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favouryemmy:
Yes, it's true. Nigerian lecturers do not hold multiple full time lecturing jobs. It's a cheap blackmail by the FG to force the university staff to join IPPIS, which is against the extant laws that established the universities. A Lecturer is only allowed to do adjunct or visiting lecturing jobs, which are part time jobs. Before universities employ lecturers, they ensure that such persons do not hold any other full-time job before the appointment letters are issued. This is because they know that it's against the law to hold multiple full time jobs at same time when working in the public service.

Every country is guided by laws and the rule of law must be upheld by any government if not anarchy could set in. Universities do not just come into existence, every university is established only after the law establishing it has been made. Therefore universities have laws that are backing them as passed by the national assembly. In addition, there is an act of the national assembly that is dedicated to universities generally in the country.

Now, the law of universities all over the world and Nigeria establishes that universities must have governing councils, whose members are appointed by the visitor (the president, for federal universities and ; the governor for the state). These governing councils are by law vested with the responsibility of managing the university in terms of its employment, finances, etc. Therefore, university workers are responsible to their respective governing councils, which employed them. Remember also that they are employed by the visitor to manage the universities and they need not be redundant according to the law.

The law also states that any government policy that is contrary to the law should never supercede law. That means that the law is sacrosanct on such matters. The IPPIS will erroneously remove the power to manage the finances and employment of staff from the governing councils and this is against the law. The law of the land no matter whose ox is gored must supercede any contrary policy as is the case with the IPPIS. The government of the land must uphold the law as they swore to do.

If we must move forward as a country, we must learn to respect our laws else we would be inviting more anarchy in the country. I am typing this in order to educate the readers and to ensure that we do not fall for the cheap blackmail by the FG. Several MDAs that joined the IPPIS are currently regretting their decisions, due to its many disadvantages. Please check the links below.

They do hold multiple employment which is why they are grossly ineffective
it's against work ethics in any organisation inclusive of university to do part time jobs at the same time being fully employed
They have sabbaticals, they can work as visiting academicians then
These are one of those things that are damaging our education system
it's not obtainable in saner climes...Those lecturers are damn too corrupt

Despite its shortcomings, the IPPIS payment platform is still the best presently. The best ASUU can do is to develop an alternative payment platform that can correct the shortcomings in IPPIS.
Our administrators are fraudulent & a lot of them feed on ghost workers salaries, underpayment of staff & giving multiple appointments to their cronies.
Lecturers in public institutions are employees of government & the institutions funded by government & the VCs appointed by the Visitors to the institutions; so the issue of autonomy does not make sense.
Finally, the academics are the catalysts that induce development in any society. They should be at the forefront of policy formations, critical thinking & life changing innovations & researches.
Unfortunately in Nigeria they are not celebrated nor properly motivated. To become a Prof. & become a politician - VC, electoral officer etc. is now the dream of a lot of academics.
The universities need reformation.

favouryemmy:
You didn't read the post and you're criticizing. What do you know that the post said then? When you criticize, do so objectively and with fact and not assumptions

It's fallacious to claim lecturers don't have multiple full time jobs without proper findings... That puts the entire post in the poor light of bias and lacking in objectivity.

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9japrof:
ASUU, ASUP or whatever body you guys form under the guise of unionism are thieves, rogues, cunny and lieing bastards who are only after their selfish interests...

Lecturers don't do two jobs, really? We all know you guys are lieing. We know many lecturers who work multiple hours for multiple schools sometimes in different states to earn multiple pay while suffering the students with less teaching hours and attention. Because they have too much workload, they end up grading the students below par because they delegate the responsibility of grading to students who sometimes don't know what they are marking.

Lecturers what about sabbatical leave where a lecturer on a 400k salary for example would move to another university or polytechnic and earn double salary at the same time for one year. This is what the rogues are fighting.

ASUU are also confused as individual members and also as a group, I know in some schools, members have been clamping down on their management of deducting their funds who should applaud this initiative are the ones fighting it, do you wanna know why?

Because another part of this IPPS backlash is because their are allowances these money loving lecturers received from their various institutions which the federal government are not aware and wouldn't agree to pay if there is a shift to the IPPS payment. These payments are usually made using the institution's IGR and would cease since payments can now be made directly from the FG.

Do you know that these lecturers even after retirement lobby management to still employ them on contract where they are still paid the same bogus salary they earn even before retirement with little or no output, all these would stop or even reduce to a barest minimum if IPPS is implemented...

Federal Government wants to block a very big loophole in the mismanagement of funds and as usual the useless ASUU is fighting. Think for example the block money the FG send to universities/Polytechnics monthly, in among these funds, some staff have died, some have resigned, some have retired and in most schools majority of them are not being replaced, what it says is that most universities/Polytechnics, there are bunch of ghost workers that would be unearthed as soon as there is a shift in IPPS, no wonder some schools are silently employing staff underground to shore up the staff they claim to have...

I know what I am saying and I ask any ASUU/ASUP lecturer to counter this

Another ignorant fool ranting.

Sabbatical leave and engagement of a retired professor for no more than a period of 5 years are both contained within the laws establishng universities. In years gone by, lecturers used to travel abroad on sabbatical leave, in case you do not know.

Sabbatical leave is a period where a lecturer takes a break of 1 or 2 years to join another university to build capacity for the other university. You can liken this to when soldiers are engaged in peacekeeping operations. After their operations, they are paid a special allowance in foreign currency and return to their home countries and back to the armed forces of their nation.

It is the same with sabbatical leave. After the period of engagement by the 2nd university, the lecturer is expected to go back to his primary university of employment to continue his work.

Some of you Nigerians who come online to rant on the basis of abyssmal ignorance need to know the laws of your country as pertaining establishment of institutions.

favouryemmy:
Yes, the FG said that, but only with word of mouth. It didn't capture it and during the meeting ASUU asked them some pertinent questions which they could not answer. Please click on the link below the original post to see what those currently on IPPIS are suffering

Look at what you are saying in the bolded statements, it didn't capture it? When they are yet to submit information for the enrollment you already said it didn't capture it.

Please can you help post the pertinent questions ASUU asked the FG which FG was unable to answer. Some of us may help FG to provide answer to the questions assuming they suddenly have become dafts.

My own is that ASUU will fail on this one. If they make good their threat by embarking on strike, they will definitely get it bad this time because majority of Nigerians will never support them.

The other MDAs that have already joined IPPIS also have various boards and governing councils appointed by FG to oversee their affairs too, but those MDAs were coerced into joining the IPPIS with the threat of no salary for anybody who is not captured by IPPIS.
Varsities should just defer to the greater pressure of FG as other MDAs and readjust their various internal systems to accommodate the new realities.

favouryemmy:
You Lecturer would most likely be doing adjunct lecturing or visiting lecturing there. It's not a full-time job and such part-time jobs are allowed in lecturing. That you're marking scripts for him doesn't make it a full time job

Bros you stand by what you said, and I stand by what I said. This dude had two full time jobs as a lecturer . Shalom.

stagger:
Another ignorant fool ranting.

Sabbatical leave and engagement of a retired professor for no more than a period of 5 years are both contained within the laws establishng universities. In years gone by, lecturers used to travel abroad on sabbatical leave, in case you do not know.

Sabbatical leave is a period where a lecturer takes a break of 1 or 2 years to join another university to build capacity for the other university. You can liken this to when soldiers are engaged in peacekeeping operations. After their operations, they are paid a special allowance in foreign currency and return to their home countries and back to the armed forces of their nation.

It is the same with sabbatical leave. After the period of engagement by the 2nd university, the lecturer is expected to go back to his primary university of employment to continue his work.

Some of you Nigerians who come online to rant on the basis of abyssmal ignorance need to know the laws of your country as pertaining establishment of institutions.

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Who made himself a greater foool now, oya hold on lemme make this clear for you since you lack comprehension skills ...

Did I ever tell you that those laws or acts don't exist? Did you see me in my writeup question that, or do you just want to make a mockery of yourself?

Do you think for example that the federal government would still pay double salaries(400k for example) if they were to do sabatical under the IPPS... Brother think, think well, that's why they are fighting... Allowances are different compared to double salaries...

destinie2019:
The university system has a structure that allows sabbaticals (every 7 years a lecturer can spend 1 year lecturing elsewhere), external examiners for final year projects and professional exams, visiting lecturers, special occasions like excursions or off station classes (French students go to French village Badagry or Lome) etc etc. In all these situations the lecturer draws special allowances. If you inaugurate IPPIS, these allowances will show up as suspicious transactions.
STUDENTS WILL END UP SUFFERING FOR WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE DOING.

do u think u are talking to dundees?
It's a computer program, can be adjusted to suit the university system. If those things are legal, the system will accommodate they. And they will be tested by the users before implemention

RichDad1:
But these can also be factored into the IPPIS.

exactly what I told the poster

favouryemmy:
You're wrong, because the content of this write up is the truth. The person that wrote is a good person that wants the readers to understand that ASUU has a genuine reason to reject the untoward policy. Did you even click on the links below to discover the corruption in IPPIS? When you see facts, you should reason with it. Those links show what people that have enrolled in IPPIS are suffering and that is part of why ASUU is rejecting it. We should face facts and not insinuations. Besides, IPPIS is designed for core civil servants and University workers are not in that category.

Based on what research did you come about this assertion that lecturers don’t get paid full salary from multiple institutions?

The IPPIS will tell the truth. Wait for it.

amunkita03:
I will agree with you on blocking loopholes which is the main idea of IPPIS but will differ on others because you are very ignorant on those issues(no offense intended). There should be a different system for University lecturers and it has to originate from the governing council since the law only allows the council to regulate & manage universities. IPPIS template is designed for civil servants. The didn't consider university lecturers and it's perculiarity(I'm sure u've not heard of hazard, earned and research allowances).
The loopholes can be blocked easily if it's done the proper way. Ask/appeal to governing councils to design a system or adopt similar system like IPPIS that accomodates her perculiarities. Observe and Work with them to ensure smooth and timely implementation. Don't forget, it's FG that appoints governing council members, so it should be easy to get them work on this.

Finally, clean up IPPIS system for civil servants using it. If u are proposing a system, ensure your system is atleast 80% efficient for group using it before adding others.
Clear & avoidable problems with IPPIS are:
i. The system was built by private entity personnel with poor background on system analysis, database management system and nothing close to modern payroll softwares like ADP solutions used globally due to its unique features and ability to accept perculiar system upgrade patches(Reason promotion of staff is not reflected in the system, the simply recapture the staff each time he/she is promoted. Height of inefficiency.....)

ii. A situation where a staff who is promoted will still have to go to abuja, after writing several letters and filling all necessary and unecessary forms just to bribe an office assistant inorder to update payroll is sickening and shameful.


PS: You said something about countering u. No i won't do that because it's not a contest, i can only state the obvious.
With the above, i don't need to mention my profession because u can decipher.

There is no doubt about the imperfections of IPPIS as is presently constituted, for instance, you will see a situation where two or more professionals of the same professional Cadre and same Designation/rank working in similar institutions are placed on DIFFERENT GRADE LEVELS/EQUIVALENTS by the same IPPIS... Too bad!!!!
But the issue of promotion is not automatic on IPPIS because because the powers of appointment, promotion, discipline and control (APDC) of staff vested on the governing council or boards. And IPPIS would not know if any staff has been appointed or scaled through promotion or disciplined by denial of promotion, etc until IPPIS is fed with such information from the respective governing council or board.

favouryemmy

I just read an article about why ASUU is hesitant on the new payroll system. However, I they need to own the story and control the narrative about this thing because apparently the new system does not make provisions for certain situations that provision has been made for in act governing the universities.

Any one interested can read it here

https://twitter.com/UchePOkoye/status/1189062901207838720?s=19

amadiwati:
Whoever wrote this, with due respect is evil and does not want the progress of the is country. We know the country is not in a a good state. But the little good that is done we should encourage.
There is so much rot, corruption in the university system.ASUU are bunch of thieves and greedy folks. Nasu, Saanu have all keyed into the new policy. Why is it just assu.
Please if you can do your deligence on the matter, It will be more convincing than what I'd divulge to you. FG is not turning back on this , trust me its a time of visitation for ASUU

All the research staff of government research institutions who have joined IPPIS cannot employ
1. Sabbatical Research Staff
2. Adjunct Staff
3. Neither can they go on sabbatical

Until the extant rule governing the universities are changed, ippis cannot be imposed on them unilaterally.

Geenosko:
Bros you stand by what you said, and I stand by what I said. This dude had two full time jobs as a lecturer . Shalom.

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Geenosko:
Bros you stand by what you said, and I stand by what I said. This dude had two full time jobs as a lecturer . Shalom.

uote author=GOFRONT post=83550501]Okay, Good.....

But Nigerian lecturers do demand sex for marks??

Nigerians with their multiple sources of income Mentality everywhere!!!!.....So many threads on Nairaland business section encouraging Multiple source of income, Some of those threads may be written by a Nigerian lecturer!!!!


* Charge a corrupt Nigerian politician to Court and he/she tries to evade judgement by Feigning Illness on wheekchair...

* Investigate a CorruptNigerian politician with EFCC and he will begin to cry Witchhunt.

* Introduce IPPIS into the Universities....Now see how Nigerian lecturerz are running helter skelter...[/quote]They do abeg even my current HOD in my university still teaches in Kano state university of technology so what are u guys saying. ASSU na scam

9japrof:
ASUU, ASUP or whatever body you guys form under the guise of unionism are thieves, rogues, cunny and lieing bastards who are only after their selfish interests...

Lecturers don't do two jobs, really? We all know you guys are lieing. We know many lecturers who work multiple hours for multiple schools sometimes in different states to earn multiple pay while suffering the students with less teaching hours and attention. Because they have too much workload, they end up grading the students below par because they delegate the responsibility of grading to students who sometimes don't know what they are marking.

Lecturers what about sabbatical leave where a lecturer on a 400k salary for example would move to another university or polytechnic and earn double salary at the same time for one year. This is what the rogues are fighting.

ASUU are also confused as individual members and also as a group, I know in some schools, members have been clamping down on their management of deducting their funds who should applaud this initiative are the ones fighting it, do you wanna know why?

Because another part of this IPPS backlash is because their are allowances these money loving lecturers received from their various institutions which the federal government are not aware and wouldn't agree to pay if there is a shift to the IPPS payment. These payments are usually made using the institution's IGR and would cease since payments can now be made directly from the FG.

Do you know that these lecturers even after retirement lobby management to still employ them on contract where they are still paid the same bogus salary they earn even before retirement with little or no output, all these would stop or even reduce to a barest minimum if IPPS is implemented...

Federal Government wants to block a very big loophole in the mismanagement of funds and as usual the useless ASUU is fighting. Think for example the block money the FG send to universities/Polytechnics monthly, in among these funds, some staff have died, some have resigned, some have retired and in most schools majority of them are not being replaced, what it says is that most universities/Polytechnics, there are bunch of ghost workers that would be unearthed as soon as there is a shift in IPPS, no wonder some schools are silently employing staff underground to shore up the staff they claim to have...

I know what I am saying and I ask any ASUU/ASUP lecturer to counter this

One thing I know about Nigerians is, once they deep their hands into illicit practice that brings them free wealth, it takes the iron-cast fist of the government to remove it. ASUU will not oblige until government takes up a punitive measure against them.

thatigboman:
do u think u are talking to dundees?
It's a computer program, can be adjusted to suit the university system. If those things are legal, the system will accommodate they. And they will be tested by the users before implemention

I have a friend who is a civil servant. Ever since he was migrated to IPPIS, he has been on half pay and this is going to two years now

Many Nigerians don't read. Op posted something and included two links to understand the position of the writer. Instead of reading what's written in the links many of you i.dio.ts are running your mouth here.

The lecturers that are holding multiple fulltime jobs are not ghosts, the Federal government should sanction them appropriately. But this is HIGHLY unlikely. The academic community in Nigeria is a really small world, and there is no way you will be working fulltime in two places at once without one of the universities you are working with being complicit. The Federal Government is simply resorting to cheap and idiotic blackmail to force lecturers to be on IPPIS. It is surprising that the Federal Government is not addressing the damning allegations of corruption in the IPPIS scheme but instead is trying to pull the wool over our eyes. If we are not very careful this IPPIS scheme is a ploy to breed a new set of corrupt officers at the expense of the civil servants.

Some of the i.diot.ic individuals are attacking lecturers for being paid during Sabbatical year and yet holding employment in other institutions you are s.impletons. Instead of asking for clarification you immediately took that as an evidence of corruption in academic institutions. Funny, many of you are on the queue to join same institutions, yet you are here running your mouth over what you do not understand.

Employment during Sabbatical is a standard practice in academia.
Working as adjunct lecturer on the approval of the appropriate University authority is a standard practice.

Ask for clarifications, instead of preaching your ignorance to the world.

Fact: IPPIS is a government policy. The government should address its present dubious practices with the scheme before trying to bring more people in.

9japrof:
l

Who made himself a greater foool now, oya hold on lemme make this clear for you since you lack comprehension skills ...

Did I ever tell you that those laws or acts don't exist? Did you see me in my writeup question that, or do you just want to make a mockery of yourself?

Do you think for example that the federal government would still pay double salaries(400k for example) if they were to do sabatical under the IPPS... Brother think, think well, that's why they are fighting... Allowances are different compared to double salaries...

'double salary' indeed. Nigerians sha.

favouryemmy:
Yes, it's true. Nigerian lecturers do not hold multiple full time lecturing jobs. It's a cheap blackmail by the FG to force the university staff to join IPPIS, which is against the extant laws that established the universities. A Lecturer is only allowed to do adjunct or visiting lecturing jobs, which are part time jobs. Before universities employ lecturers, they ensure that such persons do not hold any other full-time job before the appointment letters are issued. This is because they know that it's against the law to hold multiple full time jobs at same time when working in the public service.

Every country is guided by laws and the rule of law must be upheld by any government if not anarchy could set in. Universities do not just come into existence, every university is established only after the law establishing it has been made. Therefore universities have laws that are backing them as passed by the national assembly. In addition, there is an act of the national assembly that is dedicated to universities generally in the country.

Now, the law of universities all over the world and Nigeria establishes that universities must have governing councils, whose members are appointed by the visitor (the president, for federal universities and ; the governor for the state). These governing councils are by law vested with the responsibility of managing the university in terms of its employment, finances, etc. Therefore, university workers are responsible to their respective governing councils, which employed them. Remember also that they are employed by the visitor to manage the universities and they need not be redundant according to the law.

The law also states that any government policy that is contrary to the law should never supercede law. That means that the law is sacrosanct on such matters. The IPPIS will erroneously remove the power to manage the finances and employment of staff from the governing councils and this is against the law. The law of the land no matter whose ox is gored must supercede any contrary policy as is the case with the IPPIS. The government of the land must uphold the law as they swore to do.

If we must move forward as a country, we must learn to respect our laws else we would be inviting more anarchy in the country. I am typing this in order to educate the readers and to ensure that we do not fall for the cheap blackmail by the FG. Several MDAs that joined the IPPIS are currently regretting their decisions, due to its many disadvantages. Please check the links below.

Even of you were right about no lecturer holding multiple jobs which I know cannot be true, what about casual staffs whose salary are being eaten by the autonomous university administrators? Security men, IT support, MIS staff? Let's be realistic, Your employer decides how he wants to pay you and there is no where in the world where employees dictates to employers on how to be paid.

bizme:
Many Nigerians don't read. Op posted something and included two links to understand the position of the writer. Instead of reading what's written in the links many of you i.dio.ts are running your mouth here.

The lecturers that are holding multiple fulltime jobs are not ghosts, the Federal government should sanction them appropriately. But this is HIGHLY unlikely. The academic community in Nigeria is a really small world, and there is no way you will be working fulltime in two places at once without one of the universities you are working with being complicit. The Federal Government is simply resorting to cheap and idiotic blackmail to force lecturers to be on IPPIS. It is surprising that the Federal Government is not addressing the damning allegations of corruption in the IPPIS scheme but instead is trying to pull the wool over our eyes. If we are not very careful this IPPIS scheme is a ploy to breed a new set of corrupt officers at the expense of the civil servants.

Some of the i.diot.ic individuals are attacking lecturers for being paid during Sabbatical year and yet holding employment in other institutions you are s.impletons. Instead of asking for clarification you immediately took that as an evidence of corruption in academic institutions. Funny, many of you are on the queue to join same institutions, yet you are here running your mouth over what you do not understand.

Employment during Sabbatical is a standard practice in academia.
Working as adjunct lecturer on the approval of the appropriate University authority is a standard practice.

Ask for clarifications, instead of preaching your ignorance to the world.

Fact: IPPIS is a government policy. The government should address its present dubious practices with the scheme before trying to bring more people in.

Even though I don't believe all you wrote, what do you think should be done for the lower employees in the universities whose salary are being 'eaten' by the autonomous admin.

9japrof:
ASUU, ASUP or whatever body you guys form under the guise of unionism are thieves, rogues, cunny and lieing bastards who are only after their selfish interests...

Lecturers don't do two jobs, really? We all know you guys are lieing. We know many lecturers who work multiple hours for multiple schools sometimes in different states to earn multiple pay while suffering the students with less teaching hours and attention. Because they have too much workload, they end up grading the students below par because they delegate the responsibility of grading to students who sometimes don't know what they are marking.

Lecturers what about sabbatical leave where a lecturer on a 400k salary for example would move to another university or polytechnic and earn double salary at the same time for one year. This is what the rogues are fighting.

ASUU are also confused as individual members and also as a group, I know in some schools, members have been clamping down on their management of deducting their funds who should applaud this initiative are the ones fighting it, do you wanna know why?

Because another part of this IPPS backlash is because their are allowances these money loving lecturers received from their various institutions which the federal government are not aware and wouldn't agree to pay if there is a shift to the IPPS payment. These payments are usually made using the institution's IGR and would cease since payments can now be made directly from the FG.

Do you know that these lecturers even after retirement lobby management to still employ them on contract where they are still paid the same bogus salary they earn even before retirement with little or no output, all these would stop or even reduce to a barest minimum if IPPS is implemented...

Federal Government wants to block a very big loophole in the mismanagement of funds and as usual the useless ASUU is fighting. Think for example the block money the FG send to universities/Polytechnics monthly, in among these funds, some staff have died, some have resigned, some have retired and in most schools majority of them are not being replaced, what it says is that most universities/Polytechnics, there are bunch of ghost workers that would be unearthed as soon as there is a shift in IPPS, no wonder some schools are silently employing staff underground to shore up the staff they claim to have...

I know what I am saying and I ask any ASUU/ASUP lecturer to counter this

Sabbatical is valid anywhere in the world... Be enlightened..

favouryemmy:
https://thenationonlineng.net/police-officers-to-buhari-senate-investigate-ippis-over-salaries/

http://saharareporters.com/2019/07/27/exclusive-corruption-how-office-nigeria%E2%80%99s-accountant-general-refused-pay-civil-servants

This is no joke. Can't believe this is really happening!

bizme:
Many Nigerians don't read. Op posted something and included two links to understand the position of the writer. Instead of reading what's written in the links many of you i.dio.ts are running your mouth here.

The lecturers that are holding multiple fulltime jobs are not ghosts, the Federal government should sanction them appropriately. But this is HIGHLY unlikely. The academic community in Nigeria is a really small world, and there is no way you will be working fulltime in two places at once without one of the universities you are working with being complicit. The Federal Government is simply resorting to cheap and idiotic blackmail to force lecturers to be on IPPIS. It is surprising that the Federal Government is not addressing the damning allegations of corruption in the IPPIS scheme but instead is trying to pull the wool over our eyes. If we are not very careful this IPPIS scheme is a ploy to breed a new set of corrupt officers at the expense of the civil servants.

Some of the i.diot.ic individuals are attacking lecturers for being paid during Sabbatical year and yet holding employment in other institutions you are s.impletons. Instead of asking for clarification you immediately took that as an evidence of corruption in academic institutions. Funny, many of you are on the queue to join same institutions, yet you are here running your mouth over what you do not understand.

Employment during Sabbatical is a standard practice in academia.
Working as adjunct lecturer on the approval of the appropriate University authority is a standard practice.

Ask for clarifications, instead of preaching your ignorance to the world.

Fact: IPPIS is a government policy. The government should address its present dubious practices with the scheme before trying to bring more people in.

The truth of the matter is a lot of Nigerians are jobless and frustrated. So anyone they feel is not sharing in their pains is seen as corrupt and evil. Add that to the government urchins on this forum and you get an healthy mix.
I believe if they were all to become employed as academics today, they'll change their songs.
That said, the academics should be more result-oriented in this matter rather than being confrontational. There are bad eggs among them who have exploited the system and need to be exposed. On the other hand, the academics deserve to have their full benefits as enshrined in the laws governing the profession.

IPPIS is a scam. How can a civil servant earn the same amount every year What happened to increments coming from annual steps

CodeTemplar:
Even though I don't believe all you wrote, what do you think should be done for the lower employees in the universities whose salary are being 'eaten' by the autonomous admin.

Making vague, generalized claims that emphasize a stereotype won't help anyone.
I dare you to tell the whole world where that is happening.

We should stop building a general narrative from isolated cases. The so-called lower employees in universities are some of the most up-and-doing association. No one can so "eat" their salary with a protest. If an employee is on suspension or punishment of any sort, does that translate to someone eating the salary?

Let me say this: most lecturers really want to be on IPPIS because of different deductions from their salaries by the school administration. But they are not willing to sacrifice the peculiarities of their employment (Sabbatical, adjunctship, external examination allowances) for that.

This government means no good for anyone.
It is a government that believes in robbing hardworking and well-meaning Nigerians of their legitimately earned money.
They have increased VAT.
They have introduced satanic POS and bank payment charges.
They want to introduce toll.
They now want to cut university workers' hard earned wages... and you guys are clapping and goading them on.
Curiously, most of our politicians go home with more than 14 million every month. No one is looking into this. Buhari at the expense of our pulse jets around the world. No one looks into this to cut cost.
They find it difficult to pay ordinary 30,000 naira for hard working Nigerians, while our overfed politicians smile home with insane millions every month.
Yet, many of you come to clap for this rudderless government for introducing policies that seek to rob the working class and pay the slumbering public officers.

This fight with ASUU the Federal Government can not win. You guys should realize the calibre of people that compose ASUU. ASUU has survived many governments and their ridiculous policies. They will survive this as well. If you want you can quote me on this.

favouryemmy:
https://thenationonlineng.net/police-officers-to-buhari-senate-investigate-ippis-over-salaries/

http://saharareporters.com/2019/07/27/exclusive-corruption-how-office-nigeria%E2%80%99s-accountant-general-refused-pay-civil-servants

In the jungle the mighty jungle Nigerians fool around tonight. rubbish junglrians lecturers that will dodge class for like two weeks wetin dem dey do outside and the so called paying system isn't clean. True and true is equal to true. Corrupt and corrupt equals kwarupt.

9japrof:
ASUU, ASUP or whatever body you guys form under the guise of unionism are thieves, rogues, cunny and lieing bastards who are only after their selfish interests...

Lecturers don't do two jobs, really? We all know you guys are lieing. We know many lecturers who work multiple hours for multiple schools sometimes in different states to earn multiple pay while suffering the students with less teaching hours and attention. Because they have too much workload, they end up grading the students below par because they delegate the responsibility of grading to students who sometimes don't know what they are marking.

Lecturers what about sabbatical leave where a lecturer on a 400k salary for example would move to another university or polytechnic and earn double salary at the same time for one year. This is what the rogues are fighting.

ASUU are also confused as individual members and also as a group, I know in some schools, members have been clamping down on their management of deducting their funds who should applaud this initiative are the ones fighting it, do you wanna know why?

Because another part of this IPPS backlash is because their are allowances these money loving lecturers received from their various institutions which the federal government are not aware and wouldn't agree to pay if there is a shift to the IPPS payment. These payments are usually made using the institution's IGR and would cease since payments can now be made directly from the FG.

Do you know that these lecturers even after retirement lobby management to still employ them on contract where they are still paid the same bogus salary they earn even before retirement with little or no output, all these would stop or even reduce to a barest minimum if IPPS is implemented...

Federal Government wants to block a very big loophole in the mismanagement of funds and as usual the useless ASUU is fighting. Think for example the block money the FG send to universities/Polytechnics monthly, in among these funds, some staff have died, some have resigned, some have retired and in most schools majority of them are not being replaced, what it says is that most universities/Polytechnics, there are bunch of ghost workers that would be unearthed as soon as there is a shift in IPPS, no wonder some schools are silently employing staff underground to shore up the staff they claim to have...

I know what I am saying and I ask any ASUU/ASUP lecturer to counter this

It is very difficult to understand why one post is loaded with so ignorance. It is obvious you don't know jerk about how universities are managed, and the activities of academic staff, as employees of these institutions. ASUU met with the leaders of the National Assembly yesterday and educated them on the harm the scheme would cause on the powers and rights of the parliament, because an administrative policy of the executive branch of government cannot supercede the Act of Parliament. Furthermore, ASUU has been forthcoming with ideas that will ensure that the percularities of the university environment is appropriately captured by the scheme. The government is yet to demonstrate how the scheme would be amenable to the flexibility nature of academic environment. I have to inform you that October salary has been paid against the boast, threat, and misinformation of the Accountant General that all MDAs that didn't enroll on the scheme would not be paid.

Most importantly, though, I am worried about your inability to comprehend and digest what the OP wrote, even though it appeared in plain, simple English.

mrblessed:
It is very difficult to understand why one post is loaded with so ignorance. It is obvious you don't know jerk about how universities are managed, and the activities of academic staff, as employees of these institutions. ASUU met with the leaders of the National Assembly yesterday and educated them on the harm the scheme would cause on the powers and rights of the parliament, because an administrative policy of the executive branch of government cannot supercede the Act of Parliament. Furthermore, ASUU has been forthcoming with ideas that will ensure that the percularities of the university environment is appropriately captured by the scheme. The government is yet to demonstrate how the scheme would be amenable to the flexibility nature of academic environment. I have to inform you that October salary has been paid against the boast, threat, and misinformation of the Accountant General that all MDAs that didn't enroll on the scheme would not be paid.

Most importantly, though, I am worried about your inability to comprehend and digest what the OP wrote, even though it appeared in plain, simple English.

God will bless you for this post.
We ask the government to fund education, they refuse. Now they are interested in dipping their fraudulent IPPIS hand into the salaries of teachers in the education sector.

Agboriotejoye:
The truth of the matter is a lot of Nigerians are jobless and frustrated. So anyone they feel is not sharing in their pains is seen as corrupt and evil. Add that to the government urchins on this forum and you get an healthy mix.
I believe if they were all to become employed as academics today, they'll change their songs.
That said, the academics should be more result-oriented in this matter rather than being confrontational. There are bad eggs among them who have exploited the system and need to be exposed. On the other hand, the academics deserve to have their full benefits as enshrined in the laws governing the profession.

I completely agree with you on this. However bad eggs are everywhere, and in fact they are more numerous in the executive arm of the government than anywhere else. So this cannot be about bad eggs. For every bad egg-lecturer there are several that are doing their work conscientiously and diligently. Many of them have abandoned search for wealth to concentrate on contributing to knowledge. Yes, lecturers are paid pittance, and still the government is interested in removing that pittance through a shoddy incomplete IPPIS payment. If The Federal Government means well they will modify the IPPIS to accommodate the peculiarities of the academic institutions. Unfortunately we have a government that is led by quite a number of people that know little about the university system. So when they are told about Sabbatical year, call duty allowance for consultants, adjunct lecturership, payment of external examiners... they immediately turn up their noses and shout "Korruption!".

Unfortunately the Government has a ready audience in a very judgmental, hypocritical and hateful Nigerian audience who is ready to believe the worst of the university lecturers. Many of them come out here to spew nonsense about sex/money for grades, dereliction of duties, etc... How many of these hypocrites will share the story of the lecturers who have gone out of their ways to help/assist them without taking anything as payment... I mean beyond the call of duty? There are lecturers who have from their lean pockets paid their students' salaries. Their lecturers who have taken it upon themselves to appropriately mentor their students.. Some of these university products are where they are today because of the effort of some lecturers. There are lecturers that go to any length to make students understand concepts... Yet, all some of these hateful Nigerians come out to say is that lecturers are bad, are this are that...

If you think the universities/polytechnics are that terrible why do you keep sending your children to these same institutions?
Why not keep them at home and feed them with your overflowing cups of ignorance and despair for a change.
Why do you keep seeking jobs at these same institutions? Hmmm?

Once again, thanks for that wonderful comment.

bizme:
Making vague, generalized claims that emphasize a stereotype won't help anyone.
I dare you to tell the whole world where that is happening.

We should stop building a general narrative from isolated cases. The so-called lower employees in universities are some of the most up-and-doing association. No one can so "eat" their salary with a protest. If an employee is on suspension or punishment of any sort, does that translate to someone eating the salary?

Let me say this: most lecturers really want to be on IPPIS because of different deductions from their salaries by the school administration. But they are not willing to sacrifice the peculiarities of their employment (Sabbatical, adjunctship, external examination allowances) for that.

This government means no good for anyone.
It is a government that believes in robbing hardworking and well-meaning Nigerians of their legitimately earned money.
They have increased VAT.
They have introduced satanic POS and bank payment charges.
They want to introduce toll.
They now want to cut university workers' hard earned wages... and you guys are clapping and goading them on.
Curiously, most of our politicians go home with more than 14 million every month. No one is looking into this. Buhari at the expense of our pulse jets around the world. No one looks into this to cut cost.
They find it difficult to pay ordinary 30,000 naira for hard working Nigerians, while our overfed politicians smile home with insane millions every month.
Yet, many of you come to clap for this rudderless government for introducing policies that seek to rob the working class and pay the slumbering public officers.

This fight with ASUU the Federal Government can not win. You guys should realize the calibre of people that compose ASUU. ASUU has survived many governments and their ridiculous policies. They will survive this as well. If you want you can quote me on this.

You can rant all you want man, as I speak, there are security men on FG payroll in federal schools earning less than N30k minimum wage. The schools intercept the pay on their behalf and give them part of it instead of the actual pay. Plus there is no limit as to how a payroll app/system can be structured.
Also don't forget there is no where employees dictate how they should be paid. They only demand entitlements and not dictate pay to their employer. Their rejection of the payroll is in fact a pointer to the fact they are earning beyond their entitlements.
The only reasonable thing to hear from the lecturers at this point is the demand for their full entitlements from FG to be captured on IPPIS and not the rejection of IPPIS.

Your epistle is as useless as the ASUU effort at fighting their employers.