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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:40pm On Oct 08, 2019
Danielnino00:


The ass licking of foreign born players here no be small thing o.

Well done nerdy... u just gave that guy a befitting reply

There should be one consideration only ABILITY in the HERE & NOW in the context of consistent continuous outstanding performances for league and club.

The emotive and sentiment based preference for players on the basis of youth glories is simply irrational and has no substance with regard to invitation to the SE.

This convoluted concept of allegiance and loyalty to Nigeria is nonsensical. If Nigerian players born and bred in Nigeria could change allegiance to another country that would result in lucrative football contracts , DO YOU THINK ANY OF THEM will choose Nigeria when millions of £££$$$$ is involved. Most will tear thier 9ja passport and opt not too return.

Please wake up and stop being super delusional about this idea of allegiance to the nation.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 4:40pm On Oct 08, 2019
Humility017:


and the painful thing is that we are not even fast enough...
many a time we wait for them to reach stardom prior we approach them...
I am sure if Algeria has adopt same approach they would have loose out on Mahrez and co


you see how clueless pinnick has become...his time is going down as one of the worst administration ever.....


firstly you were on track with your first two points, onlly to kill it with your third and last paragrahp

pinnick Nff the worst?
It is well ooooo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 4:40pm On Oct 08, 2019
Earthquake1:


Why didn't Abraham and Tomori honor our call up?

Nonsense, Ebere Eze knows which country he wants to play for, he's not a robot or a kid

in all fairness if you are in Eze shoes. ...at this point should the English FA give you a call up will you refuse?

considering you've lived in England all your life, you even play there....and Nigeria have refused to call you up.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 4:42pm On Oct 08, 2019
do4luv14:



firstly you were on track with your first two points, onlly to kill it with your third and last paragrahp

pinnick Nff the worst?
It is well ooooo

why does he keep hiring coaches he can't fire...?
why Is Aigbogun and Imama still keeping their jobs?

what does they have to offer ?
how about the fate the super falcons suffered recently?
do you know how much Rohr is being owned?

under his watch we missed out on afcon twice you remember....?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 4:42pm On Oct 08, 2019
somehow:
What he did with Otabor is not different from what he did with Okoye. We have GKs everywhere in the world that are miles better than 4th divisional Okoye.

So, like Okoye, like Otabor.

Ajayi just dey waste for there, yet one ota ibon made the list.
Okoye got a second call though, so, not quite.

I look at Otabor same way I look at Nwakali Chidiebere
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 4:43pm On Oct 08, 2019
Humility017:


in all fairness if you are in Eze shoes. ...at this point should the English FA give you a call up will you refuse?

considering you've lived in England all your life, you even play there....and Nigeria have refused to call you up.


He is not accepting because Nigeria refused to call him up, he's accepting because he wants to play for England

Jordan Ibe and Philip Billing refused a Nigerian call up to play for other countries
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:44pm On Oct 08, 2019
Calling up a player and talking to get them to switch allegiance are two different things.

Any player that is called up at youth level and does not commit to Nigeria should be left to explore his other options.

Earthquake1:


Why didn't Abraham and Tomori honor our call up?

Nonsense, Ebere Eze knows which country he wants to play for, he's not a robot or a kid
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:46pm On Oct 08, 2019
I didn’t join this discussion from the beginning so I may be lost. But let’s not be too sentimental. Eze was called up to a get together by Rohr and he honored it. Why did England still invite him after then?

Earthquake1:


He is not accepting because Nigeria refused to call him up, he's accepting because he wants to play for England
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 4:51pm On Oct 08, 2019
Joebie:
I didn’t join this discussion from the beginning so I may be lost. But let’s not be too sentimental. Eze was called up to a get together by Rohr and he honored it. Why did England still invite him after then?


He even accepted U20 invitation, how do we know that Eze wants to play for us

We saw how Abraham used a Nigerian invite to hassle English FA, Adarabioyo is testing out Nigerian jerseys, Sheyi Ojo has pledged to Nigeria

What has Eze done to show we are not in a wild goose chase
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:51pm On Oct 08, 2019
Earthquake1:


Why didn't Abraham and Tomori honor our call up?

Nonsense, Ebere Eze knows which country he wants to play for, he's not a robot or a kid

Tomori was not invited officially just speculation , we waited for him to blow then we remembered him, that's why dem say "know me when i'm poor"


What prevents the NFF from inviting all these outstanding promising players 6/7 of them give them a sense of belonging , understand invitation is not selection, if they prove themselves then SELECTION.

Come the January window if Eze get taken up by Southampton or anybody else in the EPL then we will suddenly remember him.

WRONG APPROACH
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:52pm On Oct 08, 2019
Earthquake1:


He even accepted U20 invitation, how do we know that Eze wants to play for us

We saw how Abraham used a Nigerian invite to hassle English FA, Adarabioyo is testing out Nigerian jerseys, Sheyi Ojo has pledged to Nigeria

What has Eze done to show we are not in a wild goose chase

Adarabioyo is on the downward spiral

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:55pm On Oct 08, 2019
Joebie:
I didn’t join this discussion from the beginning so I may be lost. But let’s not be too sentimental. Eze was called up to a get together by Rohr and he honored it. Why did England still invite him after then?


Because after doing introduction , he was not invited to the wedding party, "introduction no be marriage"

So if you like do introduction, no pay dowry no do wedding another man go collect the prize
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 4:55pm On Oct 08, 2019
komekn:


Tomori was not invited officially just speculation , we waited for him to blow then we remembered him, that's why dem say "know me when i'm poor"


What prevents the NFF from inviting all these outstanding promising players 6/7 of them give them a sense of belonging , understand invitation is not selection, if they prove themselves then SELECTION.

Come the January window if Eze get taken up by Southampton or anybody else in the EPL then we will suddenly remember him.

WRONG APPROACH


Oh, call up is not on consistent performance when it comes to foreign players?

How do you know NFF has not been talking to them or you want them to hear about their invitation in the internet and reject us publicly?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 4:56pm On Oct 08, 2019
Earthquake1:


Oh, call up is not on consistent performance when it comes to foreign players?

How do you know NFF has not been talking to them or you want them to hear about their invitation in the internet and reject us publicly?

i know because i have talked to at least 4/5 of them myself
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 4:57pm On Oct 08, 2019
komekn:


I have said this many times before, we seem to invite players from the pages of news papers, but dont actually make an official invitation.

This has happened so many times, i have talked to quite a few of our Nigeria origin players in the UK and i always find their version of events is very different from the one the NFF presents.

Consider Ebere Eze waiting for call up but NUTTIN when England call him some of you will now say LIAR. knowing the country we are from and the nature of the NFF who is most likely to be lying
bro, I don't have time for long talk, we both know that tomori is just trying to save face. Let him focus on his England career and leave us in peace. We are no more interested in his fabricated narrative, he should move on with his 5 caps for England.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 4:59pm On Oct 08, 2019
Humility017:


the problem with this academics is that the money made from this player's sales many a time often end up in the management pocket...

they barely invest it back into this academics....same thing is happening to Nigerians owned companies.... the Nigeria man or woman barely invest in their companies even after making or getting multi million contracts..... they travel for vacations, buy fleet of cars but barely put the large sum back into their companies unlike the Chinese and others.....

I remember BJ Foundation going broke 2 years after the sale of Isaac success.... a player reportedly to have been sold for 1m euro.... so tell me we will barely make significant progress with this attitude

U aren't making any sense ..

U think an academy like diamond academy where Chukwueze came from aren't investing again to discover another Chukwueze?
Or Taiye academy in Owerri where Iheanacho came from have closed down?
What about GBS academy that produced Samuel Kalu and Moses Simon?
Grooming players is the same thing as running a business... U can't expect to reap the benefits immediately... it will take time..Make u relax.

It seems like nothing satisfy u again...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 4:59pm On Oct 08, 2019
komekn:


i know because i have talked to at least 4/5 of them myself

Yea I believe you

If you know Eze tell him to publicly pledge his allegiance to Nigeria so we can know where he stands

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 5:01pm On Oct 08, 2019
rohr and the nff approached tomori prior to the last afcon and he said he still need time to make his decision and as of then his heart was set on representing england at the euro u21 championship.


tammy long ago have settled his mind on playing for england but the same can't be said of tomori who never knew that his rise to chelsea first team would have been sudden which made him thought it will be difficult breaking into the 3 lions squad. he jumped to the chance of playing for the 3 lions after impressing in few games this season, moreover england have always been his first choice but he didn't know the invite will be soon
Earthquake1:


Oh, call up is not on consistent performance when it comes to foreign players?

How do you know NFF has not been talking to them or you want them to hear about their invitation in the internet and reject us publicly?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 5:03pm On Oct 08, 2019
Joebie:
The problem is even if we stop approaching foreign groomed players or restrict SE to only players that came from the home front it’s not gonna guarantee that we will do the right thing.

So the real question is what is the real problem?



simple structure and Adminstration

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 5:03pm On Oct 08, 2019
Abraham Vows To Cement England Place
 0 October 8, 2019 4:14 pm


Tammy Abraham today vowed the time has come to establish himself as an Englandregular.
The 22-year-old joined up with Gareth Southgate’s squad at St George’s Park yesterday after scoring his ninth goal in 11 games for Chelsea as the Blues eased to a 4-1 win over Southampton.

Abraham’s call-up for the forthcoming Euro 2020 qualifiers against the Czech Republic and Bulgaria comes almost two years after his only previous senior appearances in friendlies against Germany and Spain in November 2017.

Abraham lasted an hour of the first game and just 15 minutes of the second as two experimental Southgate sides earned successive goalless draws.

He was on loan at Swansea at the time but after a subsequent spell at Aston Villa last term – where he scored 25 goals in a promotion-winning season – Abraham believes is has matured to seize any opportunity given to him over the next seven days.

“Back then in 2017, it was all about me being young,” he told Standard Sport.

“It was a good experience, for me. So, to be going back now, I had my experiences out on loan, I’m back and now it’s time to stay here.

“For me, it’s a massive achievement [to be in the squad]. I’m clearly doing something right for my club to get attention from Gareth Southgate. It’s about going out there, helping the team as much as possible. And then coming back in and doing the same job for my team.”

Abraham remains eligible to play for Nigeria – the country of his father’s birth – having not played a competitive senior game for England in his career to date.

Abraham’s father is close friends with president of the Nigerian Football Federation, Amaju Pinnick, and manager Gernot Rohr had made little secret of his desire to convince the striker to switch allegiances.

Abraham insisted the subject had not come up during his initial discussions with Southgate, although in his mind that debate now appears to be settled once and for all.

“I haven’t spoken to him about that,” said Abraham. “I’m a player growing up in England, playing in the Premier League. My ambitions were always to play for England. Obviously it’s nice to be wanted by two nations, two nations that I love. But my main focus is England.”
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by slegend(m): 5:04pm On Oct 08, 2019
komekn:


Your clutching at straws.

His coaches who saw him train day in and day out thought so highly of him they let him go and did not see fit to give him a chance in the first team at Wolfsburg.

My opinion has not changed AT THAT TIME he was simply not good enough he has improved a lot and has taken his goals well. There is a very very long way to go before he becomes world class. But he is on the right track .
that is a lie sir
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:05pm On Oct 08, 2019
komekn:


Tomori was not invited officially just speculation , we waited for him to blow then we remembered him, that's why dem say "know me when i'm poor"


What prevents the NFF from inviting all these outstanding promising players 6/7 of them give them a sense of belonging , understand invitation is not selection, if they prove themselves then SELECTION.

Come the January window if Eze get taken up by Southampton or anybody else in the EPL then we will suddenly remember him.

WRONG APPROACH



What do u mean by Tomori's invite wasn't official?
The NFF approached him and he said we should give him time...
Is it until we announce it to the whole world before u will agree that there was an official approach for him?

That was how u said Pinnick never meet with Tammy Abraham in London and that Tammy never turned us down..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:09pm On Oct 08, 2019
Our own!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 5:09pm On Oct 08, 2019
Danielnino00:



What do u mean by Tomori's invite wasn't official?
The NFF approached him and he said we should give him time...
Is it until we announce it to the whole world before u will agree that there was an official approach for him?

That was how u said Pinnick never meet with Tammy Abraham in London and that Tammy never turned us down..



No we should have gone with a whole local government on Osun state to make it official grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:11pm On Oct 08, 2019
My point is England did not get sentimental and say “Eze’s heart is not with us”
komekn:


Because after doing introduction , he was not invited to the wedding party, "introduction no be marriage"

So if you like do introduction, no pay dowry no do wedding another man go collect the prize

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:12pm On Oct 08, 2019
slegend:

that is a lie sir

what is a lie please ?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 5:14pm On Oct 08, 2019
Joebie:
My point is England did not get sentimental and say “Eze’s heart is not with us”

Don't think the English FA did not get Eze's permission before inviting him for the U20s
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 5:15pm On Oct 08, 2019
Hahahahahaha
Which kind talk be that?

Earthquake1:


Don't think the English FA did not get Eze's permission before inviting him for the U20s
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:15pm On Oct 08, 2019
Danielnino00:



What do u mean by Tomori's invite wasn't official?
The NFF approached him and he said we should give him time...
Is it until we announce it to the whole world before u will agree that there was an official approach for him?

That was how u said Pinnick never meet with Tammy Abraham in London and that Tammy never turned us down..


We waited way too long , there was a time he was willing and ready but we delayed and we are doing the same thing with Eze once again.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:17pm On Oct 08, 2019
Earthquake1:



No we should have gone with a whole local government on Osun state to make it official grin

Yea. and a town hall meeting should have been held in London to make it more official and formal..

Nonsense!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:17pm On Oct 08, 2019
Earthquake1:


He even accepted U20 invitation, how do we know that Eze wants to play for us

We saw how Abraham used a Nigerian invite to hassle English FA, Adarabioyo is testing out Nigerian jerseys, Sheyi Ojo has pledged to Nigeria

What has Eze done to show we are not in a wild goose chase

Eze and Tammy should not be compared

Eze was ACTUALLY invited and HONORED it. Tammy took a few pictures with Pinning and started the rumor of an invite he never honored. Tammy is a trash person, Eze is not.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 5:19pm On Oct 08, 2019
komekn:


We waited way too long , there was a time he was willing and ready but we delayed and we are doing the same thing with Eze once again.

There was a time Tomori was willing and ready?

When was this?

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