favouryemmy:


You don't have to agree but you should know the truth!

Your point of view is understandable... You will also agree that we as a country has been battling with corruption in a long while and government is doing everything to stem it... This IPPIS is one of the initiatives.

If in the wisdom of ASUU if it thinks that government should not supervise her payroll (though FG is bankrolling it) it should strife to independently generate income to pay her staffs

I have come to realise that majority of Nairalanders are students and they hate lecturers with passion as a result of what they may be passing through in various higher institutions. Be that as it may, the truth of the matter is that public higher institutions will finally collapse if their affairs especially as it concerns finance is controlled from Abuja. The way public primary and secondary schools are in Nigeria now would be the fate of public higher institutions.

Debye:
Lazy youths can't distinguish full time job and what is called adjunct.

Don't mind them. They do not understand the difference between having two jobs (one full-time and one part-time) and having two full-time lecturing jobs. All they have to do is read objectively and criticized objectively.

agabusta:
Then why are you running away from the IPPS?

Because it is against the extant laws establishing universities in the country.

ASUU is totally fücked up.

If they don't like the IPPIS, they can equally leave the civil service entirely.

Enough is enough.

RichDad1:

But these can also be factored into the IPPIS.

They are not factored in to the IPPIS. The FG is only using mere words to tell us that they are there but they're not. Students will suffer if universities move to IPPIS

1 professor or senior lecturer, 3-4 lecturing jobs yet the young stars can't even get a job to make ends meet. That's simply greediness, selfishnes and wickedness on the part of ASUU not to join the ippis.

favouryemmy:


They are not factored in to the IPPIS. The FG is only using mere words to tell us that they are there but they're not. Students will suffer if universities move to IPPIS

how would student suffer?

Geenosko:


My supervisor in university was a full time lecturer in another private university, I even helped him mark scripts and record scores. So it's very disingenuous of you to say that lecturers don't hold multiple jobs. It's definitely not all but quite a few do.

You Lecturer would most likely be doing adjunct lecturing or visiting lecturing there. It's not a full-time job and such part-time jobs are allowed in lecturing. That you're marking scripts for him doesn't make it a full time job

The OP on reading the response on this thread.

Afamed:

Why must people agree to your lies when most of us experienced this during our University days? From all indications , you have seriously been benefitting from this unscrupulous act. The way , you go around to defend this ASUU impunity

It's not a lie just because you said so. Everything written here is the truth. But, it's a free world, you don't have to believe it. But look at it objectively is what is expected

destinie2019:


Ask the core civil service whether they didn't lose their overtime, etc, when IPPIS was instituted. For external examiners, a university (or many) where they don't work will pay these monies, and IPPIS will show them as suspicious transactions. Remember that it's usually the senior professors and authorities within the area of study that come, with allowances for their hotel.and feeding etc. For someone who doesn't see the importance of education to national development, it would certainly appear as if these are frivolous expenses.
The flip side of this discourse is that aides of governors and councillors of local governments draw multiple times more than professors in travel and entertainment allowances, hence you find professors agreeing to become aides to politicians. How are we calibrating our national formula sef? Where will this take us?

Oga, you are misleading people with false information. Over time allowances, traveling allowances, hotel accommodations, visiting lecturers honorarium etc are never part of regular wage bills or salaries. They fall into other charts of accounts.

For instance, you will see such items like, travelling expenses, part timers honorarium, traveling and accommodation, overtime duty allowances etc. All these fall into overhead expenditure. Unless you are saying that IPPIS has eliminated anything overhead expenditure entirely, which is not and will never be true.

After all those other government agencies that have enrolled in the IPPIS still pay overtime duty allowances, travelling and accommodation expenses etc. And mind you, lecturers do not earn overtime but earn what they call "earned duty allowances" which they have been told that IPPIS will accommodate including their retirement age which will is not the same with that of regular civil servants.

kingi777:
I have come to realise that majority of Nairalanders are students and they hate lecturers with passion as a result of what they may be passing through in various higher institutions. Be that as it may, the truth of the matter is that public higher institutions will finally collapse if their affairs especially as it concerns finance is controlled from Abuja. The way public primary and secondary schools are in Nigeria now would be the fate of public higher institutions.

Lies.

By the way, has it not collapsed already?

If you had nothing to hide why avoid a transparent payment system?

MT:
The op's rant does not hold any water. Address the issue you have with IPPIS, don't attempt to whip up public sympathy on this because you won't get one. You and I know majority of you are very corrupt and incompetent. Like someone stated, if you see Nigerians fighting desperately over a particular issue, there's a corruption somewhere there they are trying to protect.

The purpose is not public sympathy but educating the public. If you looked at the article objectively and do your research very well, you'll know they are facts.

favouryemmy:


You don't have to agree but you should know the truth!

What truth is that? Almost everyone that has gone through the government-funded university system knows it is broken.

The FG in its own right to make the country better has introduced a new system to check payroll fraud and sanitise recruitment. ASUU insisting it will rather continue with a broken system because it has high regard for the law is really laughable.

If universities have been properly managed according to the "law", they probably won't be in this mess.

Whoever that wrote this just churned out some piece of garbage, repeating himself without making any reasonable point. Who makes the law for universities, the governing council right? Okay, have you not also heard that any law made by any agency, body or organisation must not contradict that of the federal republic of Nigeria? If the university governing council made a law and the federal government who own the university and by extension lay the university staff, decide to change the law through the national assembly, what then is wrong with that? You can't be under my employment and decide for me how to pay your salary. If I give you a job and tells you that your salary can only be paid into your bank account, meanwhile you don't have a bank account. Will you protest that because you don't have a bank account or you will quickly adjust by opening a bank account?

jadeliyi:

if you really care to know it not that they are being scared, but the government it self devise means to cheat, in this IPPIS when you are 60 years of age the system automatically remove, and a proffesor who are entil to lecture up to 70 years. not that alone the system is not programme to activate and pay outstanding fee of promotion and allowance. there are other thing they are 'SCARED' of sha.

I'm scared of your grammar.

God forbid.

Bellotelli:
This nonsense coming from the University staff. All govt agencies also has a board to oversee the affairs of the agency, and that does not in anyway take away the power of the president to come up with policies for the improvement of the system.

Please its just ASUU that is against IPPIS, the other 3 unions have no problem with it.

contigiency:


You lied especially on the bolded statements. You talk as if you are an agent. It has been demonstrated to ASUU time without number that their status and peculiarities will be configured in the IPPIS such that it will accomodate their retirement age and earned allowances. So why are you misleading people here?

Yes, they demonstrated it to ASUU, but ASUU saw through it and asked them some pertinent questions about the platform which they couldn't answer. IPPIS is ridden with several problems. Please click the link below the main post to know.

There are many allowances that are not factored into the IPPIS, ASSU is asking for its inclusion before they join. IPPIS is corruption itself, I've seen where Staff gets alert from their PFA without getting their salaries. Where did the money go? You will write and complain till you get tired, it will NEVER be restored. The system is not even close to perfection.

Afamed:

If you are sincere enough with yourself, you will know, most of those Professors only come to school to supervise exams. They practically don't exist to teach until two days to their exams. When I was in University, one of my lecturers only came on Thursday not even to lecture but to attend to administrstive issues

This is another problem entirely and IPPIS will not solve it.

Angelfrost:
Didn't bother reading beyond that first line...

Go do some real research... Don't be a dolt.

That was how y'all kept lying and covering up the issue of sex for grades, till BBC pulled down your pants. Mtchewww.

You didn't read the post and you're criticizing. What do you know that the post said then? When you criticize, do so objectively and with fact and not assumptions

contigiency:


Oga, you are misleading people with false information. Over time allowances, traveling allowances, hotel accommodations, visiting lecturers honorarium etc are never part of regular wage bills or salaries. They fall into other charts of accounts.

For instance, you will see such items like, travelling expenses, part timers honorarium, traveling and accommodation, overtime duty allowances etc. All these fall into overhead expenditure. Unless you are saying that IPPIS has eliminated anything overhead expenditure entirely, which is not and will never be true.

After all those other government agencies that have enrolled in the IPPIS still pay overtime duty allowances, travelling and accommodation expenses etc. And mind you, lecturers do not earn overtime but earn what they call "earned duty allowances" which they have been told that IPPIS will accommodate including their retirement age which will is not the same with that of regular civil servants.

No ministry pay those allowances except you are working in Abuja. Those in the States don't receive allowances.

favouryemmy:


You're wrong, because the content of this write up is the truth. The person that wrote is a good person that wants the readers to understand that ASUU has a genuine reason to reject the untoward policy. Did you even click on the links below to discover the corruption in IPPIS? When you see facts, you should reason with it. Those links show what people that have enrolled in IPPIS are suffering and that is part of why ASUU is rejecting it. We should face facts and not insinuations. Besides, IPPIS is designed for core civil servants and University workers are not in that category.

Lol

Is ASUU not joining IPPIS because it's against the law or because IPPIS is not working or because they're not core civil servants?

Cele tan e

ASUU is gradually loosing relevance and if you embark on any strike now people will stone you. In spite of all you collect you still churn out half baked students and heap all blame on Govt. You are not diff. from politicians

favouryemmy:


You don't have to agree but you should know the truth!

What truth? That a policy to cub leakages is been fought against and you call that truth.

gnykelly:


Your point of view is understandable... You will also agree that we as a country has been battling with corruption in a long while and government is doing everything to stem it... This IPPIS is one of the initiatives.

If in the wisdom of ASUU if it thinks that government should not supervise her payroll (though FG is bankrolling it) it should strife to independently generate income to pay her staffs

And then federal universities will become like private ones paying exorbitant school fees. How then will the common Nigerian be able to to afford to go to the university. Every well meaning country in the world still have public universities like Nigeria currently does. Do your research. Mind you, the FG still monitors the finances of the universities through the governing council members appointed by them in the first place. They have the power to hire and fire any underperforming council.

If they do not have nothing to hide, if they do not hold multiple jobs then why are they afraid.

Its not Blackmail if there's nothing to hide

lookingfly:
how would student suffer?

I copied this from a post above:
"I have come to realise that majority of Nairalanders are students and they hate lecturers with passion as a result of what they may be passing through in various higher institutions. Be that as it may, the truth of the matter is that public higher institutions will finally collapse if their affairs especially as it concerns finance is controlled from Abuja. The way public primary and secondary schools are in Nigeria now would be the fate of public higher institutions."

contigiency:


Oga, you are misleading people with false information. Over time allowances, traveling allowances, hotel accommodations, visiting lecturers honorarium etc are never part of regular wage bills or salaries. They fall into other charts of accounts.

For instance, you will see such items like, travelling expenses, part timers honorarium, traveling and accommodation, overtime duty allowances etc. All these fall into overhead expenditure. Unless you are saying that IPPIS has eliminated anything overhead expenditure entirely, which is not and will never be true.

After all those other government agencies that have enrolled in the IPPIS still pay overtime duty allowances, travelling and accommodation expenses etc. And mind you, lecturers do not earn overtime but earn what they call "earned duty allowances" which they have been told that IPPIS will accommodate including their retirement age which will is not the same with that of regular civil servants.

Yes, the FG said that, but only with word of mouth. It didn't capture it and during the meeting ASUU asked them some pertinent questions which they could not answer. Please click on the link below the original post to see what those currently on IPPIS are suffering

Akaujaa:
Whoever that wrote this just churned out some piece of garbage, repeating himself without making any reasonable point. Who makes the law for universities, the governing council right? Okay, have you not also heard that any law made by any agency, body or organisation must not contradict that of the federal republic of Nigeria? If the university governing council made a law and the federal government who own the university and by extension lay the university staff, decide to change the law through the national assembly, what then is wrong with that? You can't be under my employment and decide for me how to pay your salary. If I give you a job and tells you that your salary can only be paid into your bank account, meanwhile you don't have a bank account. Will you protest that because you don't have a bank account or you will quickly adjust by opening a bank account?

The law was made by the national assembly and not the governing council

lookingfly:
how would student suffer?

Another reason:

And then federal universities will become like private ones paying exorbitant school fees. How then will the common Nigerian be able to to afford to go to the university. Every well meaning country in the world still have public universities like Nigeria currently does. Do your research. Mind you, the FG still monitors the finances of the universities through the governing council members appointed by them in the first place. They have the power to hire and fire any underperforming council.