Military87:

its reliable when newly infected. viral loads drops after some time too.

Shiiiit. So it's till 6 months then.
Has yours been up to 4 months?

Skripture:

Shiiiit. So it's till 6 months then.
Has yours been up to 4 months?

no 3months plus. dry mouth is now like an everyday thing self. oral thrush. i cant even open my tongue anymore. Saw the doctor today. he gave me drugs for the ulsers

Military87:

no 3months plus. dry mouth is now like an everyday thing self. oral thrush. i cant even open my tongue anymore. Saw the doctor today. he gave me drugs for the ulsers

Na wa o. Only if these doctors can just give us stats on the % of those who tested negative at 3 months and tested positive later, and how common it is.

Skripture:

Na wa o. Only if these doctors can just give us stats on the % of those who tested negative at 3 months and tested positive later, and how common it is.

they no know. they will tell you its conclucive. OP wasnt far from the truth. i saw a page on med help about 3 persons who were symptomatic and were negative on month 3 and longer. but later positive and most had my symptoms even dehydration. lol. i cant wait to travel back to SA. if those ones talk rubbish there or dont give an accurate explaination i will just give up.

Only Jesus can heal all manners of diseases
So brother give your life to Christ

Military87:

they no know. they will tell you its conclucive. OP wasnt far from the truth. i saw a page on med help about 3 persons who were symptomatic and were negative on month 3 and longer. but later positive and most had my symptoms even dehydration. lol. i cant wait to travel back to SA. if those ones talk rubbish there or dont give an accurate explaination i will just give up.

I've given up already.

Forget that symptoms don't mean anything talk. Glands don't just get swollen without an infection. My annoyance is the fact that it's taking too long. If i had tested positive at the 3 months mark, at least i would be getting used to it.

Skripture:

I've given up already.

Forget that symptoms don't mean anything talk. Glands don't just get swollen without an infection. My annoyance is the fact that it's taking too long. If i had tested positive at the 3 months mark, at least i would be getting used to it.

will just keep on waiting till 6months if its negative. at this point if i turn out positive i wont even cry. i had to visit a lab few hours ago. The lab attendant doesn't even know HIV test kits well she's a student though. i give up already till 6 months. if the sickness like it should progress i can do with the symptoms i am still having

Military87:

will just keep on waiting till 6months if its negative. at this point if i turn out positive i wont even cry. i had to visit a lab few hours ago. The lab attendant doesn't even know HIV test kits well she's a student though. i give up already till 6 months. if the sickness like it should progress i can do with the symptoms i am still having

True bro. Same happened few weeks back when i tested. I asked the lab attendant if it was an Elisa or rapid test, she was looking at me like a lost sheep. I had to ask her if it's the strip type of test before she understood what i was saying. At that point, i lost hope on the credibility of the result.

Skripture:

True bro. Same happened few weeks back when i tested. I asked the lab attendant if it was an Elisa or rapid test, she was looking at me like a lost sheep. I had to ask her if it's the strip type of test before she understood what i was saying. At that point, i lost hope on the credibility of the result.

stop wasting your time asking them that. even one blood bank guy had no idea what i was talking. You know HIV through blood transfusion is more here in west Africa. meaning they don't even know the proper test kit to use.
one was telling me to bring 20k to confirm. told him no wahala. oya whats the name of the test kit he's using. he wouldnt say.

Military87:

stop wasting your time asking them that. even one blood bank guy had no idea what i was talking. You know HIV through blood transfusion is more here in west Africa. meaning they don't even know the proper test kit to use.
one was telling me to bring 20k to confirm. told him no wahala. oya whats the name of the test kit he's using. he wouldnt say.

Lol.. the girl in the lab i tested said it's 15k for confirmation. Men i just need closure so as to move on with what's left of my life.
Only if the lady i slept with would agree to test again. She says i'm becoming a nuisance...chaii

Skripture:

Lol.. the girl in the lab i tested said it's 15k for confirmation. Men i just need closure so as to move on with what's left of my life.
Only if the lady i slept with would agree to test again. She says i'm becoming a nuisance...chaii

why will she test again. i didn't bother them for a test. whats the name of the confirmatory test.

Military87:

why will she test again. i didn't bother them for a test. whats the name of the confirmatory test.

She didn't say. she just gave me the list and i saw the price tag. She said it's her boss that does that one. She only knows how to do the rapid test

Skripture:

She didn't say. she just gave me the list and i saw the price tag. She said it's her boss that does that one. She only knows how to do the rapid test

funny enough if you do it. you still wont be convinced. Am i right?

Military87:
funny enough if you do it. you still wont be convinced. Am i right?

I think it's more of psychological now bro.
Even if i test negative up till 1 year, my mind is bleeped up already.

Skripture:

I think it's more of psychological now bro.
Even if i test negative up till 1 year, my mind is bleeped up already.

feels like i am talking to a reflection of myself. with all this symptoms i still don't get why the kits still negative. And in most of the sites online if you see how they were bashing all those who turned + after 3months. that they were lying and all.

Military87:

feels like i am talking to a reflection of myself. with all this symptoms i still don't get why the kits still negative. And in most of the sites online if you see how they were bashing all those who turned + after 3months. that they were lying and all.

Lol... especially people like teak and maybe Vance and Lizzie Lou. They don't even wanna you hear talk about anything beyond 3 months. Teak especially, they so much believe in the 12 weeks conclusive result.

A quick one though, is a 6 month test conclusive after 24 weeks or 26?? If you calculate by weeks it's 24 but by days it's 26. Do you think a 24 week test equates that of 26?

Skripture:

Lol... especially people like teak and maybe Vance and Lizzie Lou. They don't even wanna you hear talk about anything beyond 3 months. Teak especially, they so much believe in the 12 weeks conclusive result.

A quick one though, is a 6 month test conclusive after 24 weeks or 26?? If you calculate by weeks it's 24 but by days it's 26. Do you think a 24 week test equates that of 26?

counting with weeks is dicey.12 weeks is same as 84 days. but one might not be able to track it easily. hence the 3months mark as thats easier to track. so just try keeping it at 180 days(90*2) it makes the whole thing more accurate. i also did a rapid test again today. still negative. saw PLWHA they looked healthy. its not a death sentence after all

Military87:

counting with weeks is dicey.12 weeks is same as 84 days. but one might not be able to track it easily. hence the 3months mark as thats easier to track. so just try keeping it at 180 days(90*2) it makes the whole thing more accurate. i also did a rapid test again today. still negative. saw PLWHA they looked healthy. its not a death sentence after all

2 weeks from now makes it 180+ days for me, so I'll just test then than testing now (24 weeks). You tested in a government hospital today??

Skripture:

2 weeks from now makes it 180+ days for me, so I'll just test then than testing now (24 weeks). You tested in a government hospital today??

yeah. seems they meant to take drugs today. i saw the the line on the strip. are you still experiencing anything

Military87:

yeah. seems they meant to take drugs today. i saw the the line on the strip. are you still experiencing anything

The nodes are still there, the mouth ulcers have reduced but they still come and go.

Skripture:

The nodes are still there, the mouth ulcers have reduced but they still come and go.

why are you bothered about the nodes. they not visible. i only feel them when i touch them

Skripture:

Heard the PCR or something like that actually looks for the virus and not antibodies. But then, i've read that it's not the ideal test and antibody test beyond 3 months is the standard.

PCR is recommended when you have symptoms that look like your viral load is high but antibodies haven’t started being formed. In this case, if the PCR tests negative, then your symptoms are not due to HIV.

cocococo:

PCR is recommended when you have symptoms that look like your viral load is high but antibodies haven’t started being formed. In this case, if the PCR tests negative, then your symptoms are not due to HIV.

yeah. but mind you. the viral load drops after sometime when newly infected

Military87:

why are you bothered about the nodes. they not visible. i only feel them when i touch them

It still bothers me that they're swollen. Did you ask what generation of rapid test they use in the hospital when you tested?

Skripture:

It still bothers me that they're swollen. Did you ask what generation of rapid test they use in the hospital when you tested?

lol bro please. i didn't

Ronaldo24682:
I felt like sharing so others will learn, this might also create awareness as I feel a lot isn’t done to educate people about the insidious HIV.

I will try to be as brief as possible. Sometime this year I had a fling with a girl, I have always been careful as to use protection when I ever I have sex, unluckily for me my condom broke, I realized this immediately and pulled out, got a new condom and continued, wasn’t up to three weeks or so I fell ill, malaria like symptoms and all, during that same time I started having some hiv symptoms like.

Had to go for a test it came out negative, this was around week 4 or so. Despite this test I knew I was positive, I just had the feeling I was, the doctors and lab attendants were just playing it down, no disrespect but most lab scientists here have really poor knowledge on HIV test kits and all.

I have a drug that will reduce ur viral load. Its STC30 a stem cell product.

Military87:
lol bro please. i didn't

Oh. okay

Skripture:

It still bothers me that they're swollen. Did you ask what generation of rapid test they use in the hospital when you tested?

they tend to use 3rd generation test. so no need asking. sorry i laughed. they dont even know the generation so need asking. i just got two more injuries in my mouth. fingers crossed.

Military87:

they tend to use 3rd generation test. so no need asking. sorry i laughed. they dont even know the generation so need asking. i just got two more injuries in my mouth. fingers crossed.

Mhen we're fvcked in all sector as a nation. If it's 3rd generation, it should have detected this stuff na.

I thought they said symptoms are not meant to last this long??

Skripture:

Mhen we're fvcked in all sector as a nation. If it's 3rd generation, it should have detected this stuff na.

I thought they said symptoms are not meant to last this long??

main symptoms stops. These one are just minor. opportunistic i think. i came across a few pages where some persons were negative to antibod test after 3months but positive in the western blot, despite anti bodies being negative.
The truth is HIV as an infection is complicated. These doctors make inference from what they have seen and is common. what if you turn out negative what happens

Military87:

main symptoms stops. These one are just minor. opportunistic i think. i came across a few pages where some persons were negative to antibod test after 3months but positive in the western blot, despite anti bodies being negative.
The truth is HIV as an infection is complicated. These doctors make inference from what they have seen and is common. what if you turn out negative what happens

It's a known fact that the virus mutates. I wouldn't believe the result even if it still comes out negative after six months. Either i'm unable to produce detectable antibodies or the test couldn't just pick up the strain i got infected with. I've read about cases where 2 people didn't test positive to antibodies even up to AIDS stage, it was only confirmed through Western blot.

Skripture:

It's a known fact that the virus mutates. I wouldn't believe the result even if it still comes out negative after six months. Either i'm unable to produce detectable antibodies or the test couldn't just pick up the strain i got infected with. I've read about cases where 2 people didn't test positive to antibodies even up to AIDS stage, it was only confirmed through Western blot.

on medhelp right ?
and seems the HIV 2 which is mainly found in sub Sahara Africa is somtimes undetectable. i still didnt get why. some authors mentioned something about this happening when the test kits being used is meant for just HIV1. another quick question does our kits here check for just HIv1 or both ?

if i turn out negative. i will see my doctor again. if he says trash and give me normal drugs. i won't take. i already am used to this poor immune system of mine.