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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by abbey4christ(m): 9:25pm On Oct 21, 2019
Looks like a wrong time to ask my question. phew
abbey4christ:
Hi guys, so i was thinking, i don't know if anyone has tried this before. I need your inputs and your opinion on this. I saw the highlighted while doing my research on how to bring a spouse to Canada as a permanent resident. Is it not possible to apply for PR for your spouse and while the application is in the pipeline apply for a work permit for her since work permit get approved within few months compared to PR for spouse that takes almost or over a year

Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Shindar: 9:32pm On Oct 21, 2019
maternal:


Kiss my a$$. You pay my internet bill ?
guy, whatsup with you? Did Canada make you this hostile or this is your default setting??! Calling a fellow human an idiot and a madman in a single post! Are you sure you are o.k!? , cos I really doubt it. Come for me all you want, add your so called crazed followers forming 'in the know'! I don't freaking care who you are, you sound like a frustrated person. Guy, Chill out!!! What nonsense!

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by DexterousOne(m): 9:37pm On Oct 21, 2019
SixSigma1:
Note: If anybody disagrees with my write-up below, I expect that you do so maturely and professionally. No name callings or abuses of any form please.

This election is way more than just immigration, so let us not narrow it down to only immigration issues. Even if we were to narrow it down to immigration issues I am seeing a lot of half facts and half lies many people on this platform are talking about regarding the conservative plans for immigration.

Yes, conservative plans to reduce immigration level (fact), but what people are not saying (maybe they don’t know) is that for the most part they (conservative) are only trying to reduce the percentage of refugee category (people that mostly do not add to the economy but rather take away from it) which the liberal has increased drastically since taking over power while they the liberal have been reducing the percentage of economic/skilled worker immigrant (i.e. EE) which are the actual people that contribute to the economy. Now tell me, for those of you castigating people that are in support of reduction in immigration level via reduction in percentage of refugee immigration, how many Nigerians are migrating to Canada as a refugee compared to the number that come through economic/skilled worker immigrant (EE)? I may be wrong, but my guess is that 95% come through EE and about 5% through refugee (my figure may be wrong, but I am very sure it is close). And by the way, we all know that almost all refugee claimants from Nigeria are not true refugee but rich people claiming to be refugee.

In my view, considering that Nigerians migrate to Canada mainly as economic/skilled worker immigrant, we stand to get more Nigerians into Canada under the conservative plan (because the focus is on more economic/skilled worker immigrant) as against the liberal plan which is in favour of more refugees.



@Salford1

I like the way you differentiated yourself from some other people in your message above about not calling people bad belle people simply because their view is different from yours. This is our Canadian value, we disagree, we voice it out and we are still friends even if we differ politically.

Now, there are many points you raised that I totally disagree with (the items in bold). I don’t know how long you have been a permanent resident in Canada, but I have been a permanent resident in Canada going through liberal government (Jean Chretien and later Paul Martin), then conservative government (Stephen Harper) and now another liberal government (that I hope will end today) while living in 2 different provinces (Ontario and Alberta). In all those periods, the liberal government were always bad period for professional jobs (notice I did not just say jobs. I said professional jobs). Yes, liberal tend to create a lot of minimum wage jobs while professional job suffers. This is what has just happened since 2015 till now as well. While under conservative, a lot of both professional jobs and minimum wage jobs are always created. So, all this mention of job creation liberal is talking about are mainly minimum wage jobs with very little professional jobs being created. Now tell me, how many Nigerians coming here via EE want to end up working in minimum wage jobs rather that in their professional jobs. I am sure many new immigrants here can confirm if it has been easy for them to get professional jobs they dream of getting when they started their EE journey and what the impact of liberal job creation is in their lives.



I honestly think that you are being mischievous with your statement that application takes 5 to 10 years when Kenny was the minister of citizenship and immigration. You chose not to add that the backlog was a result of the liberal government of Jean Chretien and later Paul Martin. They created the backlog and could not fix it. Kenny came in and tried to fix it first by introducing the FSW (occupations in demand) which reduced it a little bit and he later introduced the current EE. The backlog has been completely eliminated and fixed with Kenny’s EE before the current liberal government came and continue with the good work of Kenny. You even mentioned it yourself in your post below that Kenny (conservative introduced EE.



Finally, for me, I vote for low tax (more money in my pocket), I vote for my Canada living within her means and not living on debt that my great grand children will not be able to pay (as the liberals are currently doing and will continue to do), I vote for balancing the budget, make the economy business friendly so that we can create more professional jobs (not just minimum wage jobs). I vote against the fear mongering of the liberal government rubbishing the conservative platform. I vote against the party that makes it look like it is bad to be successful and they penalize you for being successful. Hence, I voted for change already during the advance polling so that I can help get people out to vote for change today.




I see yoir clarifications
And I appreciate them
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Palominopeaches(f): 9:51pm On Oct 21, 2019
mosky47:
today na today

LMAO grin grin grin
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Palominopeaches(f): 9:55pm On Oct 21, 2019
I've sha learnt so much from this thread.

Seems I'll need a lot of unlearning since all I know about is PDP and APC, Goodluck, Atiku and Buhari. Peter Obi.
God help us. Amen

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Shindar: 9:56pm On Oct 21, 2019
MarquisDeSade:
I am 100% sure this 'Maternal' guy isn't Yoruba and that he highlighted the supposed tribe for malicious reasons!
Whoever you are, you can say whatever you like in defence of your poorly construed post, but it will not eliminate your underlying bigotry.


I would love your post 50 times if I could! Well said jare. Plus he forgot it takes an idiot and a madman to know one.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by salford: 10:00pm On Oct 21, 2019
Palominopeaches:
I've sha learnt so much from this thread.

Seems I'll need a lot of unlearning since all I know about is PDP and APC, Goodluck, Atiku and Buhari. Peter Obi.
God help us. Amen
Yes, you will have to unlearn. Politics here has advanced way more than I would build bridges, I will build roads, I will construct new gutter grin.

The dude repping conservative in my riding is just a simple regular family guy. No riches, area father or area boys or nothing. He is on his way to become a member of parliament. something not possible in Nigeria

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Nobody: 10:05pm On Oct 21, 2019
salford:

Yes, you will have to unlearn. Politics here has advanced way more than I would build bridges, I will build roads, I will construct new gutter grin.

The dude repping conservative in my riding is just a simple regular family guy. No riches, area father or area boys or nothing. He is on his way to become a member of parliament. something not possible in Nigeria
Bro contest na grin

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by salford: 10:42pm On Oct 21, 2019
pyruvateluv:

Bro contest na grin
Like the Nigerian man in Edmonton shey cheesy

There is time for everything.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Nobody: 10:47pm On Oct 21, 2019
salford:

Like the Nigerian man in Edmonton shey cheesy

There is time for everything.

You are right bro
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by DexterousOne(m): 12:41am On Oct 22, 2019
Palominopeaches:
I've sha learnt so much from this thread.

Seems I'll need a lot of unlearning since all I know about is PDP and APC, Goodluck, Atiku and Buhari. Peter Obi.
God help us. Amen

Exactly

Such type of politics is primitive and backward

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by SixSigma1(m): 12:51am On Oct 22, 2019
salford:

Your post are always very good and a delight to read. Even though you come here just once in a while.

My reply below might not be coherent as I am still at work.

I landed when Harper was the PM and can't really say much about the previous government before Harper. You are right about Kenney Introducing the occupation in demand. I came to Canada when the conservatives only accepted 1,000 people per occupation for a max of 20,000 per year for the 20 occupations on the list. Lots of Nigerians do not and will not qualify back then. Who knows what level the immigration numbers would be reduced to when the conservatives get in? I remember that all applications submitted prior to 2007 were cancelled and application fees refunded. CIC started on a fresh page and the Cons limited intake. This helped in getting rid of the backlog maybe? Immigration is actually one of the least of the factors I considered in making a decision. I just could not see how Sheer would better the economy much more than what Trudeau has done.

I also had a different experience when I landed in Canada. could be because I worked in a regulated profession, but friends that did not work in a regulated profession and landed the same time I did still had a tough time getting good jobs. Alot did survival jobs, even those in IT who now seems to be enjoying a surplus job market at the moment. Then I would discourage people about coming to Canada. Nowadays, people are getting jobs even from Nigeria, good jobs and not unprofessional jobs. This is why mentioned that it seems Trudeau was doing better in terms of job creation.

Even though there might be an increase in tax should the Liberal get in. I doubt if that will be much to the extent of affecting people that are already well off. My family's income is at a point where we get nothing from the government due to being placed on a higher tax band. We are still going to get screwed by any government in power anyway. lol. I do not bother much about that because we should really be taking care of our down trodden or those struggling to make ends meet This from from taxes paid by the well offs. This helps keep crime rate down.

I do agree with you about the deficit. However, I still don't see how the Conservatives would be able to help in reducing deficits without bringing in more tax. All we have heard has been cuts, cuts and more cuts. Cuts would likely create more problem for money to be spent on. I believe Harper had a deficit when he was in power too but I am not totally sure.


It was a bit tough for me to decide on what party to vote. I mentioned in one of my previous post that I can't really see what Sheer is bringing to the table that would swing some of us in the middle to vote Con. Truedeau had scandals here and there which dipped his ratings to me. Both parties were a tie on who to vote, but I eventually went the Liberal as they have a better plan when it comes to diversity and inclusion. If Ambrose was still the Con's leader, I would have easily voted Con without giving it a 2nd thought.

The provincial Cons here in Saskatchewan aka SaskParty are actually doing well and were able to balance the budget via the introduction of new taxes or increase existing tax, and not cut cut cut like Kenney is proposing in Alberta, I still don't see how a government can cut it's way into a balanced budget.

I read the article below this morning before going to vote. It also helped me in making a decision as per the performance of the economy (Truedeau vs Harper).

https://business.financialpost.com/executive/posthaste-which-party-will-be-better-for-canadas-economy-theres-one-that-may-have-a-marginally-better-plan/amp

I do not think my vote will make much difference here in my riding anyway. Sask is majorly conservative. A Con would be representing my riding in parliament.



@Salford1:

I like reading your post as well. As for coming here once in a while, my brother it is because it is not easy keeping up with everything going on here but I try my best to read almost every post when I do check in.

As per the 20,000 a year immigration level you quoted above, you may want to check your number again. During Harper years (Feb 6, 2006 to November 4, 2015), the immigration number was between 238,130 (in 2007) and 270,580 (2010). This number was much higher than the liberal government of Jean Chretien and Paul Martin (Nov 4, 1993 to Feb 6, 2006) before it. Liberal number from the year 2000 to 2005 where between 199,190 (2003) to 256,410 (2002).

See the link below for immigration number for 2000 to 2018. Take note that 2000 to 2005 number belong to liberal, 2006 to 2015 numbers belong to conservative and 2016 to 2018 again belong to liberal.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/443063/number-of-immigrants-in-canada/

When it comes to writing articles about who is better for the economy between conservative and liberal anybody can write anything and back it up with data. Just like you I also find the article below that states that the conservatives are better for the economy and urging students to vote conservatives ([url]see the link below[/url]). So, at you can see it all depends on who is writing the article. So, for me, I only go with the facts as I know it and as I see it affects me and my Canadian community and the future of our unborn kids, grand-kids, great grand-kids etc.

https://thevarsity.ca/2019/10/18/for-economic-growth-students-should-vote-conservative/

I know that you already voted, but please do not think your vote does not count even if the party of your choice does not win. Your vote counts a lot my brother. Thank you very much for voting even if it was the liberal that you voted for. Together we will make Canada better irrespective of who eventually wins. If my conservative wins, I look up to you to hold us accountable while I will also hold the liberals accountable if they eventually form the next government. That is the beauty of our democracy (unlike the APC/PDP democracy).

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Jaygirl20: 1:03am On Oct 22, 2019
From the screenshot you sent; I checked the cic website for the Open Work permit and they're referring to skilled workers who are here on temporary residence, and not permanent.
You can seek advice from immigration consultants though.

abbey4christ:
Hi guys, so i was thinking, i don't know if anyone has tried this before. I need your inputs and your opinion on this. I saw the highlighted while doing my research on how to bring a spouse to Canada as a permanent resident. Is it not possible to apply for PR for your spouse and while the application is in the pipeline apply for a work permit for her since work permit get approved within few months compared to PR for spouse that takes almost or over a year

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by salford1: 1:15am On Oct 22, 2019
SixSigma1:



@Salford1:

I like reading your post as well. As for coming here once in a while, my brother it is because it is not easy keeping up with everything going on here but I try my best to read almost every post when I do check in.

As per the 20,000 a year immigration level you quoted above, you may want to check your number again. During Harper years (Feb 6, 2006 to November 4, 2015), the immigration number was between 238,130 (in 2007) and 270,580 (2010). This number was much higher than the liberal government of Jean Chretien and Paul Martin (Nov 4, 1993 to Feb 6, 2006) before it. Liberal number from the year 2000 to 2005 where between 199,190 (2003) to 256,410 (2002).

See the link below for immigration number for 2000 to 2018. Take note that 2000 to 2005 number belong to liberal, 2006 to 2015 numbers belong to conservative and 2016 to 2018 again belong to liberal.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/443063/number-of-immigrants-in-canada/

When it comes to writing articles about who is better for the economy between conservative and liberal anybody can write anything and back it up with data. Just like you I also find the article below that states that the conservatives are better for the economy and urging students to vote conservatives ([url]see the link below[/url]). So, at you can see it all depends on who is writing the article. So, for me, I only go with the facts as I know it and as I see it affects me and my Canadian community and the future of our unborn kids, grand-kids, great grand-kids etc.

https://thevarsity.ca/2019/10/18/for-economic-growth-students-should-vote-conservative/

I know that you already voted, but please do not think your vote does not count even if the party of your choice does not win. Your vote counts a lot my brother. Thank you very much for voting even if it was the liberal that you voted for. Together we will make Canada better irrespective of who eventually wins. If my conservative wins, I look up to you to hold us accountable while I will also hold the liberals accountable if they eventually form the next government. That is the beauty of our democracy (unlike the APC/PDP democracy).







Thanks for the reply. I wasn't able to get a government archive that talks about the caps back then. But I was able to get a screen shot on a different forum I was active on:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2011/2011-06-24a.asp

Changes to economic immigration programs will help further reduce backlogs and improve wait times

Ottawa, June 24, 2011 — Canada is adjusting its intake of applications from economic immigrants to further reduce the backlog and improve wait times while meeting the country’s labour market needs, Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism Minister Jason Kenney announced today.

“The backlog of federal skilled worker applications is now half of what it was when we announced the Action Plan for Faster Immigration in 2008,” said Minister Kenney. “These measures will help us to continue that progress.”

Canada receives many more immigration applications than can be accepted every year. As part of ongoing efforts to better align application intake with priorities for immigration, Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) is limiting the number of new applications it will consider in certain categories of the federal economic immigration stream.

Effective July 1, 2011, the changes will affect new applicants to the federal Skilled Worker, federal Immigrant Investor and federal Entrepreneur programs. The changes will not affect the number of permanent resident admissions in 2011 in these three categories.

“Canada continues to welcome historically high numbers of new immigrants each year, but the Government continues to receive applications that far exceed this number,” said Minister Kenney. “If we don't keep putting reasonable limits on new applications, backlogs and wait times will grow.”

In November 2008, the government first took steps to identify for processing those federal skilled worker applications that responded to Canada’s labour needs, such as applicants with arranged employment offers from Canadian employers or with experience in an occupation in high demand. In June 2010, the government released an updated list of 29 priority occupations and introduced a global cap of 20,000 for federal skilled workers, as well as a sub-cap of 1,000 under each occupation. Over the past year, CIC has received approximately 13,800 federal skilled worker applications under the priority occupations list (figure accurate as of June 24, 2011).

Now, for applicants who do not have an offer of employment in Canada, the government will further limit the number of new federal skilled worker applications that are considered for processing to 10,000 a year, beginning July 1. This limit will help better align the number of applications with labour market demand. Within the 10,000 limit, a maximum of 500 new applications in each of the current 29 priority occupations will be considered.

In addition, the Minister is introducing a cap of 700 on new federal investor applications. Although last year, CIC made changes that raised the minimum net worth and investment requirements, it continues to receive applications in excess of what is required. An annual cap on new applications will allow for progress on backlog reduction while ensuring that the Department has a sufficient volume of new files to meet its commitments.

The Minister is also introducing a temporary moratorium on new federal entrepreneur applications. Wait times for this program currently stretch to eight years in some visa offices. By ceasing to accept new applications as of July 1, the government will prevent further processing delays. The federal Entrepreneur Program will undergo a review in the coming months to ensure that Canada is better able to attract and retain innovative entrepreneurs.

The authority for these changes, which are being introduced through ministerial instructions, comes from amendments to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act approved by Parliament in 2008 as part of the Action Plan for Faster Immigration. The instructions are meant to be a flexible tool that allows the government to align the intake of immigration applications with priorities for immigration.

Since these changes were implemented in November 2008, the backlog of pre-2008 federal skilled worker applicants has decreased by 50 percent. As well, priority applications are being processed in a period of months rather than years, as was the case prior to the 2008 changes.

The CIC website will be updated on July 1, 2011, with details on application requirements and procedures for affected programs.

Follow us on Twitter at www.twitter.com/CitImmCanada

For further information:

Kasra Nejatian
Minister’s Office
Citizenship and Immigration Canada

Media Relations
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
Ontario Region
613-952-1650
CIC-Media-Relations@cic.gc.ca


The bolded was the stream I arrived on and I was certain it was 20k per year
Applications usually filled within 2 months of application, and you wait till it reopens the following year with changes.
The over 200k in the data table you posted might include other streams like family reunification, temporary foreign workers, Grandparents etc. It specified immigrants but did not mention if they were permanent on did not also specify the visa classes.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by SixSigma1(m): 1:21am On Oct 22, 2019
maternal:
@SixSigma,

[b]Refugees add as much, if not more than anybody to the economy. This stigma/lie that has been going around for years, as been proven wrong many times. The Vietnam refugees in the 60's I believe, both U.S soldiers fleeing from the draft or actual Vietnam citizens have done well in Canada. The current Syrian refugees that came what 4 years ago are doing as good if not better than EE. Creating jobs and adding to the economy. These are facts, data kept by the federal government, which you can research and validate for yourself. Ironically refugees are so bad, that many municipalities were begging the federal government to settle them in their region. Why would they want individuals who wouldn't contribute to their economy come there ? Because refugees do contribute to the overall economy. A good amount of refugees are degree educated if you don't know. The Syrian refugees weren't illiterates from the streets. Lastly, any individual who touches Canadian soil and claims refugee, the federal government MUST hear their claims. This is according to the agreement sign by the Canadian government with the UN. How can any government reduce the refugee category ? Our government must hear a refugee claimant and be in partial. To reduce that category, you're basically saying you're going to reject claims ahead of time[/b] ?

Where in my post did you see that I wrote that refugee do not contribute to the economy at all? Please point it to me. What I said is that most (not all) refugee do not contribute to the economy. When does saying most of them do not contribute to the economy equate that they do not contribute to the economy at all? Of cause, there are always exemption in every situation. The fact that you listed some of them doing well does not mean that most of them are. The questions is what percentage of them are adding to the economy compared to what the government invest in them but not invested in economic immigrants/skilled workers (EE). If the government invested 25% of what they invest in refugees in the EE applicants, I am sure most EE will find it easier than they are finding it today.

Where did you see in my post that refugees are illiterate? Honestly, I am not sure why you are making all of these things up just to suite your write up.

How does my support for reduced number of refugee (but increased number of EE) equate to not hearing their case. Hear their case, but admit only the number that the economy can sustain considering that they have to be fully taken care off for like 2 or 3 years with free house, spending money, free prescription drugs (that even Canadian citizens do not have) free dental care (that even Canadian citizens do not have ) etc before they can stand on their feet. Do EE get that treatment, or they have to come with their own fund that should last them for 6 months before they can ask for government support. Even, when they qualify for government support after 6 months they do not get free dental or prescription drugs.


maternal:


Are you God ? How do you know this without listening to their cases ? You already have a mis-conception about Nigerian refugee claimant. I can't believe an immigrant, a black African is this anti- immigration. Do you know how many oyibo people I've met who are against the EE and don't feel immigrants coming in with that program should be here; especially Nigerians ? In short do you know how many oyibo's hate you and the fact you're here ? And you're spreading the same hateful sentiment towards your fellow people trying to come here ? Lastly you are confusing refugees to irregular refugees. Go research the difference.

Again, why are you just making up things to suite your write up. Where did I mention that I am anti-immigration. I said, do not increase refugee (regular or irregular) at the expense of EE. Go and read my post again. Also, what has being black got to do with that? Is it only black that claim refugee? I am not sure why you are just mixing things up. Look, my friend, I know the difference between regular and irregular refugee and still stand by my position that the number should be reduced as our economy can not sustain the current number. We should rather increase EE.

I take offence in you labeling me as spreading hateful sentiments towards people. Why is it difficult for you to disagree without resorting to bad labeling or name calling? What is hateful in my write-up. I request again that you choose your words carefully when responding to my post. We need to take emotions out of our discussions and also be civil, mature and professional when discussing.


maternal:


Not true and the liberals have said and proved otherwise. You don't become a G7 nation with a high quality of life by only trying to recruit refugees. 99% of new Nigerians I've met are educated people who came under the EE. The other 1 percent are refugees, and even them are very educated and ready to work. Skilled workers cost the country nothing. Why wouldn't they favor them ?

I am not sure the point you are trying to make here because if anything, your statement supports my position that we need to attract more EE and less refugees.


maternal:

Ya the Liberals don't create or attract professional jobs with their backwards immigration policies. lol

Again, I never said liberal do not create professional jobs at all. What I said is they do not create professional jobs as much as the conservative do. Make sure you read and understand before commenting please because you are just talking almost everything I wrote out of context.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Bawss1(m): 1:33am On Oct 22, 2019
I feel like SixSigma1 has already stolen some of my thunder cool. Kudos to him for his succinct and well-articulated post which does a great job in capturing the sentiments of the typical conservative voter! I could not have said it any better.

As it is clear from the posts here immigration is a hot topic. However, I stand behind my statement that immigration should be based primarily on the economic interests of the country. To add to the points already raised by SS1: The finances to run the current immigration system are staggering – irregular border crossings into Canada alone (a problem that has festered under Trudeau) cost the govt in the excess of $300m in 2017-18 and is projected to cost circa $600m in 2019 alone. The cost of the programs as a whole runs into billions of dollars. These are all costs borne by taxpayers. There is more it but with just this consideration alone it is common sense to match the immigration levels to what can be reasonably sustained viz-a-viz the expected and quantifiable gains from the program.
Still on the matter of illegal immigration, there are a projected 50K -100K people who will enter the country illegally in 2019 according to the CBSA. I think one media outlet stated it best;Trudeau’s #WelcomeToCanada virtue-signaling on social media led to a huge jump in illegal border crossings and asylum claims. His government’s changes to the asylum system — rubber stamping migrants from the most dangerous countries and eliminating fast-tracked deportations for bogus asylum claimants from safe countries — has opened the floodgates to those who seek to take advantage of Canada’s generosity.

Like in many other matters the current govt is seemly focused on the here and now... The cons are calling for a careful approach to this issue and unlike the libs who see it as the silver bullet (that has no downsides) to solve all of Canada's economic woes

Immigration is just one side of a multi-faceted election decision.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by SixSigma1(m): 1:43am On Oct 22, 2019
salford1:

Thanks for the reply. I wasn't able to get a government archive that talks about the caps back then. But I was able to get a screen shot on a different forum I was active on:

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/releases/2011/2011-06-24a.asp

Changes to economic immigration programs will help further reduce backlogs and improve wait times

Ottawa, June 24, 2011 — Canada is adjusting its intake of applications from economic immigrants to further reduce the backlog and improve wait times while meeting the country’s labour market needs, Citizenship, Immigration and Multiculturalism Minister Jason Kenney announced today.

“The backlog of federal skilled worker applications is now half of what it was when we announced the Action Plan for Faster Immigration in 2008,” said Minister Kenney. “These measures will help us to continue that progress.”

Canada receives many more immigration applications than can be accepted every year. As part of ongoing efforts to better align application intake with priorities for immigration, Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) is limiting the number of new applications it will consider in certain categories of the federal economic immigration stream.

Effective July 1, 2011, the changes will affect new applicants to the federal Skilled Worker, federal Immigrant Investor and federal Entrepreneur programs. The changes will not affect the number of permanent resident admissions in 2011 in these three categories.

“Canada continues to welcome historically high numbers of new immigrants each year, but the Government continues to receive applications that far exceed this number,” said Minister Kenney. “If we don't keep putting reasonable limits on new applications, backlogs and wait times will grow.”

In November 2008, the government first took steps to identify for processing those federal skilled worker applications that responded to Canada’s labour needs, such as applicants with arranged employment offers from Canadian employers or with experience in an occupation in high demand. In June 2010, the government released an updated list of 29 priority occupations and introduced a global cap of 20,000 for federal skilled workers, as well as a sub-cap of 1,000 under each occupation. Over the past year, CIC has received approximately 13,800 federal skilled worker applications under the priority occupations list (figure accurate as of June 24, 2011).

Now, for applicants who do not have an offer of employment in Canada, the government will further limit the number of new federal skilled worker applications that are considered for processing to 10,000 a year, beginning July 1. This limit will help better align the number of applications with labour market demand. Within the 10,000 limit, a maximum of 500 new applications in each of the current 29 priority occupations will be considered.

In addition, the Minister is introducing a cap of 700 on new federal investor applications. Although last year, CIC made changes that raised the minimum net worth and investment requirements, it continues to receive applications in excess of what is required. An annual cap on new applications will allow for progress on backlog reduction while ensuring that the Department has a sufficient volume of new files to meet its commitments.

The Minister is also introducing a temporary moratorium on new federal entrepreneur applications. Wait times for this program currently stretch to eight years in some visa offices. By ceasing to accept new applications as of July 1, the government will prevent further processing delays. The federal Entrepreneur Program will undergo a review in the coming months to ensure that Canada is better able to attract and retain innovative entrepreneurs.

The authority for these changes, which are being introduced through ministerial instructions, comes from amendments to the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act approved by Parliament in 2008 as part of the Action Plan for Faster Immigration. The instructions are meant to be a flexible tool that allows the government to align the intake of immigration applications with priorities for immigration.

Since these changes were implemented in November 2008, the backlog of pre-2008 federal skilled worker applicants has decreased by 50 percent. As well, priority applications are being processed in a period of months rather than years, as was the case prior to the 2008 changes.

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The bolded was the stream I arrived on and I was certain it was 20k per year
Applications usually filled within 2 months of application, and you wait till it reopens the following year with changes.
The over 200k in the data table you posted might include other streams like family reunification, temporary foreign workers, Grandparents etc. It specified immigrants but did not mention if they were permanent on did not also specify the visa classes.

The article you posted is correct when it comes to the number of new skilled worker applications to be accepted for that year and not the number of skilled people to be granted landed immigrant papers for that year. These are two different things. They had to reduce number of new application so as to focus on already submitted applications causing the backlog. The article also made it clear that the reason why the number of new application was being reduced is because there is already a backlog that needs to be addressed and it was being addressed by reducing the number of new applications to allow them time to process existing application.

The other option they could have done which they actually eventually did is to send back applications if they have been in the backlog for X number of years. In fact, this strategy is what is currently being used for EE in the sense that if you do not get selected from the pool within a year, you profile is canceled and you have to submit a new profile. This is being done is to avoid backlog as they have learnt from past experience. By the way, profile being valid for only one year also started with the conservative and the liberal continued it as it makes sense to do so to avoid backlog.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by salford1: 1:49am On Oct 22, 2019
SixSigma1:


The article you posted is correct when it comes to the number of new skilled worker applications to be accepted for that year and not the number of skilled people to be granted landed immigrant papers for that year. These are two different things. They had to reduce number of new application so as to focus on already submitted applications causing the backlog. The article also made it clear that the reason why the number of new application was being reduced is because there is already a backlog that needs to be addressed and it was being addressed by reducing the number of new applications to allow them time to process existing application.

The other option they could have done which they actually eventually did is to send back applications if they have been in the backlog for X number of years. In fact, this strategy is what is currently being used for EE in the sense that if you do not get selected from the pool within a year, you profile is canceled and you have to submit a new profile. This is being done is to avoid backlog as they have learnt from past experience. By the way, profile being valid for only one year also started with the conservative and the liberal continued it as it makes sense to do so to avoid backlog.
Okay. You are right. There were people from previous years that were granted landed immigrants status the same year I applied and subsequent years. These were different from those whose app were canceled.

Now that we have voted. Now to start watching the results roll in. Tonight is going to be exciting.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Bawss1(m): 1:55am On Oct 22, 2019
This will be me if a random party like the Greens win tonight grin

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by salford1: 2:11am On Oct 22, 2019
I also do not think the level of refugees been resettled is that high as the Con make it to look. Canada accepted 28,100 refugees for permanent resettlement last year.

Bawss1:
I feel like SixSigma1 has already stolen some of my thunder cool. Kudos to him for his succinct and well-articulated post which does a great job in capturing the sentiments of the typical conservative voter! I could not have said it any better.

As it is clear from the posts here immigration is a hot topic. However, I stand behind my statement that immigration should be based primarily on the economic interests of the country. To add to the points already raised by SS1: The finances to run the current immigration system are staggering – irregular border crossings into Canada alone (a problem that has festered under Trudeau) cost the govt in the excess of $300m in 2017-18 and is projected to cost circa $600m in 2019 alone. The cost of the programs as a whole runs into billions of dollars. These are all costs borne by taxpayers. There is more it but with just this consideration alone it is common sense to match the immigration levels to what can be reasonably sustained viz-a-viz the expected and quantifiable gains from the program.
Still on the matter of illegal immigration, there are a projected 50K -100K people who will enter the country illegally in 2019 according to the CBSA. I think one media outlet stated it best;Trudeau’s #WelcomeToCanada virtue-signaling on social media led to a huge jump in illegal border crossings and asylum claims. His government’s changes to the asylum system — rubber stamping migrants from the most dangerous countries and eliminating fast-tracked deportations for bogus asylum claimants from safe countries — has opened the floodgates to those who seek to take advantage of Canada’s generosity.

Like in many other matters the current govt is seemly focused on the here and now... The cons are calling for a careful approach to this issue and unlike the libs who see it as the silver bullet (that has no downsides) to solve all of Canada's economic woes

Immigration is just one side of a multi-faceted election decision.
Trudeau goofed when he went on twitter about how Canada was welcoming to all. The issue I see with the irregular crossing is that the government have to cater for them till their case is completed; however, I think they also get work permit which enables them to work thereby pay taxes back to the government.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by henritinecy(m): 2:48am On Oct 22, 2019
Hello Nairalanders, please I want to ask for the best way to travel to Canada. I don't have enough funds for Students visa. But someone recommended a work visa for 2 years. And they said it costs N2m. I want to find out if that works out or any other way, I can use to travel to Canada. Thank you
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by salford1: 3:11am On Oct 22, 2019
henritinecy:
Hello Nairalanders, please I want to ask for the best way to travel to Canada. I don't have enough funds for Students visa. But someone recommended a work visa for 2 years. And they said it costs N2m. I want to find out if that works out or any other way, I can use to travel to Canada. Thank you
Smells like a scam.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by salford1: 3:14am On Oct 22, 2019
Liberal is in. Minority gov.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by SixSigma1(m): 3:31am On Oct 22, 2019
salford1:
Liberal is in. Minority gov.

Yes, Liberal is in as minority.

Congratulations to all of you my liberal friends.

As for my fellow conservatives, we still have a big role to play as the official opposition. Let us hold the liberal accountable to ensure that we do not go into the amount of debt they would love to get us into.

Note that we may be different in our ideas of what is good for Canada but I strongly believe that we both (conservatives and liberals) want the best for Canada. This is the most important fact irrespective of the results today.

God bless Canada!

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Bawss1(m): 3:47am On Oct 22, 2019
Congrats to the liberals!

I think a huge opportunity to turn things around for the country was lost. We are all staying the course .

Good luck to Alberta and the oil industry in Canada as a whole they'll need it from here on out.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by salford1: 3:59am On Oct 22, 2019
SixSigma1:


Yes, Liberal is in as minority.

Congratulations to all of you my liberal friends.

As for my fellow conservatives, we still have a big role to play as the official opposition. Let us hold the liberal accountable to ensure that we do not go into the amount of debt they would love to get us into.

Note that we may be different in our ideas of what is good for Canada but I strongly believe that we both (conservatives and liberals) want the best for Canada. . This is the most important fact irrespective of the results today.

God bless Canada!
Absolutely.
Thanks once again for your contribution to this election topic.

We want a better Canada no matter who wins or who loses. Proud to be Canadian.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by salford1: 4:01am On Oct 22, 2019
Bawss1:
Congrats to the liberals!

I think a huge opportunity to turn things around for the country was lost. We are all staying the course .

Good luck to Alberta and the oil industry in Canada as a whole they'll need it from here on out.
Nenshi just said the same thing. He said all of Canada are firing from all cylinders except Alberta. Alberta had a chance to turn things around for themselves too if they try and atleast try to diversify it's economy instead of depending solely on oil. One can even tell from the pattern of the votes. The blue areas are oil regions. Alberta, Saskatchewan, Southern Manitoba and north east to central BC. Alberta's budget would also be released tomorrow. Albertans would need to brace for impact, the cuts are coming. An Alberta PST(provincial sales tax) wouldn't be a bad idea instead of cuts, but that will piss people off.

Hopefully, Sheer would resign and the Cons bring in someone more likeable and with political clout in their caucus like the retired Rona Ambrose. Hard to believe Sheer could not beat a battered Trudeau that messed up and goofed so much.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by mikel88: 7:02am On Oct 22, 2019
Hello good people, apologies for the diversion please I did my biometric yesterday and my tracking number is *****CALATRV****and under the visa category it says “individual TRV”. Is this normal as I am expecting to see *****CALAPRV**** since the biometric is for PR abi am I missing something ? . Someone should please enlighten me oo I traveled from Canada to Naija solely because of this biometric and I wouldn’t want any issues...
Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Freeopod(m): 7:04am On Oct 22, 2019
salford1:

Nenshi just said the same thing. He said all of Canada are firing from all cylinders except Alberta. Alberta had a chance to turn things around for themselves too if they try and atleast try to diversify it's economy instead of depending solely on oil. One can even tell from the pattern of the votes. The blue areas are oil regions. Alberta, Saskatchewan, Southern Manitoba and north east to central BC. Alberta's budget would also be released tomorrowt

What will be the impact of this election on Alberta. Is there anything we need to know cos a whole lot of Nigerian immigrants are eyeing Alberta. Will there be wage cut, high taxes etc. What are the new things to put into cons
consideration especially for those who are landing next year.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by ednut1(m): 7:18am On Oct 22, 2019
henritinecy:
Hello Nairalanders, please I want to ask for the best way to travel to Canada. I don't have enough funds for Students visa. But someone recommended a work visa for 2 years. And they said it costs N2m. I want to find out if that works out or any other way, I can use to travel to Canada. Thank you
ask if he has done same for himself and siblings first.. cheap scam

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by Influential101: 7:34am On Oct 22, 2019
I was particularly scared of the conservatives winning because of their stand on gun laws.. didn't want Canada to face what America is facing today..

Security of lives is a bigger issue to me than tax.

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Re: Living In Canada/Life As A Canadian Immigrant Part 2 by maternal: 7:57am On Oct 22, 2019
Freeopod:


What will be the impact of this election on Alberta. Is there anything we need to know cos a whole lot of Nigerian immigrants are eyeing Alberta. Will there be wage cut, high taxes etc. What are the new things to put into cons
consideration especially for those who are landing next year.

You'll get different answers depending on who you ask.
But as a whole everyday life won't change. At least not overnight.

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