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Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by m140(m): 12:18pm On Oct 15, 2019
Carlyboi:
it’s pretty much possible but majorly one of the things that Messi and cr7 stacks their shelf and cvs with his those fifa best And ballon dors with 11 between them which should have been 7 at best despite the dumbed down and mostly average players and above average few special players playing now
Thats why i say they only conquered European football, wc both nothing ..
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by fijiano202(m): 12:20pm On Oct 15, 2019
eni4real:
They didn't bribe anyone but there was a VARadona who was supposed to be red carded in the quarter final for scoring an intentional hand ball goal...

I don't think Maradona got better, apart from SerieA in 87 and that Europa League trophy (UEFA Cup), what else did he win??

What has Maradona won in his career that Griezmann has not won?? tongue

Sharap if u don't know anything

Boca Juniors

Argentine Primera División: 1981 Metropolitano[204]
Barcelona

Copa del Rey: 1983[204]
Copa de la Liga: 1983
Napoli

Serie A (2): 1986–87, 1989–90[204]
Coppa Italia: 1986–87[204]
UEFA Cup: 1988–89[204]
Supercoppa Italiana: 1990
International
Argentina Youth

FIFA World Youth Championship: 1979[205]
Argentina

FIFA World Cup: 1986[204]
Artemio Franchi Trophy: 1993[206]
Individual

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Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Fladm(m): 12:25pm On Oct 15, 2019
Okay

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Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by ozilo1chance(m): 12:48pm On Oct 15, 2019
DanXplore:


Lol in what universe is player of the century better than as many ballon d'or? Remember that Pelle played in the era where football was less sophisticated unlike Messi.

Also, I think it is more ideal to consider a player's individual performance than collective. No matter how good a player is, if you have very useless defenders who concede goals all the time, you will not go far in footbal and this could be illustrated well with the match Barca played against Liverpool in the most recent UEFA

Don't forget that Messi won gold for his country at the junior level and so presuming that he is not GOAT because he has not won a thing for his country is out of place. Also, Messi has taken his country to world cup finals atleast twice or even more. All the key playmakings and goals where made by him. What more do you want from Messi? Should Messi attack, midfield, defend and keep goals out simultaneously?




Abegi, junior level is way different from Senior level in all aspects, so don't even go there

Messi was bad in that UCL match vs Liverpool as well as his teammates...... all that was needed of him was to score JUST A SINGLE GOAL....... I sincerely doubt if that can happen for a team with CR7 in it........ Or are trying to say that Barcelona's defence that got them ALL THE WAY to semis was bad overnight.


Messi has only been to 1 world cup final... in which he didn't even score a WC knockout goal...... get your facts right bro.

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Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Boyooosa(m): 12:50pm On Oct 15, 2019
The friends of C Ronaldo are so carried away that they find themselves in the camp of the enemies of Messi!

Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Nobody: 1:02pm On Oct 15, 2019
ozilo1chance:





Abegi, junior level is way different from Senior level in all aspects, so don't even go there

Messi was bad in that UCL match vs Liverpool as well as his teammates...... all that was needed of him was to score JUST A SINGLE GOAL....... I sincerely doubt if that can happen for a team with CR7 in it........ Or are trying to say that Barcelona's defence that got them ALL THE WAY to semis was bad overnight.


Messi has only been to 1 world cup final... in which he didn't even score a WC knockout goal...... get your facts right bro.

It's like you don't get the point. How will Messi score when five people are always giving him very tight marking? Even when he has drawn players to himself, those attackers will still be missing goals as though they swore for them. Look at the goal Dembele missed at the last minute against Liverpool. Look at the photos attached. Kuku kee Messi na

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Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Nobody: 1:29pm On Oct 15, 2019
fijiano202:


Sharap if u don't know anything

Boca Juniors

Argentine Primera División: 1981 Metropolitano[204]
Barcelona

Copa del Rey: 1983[204]
Copa de la Liga: 1983
Napoli

Serie A (2): 1986–87, 1989–90[204]
Coppa Italia: 1986–87[204]
UEFA Cup: 1988–89[204]
Supercoppa Italiana: 1990
International
Argentina Youth

FIFA World Youth Championship: 1979[205]
Argentina

FIFA World Cup: 1986[204]
Artemio Franchi Trophy: 1993[206]
Individual
Apart from the Boca Junior, Argentine leagues trophy...

There is nothing Maradona has won in Top 5 European League that Griezmann has not won!!

Copa dey rey is a big trophy now grin because Maradona is the topic
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by spayor(m): 2:00pm On Oct 15, 2019
DanXplore:


Lol. Player of the century is given to players who played between 1900 and 2000. Messi started playing much later.
ohhhh God bless you na u be the first person wey get sense understand that award wey dem give Pele...Messi and Pele na different era players oh... therefore, this current calendar wey we dey, na Messi Dem go give player of the century...I pray he should still be alive by then Sha..cos I no see anybody we fit challenge ahm till 2099 hahahaha
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by ozilo1chance(m): 2:13pm On Oct 15, 2019
Soso990240:
Individual brilliance. Messi has it more than all of them. How many of them has scored up to 50 goals in a season? Messi that is not a No9 striker did it.

You say wetin





I present to you CR7 THE GOAT

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Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Coldsteel(m): 2:20pm On Oct 15, 2019
Nice one but I don't think Neymar is overrated.Kid has serious skills.Character and injuries are his undoing
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by ozilo1chance(m): 2:29pm On Oct 15, 2019
eni4real:
Still he did not win the Golden boot..

Kempes won the Golden boot and the Golden ball combined in 1978 World cup... Yet, he is not as overhyped as VARadona who was supposed to be red carded in the quarter final for scoring an intentional handball goal!!!

Did you just type 1978 world cup




Eni please check again
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Coldsteel(m): 2:40pm On Oct 15, 2019
Jokerman:
A barcelonian list grin

We are talking of the "greatest "... What has Messi done or acheived on won that this players haven't done

Pele
Maradona
Zidane
Ronaldo
CR7

Pele and Maradona are good alright but you will agree with me that football then was quite outdated.Less strategy,money,ethusiasm and bragging rights as we have it now.
Zidane was a true magician.A legend in his midfield role.He was more of a playmaker than a scorer (which of course is his job).
Ronaldo was magical too in his 9 position.His dribbling and power was phenomenal.A pity injury and weight couldn't let us enjoy him more.
Cr7 as we all know is a goal machine if not the best so far.He doesn't dribble that well but give him the ball and he looks for ways to score.He tries a power shot or passes to a teammate while moving in position.

Now this is where Messi beats them all.
He does the playmaking job of Zidane,dribbles much better than Ronaldo and yet scores as much as CR7.

I need not be a club fan to recognize greatness anywhere..

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Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Nobody: 2:45pm On Oct 15, 2019
ozilo1chance:


Did you just type 1978 world cup




Eni please check again
Yes na!!
Argentina won the World cup in 1978!! The first one!!

Mario Kempes won the World cup golden ball and Golden boot!!!
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by ozilo1chance(m): 2:52pm On Oct 15, 2019
eni4real:
Clowns??
Tell that to Portugal superstars that lost to Greece in 2004 Euro finals!!!

You call players playing Europe top 5 leagues, clowns??

Your Rashidi Yekini must be a clown too!!!

Want to see a joke?? Yes, see:


Eni, stop drifting.


He was figuratively speaking.........he meant that the Chile squad/team was inferior (i.e with less superstars) to the Argentines, but ended up defeating Argentina TWICE CONSECUTIVELY in the finals.



That photo of yours is getting old, as in very old.
He missed chance was that he missed it, stop trying to paint, bend or give another meaning or look.......or do you want to blame Eder & Guedes for their respective strikes....... what is CR7's fault that they scored & Messi's teammates couldn't.

I don't want to ever see that picture again from your post















PS: The last paragraph was a on a lighter mode though
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Nobody: 2:56pm On Oct 15, 2019
ozilo1chance:



Eni, stop drifting.


He was figuratively speaking.........he meant that the Chile squad/team was inferior (i.e with less superstars) to the Argentines, but ended up defeating Argentina TWICE CONSECUTIVELY in the finals.



That photo of yours is getting old, as in very old.
He missed chance was that he missed it, stop trying to paint, bend or give another meaning or look.......or do you want to blame Eder & Guedes for their respective strikes....... what is CR7's fault that they scored & Messi's teammates couldn't.

I don't want to ever see that picture again from your post















PS: The last paragraph was a on a lighter mode though
That was a 2016 Copa America.. A competition in which Messi scored 5 goals and recorded 4 assists!!
It is a disservice that the striker of the team will miss the chance to put the team ahead!!

Eder and Guedes??

They are life savers like Sunday Mba...

Every superstars need such players in a team unlike Higuain, the best player in Ac Milan, Chelsea and Argentina history!!! tongue
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by ozilo1chance(m): 3:01pm On Oct 15, 2019
eni4real:
Yes na!!
Argentina won the World cup in 1978!! The first one!!

Mario Kempes won the World cup golden ball and Golden boot!!!

Ok.... I thought that the hand of God & that wonder against England happened in 1986 WC
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Nobody: 3:04pm On Oct 15, 2019
ozilo1chance:


Ok.... I thought that the hand of God & that wonder against England happened in 1986 WC
Yes.
That is the 2nd World cup won by Argentina..

What i meant to say is that Mario Kempes won the World cup golden ball and Golden boot in the 1978 edition and was never overpraised like VARadona of 1986!!!
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by ozilo1chance(m): 3:12pm On Oct 15, 2019
eni4real:
That was a 2016 Copa America.. A competition in which Messi scored 5 goals and recorded 4 assists!!
It is a disservice that the striker of the team will miss the chance to put the team ahead!!

Eder and Guedes??

They are life savers like Sunday Mba...

Every superstars need such players in a team unlike Higuain, the best player in Ac Milan, Chelsea and Argentina history!!! tongue

Alright, I agree that every team and not just superstars need those "life savers" because they are not robots and can't be everywhere at a time.... I get it, I really do believe me......... but that's in no way CR7's fault.
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by ozilo1chance(m): 3:12pm On Oct 15, 2019
eni4real:
That was a 2016 Copa America.. A competition in which Messi scored 5 goals and recorded 4 assists!!
It is a disservice that the striker of the team will miss the chance to put the team ahead!!

Eder and Guedes??

They are life savers like Sunday Mba...

Every superstars need such players in a team unlike Higuain, the best player in Ac Milan, Chelsea and Argentina history!!! tongue

Alright, I agree that every team and not just superstars need those "life savers" because they are not robots and can't be everywhere at a time.... I get it, I really do believe me......... but that's in no way CR7's fault.... I guess you'll just have to deal with it.
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Nobody: 3:15pm On Oct 15, 2019
ozilo1chance:


Alright, I agree that every team and not just superstars need those "life savers" because they are not robots and can't be everywhere at a time.... I get it, I really do believe me......... but that's in no way CR7's fault.
It was CR7 luck, not fault..

He got injured like Salah in a final match against the toughest opponent but Eder, Pepe and Nani stepped up and win the trophy..

No fault at all.. It is luck...

Just like Sunday Mba delivering the AFCON trophy to Nigeria!!!. .
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by MrFly(m): 3:19pm On Oct 15, 2019
Mateen1000:

With what you just wrote, You clearly do not watch football at all and you know nothing about the sport sef, Pele career lasted for 20yrs, So how is his career not long enough, he won World Cup 1958 and he retired around 1980, Pls stop saying trash here
Football has been redefined to favour goals? Are you kidding?
With Strict offside rules, And also with VAR that can even cancel a goal.
Remove offside goals from pele’s goals and let me know the remaining, Just keep shut and learn
u are a fool by telling me to shut up. God punish ur loose tongue, Pele retired in 1977 and ur saying 1980. Can ur midget win an international tourney? U compare an average and fortunate player to Pele and claim to knw it all. May ur generation always be underated d way u underate Pele. Unam ikot mkpo
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by IkePeters(m): 3:20pm On Oct 15, 2019
I add Lewandowski to the GREAT category
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Debaiz: 3:26pm On Oct 15, 2019
m140:

How old are you?
What's the second team messi had the standing


Probably older than you.

You had the time to google the R9 and R10 records and I went out of way to give you a a screenshot and you still expect me to provide you with the team. You sure want someone to spoon feed you with facts but I don’t have time for babies.

Hint: the second team is the team that has won Europa league UEFA super cup and entered UCL final twice in the last decade. Not some Man U team that won UCL once in a decade and never came close again at that time R9 was getting a standing ovation from them. Figure it out yourself.
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by fijiano202(m): 3:49pm On Oct 15, 2019
eni4real:
Apart from the Boca Junior, Argentine leagues trophy...

There is nothing Maradona has won in Top 5 European League that Griezmann has not won!!

Copa dey rey is a big trophy now grin because Maradona is the topic

Real Sociedad[162]

Segunda División: 2009–10
Atlético Madrid[162]

UEFA Europa League: 2017–18[163]
UEFA Super Cup: 2018
Supercopa de España: 2014
France U19

UEFA European Under-19 Championship: 2010[162]
France

FIFA World Cup: 2018




Do you even know anything about football
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Debaiz: 4:07pm On Oct 15, 2019
GEEBITE:
Too much self conceitedness .If you are advising me to get a dictionary because of a word as simple as consecutive,it is really laughable.If you dont consider that as an insult even for second language speaker of English we both are(btw the noun is advice not 'advise) then the word needs to be redefined.
Dudes from my generation don't sound this way .They respond to facts with superior one and not with this air of haughtiness.Only if you finished your university education in 1998 will I consider us to be of the same generation.

Another thing you should know,it is a very small WORLD.

Insult is a relative word. For example, Calling someone ignorant to some people an insult while to some it’s just a fact stated that “what you don’t know, you don’t know. What you don’t know is above you”.

Telling you to get a dictionary for a word to me is not an insult. You may think the word is too simple than to be advised to get a dictionary for but the fact is if someone can misinterpret a statement because of that same “simple” word then the normal thing is to presume the meaning is lost on the person. Hence the dictionary.

If I’m to go by your analogy of insult, I’d say the same thing you’re complaining of is the same thing you just did in the advice/advise. You ask how? I say technology(auto correct), which you know about but just to return the favor “insult” you had to point it out forgetting technology. Ordinarily I don’t take offense but rather ignore cos I believe you understood what I meant irrespective of the spelling error. I’m only pointing it out to tell you you just did same thing you’re complaining of but in a worse and petty kind of way.

If there’s anything that got through to me it’s your last statement. It’s indeed a small world and for that reason I apologize if my first submission came across as an insult. It wasn’t my intent. Also apologies for the second reply which obviously was an insult. Hopefully we can move past this.
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by m140(m): 4:38pm On Oct 15, 2019
Debaiz:



Probably older than you.

You had the time to google the R9 and R10 records and I went out of way to give you a a screenshot and you still expect me to provide you with the team. You sure want someone to spoon feed you with facts but I don’t have time for babies.

Hint: the second team is the team that has won Europa league UEFA super cup and entered UCL final twice in the last decade. Not some Man U team that won UCL once in a decade and never came close again at that time R9 was getting a standing ovation from them. Figure it out yourself.
Google r10 and r9 record cus i want to....
You can't be serious.... figure wat on wat, he got his standing from small team.
Children of nowadays , how old are you, you claiming smart, wats the team.
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by mystical109(m): 4:41pm On Oct 15, 2019
Jokerman:


Can you tell us any tournament Pele played that he wasn't MVP??

Can you tell us any tournament Maradona played that he was MVP??

CAn you tell us any tournament Zidane or Delima played that they weren't MVP??

Can you also tell us how many players have more career assists than CR7
do u know that Maradona played for Barca and guess what, in his two seasons he didn't play nada
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by ozilo1chance(m): 4:41pm On Oct 15, 2019
eni4real:
It was CR7 luck, not fault..

He got injured like Salah in a final match against the toughest opponent but Eder, Pepe and Nani stepped up and win the trophy..

No fault at all.. It is luck...

Just like Sunday Mba delivering the AFCON trophy to Nigeria!!!. .

Then I guess everyone (Messi included) needs a bit of luck to be successful or should I say complete.
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Nobody: 4:49pm On Oct 15, 2019
fijiano202:
Real Sociedad[162]

Segunda División: 2009–10
Atlético Madrid[162]

UEFA Europa League: 2017–18[163]
UEFA Super Cup: 2018
Supercopa de España: 2014
France U19

UEFA European Under-19 Championship: 2010[162]
France

FIFA World Cup: 2018




Do you even know anything about football
Just tell me one thing that Maradona has won the Griezmann has not won!! Stop quoting nonsense!!
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Jokerman(m): 5:04pm On Oct 15, 2019
mystical109:
do u know that Maradona played for Barca and guess what, in his two seasons he didn't play nada

Yet Argentine Maradona > Argentine Messi

Napoli's Maradona > Barca's Messi

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Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Jokerman(m): 5:05pm On Oct 15, 2019
eni4real:
Just tell me one thing that Maradona has won the Griezmann has not won!! Stop quoting nonsense!!

World Cup golden ball
FIFA player of the century award
Re: Ranking Of Footballers: From Goat To Overrated By Sportbible by Nobody: 5:31pm On Oct 15, 2019
Jokerman:


World Cup golden ball
FIFA player of the century award
FIFA player of the century was won by Pele!!!

Well, Griezmann also won World cup Silver ball!!

So, what is the big deal here??

Like Maradona, like Griezmann grin

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