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Skrskr:
They claimed I was self-employed, I am not self-employed. I am employed by my company and payslip of monthly salary of 360k per month was attached.

1blessing:
@giselle oh my God, i have chosen one now thinking it might cancel my whole application if i dont choose an appointment, may i still change before then cos i amjust seeing your response?

thanks so much for your response.

Healhtyliving:
Do you mean the child may be denied visa since the wife who is not the mother is the primary applicant? The following documents have been gathered so far and the family is considering giving the application a trial as they can not afford to leave the child behind
1) Sworn affidavit by the father in the high court stating the reasons why he isn't married to the baby mama including how he has been solely responsible for the upkeep of the child, that the child has been living with him as part of his family since marrying his wife;
2) Letter from the child's school that the father is the only parent responsible for the child's school fees and attends all schools activities;
3) Cover note from the wife(primary applicant) on how it will be emotionally difficult for other siblings to cope without their sister in the UK and how the child has been part of the family since getting married to the dad;
4) Marriage certificate showing the man was single with a child before marriage;
5) Father's bank statement showing payment of school fees;
6) Consent letter from the baby mama.
Is there any other documents/support left out?
Has anyone made this kind of application before?

obiz0819:
Good evening all!

As an update on my Complaints to Home Office against the reasons for my refusal, I sent out the mail on Sept 19. So last week while I was out of the country on official assignment, "an oyinbo person" called my organization and my colleague that picked the call, disclosed that she was asked details about my position, number of years I had worked at the organization and my salary.

All the info she provided corresponded to the details I had earlier provided in my application except for the salary, which she told the person, she doesn't have access to such information. The office line is designed in such a way that any staff can pick incoming calls

Moving forward, 2 days ago, I got this generic message from:
UKHUBVisaInfo@fco.gov.uk
Monday (2 days ago)


Dear

Your UK visa application has been concluded by Visits UK and will shortly be dispatched.
Votre demande de visa a ete traitee par notre service Visites Visa UK et la decision vous sera communiquee dans les plus brefs delais.Veuillez s il vous plait lire les instructions concernant la recuperation de votre passport......

I was already jubilating on how I would tell my success story here

Only for me to get another mail today again from Complaints via homeoffice.gov.uk

CMS Reference:

HO Reference:

Dear ....



Thank you for your email correspondence of 19 September where you have raised a complaint about the refusal of your Entry Clearance application.


We apologize for the error you have identified in the original refusal notice. An updated decision notice has been sent to you.


The onus in on visa applicants to demonstrate their circumstances are as claimed. There is no obligation upon decision makers to verify employment along the lines suggested by you in your complaint.

Moreover, at no point does the refusal notice challenge your employment as claimed or that you do not have sufficient funds available to cover the expenses of the proposed visit. Employment was not an area of concern and therefore the Decision Maker did not need to make any checks. (But note that they called my office oo)

If you can address the concerns raised in the refusal notice, it is open to you to make a new application which will be assessed on its merits.



I apologise for any inconvenience caused to you in this matter but I am unable to uphold your complaint.



I believe I have addressed all the points you have raised. (My other complaint on the miscalculation of my planned expenditure and monthly income was not addressed). However if you feel that there are specific aspects that have not been addressed you can request a review of our response within one month of the date on this letter.



I really dont understand how to proceed cos it seems there is a gap between the first mail I got on Monday and today's mail from Home Office. I have attached the refusal letter and the complaint letter I sent to HO for aid our delibrations @justwise and others please help

Juliansamuel:
Pls where you sent decision made email?

obiz0819:
capture of the complaint letter I sent to HO

Skrskr:
Hello. They made errors on my application as well. Did you complain through a different medium or made a fresh application?

obiz0819:
I made a complaint not a fresh application. I felt I should correct the wrong judgement before making a fresh application

giselle237:
Sincerely sorry about the outcome.
Pls who owns the company paying the 360k monthly?

tswft:
Hello gurus in the house , I’ve been a silent reader for a while now... here’s my case .. I’ve been refused U.K. visa three times .. once 2016 and twice in 2018. My refusal in 2018 was based on my personal financial circumstances. To cut then long story short .. I got a job september 2018 afterward earning a total of 140k a month.. spend 60k a month... fast forward this year .. I’ve been to 4 countries volunteering for an NGO which I partly funded .. also I won an all expense paid trip to the U.K.. flight , hotel , airport transfers , Daily stipends for 6 days covered ..

I want to ask if my personal circumstance would be considered for this trip and again I never thought I will be going to the U.K. this year coz winning the competition wasn’t expected..

Skrskr:
How long did they take to get back to you?
I need to do the same as well.
Did you complain via calls or through mail?
Kindly let me know the channel that was used.

Skrskr:
I do.

Skrskr:
I do.

tswft:
Guys please help me out

giselle237:
What competition is this? What is their acceptability status? Is it a global organization that is giving you this?

tswft:
It’s a journalism Firm in the U.K been in existence for over 50 years ... dedicated to helping journalists from third world country .. I was lucky to win with my team members all from other countries ... I’m the only Nigerian that was chosen

giselle237:
congratulations. Grace found you.
Your financial situation will be assessed, not necessarily for you to sponsor the trip seeing that you have already got a sponsor thru the competition but for them to further assess your home ties. Financial ties is just one part of it, other ties would be taken into consideration as they have to make sure you wont escape.
Whatever you do, dont fail to declare the existing denials.
The travel you have made though not to countries with similar immigration structures as theirs, it will sha help..If you need further assistance, Pls always ask

folmus:
If na you, will you give her visa bro? You were given because she is part of your ties to Nigeria and you said na only you de go. The advice is: Go alone, when you are back, apply for her alone too. If you apply again for her and gets denied, it will be difficult to scale through a potential migrant.

Aibisoye0:
First time? Have you both travelled before to the UK or individually?

giselle237:
Your heart says you should contest the decision... that’s okay however kindly leave out the self employed part... you are self employed because you OWN the company and they are right to refer to you as that..

Skrskr:
Hi All.
Visa type: Visit (family)
Timeline: Biometric: sept 17
Concluded: October 6
Passport ready for pick up: October 15.
Outcome: Denied


I applied for a month's visit visa to visit my family - (my parents and brother). One of the reasons was to see them, while the other was for my moms graduation earlier this month.
My parents are citizens while my brother has a permanent residency.
I just picked up my application yesterday and it was denied due to 2 ridiculous reasons.
1. My sponsor (mom) does not have enough money in her joint account with my dad to donate 800 pounds to my flight which was mentioned in my application.
2. I do not have up to the money I claimed I had in my savings.

Now, I say the reasons were ridiculous because, I submitted two accounts for my sponsor (mom) as supporting documents:

1. Joint account with my dad which had 63 pounds balance, which was the one they checked. But the purpose of this was only to show my parents were married and share a joint account.

2. My moms personal account which had enough money about 4000pounds to cover the 800pounds flight cost.

So obviously, they only checked one account and did not check the main account and assumed she does not have any money of her own.


Secondly, in the form, I declared a savings of 7k pounds and I submitted my 3 bank accounts to support this.
They miraculously checked and mentioned only one bank account which had just 4k pounds in it.
And they claimed, the 4k was not up to the 7k savings I claimed.
For Gods sake, I submitted 3 personal bank accounts and 1 company account. They claimed I submitted 2 accounts, 1 for company and 1 personal with the 4k savings.

Also, I did write a brief but comprehensive cover letter detailing everything and the supporting documents attached.

I registered my company in May, and prior to that all business transactions have been going through my personal account. All these was explained, with proof of earnings and the source, but they obviously did not check and of that and only cherry picked what they want and made a decision that does not add up. They claimed I was self-employed, I am not self-employed. I am employed by my company and payslip of monthly salary of 360k per month was attached.

Also, they mentioned they are not satisfied my sponsor will provide financial support to me during my stay. I never said she would.
My mom is only contributing 800pounds to the budget of 2k pounds. The 800 was only for my flight (which isn't a cost I can't even handle myself, she only planned to do that as a gift). I also included in my cover letter than the rest of the travel expense (1.4k pounds) will be covered by me for accommodation and feeding as I planned to rent an hotel close to where they live.

Now, the thing is I am not desperate to go to the UK, I really don't care as it was just to visit my family, however, all the reasons they refused me for were incorrect.

Do you guys advise me to reapply immediately to contest the decision?

I am thinking if I leave it and apply at a later time, it may confirm their thinking that their decision was right and that I and mom really do not have the funds.

Secondly, if I reapply now, how can I ensure that they check all the documents I submitted especially since it is obvious that they do not check a lot of the supporting documents and cover letter? Where should I put the details they failed to check? If I put all this in another cover letter for the new application, what's to say they will check or not even refuse again?


I await your views.
Thanks a lot.

Justblow:
You gave too much information. The ECO is not looking for the strong part of your application to make decisions, they are all out for the flaws.

You earn 360k, let's assume your ME. is 100k, u left with a monthly DI. of 260k, twice is 520k, guy, u can package your papers and get the visa.

All u need is get an invite for the graduation, parent give u accommodation and reduce your travel duration to two weeks.

All these mom will give me money as gift, is further complicating the whole thing.

Don't even think of contesting it, remember your company is just five months old.

Follow my lead at the top and you will be fine.

All d best.

Skrskr:
Thanks, boss.
Do you advise I reapply immediately?
The graduation is already past as it was October 7th. But I did include the graduation invite in the previous application
As per accommodation, they have a small apartment was why I decided to book a hotel if given the visa.

Should I apply for two weeks now? Remove the joint account and still use my parents' house as accommodation or should I just book the hotel and reduce my travel expense to half since it will now be for 2 weeks?

Skrskr:
Hi All.
Visa type: Visit (family)
Timeline: Biometric: sept 17
Concluded: October 6
Passport ready for pick up: October 15.
Outcome: Denied


I applied for a month's visit visa to visit my family - (my parents and brother). One of the reasons was to see them, while the other was for my moms graduation earlier this month.
My parents are citizens while my brother has a permanent residency.
I just picked up my application yesterday and it was denied due to 2 ridiculous reasons.
1. My sponsor (mom) does not have enough money in her joint account with my dad to donate 800 pounds to my flight which was mentioned in my application.
2. I do not have up to the money I claimed I had in my savings.

Now, I say the reasons were ridiculous because, I submitted two accounts for my sponsor (mom) as supporting documents:

1. Joint account with my dad which had 63 pounds balance, which was the one they checked. But the purpose of this was only to show my parents were married and share a joint account.

2. My moms personal account which had enough money about 4000pounds to cover the 800pounds flight cost.

So obviously, they only checked one account and did not check the main account and assumed she does not have any money of her own.


Secondly, in the form, I declared a savings of 7k pounds and I submitted my 3 bank accounts to support this.
They miraculously checked and mentioned only one bank account which had just 4k pounds in it.
And they claimed, the 4k was not up to the 7k savings I claimed.
For Gods sake, I submitted 3 personal bank accounts and 1 company account. They claimed I submitted 2 accounts, 1 for company and 1 personal with the 4k savings.

Also, I did write a brief but comprehensive cover letter detailing everything and the supporting documents attached.

I registered my company in May, and prior to that all business transactions have been going through my personal account. All these was explained, with proof of earnings and the source, but they obviously did not check and of that and only cherry picked what they want and made a decision that does not add up. They claimed I was self-employed, I am not self-employed. I am employed by my company and payslip of monthly salary of 360k per month was attached.

Also, they mentioned they are not satisfied my sponsor will provide financial support to me during my stay. I never said she would.
My mom is only contributing 800pounds to the budget of 2k pounds. The 800 was only for my flight (which isn't a cost I can't even handle myself, she only planned to do that as a gift). I also included in my cover letter than the rest of the travel expense (1.4k pounds) will be covered by me for accommodation and feeding as I planned to rent an hotel close to where they live.

Now, the thing is I am not desperate to go to the UK, I really don't care as it was just to visit my family, however, all the reasons they refused me for were incorrect.

Do you guys advise me to reapply immediately to contest the decision?

I am thinking if I leave it and apply at a later time, it may confirm their thinking that their decision was right and that I and mom really do not have the funds.

Secondly, if I reapply now, how can I ensure that they check all the documents I submitted especially since it is obvious that they do not check a lot of the supporting documents and cover letter? Where should I put the details they failed to check? If I put all this in another cover letter for the new application, what's to say they will check or not even refuse again?


I await your views.
Thanks a lot.

rman:
I do not know. No one could give me any explanation. Even here.

When I went to TLS to complain, I met another lady whose passport has been held for five months after the concluded mail. She refused to leave.

Our cases was escalated and still no feedback to me till date.

tswft:
It’s a rare opportunity... thank you so much .. I’ve applied will update the house .. I’ve got the application concluded mail .. it’s quite different from the ones I got when I was denied .. I also added my land in my name and dad’s c of o for where I live .. you know that feeling when you’ve been let down too many times . UkHUBvisainfo mail is new to me
I got a letter from my employer, added letter of employment and the recommendation letter from the NGO I’ve been volunteering for

oluayebenz:
You are self employed nah....
You should have a business account for transactions....