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Who Is Jesus In Fact? by VLadipo: 8:28am On Sep 19, 2019
When he (Jesus) said to them, I am he, they drew back and fell to the ground.
John 18:6

Who is Jesus in fact? This question concerns not only those who think about Him. When He lived here on earth, He was the subject of lively discussions. The miracles that He performed could not be explained by the normal course of nature. Then there was His preaching that impressed many.

The high priests once wanted to have him arrested by their servants and brought for interrogation. But the servants returned without Him. When asked; “Why have you not brought him?” they replied, “No man ever spoke like this man” (John 7, 45.46). His words had so impressed them that they found it impossible to arrest Him.

Further attempts to take Jesus failed. But now things were serious. A large number of soldiers; together with the high priests and their servants, came to the place where they assumed Him to be late one evening, armed with weapons and torches. He was indeed there with His disciples, who must have heard the crowd approaching. Instead of fleeing, Jesus went towards them and asked, “Whom are you seeking?” They answered, “Jesus of Nazareth” (John 18, 5). Then the armed men experienced His divine power first hand. When He replied, “I am he”, they fell to the ground.

Did they realise who He was? No, they stood up, took their fetters and bound Him. They could not have done so, if He had not submitted. He did so, because the time had come for Him to die to save sinners from eternal perdition. His great love towards the lost was the reason why He allowed Himself to be captured and nailed to the cross.

You have just read "The Good Seed" daily devotional for September 19, 2019. For more, please visit www.dailydevotionalsonline.com

Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by Sunnick(m): 9:12am On Sep 19, 2019
Jesus was a great man and is name, teaching and miracles spread round the world very fast.... but apart from the Bible where in history was this documented.

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by GodWrites: 10:33am On Sep 19, 2019
A fictional character

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by Nobody: 1:54pm On Sep 19, 2019
Sunnick:
Jesus was a great man and is name, teaching and miracles spread round the world very fast.... but apart from the Bible where in history was this documented.

Satan started ruling the earth immediately after the event that took place in Eden, and thousands of angels joined him in the rebellion against God.

They all teamed together to create different forms of worship throughout the earth, making people worship them since they're unseen powerful beings who can't die naturally.

God decided to introduce himself to mankind through a man named Abraham and after almost one thousand years of choosing this man, God started inspiring one of his great grandson named Moses how everything we are seeing today began.

Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible and the whole Bible contains 66 books all written by the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

All other tribes of the earth worships fallen angels{demons} so these rebellious spirits don't want people to know the truth about God. That's why there is no other document from any place that supports what's in the Bible!

The only raise that had a document {Quran} having similar stories like the Bible is found in the hands of the Ishmaelites {Saudi Arabians}.
They're the great grandchildren of Abraham's first born son. But they weren't inspired because God only chose one out of eight children born to Abraham whose name was Isaac. God promised that all of Abraham's children will survive but his covenant will be established with Isaac! Genesis 17:19-21

God bless you!

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by Sunnick(m): 9:29pm On Sep 19, 2019
Maximus69:


Satan started ruling the earth immediately after the event that took place in Eden, and thousands of angels joined him in the rebellion against God.

They all teamed together to create different forms of worship throughout the earth, making people worship them since they're unseen powerful beings who can't die naturally.

God decided to introduce himself to mankind through a man named Abraham and after almost one thousand years of choosing this man, God started inspiring one of his great grandson named Moses how everything we are seeing today began.

Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible and the whole Bible contains 66 books all written by the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

All other tribes of the earth worships fallen angels{demons} so these rebellious spirits don't want people to know the truth about God. That's why there is no other document from any place that supports what's in the Bible!

The only raise that had a document {Quran} having similar stories like the Bible is found in the hands of the Ishmaelites {Saudi Arabians}.
They're the great grandchildren of Abraham's first born son. But they weren't inspired because God only chose one out of eight children born to Abraham whose name was Isaac. God promised that all of Abraham's children will survive but his covenant will be established with Isaac! Genesis 17:19-21

God bless you!

u haven't said anything new... every religion has a book written by their followers so ur saying they are also real and true.. am only asking u to prove the man Jesus really existed and was documented at least somewhere outside the book of his followers given is name was well know at his time. so many name b4 is birth eg Julius Caesar... where documented yet Jesus did greater works and was more popular than them. how come no scholar or census or history story has an account of him outside the bible

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by bingbagbo(m): 9:45pm On Sep 19, 2019
Jesus Christ is God

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by Nobody: 5:47am On Sep 20, 2019
Sunnick:


u haven't said anything new... every religion has a book written by their followers so ur saying they are also real and true.. am only asking u to prove the man Jesus really existed and was documented at least somewhere outside the book of his followers given is name was well know at his time. so many name b4 is birth eg Julius Caesar... where documented yet Jesus did greater works and was more popular than them. how come no scholar or census or history story has an account of him outside the bible

The Bible itself provided the answer.
Satan is the one ruling the whole world {John 14:30,1John 5:19}, he will never permit the story of his greatest enemy to go that far!

Even amongst the Jews themselves, Satan manipulated powerful individuals in his bid to destroy the story of Jesus so that it doesn't spread! Act 5:28

So no intellectual after knowing all of these will expect such a story to be found in any other document, most especially not under the control of the powerful ruler of the earth (Satan the devil)! 2Corinthian 4:4

God bless you Sir!

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by Sunnick(m): 7:13pm On Sep 21, 2019
Maximus69:


The Bible itself provided the answer.
Satan is the one ruling the whole world {John 14:30,1John 5:19}, he will never permit the story of his greatest enemy to go that far!

Even amongst the Jews themselves, Satan manipulated powerful individuals in his bid to destroy the story of Jesus so that it doesn't spread! Act 5:28

So no intellectual after knowing all of these will expect such a story to be found in any other document, most especially not under the control of the powerful ruler of the earth (Satan the devil)! 2Corinthian 4:4

God bless you Sir!

u have not said anything new.... this same thing a muslim and other religion will say. it save to say if u were born in Saudi Arabia u would hav been a muslim cause till will be only from the Quran u would hav derive all ur defense

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by Nobody: 7:23pm On Sep 21, 2019
Sunnick:


u have not said anything new.... this same thing a muslim and other religion will say. it save to say if u were born in Saudi Arabia u would hav been a muslim cause till will be only from the Quran u would hav derive all ur defense

Sorry Sir, I was born, bread and brought up from a Muslim background.

I traveled to many countries as a military intelligence officer and have heard/seen many religious institutions of different thoughts, before Jehovah's Witnesses convinced me to become a believer in the Bible.

So don't think i was born to become a Churchgoer, i studied really hard and asked lots of thought provoking questions, before i finally succumb to the truth found in the Bible!

For your information Sir, we now have Jehovah's Witnesses {Christians} who were former Muslims from Saudi Arabia!

Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by sulasa07(m): 7:31pm On Sep 21, 2019
VLadipo:
When he (Jesus) said to them, I am he, they drew back and fell to the ground.
John 18:6

Who is Jesus in fact? This question concerns not only those who think about Him. When He lived here on earth, He was the subject of lively discussions. The miracles that He performed could not be explained by the normal course of nature. Then there was His preaching that impressed many.

The high priests once wanted to have him arrested by their servants and brought for interrogation. But the servants returned without Him. When asked; “Why have you not brought him?” they replied, “No man ever spoke like this man” (John 7, 45.46). His words had so impressed them that they found it impossible to arrest Him.

Further attempts to take Jesus failed. But now things were serious. A large number of soldiers; together with the high priests and their servants, came to the place where they assumed Him to be late one evening, armed with weapons and torches. He was indeed there with His disciples, who must have heard the crowd approaching. Instead of fleeing, Jesus went towards them and asked, “Whom are you seeking?” They answered, “Jesus of Nazareth” (John 18, 5). Then the armed men experienced His divine power first hand. When He replied, “I am he”, they fell to the ground.

Did they realise who He was? No, they stood up, took their fetters and bound Him. They could not have done so, if He had not submitted. He did so, because the time had come for Him to die to save sinners from eternal perdition. His great love towards the lost was the reason why He allowed Himself to be captured and nailed to the cross.

You have just read "The Good Seed" daily devotional for September 19, 2019. For more, please visit www.dailydevotionalsonline.com
He is Isa son of Maryam,A Human like you and I,A Prophet/Messenger of GOD.He ate and drank,shit and bathed,slept and prayed,he also did not want to die by being nailed to a cross of curse.The difference btw Isa(Jesus Christ) and I is that he has more belief than I do and his status as a slave of GOD is more honourable than mine.He is not immortal,he had a beginning and he has an end.He prayed to the most HIGH.
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by VLadipo: 8:11pm On Sep 21, 2019
sulasa07:

[s]He is Isa son of Maryam,A Human like you and I,A Prophet/Messenger of GOD.He ate and drank,shit and bathed,slept and prayed,he also did not want to die by being nailed to a cross of curse.The difference btw Isa(Jesus Christ) and I is that he has more belief than I do and his status as a slave of GOD is more honourable than mine.He is not immortal,he had a beginning and he has an end.He prayed to the most HIGH.[/s]

You are wrong.

Jesus is the Son of God and God at the same time.

I know you can't comprehend that fact.

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by sulasa07(m): 8:16pm On Sep 21, 2019
VLadipo:


You are wrong.

Jesus is the Son of God and God at the same time.

I know you can't comprehend that fact.
I can't coz it's stupid.According to science 1=1,1+1+1=3,3/1=3.
I don't know in Islam which is worst: Believe in 3 in 1 gods or no believe in no god at all.
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by VLadipo: 8:40pm On Sep 21, 2019
sulasa07:

[s]I can't coz it's stupid.According to science 1=1,1+1+1=3,3/1=3.
I don't know in Islam which is worst: Believe in 3 in 1 gods or no believe in no god at all.[/s]

Not it's not. It's like trying to explain the operation of a computer to an ant... cool

Even in science, 1 + 1 + 1 = 1

Anybody who did science in the higher institution knows this... cool You can't understand... cool

The Bible is ahead of science... cool
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by RandomGuy48: 2:34am On Sep 22, 2019
Sunnick:
Jesus was a great man and is name, teaching and miracles spread round the world very fast.... but apart from the Bible where in history was this documented.
There are a number of problems with this question--specifically, the presumptions it rests on.

First, "apart from the Bible." The Bible (New Testament) isn't just one source... it's 22 different sources that have at least 8 different authors. That is not unreasonable attestation. There are other Christian writings from around that period that were not included in the Bible, such as the First Epistle of Clement.

Perhaps you are specifically asking for non-Christian documentation. But before we answer "where is the non-Christian documentation" we need to note a few things.

First, almost all writings from the first century have been lost. Papyrus only lasts so long, after all. There's a ton of historical documents that we simply don't have access to.

Second, of the documents we do have, would they have a reason to mention Jesus or, if they did, go into much detail? Our primary history and record-keepers were from Rome, who would have cared little about what a lower class preacher off in Jerusalem was doing unless they were trying to raise an army and overthrow the establishment. As for the miracles, reports would have been simply dismissed as Jewish superstition and ignored by the frequently skeptical Romans historians. And this is to say nothing of how few would have much reason to mention Jesus at all--for example, someone writing a biography of Alexander the Great would hardly have reason to mention Jesus!

But despite those considerations, we do have some non-Christian references to Jesus, albeit brief, from Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny the Younger, and Lucian.

So the question is really not "where was this documented?" It should be "where in the surviving writings we have that should have mentioned it is it documented?"
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by johnw47: 7:21am On Sep 22, 2019
VLadipo:


Not it's not. It's like trying to explain the operation of a computer to an ant... cool

Even in science, 1 + 1 + 1 = 1

Anybody who did science in the higher institution knows this... cool You can't understand... cool

The Bible is ahead of science... cool

you mean 1x1x1=1

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by VLadipo: 12:09pm On Sep 22, 2019
johnw47:


you mean 1x1x1=1

No, I mean 1 + 1 + 1 = 1

'+' in this scenario is logical 'or'

Did you do science in higher institution or logic in Further Mathematics? If you did, you will understand... cool

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by johnw47: 12:26pm On Sep 22, 2019
VLadipo:


No, I mean 1 + 1 + 1 = 1

'+' in this scenario is logical 'or'

Did you do science in higher institution or logic in Further Mathematics? If you did, you will understand... cool

if you are looking to talk about higher science and logic in further mathmatics
you are in the wrong forum

in this forum and to most peolpe + = addition


1 Father + 1 Son + 1 Holy Spirit = three persons, not one person

they do = 1 God and that's another matter
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by VLadipo: 3:02pm On Sep 22, 2019
johnw47:


if you are looking to talk about higher science and logic in further mathmatics
you are in the wrong forum

in this forum and to most peolpe + = addition


1 Father + 1 Son + 1 Holy Spirit = three persons, not one person

they do = 1 God and that's another matter

So what's your point

Are you disputing God in three persons, blessed trinity
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by sulasa07(m): 3:34pm On Sep 22, 2019
VLadipo:


So what's your point

Are you disputing God in three persons, blessed trinity
A 3 in 1 god is a weak god.No wonder he had to die for minions grin grin
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by VLadipo: 4:20pm On Sep 22, 2019
sulasa07:

[s]A 3 in 1 god is a weak god.No wonder he had to die for minions grin grin[/s]

You are a liar! tongue
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by coleoneee(m): 4:24pm On Sep 22, 2019
The problem with most of you religious people is ignorance, you don't even know how to argue about a conviction that you hold so strong, lack of study of your religious material, poor knowledge of your religion and how to defend it, worse you don't even understand the questions you're being asked and you answer rubbish most times and bring lots of incoherent logic into what requires a simple answer that doesn't seem like rocket science. Even your holy book says "my people perish for lack of knowledge" and you people are still perishing! Haba why not follow the part that says "study to show yourself approved". Its a pity most of the atheist know the bible more than you and are way... Smarter

https://twitter.com/coleoneee/status/1169517265076793344?s=19

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Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by sulasa07(m): 4:35pm On Sep 22, 2019
VLadipo:


You are a liar! tongue
How am I lying,is that not the way you are taught in the church and from the Bible.Are you sure you are ok?
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by VLadipo: 8:28pm On Sep 22, 2019
sulasa07:

[s]How am I lying,is that not the way you are taught in the church and from the Bible.Are you sure you are ok? [/s]

How do you know what the church and Bible say
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by sulasa07(m): 10:30pm On Sep 22, 2019
VLadipo:


How do you know what the church and Bible say

The Bible is there in the market for sale and the churches are aired on tv and loudspeakers
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by johnw47: 10:41pm On Sep 22, 2019
VLadipo:


So what's your point

Are you disputing God in three persons, blessed trinity

my point is simple and easy to understand

1+1+1=3

no need for higher science and logic in further mathmatics to know that
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by johnw47: 11:21pm On Sep 22, 2019
VLadipo:


So what's your point

Are you disputing God in three persons, blessed trinity


johnw47:


1 Father + 1 Son + 1 Holy Spirit = three persons, not one person

they do = 1 God and that's another matter

^^^ does that look like i'm disputing God in three persons?
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by Pharaoh4rin(m): 1:02am On Sep 23, 2019
johnw47:


if you are looking to talk about higher science and logic in further mathmatics
you are in the wrong forum

in this forum and to most peolpe + = addition


1 Father + 1 Son + 1 Holy Spirit = three persons, not one person

they do = 1 God and that's another matter

Perhaps lemme give u a vivid and childlike example: a beer contains; water+color+ethanol and is equal 1 beer. Right?
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by johnw47: 2:17am On Sep 23, 2019
Pharaoh4rin:


Perhaps lemme give u a vivid and childlike example: a beer contains; water+color+ethanol and is equal 1 beer. Right?

smiley
a beer = 1 beer no matter what it's composition
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by VLadipo: 7:55am On Sep 23, 2019
johnw47:


my point is simple and easy to understand

1+1+1=3

no need for higher science and logic in further mathmatics to know that




And I insist that 1 + 1 + 1 = 1 is also correct. Both of us are indeed correct. smiley
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by johnw47: 9:53am On Sep 23, 2019
smiley
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by gobuchinny: 10:05am On Sep 23, 2019
Sunnick:


u have not said anything new.... this same thing a muslim and other religion will say. it save to say if u were born in Saudi Arabia u would hav been a muslim cause till will be only from the Quran u would hav derive all ur defense

Read ancient roman historians. They wrote about a criminal Christus who they executed and His followers beleive he resurrected. Check google as they r several written from ancient historians that proves Jesus existence
Re: Who Is Jesus In Fact? by sonmvayina(m): 10:52am On Sep 23, 2019
gobuchinny:


Read ancient roman historians. They wrote about a criminal Christus who they executed and His followers beleive he resurrected. Check google as they r several written from ancient historians that proves Jesus existence

It will be nice for you to copy and paste the links..

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