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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 8:35am On Sep 03, 2019
musa234:
Tunubu and his puppets will be put to shame come 2023 insha Allah. A northerner must take after Buhari whether Apc or Pdp ,then the vice can either be any of the southern region. The north is in dire need of development and infrastructure.
The north has igbo support come 2023 we want to start building links

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by madenigga(m): 8:37am On Sep 03, 2019
To me, i nominate Atiku and Fayose.

Right now igbos should just calm down for a while until power is taken away from Apc completely
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Mraphel: 8:37am On Sep 03, 2019
mrvitalis:

North countributed more votes to APC so they should get it

South west wanting the president instead of backing south east has opened the door for the north and the south east would back the north
Igbo does not want presidency, they want and prefer hausa and fulani man but yorubas and other southerners prefer a southerner.

Igbo are not ready for presidesy yet otherwise they will stop hating okorocha and buhari to work towards their goal
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Mraphel: 8:38am On Sep 03, 2019
madenigga:
To me, i nominate Atiku and Fayose.

Right now igbos should just calm down for a while until power is taken away from Apc completely
Remove atiku. Tinubu will defeat atiku
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 8:40am On Sep 03, 2019
harjorlarh:
lol this northerners think southerns are stupid,i[b]f the cabal fields another northern candidate,the only interpretation the south will see it as will be Islamization and fulanisation,the North would be smarter than that,i hope for their sake[/b]


Precisely bro. Unless you have the weakest partner in the world, most reasonable folks have the strength and conviction to walk away from a relationship cheat in the end. Igbos can do their usual saboteur thing, because they remain dedicated to frustrating the Yorubas, and the Northern hawks are welcomed to take advantage of that.

What I know is that the SW will not accept such treachery from the North after shedding blood to help Buhari and the North lead for 8 years. This is why clever and visionary Northerners are warning hawkish kinsmen to support the SW in 2023. Nothing unites the SW more than injustice against our region and people - especially when we have paid our dues for others who then fail to reciprocate because some worthless and dishonourable Northerners want to reap where they have not sown.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by madenigga(m): 8:40am On Sep 03, 2019
Mraphel:

Remove atiku. Tinubu will defeat atiku
lol... Atiku...Tinubu cheesy.

Dont make me laugh
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 8:44am On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:
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Precisely bro. Unless you have the weakest partner in the world, most reasonable folks have the strength and conviction to walk away from a relationship cheat in the end. Igbos can do their usual saboteur thing, because they remain dedicated to frustrating the Yorubas, and the Northern hawks are welcomed to take advantage of that.

What I know is that the SW will not accept such treachery from the North after shedding blood to help Buhari and the North lead for 8 years. This is why clever and visionary Northerners are warning hawkish kinsmen to support the SW in 2023. Nothing unites the SW more than injustice against our region and people - especially when we have paid our dues for others who then fail to reciprocate because some worthless and dishonourable Northerners want to reap where they have not sown[/s].
Trash! Your tears haven't stated, 2023 is still far.
You 2015 treachery is waiting to be served.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Mraphel: 8:44am On Sep 03, 2019
madenigga:

lol... Atiku...Tinubu cheesy.

Dont make me laugh
You guys always laughing untill the reality comes. Tinubu will defeat Atiku by landslide
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 8:46am On Sep 03, 2019
Mraphel:

You guys always laughing untill the reality comes. Tinubu will defeat Atiku by landslide
Tinubu that struggled to deliver the SW on multiple occasions will defeat Atiku. What are you smoking? If not for dying minute rigging you think Buhari would defeat Atiku?
When did Tinubu start politics?

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 8:46am On Sep 03, 2019
mrvitalis:

If north betray yorubas like they have done in the past which region would support south west name two or even name one

Who is telling you that we need the support of others? The problem with Igbos is that you are not deep or visionary thinkers. You only see today and focus on the next meal to eat. The only thing constant in life is change. The Yorubas appreciate this saying. Once we get the signal, in todays political age, the North wants to be treacherous despite our support for them to gain power then we will move forward with strategies that ensures we fight to control our own destiny as we have always done.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Mraphel: 8:48am On Sep 03, 2019
UdechiHD:
Trash! Your tears haven't stated, 2023 is still far.
You 2015 treachery is waiting to be served.
Keep waiting till eternity.

Yoruba doesn't need igbo vote to win

Without igbo abiola won

Without igbo buhari won first and second tenure.

Without igbo Femi gbajabiamila won .


Hausas and fulanis has already betrayed the igbo people they use una and dump una grin

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 8:49am On Sep 03, 2019
UdechiHD:
Trash! Your tears haven't stated, 2023 is still far.
You 2015 treachery is waiting to be served.

Bro, swerve. You don't have the intellect to contribute anything meaningful. "Treachery, Backstabber, Betrayal". Blah, blah, blah. We know your sort so go and sit at the back.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 8:49am On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:


Who is telling you that we need the support of others? The problem with Igbos is that you are not deep or visionary thinkers. You only see today and focus on the next meal to eat. The only thing constant in life is change. The Yorubas appreciate this saying. Once we get the signal, in todays political age, the North wants to be treacherous despite our support for them to gain power then we will move forward with strategies that ensures we fight to control our own destiny as we have always done.
All this grammar u couldn't answer what region can back u if north betray u ...yet u talk about how igbos burnt bridges

U guys never learn u never do

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Enwhen(m): 8:49am On Sep 03, 2019
Mraphel:

Yes is like that, tell your politician to do d same thing bf is too late


U are part of Nigeria problems


U don't care whether the country works as long as your favourite person is there, THATS BAD


Talking about 2023 election even when the president has not even done a year in his second term is a BIG DISTRACTION TO GOVERNANCE, we keep making thesame mistake over and over again...once faction feels he has no future in the present govt. , They starts pulling it down, we should allow governance first ,maybe for the next 2years before talking 2023. We are facing econmy collapse, hardship and serious security challenges and none of u is profering solution to it but who will take over the mantle where Nigerians are dieing on daily basis within and outside the country.


You people should fear God oo, since lives means nothing to u. May God protect u beyond 2023

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by hisexcellency34: 8:50am On Sep 03, 2019
In your dream. Who will vote for Tinubu in the North?

Mraphel:

Remove atiku. Tinubu will defeat atiku
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Mraphel: 8:51am On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:


Who is telling you that we need the support of others? The problem with Igbos is that you are not deep or visionary thinkers. You only see today and focus on the next meal to eat. The only thing constant in life is change. The Yorubas appreciate this saying. Once we get the signal, in todays political age, the North wants to be treacherous despite our support for them to gain power then we will move forward with strategies that ensures we fight to control our own destiny as we have always done.

Leave them they know nothing about politics. After the winner has emerge, d Biafra nation will be screaming rigging

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 8:51am On Sep 03, 2019
Mraphel:

Igbo does not want presidency, they want and prefer hausa and fulani man but yorubas and other southerners prefer a southerner.

Igbo are not ready for presidesy yet otherwise they will stop hating okorocha and buhari to work towards their goal
All u said made no sense ...OBJ became president without south west support .....b
Joe igbokwe has said w
He want to be president why dont u back him

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Mraphel: 8:54am On Sep 03, 2019
hisexcellency34:
In your dream. Who will vote for Tinubu in the North?

I laugh you in million times...if northerner sud let tinubu to emerge in d primaries he will win d election.

The question is who will vote for Atiku in the north.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Mraphel: 8:55am On Sep 03, 2019
mrvitalis:

The north has igbo support come 2023 we want to start building links
The person you're quoting isn't hausa na igbo like you just be quoting your selfs
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by mrvitalis(m): 8:56am On Sep 03, 2019
Mraphel:

The person you're quoting isn't hausa na igbo like you just be quoting your selfs
Whats ur problem ...north has igbo support
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 8:58am On Sep 03, 2019
Mraphel:

Keep waiting till eternity.

Yoruba doesn't need igbo vote to win

Without igbo abiola won

Without igbo buhari won first and second tenure.

Without igbo Femi gbajabiamila won .


Hausas and fulanis has already betrayed the igbo people they use una and dump una grin


Don't mind the nitwit. People like him will never accept the fact that the Yorubas are the only ethnic group the North respect as a group of people capable of giving them problems and checking their excesses. Otherwise how do you account for the many Northerners now coming out to warn the North to support the SW in 2023 if not because they know the agenda of the likes of El Rufai to pull a fast one will have dire long term consequences?



https://akahinews.org/2023-presidency-why-southwest-should-produce-the-next-president-senator-hanga-reveals/


2023 Presidency: Why Southwest Should Produce The Next President – Senator Hanga Reveals


A former member of the House of Representatives and Senator representing Kano Central, Rufai Hanga, has told the North to shelve the idea of remaining in power after President Muhammadu Buhari’s tenure.

According to him, the power should return to the South and precisely, the Southwest because they will turn things around, adding that it is not because of their (Southwest) loyalty to the North, but because they have done it before and we have seen it.



The Kano-born politician also said that Igbo cannot produce next president by threats, adding that the South East and South South have little or no chance at all.

He said “To me, I wouldn’t want to say that power should remain in the North or rotate to the South, ” he told Sun.

“To me, if I were to be candid, I will rather say power should to go to the South because it is safer and more dignifying for Nigerian politicians.

“At the beginning of the present democratic dispensation, we promised zoning. The South had it, the North had it, the South should have it next.

“That one I am comfortable with. Whether it is suitable or not, that is a different question. For me, I will rather want it to go round.

“That is why I felt we should start from somewhere and begin to search for competence.

“We should give it a trial so that everything will not boil down to ethnic politics. Left for me, I will support the Southwest.

“But if I do that, people will begin to say it is selfishness because I am close to this man or that man. For me, based on competence, I will want someone from that zone to be the next man because I know they will turn things around.

“If given to them, I know they will turn things around. I am doing this for myself or anybody, but for Nigeria.

If you want to change things in Nigeria, give it to them. With those I have in mind, I am sure they will turn things around. Nigeria will be better for it. I believe so. But if another person has it, so be it.

“It is not because of their loyalty to the North, it is because they are Nigerians. Two, they have done it and we have seen it.

“Tell me anywhere else in this country that is transformed to the best place in Africa other than Southwest. No other section of this country did it than the Southwest.

“We started together, and each region was ruling itself. Which region can boast of the best performer other than the Southwest?

“That is why I believe if you get a Southwesterner, he will do for Nigeria what they did for Southwest. I am not saying this because of their loyalty to the North, I am saying because of their competence.

“This man is competent, he can do it is different from this man is competent he has done it before.

“That I have heard from the section 15 to 20 years. And like I said, we just cannot do things in a particular way because someone has threatened this or that.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Mraphel: 8:58am On Sep 03, 2019
mrvitalis:

All u said made no sense ...OBJ became president without south west support .....b
Joe igbokwe has said w
He want to be president why dont u back him
Obj became the president but it was northerner that single handedly brought him to power.

Ask yourself as igbo ever brought any candidate to power bf?
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Mraphel: 9:01am On Sep 03, 2019
mrvitalis:

Whats ur problem ...north has igbo support
Or you're trying to say igbo are ready to vote northerner atiku in pdp.


grin grin

Let's wait till then now
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 9:07am On Sep 03, 2019
mrvitalis:

All this grammar u couldn't answer what region can back u if north betray u ...yet u talk about how igbos burnt bridges

U guys never learn u never do

Bro, you are slow on the uptake. Sorry to say. Did I say the North cannot betray the SW and get away with it? I am talking of the aftermath of their action !!!! This is an era the SW has shown full backing for the North's attempt to gain power. 2015 and then 2019. If this is to be followed by betrayal of the SW by the North then we have our signal to note how we must proceed forward in view of the precedence set. Rest assured we are not Igbos to make loads of noise and then do nothing. We always learn from and rectify our mistakes unlike Igbos who keep doing the same thing over and over again to expect a different outcome. The definition of insanity.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by OfoIgbo: 9:12am On Sep 03, 2019
harjorlarh:
lol this northerners think southerns are stupid,if the cabal fields another northern candidate,the only interpretation the south will see it as will be Islamization and fulanisation,the North would be smarter than that,i hope for their sake

I don't know what you mean by south.
Yorubas have had their shot

If by south, you mean Yorubas, the other southern zones will not be passionate about asking northerners to relinquish the presidency to any Yoruba person. Even Edwin Clark said so, just a few days ago where he made it quite clear that 2023 belongs to Igbos.

If Tinubu gets the APC slot, which I seriously doubt, SE and SS will ensure a northerner gets the presidential candidacy of PDP.
If the north gets the APC slot, SE or the north will present the presidential candidate of PDP.

If the SW protests that a northerner shouldn't get the APC slot in 2023, the SE and SS will NOT back that claim, afterall the SW betrayed the SS in 2015, and also attempted to betray the SE in 2023.

The north knows the level of resolve to expect from the SW, and the current Sowore episode is supplying the needed answer.

This time around there will be no Ezeife, or Ndubuisi Kanu or Agbakoba or Ohanaeze or IPOB or Edwin Clark or any meaty person from the SS or SE to back any SW claim for the presidency. NADECO will not work this time around. Let us see how your shofishtication will work then grin grin grin tongue tongue tongue

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by hisexcellency34: 9:18am On Sep 03, 2019
Glad you said if northerners should let him emerge in the primaries

Mraphel:

I laugh you in million times...if northerner sud let tinubu to emerge in d primaries he will win d election.

The question is who will vote for Atiku in the north.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by harjorlarh(m): 9:20am On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:



Precisely bro. Unless you have the weakest partner in the world, most reasonable folks have the strength and conviction to walk away from a relationship cheat in the end. Igbos can do their usual saboteur thing, because they remain dedicated to frustrating the Yorubas, and the Northern hawks are welcomed to take advantage of that.

What I know is that the SW will not accept such treachery from the North after shedding blood to help Buhari and the North lead for 8 years. This is why clever and visionary Northerners are warning hawkish kinsmen to support the SW in 2023. Nothing unites the SW more than injustice against our region and people - especially when we have paid our dues for others who then fail to reciprocate because some worthless and dishonourable Northerners want to reap where they have not sown.

The fact of the matter remains that a southern has to emerge(Ibo or Yoruba) has president if not,the Yorubas would definitely form an alliance with the igbos we may even restructure the country,but I know the northerns,they are smarter than that
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by OfoIgbo: 9:21am On Sep 03, 2019
candidtalk:


And the North has not had enough time as leaders of Nigeria to have developed your region if your leaders are genuinely visionary and effective administrators? Look, if you are a Northerner then, I triple dare you and others to continue backing the hawkish and unfair stance of those amongst you who want to monopolise power.

Others will resign themselves to their fate but not Yorubas because we know our worth to appreciate we are the glue holding Nigeria together. Bro, let your hawks push you to a point of no return. Whatever Yorubas do in return, and whatever the result of that, you lot should accept. PDP too thought they would lead forever till the patient and deliberate strategising of Yorubas put paid to that. So gather yourselves to retain power. You and others will appreciate the meaning of the word 'myopia' afterwards.

Stop tearing your pants. SW does not have any divine right to the presidency.

The north only seeks to do to the SW, what the SW wants to do to the SE, so the southern groups will not support any gra-gra from the SW.
There is simply nothing that the SW can do in this regard, if the north intends to go for the presidency. That is the myopia that Tinubu introduced. Deal with it.

No southern group will stand in solidarity with the SW this time around. You can take this to the bank

You are here blabbing on about hawkish and unfair stance of the north, when in the same breath that is exactly the way the SW wants to wickedly muscle in to the slot that ordinarily should belong to the SE. Nemesis!!!!

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 9:23am On Sep 03, 2019
OfoIgbo:


I don't know what you mean by south.
Yorubas have had their shot

If by south, you mean Yorubas, the other southern zones will not be passionate about asking northerners to relinquish the presidency to any Yoruba person. Even Edwin Clark said so, just a few days ago where he made it quite clear that 2023 belongs to Igbos.

If Tinubu gets the APC slot, which I seriously doubt, SE and SS will ensure a northerner gets the presidential candidacy of PDP.
If the north gets the APC slot, SE or the north will present the presidential candidate of PDP.

If the SW protests that a northerner shouldn't get the APC slot in 2023, the SE and SS will NOT back that claim, afterall the SW betrayed the SS in 2015, and also attempted to betray the SE in 2023.

The north knows the level of resolve to expect from the SW, and the current Sowore episode is supplying the needed answer.

This time around there will be no Ezeife, or Ndubuisi Kanu or Agbakoba or Ohanaeze or IPOB or Edwin Clark or any meaty person from the SS or SE to back any SW claim for the presidency. NADECO will not work this time around. Let us see how your shofishtication will work then grin grin grin tongue tongue tongue

If not that Igbos are egotistic and unrealistic, who do you think has confidence in an Igbo 2023 Presidency given all your ethnic group are showing today? Why not elect a rabid Islamist to lead the Vatican then? Nonsense. Igbo 2023 Presidency is dead on arrival and no Party will give its slot to an Igbo candidate. SS cannot have it as they led directly before Buhari for more than 5 years. This leaves only the reliable, trusted and solid hands of the Yorubas from the South.

If your son becomes a dangerous drug addict you will not let him into the family house merely because he has an entitlement to be in the house due to being a blood member of the family. You look at the damage he can cause to others courtesy of what he is and the danger he poses. Get that simple concept into your head and stop talking nonsense. No one will trust Igbos with power right now. Simple as that.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by Nobody: 9:31am On Sep 03, 2019
OfoIgbo:


Stop tearing your pants. SW does not have any divine right to the presidency.

The north only seeks to do to the SW, what the SW wants to do to the SE, so the southern groups will not support any gra-gra from the SW.
There is simply nothing that the SW can do in this regard, if the north intends to go for the presidency. That is the myopia that Tinubu introduced. Deal with it.

No southern group will stand in solidarity with the SW this time around. You can take this to the bank

And we don't care !!! Do you not get what is obvious? I.e the Yorubas always act to correct their mistakes? We supported the North. The region is free to reciprocate with a betrayal of Yorubas ambition to lead that we predicated on doing all we can to enable the North lead for two terms.

We will see what happens afterwards. Igbos are poor students of history. Yorubas are not otherwise PDP would still be leading today. Where you see one day ahead we see decades into the future.

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Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by hisexcellency34: 9:32am On Sep 03, 2019
I agree with you. IPOB attacks is not helping their cause

candidtalk:


If not that Igbos are egotistic and unrealistic, who do you think has confidence in an Igbo 2023 Presidency given all your ethnic group are showing today? Why not elect a rabid Islamist to lead the Vatican then? Nonsense. Igbo 2023 Presidency is dead on arrival and no Party will give its slot to an Igbo candidate. SS cannot have it as they led directly before Buhari for more than 5 years. This leaves only the reliable, trusted and solid hands of the Yorubas from the South.

If your son becomes a dangerous drug addict you will not let him into the family house merely because he has an entitlement to be in the house due to being a blood member of the family. You look at the damage he can cause to others courtesy of what he is and the danger he poses. Get that simple concept into your head and stop talking nonsense. No one will trust Igbos with power right now. Simple as that.
Re: 2023: Division In Presidency Over Choice Of Buhari’s Successor by dadebayo1(m): 9:32am On Sep 03, 2019
Bunch of rogues.....

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