Imagine oh. We're in 2019 these useless snaps already fuelling their greed for 2023. How will government perform with this kind of mindset.

Hehehehe
kikikikikikiki
Envy?

ibechris:





At the mention of Igbo or the Igbo tribe,people like u rant in anger and extreme envy...why take ur stupidity to the national front when it is obvious u can't control this your backyard envy.

The write up above,does not in any way affects the Igbo's race nor demean their tempo. However u chose to bring up this matter to get people agitated but man,u are in for it.
Next time,u have to reason properly before u dish out discouraging words,because am so sure that,had the Igbo man not bought your fathers land in some parts of Lagos state,u wouldn't be here ranting in envy.
Lest I forget,learn to say what is appropriate at every giving time.

VillagePipu:


Not so, Igbos have no choice in this matter, they MUST support North. Even if the North pushes them away, they have nowhere to go.

We sure have a choice on a normal we can back south west ,but the have proven never to learn ,so we would back the north get back to factory setting

Relegate tinubu and his gang them form alliance with the new south west leaders unit the south middle belt and northern minority

We wont be like some people that took vice president and speaker we would make sure each region get a fair share

mrvitalis:

North has igbo support simple

And the Yorubas don't really care because we are the only ethnic group that keeps evolving politically in Nigeria. The North is still attached to central power because they myopically see this as crucial to their prosperity without realising it is the backward and conservative politics the leaders of the region practice that has condemned them to under-development.

The Igbos are inflexible mentally and cannot focus politically because their national and even world view remains limited to seeking enemies to fight instead of just accepting that politics remain about permanent interest and not permanent friendship or enmity.

The Yorubas are pragmatic and if one door closes we find another to open. DAWN initiative was devised to bypass how the PDP tried to choke the development of the SW under OBJ and then Yar Adua/GEJ. We are not Igbos to shout secession/Biafra alone or Northerners to think we must remain tied to the apron strings of Nigeria forever. We won't accept not being equal stakeholders in Nigeria as Igbos have settled for and we won't subscribe to being unfair to other Nigerians to monopolise the most influential offices in Nigeria for the benefit of ourselves and our 'big men' alone as the North does. Yorubas remain ready for whatever happens because people who seek solutions and progress always will manage to land on their feet whatever the future throws up.

http://dawncommission.org/

About DAWN Commission
The DAWN Commission is the dedicated technocratic institution for the sustainable development of the Southwest Region. DAWN Commission, was set up by the Governments of the Southwest States of Nigeria as the institutional and programme management body to midwife their Regional Integration Agenda. It is therefore the dedicated coordinating agency, fully empowered by the Governments to ensure the delivery of the composite development aspirations of the Region, as expressed in what has been generally adopted and known as the Development Agenda for Western Nigeria (DAWN).

Racoon:
The dice is cast.

'Die' as in the containment vessel used to hold molten metal while it cools and solidifies. The expression used ro connote fate accompli, something almost irreversible, terminal.

VillagePipu:
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This is my problem with Igbos. You guys have short memories, no wonder you can't trace your history.

Were you deaf when GEJ said Yorubas play Amala politics?
When Arthur Eze insulted Awolowo in the presence of GEJ and the drunkard was laughing like a bushbaby, were you in coma then?

Under GEJ, the most senior political office holder was a mere Minister - Akin Adesina.

Read this link and below stop talking nonsense.
https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan

GEJ worked hard to install a Yoruba person as the Speaker of the House of Representatives, the fourth most powerful office in the country. But Yorubas, led by Tinubu scuttled that in preference for a northerner, Aminu Tambuwal.
Yoruba was the DG of NIA. Yoruba was the chief of Air staff, and there were Yoruba ministers, one of whom was Akin Adesina, the current ADB chairman, so stop lying and showing the content of your jaundiced mind.
During GEJ's period there were more Yorubas manning the major security and intelligence formations. It was only Ihejirika that the Igbos had, but you don't see us complain about that.

With your attempt to try and steal the Igbo plot, while at the same time, trying to intimidate the north from aiming for the presidency, I believe you guys are already proving the AMALA POLITICAL INCLINATIONS you were tagged with.


My advice to the north is simple. If the SW goes for the presidency, it means zoning is dead. The north should also aspire for that position, and I can assure them that Igbos will not play that southern solidarity crap. I suspect the SS will also not be hoodwinked by any fake southern solidarity moves by the Yorubas when the times comes.

candidtalk:


Who is telling you that we need the support of others? The problem with Igbos is that you are not deep or visionary thinkers. You only see today and focus on the next meal to eat. The only thing constant in life is change. The Yorubas appreciate this saying. Once we get the signal, in todays political age, the North wants to be treacherous despite our support for them to gain power then we will move forward with strategies that ensures we fight to control our own destiny as we have always done.

Did I hear you say FIGHT TO CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY WE DIE HERE. We will all experience the result of treachery. The north MUST BE SUPPORTED, if APC fields a Yoruba man.

You are going nowhere, and if we get any of those protests, Igbos will support Operation Python Dance in the SW, if the protest has to do with some warped idea of Yorubas being denied the presidency.

ibechris:





At the mention of Igbo or the Igbo tribe,people like u rant in anger and extreme envy...why take ur stupidity to the national front when it is obvious u can't control this your backyard envy.

The write up above,does not in any way affects the Igbo's race nor demean their tempo. However u chose to bring up this matter to get people agitated but man,u are in for it.
Next time,u have to reason properly before u dish out discouraging words,because am so sure that,had the Igbo man not bought your fathers land in some parts of Lagos state,u wouldn't be here ranting in envy.
Lest I forget,learn to say what is appropriate at every giving time.

Sir, you make me laugh. As usual, it is about crass materialism for Igbos. Everyone thirsty for knowledge, and seeking to know the core character of our major ethnic groups, should read the factual chronology of Nigeria below. Note the contributions, actions and inactions of the major ethnic players in Nigeria's history.

Perhaps it will be clear to some what the Yorubas represent despite the name-calling by our detractors , from the North and South, who have been major cause of the chaos the peaceful and sensible Yorubas always find themselves in the middle of due to the actions of unreasonable, murderous and vainglorious folks around them as obtains till date some want to tout as "bravery" or "valour" when they don't know the true meaning of those words.


https://www.refworld.org/docid/469f38c5c.html

mrvitalis:
igbos and south south (65%) would support north and the north knows this

Southern unity died in 2015

What do you mean by southern unity?Did we have any agreement with anybody to support GEJ mainly because he was from the SS or what are you saying?Abi you were in Kosovo when the SW voted for GEJ in 2011 and two southern states voted for Atiku in 2019 Oyo and Ondo states as against our son that is Vice president

Do you think we the SW play tribal politics?No we dont..We simply play the politics you think is good for us henceforth what Tinubu and co did in 2015 even though it was wrong,he simply did what an average politician would do. abi you wont also do the same.. so when I see you people saying unity and saying the SW betrayed you am like was there an agreement to support GEJ for reelection in 2015 or what?Please dont angry me o

Mraphel:

Obj became the president but it was northerner that single handedly brought him to power.

Ask yourself as igbo ever brought any candidate to power bf?

Answer is YES. We brought OBJ to power

happney65:


What do you mean by southern unity?Did we have any agreement with anybody to support GEJ mainly because he was from the SS or what are you saying?Abi you were in Kosovo when the SW voted for GEJ in 2011 and two southern states voted for Atiku in 2019 Oyo and Ondo states as against our son that is Vice president

Do you think we the SW play tribal politics?No we dont..We simply play the politics you think is good for us henceforth what Tinubu and co did in 2015 even though it was wrong,he simply did what an average politician would do. abi you wont also do the same.. so when I see you people saying unity and saying the SW betrayed you am like was there an agreement to support GEJ for reelection in 2015 or what?Please dont angry me o

Sure na ..thats why we would back the north na

candidtalk:



And the Yorubas don't really care because we are the only ethnic group that keeps evolving politically in Nigeria. The North is still attached to central power because they myopically see this as crucial to their prosperity without realising it is the backward and conservative politics the leaders of the region practice that has condemned them to under-development.

The Igbos are inflexible mentally and cannot focus politically because their national and even world view remains limited to seeking enemies to fight instead of just accepting that politics remain about permanent interest and not permanent friendship or enmity.

The Yorubas are pragmatic and if one door closes we find another to open. DAWN initiative was devised to bypass how the PDP tried to choke the development of the SW under OBJ and then Yar Adua/GEJ. We are not Igbos to shout secession/Biafra alone or Northerners to think we must remain tied to the apron strings of Nigeria forever. We won't accept not being equal stakeholders in Nigeria as Igbos have settled for and we won't subscribe to being unfair to other Nigerians to monopolise the most influential offices in Nigeria for the benefit of ourselves and our 'big men' alone as the North does. Yorubas remain ready for whatever happens because people who seek solutions and progress always will manage to land on their feet whatever the future throws up.

http://dawncommission.org/

Blah blah blah it has now dawn that north wont hand over to u right ?

hisexcellency34:
Tinubu, Osinbajo should forget it. They will rather support Atiku than handover to them

Atiku ke?

OfoIgbo:


Did I hear you say FIGHT TO CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY WE DIE HERE. We will all experience the result of treachery. The north MUST BE SUPPORTED, if APC fields a Yoruba man.

You are going nowhere, and if we get any of those protests, Igbos will support Operation Python Dance in the SW, if the protest has to do with some warped idea of Yorubas being denied the presidency.

Bruv, try to keep up. We are not one way traffic (Biafra or death) like Igbos. I already gave the DAWN initiative as an example of how the Yorubas understand how to be protectionist, within Nigeria, if the overarching conditions call for it. We can be nationalist too if it suits us and the condition of the day show us that this is the way to be.

It is Igbos who are are irrevocably tied to redundant ideology i.e we can only accept Biafra" , when GEJ is out of power, or"we run Nigeria" when Jonathan, Oduah, Anyim et al held sway.

Yorubas understand that, at anytime, we can attempt to mould our land in our own image if others decide to be backward and regressive. America is the perfect example with how some States are so different ideologically and politically you would not think you are in the same nation.

mrvitalis:

Blah blah blah it has now dawn that north wont hand over to u right ?

Bruv, they will. Just telling you what may happen if they don't. That is how confident we Yorubas are in our own strength and what we bring to the Nigerian table.

candidtalk:


Bruv, they will. Just telling you what may happen if they don't. That is how confident we Yorubas are in our own strength and what we bring to the Nigerian table.

Na here we dey

mrvitalis:

Na here we dey

Bro, forget the idea that any Yoruba hates Igbos and mean them harm. The reality on the ground does not bear this out and you know it. Our main grouse is that you guys cannot let go of your enmity for Yorubas because you blame us for your loss of the civil war.

The modern Yoruba is no longer willing to be a prisoner to the guilt-tripping your fathers put our fathers through. This is why you mention 'betrayal' daily.

We are not your enemies and mean you no harm. If you wish to continue hating us blindly and trying to frustrate us then carry on. We will break Northern dominance of Nigerian politics without you. That I am sure of. For the Yorubas "where there is a will there is a way".

Nothing is constant in life but change. You Igbos may not believe this but the Yorubas do and this even explain why they voted healthily for Atiku and your Son Obi because many Yorubas felt Buhari and Osinbajo had not done enough and others deserve to be given a chance to show what they can do.

candidtalk:


You guys love revising history. The Yorubas, particularly the likes of OBJ, ensured GEJ became substantive President and supported him, against the hawkish North, to become the PDP candidate who then went on to win the 2011 elections, thanks to Yoruba votes, against Northerners in the form of Buhari and Ribadu. GEJ lost 2015 down to his own misrule the SW was not obligated to back blindly as you Igbos do for your kinsmen.

Osinbajo, our so-called son, still did not prevent the SW voting healthily for Atiku and Obi to show you bigots that 2015 was not a betrayal of GEJ but a rejection of misrule. Oyo even went to PDP in 2019 and almost Osun too. If not that you Igbos are an unfair people, you would appreciate the Yorubas as purist voters who make decisions on what is best for Nigeria rather than support misrulers blindly because of ethnic affiliation.

So you did not vote for GEJ in 2015 because of his misrule, but voted for Buhari instead for you imagined he would do better than GEJ.
And in 2019, in spite of Fulani terrorism, insecurity, you still voted for Buhari. There was no option for Yorubas to vote against Buhari for his misrule between 2015-2019. Do you really know how illogical you sound?
The SS man is punished for a minor infraction, while the northerner is rewarded by the SW for major infractions. All these expose that you are not really after justice but after myopic self-interest, even if it harms the federation. But yet you will come here to tell us that Igbos must not be voted for, because they will ruin the nation. This is the height of amala politics.

As I wrote initially, Northerners should not feel intimidated if they want to run for presidency. Igbos who have the moral authority to demand for it, will not mind northerners running for the position, afterall SWners are also running for it, and Igbos don't consider SWners as kin spirit, based on what you have written so far. Northerners should run, and they may even get our votes, if an easterner is the VP

helinues:
Must you people be a witch to someone's ambitions?

How do you expect good things to come your ways when you always wish others bad.

You guys need to change this your orientations about pulling others down even when not necessary

Cc Racoon

Lol preacher. It was your game prior 2015.

hisexcellency34:
Afonja...wee u kip kwayet?

An Osu spotted.

candidtalk:



Bro, forget the idea that any Yoruba hates Igbos and mean them harm. The reality on the ground does not bear this out and you know it. Our main grouse is that you guys cannot let go of your enmity for Yorubas because you blame us for your loss of the civil war. The modern Yoruba is no longer willing to be a prisoner to the guilt-tripping your fathers put our fathers through. We are not your enemies and mean you no harm. If you wish to continue hating us blindly and trying to frustrate us then carry on. We will break Northern dominance of Nigerian politics without you. That I am sure of. For the Yorubas "where there is a will there is a way"

Blah blah blah ...if we thought so we wont support OBJ ...we dont carry evil in our mind

All we ask is simple respect the zoning agreement u said no ...fine no wahala na nigeria we dey

We no get una time

helinues:
Must you people be a witch to someone's ambitions?

How do you expect good things to come your ways when you always wish others bad.

You guys need to change this your orientations about pulling others down even when not necessary

Cc Racoon

When and how does supporting an Hausa/Funali means pulling yorubas down? weda it is Kingibe, Kyari, Atiku, Kwankwaso, or El rufai so long as power remains in the north I am happy.

OfoIgbo:


So you did not vote for GEJ in 2015 because of his misrule, but voted for Buhari instead for you imagined he would do better than GEJ.
And in 2019, in spite of Fulani terrorism, insecurity, you still voted for Buhari. There was no option for Yorubas to vote against Buhari for his misrule between 2015-2019. Do you really know how illogical you sound?
The SS man is punished for a minor infraction, while the northerner is rewarded by the SW for major infractions. All these expose that you are not really after justice but after myopic self-interest, even if it harms the federation. But yet you will come here to tell us that Igbos must not be voted for, because they will ruin the nation. This is the height of amala politics.

As I wrote initially, Northerners should not feel intimidated if they want to run for presidency. Igbos who have the moral authority to demand for it, will not mind northerners running for the position, afterall SWners are also running for it, and Igbos don't consider SWners as kin spirit, based on what you have written so far. Northerners should run, and they may even get our votes, if an easterner is the VP

Have I denied this? More important is what the average Igbo demands an Igbo President do with the Presidency. That is the fear of others and not that we think no Igbo is capable of leading Nigeria progressively. You guys will not let even the most progressive Igbo lead effectively without harassing him and second-guessing everything he does as pro-Nigerian or anti-Igbo because of your natural anti-Nigeria disposition.

That is the main reason no one will gamble on an Igbo presidency right now even if you deserve it in the spirit of fair play and equity. Tragic Igbo has not produced the Presidency since 1999, as one of the three main Nigerian ethnic group, but whose fault is that if you are truthful with yourself?

candidtalk:


Who is "they"? You think Yorubas are without political clout and rights in Nigeria like IPOB-stained Igbos? The North knows that a strategy of monopolising power because of their alleged superior electorate population will cause discontent that will be bad for business - their business specifically since they are the most dependent on having power or being close to it.

This is why many Northerners are now coming out and warning their kinsmen to support Yoruba Presidency or prepare for a backlash that will surely come since any attempt at monopolising power will show the very cosmopolitan and pragmatic Yorubas , very loyal to helping the North lead, to chart another course forward. The North will be viewed as ingrates if they tow this path.

Unlike Igbos, Yorubas are not empty barrels and we know our worth to Nigeria beyond conducting ourselves in a loud yet impotent manner. We are not noisemakers like Igbos so I dare the North to try and scheme Yorubas out. This is when Nigeria will know Yorubas can be more insular than the China that built a wall to develop from inside and then outward in the past.

All Yorubas need to see is that the North is without honour and, going into the future, is dedicated to using her so-called superior number to remain unassailable supreme leaders of Nigeria. We will take it from there and truncate that unlike others who only know to make fake noise. You forget PDP were set to rule for 60 years, as the unassailable ruling Party, till mainly Yoruba players showed the skill and vision to deliver the APC merger that went on to thwart the monopoly of the PDP? It is not about talk bro. Many ways to skin a Cat.

Pls zombie is the power tussle between the igbos and Yorubas? in that thread I didn't see where an Igbo candidates was mentioned. Anyway if hating and attacking Igbo's at every given advantage cures your madness then you are free to go on.

candidtalk:


Who is "they"? You think Yorubas are without political clout and rights in Nigeria like IPOB-stained Igbos? The North knows that a strategy of monopolising power because of their alleged superior electorate population will cause discontent that will be bad for business - their business specifically since they are the most dependent on having power or being close to it.

This is why many Northerners are now coming out and warning their kinsmen to support Yoruba Presidency or prepare for a backlash that will surely come since any attempt at monopolising power will show the very cosmopolitan and pragmatic Yorubas , very loyal to helping the North lead, to chart another course forward. The North will be viewed as ingrates if they tow this path.

Unlike Igbos, Yorubas are not empty barrels and we know our worth to Nigeria beyond conducting ourselves in a loud yet impotent manner. We are not noisemakers like Igbos so I dare the North to try and scheme Yorubas out. This is when Nigeria will know Yorubas can be more insular than the China that built a wall to develop from inside and then outward in the past.

All Yorubas need to see is that the North is without honour and, going into the future, is dedicated to using her so-called superior number to remain unassailable supreme leaders of Nigeria. We will take it from there and truncate that unlike others who only know to make fake noise. You forget PDP were set to rule for 60 years, as the unassailable ruling Party, till mainly Yoruba players showed the skill and vision to deliver the APC merger that went on to thwart the monopoly of the PDP? It is not about talk bro. Many ways to skin a Cat.

chai...see delusions of grandeur.

Gandollaar:
Lol preacher. It was your game prior 2015.

Just as 2011 never existed in you people's calendar...

Hahahahhahah

candidtalk:


And the North has not had enough time as leaders of Nigeria to have developed your region if your leaders are genuinely visionary and effective administrators? Look, if you are a Northerner then, I triple dare you and others to continue backing the hawkish and unfair stance of those amongst you who want to monopolise power.

Others will resign themselves to their fate but not Yorubas because we know our worth to appreciate we are the glue holding Nigeria together. Bro, let your hawks push you to a point of no return. Whatever Yorubas do in return, and whatever the result of that, you lot should accept. PDP too thought they would lead forever till the patient and deliberate strategising of Yorubas put paid to that. So gather yourselves to retain power. You and others will appreciate the meaning of the word 'myopia' afterwards.

Zombie whenever you want to type trash make it snappy. Font elect anybody to give you power, go take it if you feel you deserve it, Tinubu will contest under ACN come 2023. You can wail all day long. Yoruba won't be president come 2023 you have been used and dumbed like sanitary bad

candidtalk:


Bruv, they will. Just telling you what may happen if they don't. That is how confident we Yorubas are in our own strength and what we bring to the Nigerian table.

I would love Igbos too to rule but not in 2023 because a lot of Nigerians do not want them now for obvious reasons.
Let us take Nigeria out of this sordid situation or split.
Igbos are very competent but why don´t we give power to the most competent according to the history of Nigeria so as to drive development?.
My twopence,though..

harjorlarh:
lol this northerners think southerns are stupid,if the cabal fields another northern candidate,the only interpretation the south will see it as will be Islamization and fulanisation,the North would be smarter than that,i hope for their sake

When you talk about 2019 election pls narrow it to SW. As for SE and SS power must remain in the north, preferably to a PDP or at least with APC.

Schemes

searchlight:
Pls zombie is the power tussle between the igbos and Yorubas? in that thread I didn't see where an Igbo candidates was mentioned. Anyway if hating and attacking Igbo's at every given advantage cures your madness then you are free to go on.

whatever. Do Yorubas hate Igbos or the other way round? Have you seen how your brothers are vowing to support the North just to frustrate Yoruba 2023 ambition? Can you honestly say Kwankwaso or Tambuwal will lead better than Osinbajo, Fashola or Fayemi? If you Igbos, by your own doing, have schemed yourselves out of gaining the support you need to produce the President in 2023 then why not support those who are progressive and liberal in mentality and likely to lead in ways that will impact your drives as a people seeking a level playing field?

You would rather support PDP Northerners who operate in the stratosphere of 'business as usual' politics which will ensure the retention of the status quo you Igbos hate passionately. Continue cutting your nose to spite your face. Yorubas will deliver Nigeria in the end because we will not allow the North to regress us all forever even as we have supported them to show what they can do.

candidtalk:


Who is telling you that we need the support of others? The problem with Igbos is that you are not deep or visionary thinkers. You only see today and focus on the next meal to eat. The only thing constant in life is change. The Yorubas appreciate this saying. Once we get the signal, in todays political age, the North wants to be treacherous despite our support for them to gain power then we will move forward with strategies that ensures we fight to control our own destiny as we have always done.

I trust yorubas. with only their votes they can make Tinubu president