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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:09am On Sep 06, 2019
EngrKem:
How much will it cost to put up a 6bedroom duplex with pop,parapet,good finishing?
Post some designs
At what location?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:12am On Sep 06, 2019
GenBuhari:
What is the best cost effective or free measure to prevent. criminals jumping fence into the compound when occupants are out?
Prayers and hope
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:15am On Sep 06, 2019
Dubemcapital1:



Why a bricklayer sir I suppose one of the reasons for this thread is to promote professionalism, buy professional ideas and advice for free and to have value for your money after all.

I must say that bricklayers, as well as other workforce in a construction site will always have a need for an engineer not minding how small the project might be.

If you can't pay a QS please make sure an engineer handles if possible all your consideration hence construction is involved.
Non-professional or quackery should be discouraged.

One of the reasons why professionals are not frequenting the thread as lamented by some of us some weeks ago is actually because of this reason. Someone will go and conclude an error with an inexperienced worker and come here to throw the error on the house? You have already compromised quality sir...



Dubemcapital
A Builder is needed first. If not available, an engineer may be considered. Let's put professional specialists into their right places. Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Takoro13(m): 9:19am On Sep 06, 2019
rocktowerbuilde:
Prayers and hope
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ak22(m): 9:26am On Sep 06, 2019
rocktowerbuilde:

Prayers and hope

Install CCTV and get them arrested they do so and install security fence wire
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 2:34pm On Sep 06, 2019
Tomorrowinvest:
A client need 10/15 acres to buy..
Purpose... Private Estate.
Location... Abijo to Shaparti.

Pls not far from road.

Budget..../N2.5m per plot.

Call 090.376.010.79

Somebody said they have 1000 Hectares of land in Mopo okun Ajah,
Parcels A, parcel B, parcel c.
Lands in Monestry road, sango Tedo, Happy Land, Business Law School, Ogonbo Rd, Ajah, Oko Ado, Lekki -Pennusala etc.

But the price ranges between 25m and 30m
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 8:47pm On Sep 06, 2019
Dubemcapital1:



Why a bricklayer sir I suppose one of the reasons for this thread is to promote professionalism, buy professional ideas and advice for free and to have value for your money after all.

I must say that bricklayers, as well as other workforce in a construction site will always have a need for an engineer not minding how small the project might be.

If you can't pay a QS please make sure an engineer handles if possible all your consideration hence construction is involved.
Non-professional or quackery should be discouraged.

One of the reasons why professionals are not frequenting the thread as lamented by some of us some weeks ago is actually because of this reason. Someone will go and conclude an error with an inexperienced worker and come here to throw the error on the house? You have already compromised quality sir...



Dubemcapital

Hahahaha....
I feel the purpose of this thread was/is to promote DIY by intending home owners and that has resulted to that which you've stated.

While the professionals will have to be blamed for some aspects of it, the intending home owners should try and do the needful.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 8:53pm On Sep 06, 2019
bixton:


Hahahaha....
I feel the purpose of this thread was/is to promote DIY by intending home owners and that has resulted to that which you've stated.

While the professionals will have to be blamed for some aspects of it, the intending home owners should try and do the needful.

100%
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dubemcapital1(m): 11:52pm On Sep 06, 2019
bixton:


Hahahaha....
I feel the purpose of this thread was/is to promote DIY by intending home owners and that has resulted to that which you've stated.

While the professionals will have to be blamed for some aspects of it, the intending home owners should try and do the needful.



Do it yourself: interprets that a novice, a learner or an apprentice wants to get something done from the experience he has gathered from someone who "knows". But what we are discussing here is "Anything and everything in building construction" therefore, if they really want to do it themselves the right way (which is very important) you need a professional guide in that field to achieve a result that is void of regret.

Is just a mentality, people don't want to go to the hospital because they think or believe they will spend more at the hospital so they resort to self-medication which is very dangerous and much more expensive.

Hire a professional today it pays and I bet you it is cheaper.

Thanks.
Dubemcapital

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dubemcapital1(m): 12:50am On Sep 07, 2019
rocktowerbuilde:

A Builder is needed first. If not available, an engineer may be considered. Let's put professional specialists into their right places. Thanks





With due respect sir, A builder is a Contractor whose job is to construct a civil structure BY employing a necessary workforce :
1. Engineer
2. Workmen (skilled)
3. Labourers (unskilled)
4. Materials
5. Other resources.

But a civil engineer is someone who has acquired knowledge of designing, constructing and maintenance of a structure.

Therefore, just as homeowners, a builder hires an engineer to aid his work with technical or professional aspects.

So, by implication, a civil engineer can be a builder but a builder is not an engineer.

Howbeit, a builder's job description does not include the bone of contention


Thanks

Dubemcapital

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nero2424: 12:57am On Sep 07, 2019
Unfortunately everyone doesn't have the capability to hire a professional and for those that can, they still need a forum like this to guide them because the so called proffesional knows most of the times clients are usually a first time builders and have little or no understanding about the process of acquiring a land and building to the very end, hence they are out there to milk you dry.

Am sure no one in this group will want Julius Berger to build for them despite we know they can deliver, instead we prefer the lower level proffesionals just to minimize cost; if you still can't afford the lower level that's when we start looking for Baba Tawa and Togo boys. It's just what u can afford.

If you can't afford Yes Saint Lauren, buy Gap and if u still can't afford Gap buy Chinese Gucci.




Dubemcapital1:



Do it yourself: interprets that a novice, a learner or an apprentice wants to get something done from the experience he has gathered from someone who "knows". But what we are discussing here is "Anything and everything in building construction" therefore, if they really want to do it themselves the right way (which is very important) you need a professional guide in that field to achieve a result that is void of regret.

Is just a mentality, people don't want to go to the hospital because they think or believe they will spend more at the hospital so they resort to self-medication which is very dangerous and much more expensive.

Hire a professional today it pays and I bet you it is cheaper.

Thanks.
Dubemcapital

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 2:57am On Sep 07, 2019
Dubemcapital1:



Do it yourself: interprets that a novice, a learner or an apprentice wants to get something done from the experience he has gathered from someone who "knows". But what we are discussing here is "Anything and everything in building construction" therefore, if they really want to do it themselves the right way (which is very important) you need a professional guide in that field to achieve a result that is void of regret.

Is just a mentality, people don't want to go to the hospital because they think or believe they will spend more at the hospital so they resort to self-medication which is very dangerous and much more expensive.

Hire a professional today it pays and I bet you it is cheaper.

Thanks.
Dubemcapital
wink wink%%
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 3:00am On Sep 07, 2019
Nero2424:
Unfortunately everyone doesn't have the capability to hire a professional and for those that can, they still need a forum like this to guide them because the so called proffesional knows most of the times clients are usually a first time builders and have little or no understanding about the process of acquiring a land and building to the very end, hence they are out there to milk you dry.

Am sure no one in this group will want Julius Berger to build for them despite we know they can deliver, instead we prefer the lower level proffesionals just to minimize cost; if you still can't afford the lower level that's when we start looking for Baba Tawa and Togo boys. It's just what u can afford.

If you can afford Yes Saint Lauren, buy Gap and if u still can't afford Gap buy Chinese Gucci.




Lol!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 9:49am On Sep 07, 2019
Dubemcapital1:






With due respect sir, A builder is a Contractor whose job is to construct a civil structure BY employing a necessary workforce :
1. Engineer
2. Workmen (skilled)
3. Labourers (unskilled)
4. Materials
5. Other resources.

But a civil engineer is someone who has acquired knowledge of designing, constructing and maintenance of a structure.

Therefore, just as homeowners, a builder hires an engineer to aid his work with technical or professional aspects.

So, by implication, a civil engineer can be a builder but a builder is not an engineer.

Howbeit, a builder's job description does not include the bone of contention


Thanks

Dubemcapital

Good of you my brother, I believed that
All the 7 professionals in build industry knows there roles.

Architects
Builders(contractor)
Structural Engr’s
QS’s
Electrical engr
And the rest.

So don’t let’s argue about each professionals roles or get it twisted.

As a structural engr you know your roles in building is to design the structural details of building and hand over such documents to the architect which the architect will hand it over to the builder to construct such structure according to the details giving.

with(construction of special building like stadia, airport dam bridges and main road)



As a builder you know your work ,construction of building and maintenance with [building economy( only diff btw civil engr and builders)].mean while all the builder must know about; QS work, architectural drawing, structural design and detailings, Mech and electrical work because it’s in there Sch curriculum, if any builder fail to know this he or she can’t handle building construction, that is why,
Not all contractor are builder. But all builder are contractor

QS; estimator.

Etc.

But generally All the 7 professionals can handle building construction.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 9:55am On Sep 07, 2019
rotecch77:


Good of you my brother, I believed that
All the 7 professionals in build industry knows there roles.

Architects
Builders(contractor)
Structural Engr’s
QS’s
Electrical engr
And the rest.

So don’t let’s argue about each professionals roles or get it twisted.

As a structural engr you know your roles in building is to design the structural details of building and hand over such documents to the architect which the architect will hand it over to the builder to construct such structure according to the details giving.

with(construction of special building like stadia, airport dam bridges and main road)



As a builder you know your work ,construction of building and maintenance with [building economy( only diff btw civil engr and builders)].mean while all the builder must know about; QS work, architectural drawing, structural design and detailings, Mech and electrical work because it’s in there Sch curriculum, if any builder fail to know this he or she can’t handle building construction, that is why,
Not all contractor are builder. But all builder are contractor

QS; estimator.

Etc.

But generally All the 7 professionals can handle building construction.









Good one. As you simply stated it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 12:30pm On Sep 07, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by topsy23: 2:34pm On Sep 07, 2019
I have learnt a lot in building industry, am an Electrical Engr(COREN Registered ), I have worked with so many building contractors and also learnt from them. I can not take the job builders simply because of the little knowledge I have.. Anyrtime a client call me to come and handle a construction, I normally tell them NO. I major in MECHANICAL(HVAC). ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING (MEP). again the work of QS is also very important in building industry as well, they are suppose to generate BILL OF QUANTITIES(BOQ) from the design drawings..

i was In a site one day in Victoria Island Lagos in which there was serious argument between a builder and the client.. Client said he want the head room to be 3m after the finish floor and the ceiling but the required height by the client could not be achieve based on the error from the Architect. The client they should pull down the structure( 3 storey building that is already roofed), Serious argument but later resolved

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 2:52pm On Sep 07, 2019
Dubemcapital1:






With due respect sir, A builder is a Contractor whose job is to construct a civil structure BY employing a necessary workforce :
1. Engineer
2. Workmen (skilled)
3. Labourers (unskilled)
4. Materials
5. Other resources.

But a civil engineer is someone who has acquired knowledge of designing, constructing and maintenance of a structure.

Therefore, just as homeowners, a builder hires an engineer to aid his work with technical or professional aspects.

So, by implication, a civil engineer can be a builder but a builder is not an engineer.

Howbeit, a builder's job description does not include the bone of contention


Thanks

Dubemcapital

Anyone can be a contractor. Being a contractor is not a profession it is a business enterprise.

Many CEOs and owners of construction companies are not construction professionals they only engage professionals

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 3:03pm On Sep 07, 2019
EvaFemi07:
I am new here and I really want to thank everyone for what I have read so far on this forum. Please I want to ask about BOQ, we have a duplex and all drawings are ready so I would love to know:
1) How much does it cost
2) How detail does it always fo
3) Some told me 50k and I think it might be too expensive, what do you think
4) I dont have any ideas about it so what should I look out for
5) What differentiate a good BOQ from a bad one
Please I nedd your help

Let me use this opportunity to address some issues

Many Nigerians don't understand the work of a Quantity Surveyor. At times, they don't even want to pay for the services QS render to them. I have experienced this several times.

Many are penny wise and pound stupid.

I learnt about a client who paid an Engineer/contractor money for 20tons of reinforcement when only 8tons is needed.

Why can't you pay a QS 100k to save 1.5m or 5m and much more?

Let me share this with some that it will be beneficial to.

If you want to give your building project to anyone to execute for you, get a QS to give you a detail BOQ which will surely contain the estimated sum to complete the project.

Give the drawings to the Contractor or Engineer that will execute the work for you and tell him to submit his own detail estimate/quotation or bid. Use the BOQ of your QS to assess the estimate of the Contractor.

Your QS can help you to thoroughly assess the estimate submitted by the Contractor. He can even tell you how much discount you can ask from the Contractor or the amount you should negotiate to.

I created a thread to answer questions relating to Quantity Surveying. You can see it here:https://www.nairaland.com/3463994/consult-quantity-surveyor-here


There should be a basis with which you assess the estimate from the proposed contractor.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 3:15pm On Sep 07, 2019
topsy23:
I have learnt a lot in building industry, am an Electrical Engr(COREN Registered ), I have worked with so many building contractors and also learnt from them. I can not take the job builders simply because of the little knowledge I have.. Anyrtime a client call me to come and handle a construction, I normally tell them NO. I major in MECHANICAL(HVAC). ELECTRICAL AND PLUMBING (MEP). again the work of QS is also very important in building industry as well, they are suppose to generate BILL OF QUANTITIES(BOQ) from the design drawings..

i was In a site one day in Victoria Island Lagos in which there was serious argument between a builder and the client.. Client said he want the head room to be 3m after the finish floor and the ceiling but the required height by the client could not be achieve based on the error from the Architect. The client they should pull down the structure( 3 storey building that is already roofed), Serious argument but later resolved

Thanks for this contribution.

Let me add something.

Many clients are stupid and their stupidity usually cost them.

A Quantity Surveyor is trained in basically three areas:

1. Contract Management and Administration
2. Construction and Building Technology
3. Construction Economics/Measurement

Preparation of BOQ is the main duties of a QS that many are familiar with but that is just one out of many.

Check this thread for more duties of a QS

https://www.nairaland.com/3463994/consult-quantity-surveyor-here

The work of a QS is similar in a way to that of a lawyer. You can tell your QS to prepared construction contract to be signed by you and the contractor.

The contract documents with the BOQ are what you and the contractor will sign as you enter into the construction contract. If you do this and your QS know his onions the Contractor will not mess with you or misbehave.


Before you sign the contract, read the conditions of contract and ask your QS to explain anything you don't understand.

The Contractor is to do the same on the other end. If he is stupid not to read the conditions before he signed it that is his own headache.

When any relationship is not govern by conditions, it will definitely go wrong. Contractual relationship is not an exception. This is why many contractors misbehave
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 3:33pm On Sep 07, 2019
With some of the comments on this platform, many participants posing as professionals are not.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boay(m): 3:40pm On Sep 07, 2019
EngrKem:


Why not here so others will learn?

In as much as some things can be shared here, some should be paid for.


I do things for people for free. But I charge them when I need to

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Umarzy(m): 8:58pm On Sep 07, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Olazzeedris(m): 12:42am On Sep 08, 2019
Dubemcapital1:






With due respect sir, A builder is a Contractor whose job is to construct a civil structure BY employing a necessary workforce :
1. Engineer
2. Workmen (skilled)
3. Labourers (unskilled)
4. Materials
5. Other resources.

But a civil engineer is someone who has acquired knowledge of designing, constructing and maintenance of a structure.

Therefore, just as homeowners, a builder hires an engineer to aid his work with technical or professional aspects.

So, by implication, a civil engineer can be a builder but a builder is not an engineer.

Howbeit, a builder's job description does not include the bone of contention


Thanks

Dubemcapital

Pls dnt get your words twisted ! For the fact that building Construction is a team work, let all knw there's area of specialization for each and every professionals in building industries.
In the list of 7keys from client which come up with brief ,then Architect incorporates that into drawings also Qs and other Engr's work all with Architectural drawings.
*Qs produce Boq.
*Engrs produces drawings documents. e.g structural and electrical drawings.
*Then Builders produced Building.

Notes: All professional work interchangeable dosen't make a builder an Engr and Engr as a builder

With due respect sir, A builder is a Contractor whose job is to construct a civil structure (author=Dubemcapital)
Which you're very correct!

As a builder you know your work ,construction of building and maintenance with [building economy( only diff btw civil engr and builders(author=Rotech77)

Mind you pharmacist would never take work of Medical
Doctors.

What now happen in building industries?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by beamNIGERIA: 8:58am On Sep 08, 2019
Dubemcapital1:






With due respect sir, A builder is a Contractor whose job is to construct a civil structure BY employing a necessary workforce :
1. Engineer
2. Workmen (skilled)
3. Labourers (unskilled)
4. Materials
5. Other resources.

But a civil engineer is someone who has acquired knowledge of designing, constructing and maintenance of a structure.

Therefore, just as homeowners, a builder hires an engineer to aid his work with technical or professional aspects.

So, by implication, a civil engineer can be a builder but a builder is not an engineer.

Howbeit, a builder's job description does not include the bone of contention


Thanks

Dubemcapital


STOP gibbering with confidence.

Contractor is a businesses man, could be from any background

Builders are professionals solely responsible for building production as established by Federal Republic of Nigeria Act Cap No. 40( B.13 LFN, 2004).

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dalof2000: 11:59am On Sep 08, 2019
shelliz:




ONLY IN NIGERIA!!! Any other part of the world where transparency is the order of the day, the price of an item, goods or services is open to all with either possibility of negotiating or not. But in NIGERIA, the reverse is the case. It's really a PITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Please be specific when you talk about "work ethics"..... Next time you should state "some untransparent nigerians work ethics". Thank you
You're too damn right, everything in Nigeria compared to the rest of the world is always different. That's exactly what's happening at National level. People ain't interested in the task at hand but their selfish interest is always their priority. sad sad

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by boma4success: 12:50pm On Sep 08, 2019
Hello NLanders,
I propose to construct a Soakaway Pit+Septic Tank of LxBxH = (12x8x10)ft. The SP+ST will serve a 1bedroom(existing) and 4bedroom(proposed) bungalow. And the SP+ST will be constructed at just 3ft away from d 1bedroom building.

Please what do you guys see to the dimensions and its distance away from the building

PS: the ground is not a swampy area

I will appreciate your professional advices and enlightenment

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by elknice: 5:01pm On Sep 08, 2019
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