have no interest in whether you convert or not, that's your goddamn business. There are 5000 religions, and you thinking going against yours alone is devilish isn't just stupid in itself, it's pathetic. A stupid person like that shouldn't have been born

Please in which verse of the Bible did ”Jesus accused the scribes and Pharisees of neglecting ”tithing?

LadyExcellency:


Please stop this imaginary dogmatic Christianity.

I am a born again, spirit filled Deeper Lifer.
I teach my Students practical Christian living and not imaginary worldly compromises and obsession with worldly acquisition.

I an a Scientist/Engineer hence my field of work influences my understanding of our Most Holy God who don't condone sin in whatever guise.

I believe in Holiness without which no human will see or inherit the Kingdom of God.

I thank God for you, there is so much to know about the ways of God. You don't have to remain a baby Christian forever. Being spirit-filled doesn't mean one is a matured Christian. We having to keep growing in our knowledge of the Lord. Whether you attend deeper life, winners or RCCG it doesn't matter. You have to grow in God's word. For you to call the things of God imaginary shows that your faith is not up to that level if you can't believe in what you haven't seen. I guess you see it as imaginary because you can't explain it with science. Grow in the faith and be established in it. Even me I pray God helps me to grow too. Don't be satisfied with
just being a 10-commandments Christian.

GoodBoi1:

You are missing the point. Whether they gave for seed sowing or for his need or to help other christians. First it was between them and God and before even him. As he clearly stated that they gave themselves first to God. Jesus Christ said be it done unto you according to your faith. A Christian with spiritual understanding will know that there is blessing that comes with giving because the scriptures said it is more blessed to give than to receive. As a giver the right mindset is that we are not just giving to the church, or to the needy or a pastor as your kind like to believe. No, we are giving to God regardless of who receives it because the blessings come from God. We are merely stewards of whatever wealth God entrusted us with. It belongs to him. If someone that is rich and that you adore like Buhari, Jonathan, Messi or Ronaldo asks you to give him some money, you knowing fully well that this person doesn't really need it, won't you gladly give him something "presentable" because of the respect and admiration you have for him, even though you might not have much. You will likely think that what you will get in return will exceed whatever you gave. How much more God? He doesn't need your money. It belongs to him in the first place and we should be willing to serve him with it if He is truly first in our lives. I should have posted a lot of scriptural references as I usually do but I'm not in a good position now. The Macedonian begged to give because they had the mindset that it was a service to the Lord as any christian should.
If a believe is convinced about something and has faith to do it. It actually is between them and God and not any man. The fact that you don't hfave faith for it doesn't mean you should condemn those that do

all your points , baseless

silibaba:
all your points , baseless

Tell me how they are baseless, Sir. If you are referring to scriptural backups, I clearly stated it there that I was not in a good position when I typed that but if you want I will break down everything I said with scriptures, parables etc to help your understanding. It's so sad that there are "Christians" who do not actually believe what they claim to be. How can you be a christian yet you find it hard to BELIEVE the word of God. Are we christians so that we can write something when filling forms?

I laugh at your wisdom... so basically any one that those not share your beliefs should shut up and that is your definition of Christianity. Lack of tolerance and poor manners and you still feel Boko Haram is bad?

newsynews:


Any person who can't tell someone spreading falsehood to shut up is not a Christian.

tonyimadu:
I laugh at your wisdom... so basically any one that those not share your beliefs should shut up and that is your definition of Christianity. Lack of tolerance and poor manners and you still feel Boko Haram is bad?

Why was Jesus and John the Baptist always saying woe to the Pharisees and even calling them vipers? Because they were spreading falsehood. Bt according to you, John the Baptist and Jesus were Boko Haram members.

Builderman:
Some years back, after a Sunday morning Mass in Abuja, a young and a good looking lady walked up to me. She was holding a fat brown envelope. She handed the envelope to me and said I should please pray for her.

I asked her about the content of the envelope and what particular intention would I be praying for?
She told me that she started working just a month ago and that she came to thank the Lord and to offer the first fruit of her work for God’s blessings.
What was in the envelope was her salary for that month. Her first salary. The entire money! Everything!.

In all honesty, I was speechless not for lack of words but for being unable to know where to begin. Inside me I was like: do people still entrust everything they have to God in a child-like simplicity like this? I was really moved.

In my heart, I said a prayer for her, that type of prayer that is deep down, it was as though it was the Holy Spirit Himself that was praying through me. I was feeling the answers to the prayers even before I finished praying.

Then she knelt down, I laid my hands upon her and blessed her and the money.

After prayers, I asked her to tell me how much was in the envelope. She said Eighty Thousand Naira.

Then I asked, “how much covers your transport to your work daily?”.

She said “approximately N1,000 naira to and fro, Father.” That means for 27 work days, it would be N27,000.

Then I spoke up again, “Sorry o, I am asking you too many questions, how much do you feed daily when you go to work?”.
She answered “It depends. If I want to eat so well, I spend 800 naira with drinks, but mainly I spend just N500, and sometimes I carry food from home.”

So, I made the calculation in my head. Let say she spends 500 naira daily, 27 work days would be 13,500 naira.
I went ahead to enquire about her accommodation and I discovered that she stayed alone in an apartment she just rented. We made the calculation by dividing the annual rent by 12 months and we discovered that if she was to pay rent monthly, it would be N12,500.

Her monthly electricity and water bill with other fees for house maintenance was put at N10,000....On phone calls and data, we approximated it to be N5000 monthly. Her monthly DSTV subscription was around N3,600 for DSTV family bouquet.

When you put all the expenses together and subtract it from the N80,000, she would be left with N8,400 to buy food stuffs and other things in the house.
These are the expenses that she wss sure to spend every month. We had not even talked about other things like make up, doing her hair, clothes, gifts to family and even savings.
This is a huge sacrifice, in my judgement. I intentionally asked her those questions so as to ascertain the depth of her sacrifice.

I brought out the envelope, bless it for the second time and gave it to her. I looked at her countenance and I knew she was not too comfortable with my action. Then I took time to explain the Bible to her. That was when I discovered that so many people do not truly understand how God works.

When God asks us for first fruit or for tithe or for any sacrifice, it is not so that He will eat it. No! He has no need of our money. When He asked Abraham to sacrifice his only son, it was not because he liked seeing the blood of innocent children.

When He asked Abel and Cain to make a sacrifice to Him, it was not because he ate fruit or even drank blood of rams. It is simply to test how committed we are, how willing are we to leave everything to Him. Do we, like Cain, select offerings that we no longer desire and give to Him or do we, like Abel, empty everything to Him?

This lady that brought the first fruit began to understand for the first time. Right from when she put the money in the envelope to bring to God, God had already accepted her offering. The minister must not spend the money. It is just that most of us ministers are unfortunately greedy. And we use God’s name to cover it up. We often see the part of scriptures that favour our stomach.*

Theologically, when you give to God, He transforms that gift and gives it back to you. The bread and wine people offer before mass are transformed to the body and blood of Christ and given back to the people to eat and drink.

The son Isaac that Abraham gave to God, was transformed to be a channel that would bring....forth the fulfillment of God’s promise and given back to Abraham.
The offerings of bread and fish people brought were prayed upon and given back to them to eat and they were filled, still there was left over.

The water they filled at the wedding in Cana is given back to them as wine..
The Ugwu Kelvin that my parents offered to God, is given back to them as a priest.

The money that the young lady brought to me as her first fruit is blessed and given back to her as pure gift from heaven.

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Thank you so much for the education. Even as a member of the household of God, I have understood even better by this write up about the mystery of giving your First Fruit.. God Bless you.