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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:57pm On Sep 04, 2019
komekn:
All this protracted talk about "buy back clause" is simply irrelevant.

It the " buy back " only become relevant if the player performs or if you like "Blows" however, KC has blown so cold he is like ice. There is now a complete diminish in his value. Who do you think will buy him for £10 million now.


Finally, you don't GET game time you earn it by consistent performances. Unfortunately KC has failed to convince three different managers that should tell us something.
Crap.

The reason Iheanacho is not getting game time is simple. Vardy has the monopoly in the striking role. Not because Iheanacho did not perform.

Lie small small. Do not let your hatred for Iheanacho consume your fairness in analysis.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:57pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Abdul ajagun-panathinaikos
Taiye taiwo- dynamo kiev
Haruna Lukman-dynamo kiev
Sone aluko- Glasgow rangers
John chibuike- rosenborg
Imoh ezekiel- standard liege
Obafemi Martins- levante
I will add to that list Victor Anichebe and Hope Akpan and with the small correction that Sone Aluko was in the EPL with Hull.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:58pm On Sep 04, 2019
komekn:
I will add to that list Victor Anichebe and Hope Akpan and with the small correction that Sone Aluko was in the EPL with Hull.
Keshi gave Hope Akpan his break. Keshi was the one who gave Aluko more chances than any other Super Eagles coach. I think same with Anichebe. Haba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:00pm On Sep 04, 2019
komekn:
I will add to that list Victor Anichebe and Hope Akpan and with the small correction that Sone Aluko was in the EPL with Hull.
By the time Michael Babatunde was in the scene, Keshi preferred him to Aluko and Babatunde proved himself at the World Cup. Not bias.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 11:05pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
And what do you call success? Winning the afcon and failing to qualify to 2 editions with the core of the same winning team?

Herve Renard won the afcon with Zambia which attracted the Ivorians who hired him and he achieved the same feat with them before moving to morroco.

Keshi won the afcon, was releaved of his job later but still couldn't get any decent footballing country in Africa to sign him after tendering so many applications, what about the case of siasia?

I prefer climbing the ladder of success gradually with good results to show for my progression on the process rather than taking 2 steps forward and 3 steps backward
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:06pm On Sep 04, 2019
Yea I forgot anichebe. Akpan was played by Keshi severally after gaining promotion with reading after the world cup. Aluko was a star then in Scotland scoring week in week out but was ignored prior to the afcon. Keshi preferred Uzoenyi instead
komekn:
I will add to that list Victor Anichebe and Hope Akpan and with the small correction that Sone Aluko was in the EPL with Hull.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:09pm On Sep 04, 2019
I am one who has put in thought into this and let us get one thing.

The management of Leicester City are not going to bench Vardy, even during games Vardy is not doing well. The only way Vardy loses his place is fatigue or injury. With that, Iheanacho who is a replacement for Vardy occupies a place on the bench where he will not be used. So they have decided to leave him out until they feel there is need to give Vardy a break. For now, if Vardy is performing well or not, he plays 90mins, thus Nacho is not needed for now.

It has nothing to do with Nacho not performing as the Haters want people to believe.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:10pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Yea I forgot anichebe. Akpan was played by Keshi severally after gaining promotion with reading after the world cup. Aluko was a star then in Scotland scoring week in week out but was ignored prior to the afcon. Keshi preferred Uzoenyi instead
Uzoenyi proved himself in CHAN. Keshi was not a coach who relied on big names but his tactics and strategies were always King.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:11pm On Sep 04, 2019
Keshi invited Aluko when he was even struggling with Hull in the epl but ignored him when he was on top form playing for Glasgow rangers in Scotland. It was after the career of uzoenyi and co stunted after the world cup that he gave Aluko a chance in the team. Prior to the 2014 world cup Aluko was balling hard for Hull city in the championship
TheGoodJoe:
Keshi gave Hope Akpan his break. Keshi was the one who gave Aluko more chances than any other Super Eagles coach. I think same with Anichebe. Haba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:13pm On Sep 04, 2019
I disagree with you on Uzoenyi. Keshi went for unknown players mainly from the local league whom he benefited from their moves to obscure leagues in Europe. This is known fact.

Uzoenyi who couldn't play for Rennes first team in Europe made the afcon and world cup team at the expense of Aluko who did very well in Scotland and the English 2nd tier then
TheGoodJoe:
Uzoenyi proved himself in CHAN. Keshi was not a coach who relied on big names but his tactics and strategies were always King.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:15pm On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Crap.

The reason Iheanacho is not getting game time is simple. Vardy has the monopoly in the striking role. Not because Iheanacho did not perform.

Lie small small. Do not let your hatred for Iheanacho consume your fairness in analysis.
I don't have any personal relationship with KC what so ever, why on earth would l hate himhuh

The answer is very simple, he has not performed commensurate with his £25 million transfer fee. He has after 51 games ( multiple opportunities) scored 4 goals that's simply ABYSMAL there is no other definition.

But certainly HATRED is not one of them.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:16pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
I disagree with you on Uzoenyi. Keshi went for unknown players mainly from the local league whom he benefited from their moves to obscure leagues in Europe. This is known fact.

Uzoenyi who couldn't play for Rennes first team in Europe made the afcon and world cup team at the expense of Aluko who did very well in Scotland and the English 2nd tier then
Sone Aluko was in the EPL for Hull at that time and doing very well.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:17pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Keshi invited Aluko when he was even struggling with Hull in the epl but ignored him when he was on top form playing for Glasgow rangers in Scotland. It was after the career of uzoenyi and co stunted after the world cup that he gave Aluko a chance in the team. Prior today the last 2014 world cup Aluko was balling hard for Hull city in the chanpionship
Uzoenyi got the nod after Echiejile injured. Uzoenyi was not on the World Cup list. It was Michael Babatunde that took the creative midfield position from Aluko.

As for the Rangers time, Keshi had some breakthrough talents who delivered like Mba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:18pm On Sep 04, 2019
Proved which self at the world cup? How old is he and where is he playing today? Keshi made you guys believe he was the next thing closest to jj at the expense of better players who are natural and creative attacking midfielders such as ajagun, haruna and Aluko.

Babatunde ko!
TheGoodJoe:
By the time Michael Babatunde was in the scene, Keshi preferred him to Aluko and Babatunde proved himself at the World Cup. Not bias.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:18pm On Sep 04, 2019
komekn:
I don't have any personal relationship with KC what so ever, why on earth would l hate himhuh

The answer is very simple, he has not performed commensurate with his £25 million transfer fee. He has after 51 games ( multiple opportunities) scored 4 goals that's simply ABYSMAL there is no other definition.

But certainly HATRED is not one of them.
Leave that thing. Your own is pure hatred. You might pretend and deceive yourself about it, but it is true. You hate Iheanacho with a passion. Yet make excuses for other players like Iorfa that Mendes Cartel dropped him. If it was Iheanacho you would write Abysmal and no goals.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:20pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Proved which self at the world cup? How old is he and where is he playing today? Keshi made you guys believe he was the next thing closest to jj at the expense of better players who are natural and creative attacking midfielders such as ajagun, haruna and Aluko.

Babatunde ko!
For you to ask if Babatunde proved himself at the World Cup, shows you totally missed the impact of the young man. Even I was among those that criticised his inclusion over Aluko but was made to shut up at the World Cup.

That was the magic of Keshi. He knew how to sprinkle his magic dust on so called ordinary players to perform beyond their known capabilities. Although sometimes he pushed his luck too far.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 11:21pm On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Crap.

The reason Iheanacho is not getting game time is simple. Vardy has the monopoly in the striking role. Not because Iheanacho did not perform.

Lie small small. Do not let your hatred for Iheanacho consume your fairness in analysis.
The funny thing is you have no STAT to defend your statement

Not goals, not even goals per minutes, not distance covered, tackles made, Shots per match

Just playing running around the bush and trading blames
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:22pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Who be dis one? cheesy
Certainly not someone who'd be found kissing a mediocre coach because of his skin color.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:22pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Who be dis one? cheesy
Certainly not someone who'd be found kissing a mediocre coach's ãss because of his skin color.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by benji93: 11:22pm On Sep 04, 2019
Your first example is disputable, it is only useful if "velverde" is a really good coach without Messi. Hell na, he is not.
For turkey they played at home, and their team is a pretty good one. Most teams try hard not to lose at home, even the weak ones. But to lose to a bunch of farmers-excuse me for using "farmers"- is a serious blight.
And did you say Magascar was the first team to qualify for Afcon 2019? Without losing a game,Bros i beg, take it back.
charlesemeka85:
Oga even the best coaches in the world lose to weaker sides. Barca last weekend just drew with promoted osasuna and lost to Bilbao a few weeks ago.

Turkey during the last fifa window won world champions 2nil at home with the French super stars on parade in an euro qualifier match.

Spurs last weekend lost to a Newcastle side tipped for the drop by the end of the season.

Losing to Madagascar doesn't rub off the positives Rohr hv brought in so far. Atleast the same madacasgar was the first team to qualify for afcon without losing a game and made it to quarter finals of the same competition
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:23pm On Sep 04, 2019
Earthquake1:
The funny thing is you have no Stat to defend your statement

Not goals, not even goals per minutes, not distance covered, chances created, Shots per match

Just playing running around the bush and trading blames
You gat to be kidding me. Vardy is yet to be benched in I think four games. What other stat do you need?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:23pm On Sep 04, 2019
I was saying prior to the afcon. And the breakout star MBA where is he today? Since then how did his career panout?

Mind u, Babatunde is not an AM but was deployed in that position during the world cup after the midfield combination of mikel, onazi and Azeez didn't gel after the first match against Iran. Due to the lack of attacking midfielders in the team keshi gambled on Babatunde in the next match against Bosnia which he did fairly well and till date is his best outting in the super eagles colors
TheGoodJoe:
Uzoenyi got the nod after Echiejile injured. Uzoenyi was not on the World Cup list. It was Michael Babatunde that took the creative midfield position from Aluko.

As for the Rangers time, Keshi had some breakthrough talents who delivered like Mba.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 11:25pm On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
You gat to be kidding me. Vardy is yet to be benched in I think four games. What other stat do you need?
In the matches Iheanacho played how has he performed to indicate he deserves more minutes
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:27pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
U can resurrect keshi or beg fifa to clear siasia so that he can coach your village team
Don't be stupid.

I said he has done nothing new with the team, and you're asking me to go resurrect the dead to come back to coach the team, does that make any sense to you??

Did you see me make a case for any local coach to be hired?

If you think Rohr is the best we can get, then that very much tells me how much mediocrity you appreciate on a personal level.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:27pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
I was saying prior to the afcon. And the breakout star MBA where is he today? Since then how did his career panout?

Mind u, Babatunde is not an AM but was deployed in that position during the world cup after the midfield combination of mikel, onazi and Azeez didn't gel after the first match against Iran. Due to the lack of attacking midfielders in the team keshi gambled on Babatunde in the next match against Bosnia which he did fairly well and till date is his best outting in the super eagles colors
When Aluko was at Rangers, Keshi chose to put fate in Mba and he delivered in a big way. You brought up Rangers. I explained why. No you are twisting the plot points.

As for Babatunde. If Aluko had gone instead of Michael, he would not have started the first leg. If he got a chance, it would have been the same chance Babatunde got. When Babatunde got the chance, he was absolutely brilliant. I was one of those on the Aluko cheering team but agreed Keshi was right in the call for Michael Babatunde.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:28pm On Sep 04, 2019
Earthquake1:
In the matches Iheanacho played how has he performed to indicate he deserves more minutes
Since Rodgers came, Nacho has not got much minutes. The chance he got was during the preseason and Nacho excelled.

Finito.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m):
Velverde is not a good coach because he has the luxury of having Messi in his team? Well that means Enrique and Guardiola are not good coaches as well.

The Turkish team is on a rebuilding process which consist of young and hungry unknown players but is that enough excuse for a whole world champions France to lose to them by 2 goals to nil?
A French team that boast of pogba, varane, mbape, greizmann, Kante just to mention a few?

Visit Google to make the findings by yourself if Madagascar wasn't the first team to qualify to the just concluded afcon even with a match to spare. If I'm wrong I will from this day believe anything you put out here without argument or disagreement
benji93:
Your first example is disputable, it is only useful if "velverde" is a really good coach without Messi. Hell na, he is not.
For turkey they played at home, and their team is a pretty good one. Most teams try hard not to lose at home, even the weak ones. But to lose to a bunch of farmers-excuse me for using "farmers"- is a serious blight.
And did you say Magascar was the first team to qualify for Afcon 2019? Without losing a game,Bros i beg, take it back.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Earthquake1: 11:30pm On Sep 04, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Since Rodgers came, Nacho has not got much minutes. The chance he got was during the preseason and Nacho excelled.

Finito.
grin

This is laughable, Rodgers that was supposed to believe in him and turn him into a prime Suarez?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:31pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
I was saying prior to the afcon. And the breakout star MBA where is he today? Since then how did his career panout?

Mind u, Babatunde is not an AM but was deployed in that position during the world cup after the midfield combination of mikel, onazi and Azeez didn't gel after the first match against Iran. Due to the lack of attacking midfielders in the team keshi gambled on Babatunde in the next match against Bosnia which he did fairly well and till date is his best outting in the super eagles colors


semid4lyfe:
Michael Babatunde "I can be Nigeria's Messi"

With his performance against Bosnia and Argentina, has Michael Babatunde justified his inclusion in the Super Eagles World Cup Squad?

Personally, I think he has. . .he's extremely hardworking, marks, back tracks & support the midfield, shoots and crosses very well and is unselfish.

For me, he's been the revelation in the team and his absence will be felt against France.

What do you think?


https://www.nairaland.com/1789130/michael-babatunde-justified-inclusion-nigerias#24310759
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:32pm On Sep 04, 2019
charlesemeka85:
Which drab display are u talking about? The same local coaches who left the super eagles in a state of dismay? Which success are you talking about?

The same success that made a certain coach hold us on hostage just because he was fortunate to win the afcon? Abi na the one wey fifa just banned for life?

Keep on living in the past
Drab display that make the boys get dominated by teams like Madagascar and Burundi. Nonsense!!

Until he wins the AFCON, qualify us for the round of 16 at the WC, he'd have just equaled the best record of his predecessors.

Keshi selected the players he thought were best for the team and they delivered, let Rohr do thesame and deliver, else we're just wasting money on someone who's offering nothing different from what we can get locally.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by junnyjake(m): 11:34pm On Sep 04, 2019
elyte89:
At times u sound so brilliant... D next minute u sound so andrew grin grin,guy no kill ursef o,rohr no sabi u grin
I don't like this.

Why the uppercut??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:34pm On Sep 04, 2019
Which MBA? During the afcon qualifiers and preparatory games keshi used Nosa igiebor mainly as the teams number 10. MBA was a bench player even to the afcon proper. He got his chance after igiebor flopped during the group stages of the afcon.

MBA is not an atm but a striker who also strives well as a SS but keshi used him in the position during the competition
TheGoodJoe:
When Aluko was at Rangers, Keshi chose to put fate in Mba and he delivered in a big way. You brought up Rangers. I explained why. No you are twisting the plot points.

As for Babatunde. If Aluko had gone instead of Michael, he would not have started the first leg. If he got a chance, it would have been the same chance Babatunde got. When Babatunde got the chance, he was absolutely brilliant. I was one of those on the Aluko cheering team but agreed Keshi was right in the call for Michael Babatunde.
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