destinie2019:


The university system has a structure that allows sabbaticals (every 7 years a lecturer can spend 1 year lecturing elsewhere), external examiners for final year projects and professional exams, visiting lecturers, special occasions like excursions or off station classes (French students go to French village Badagry or Lome) etc etc. In all these situations the lecturer draws special allowances. If you inaugurate IPPIS, these allowances will show up as suspicious transactions.
STUDENTS WILL END UP SUFFERING FOR WHAT YOU PEOPLE ARE DOING.

it doesn't matter because students are suffering already

CodeTemplar:
You can rant all you want man, as I speak, there are security men on FG payroll in federal schools earning less than N30k minimum wage. The schools intercept the pay on their behalf and give them part of it instead of the actual pay. Plus there is no limit to how payroll can structured.
Also don't forget there is no where employees dictate how they should be paid. They only demand entitlements and not dictate pay to their employer. Their rejection of the payroll is in fact a pointer to the fact they are earning beyond their entitlements.
The only reasonable thing to here from the lecturers at this point is the demand for their full entitlements from FG to be captured on IPPIS and not the rejection of IPPIS.

Your epistle is as useless as the ASUU effort at fighting their employers.

This is not an epistle, you err there. This is free education for you.
There is no point matching your rant and ignorance here, thou hater. Patience comes at no cost. We should wait and see if the government will have its way... or if indeed the lecturers will keep their tradition.

bizme:


This is not an epistle, you err there. This is free education for you.
There is no point matching your rant and ignorance here, thou hater. Patience comes at no cost. We should wait and see if the government will have its way... or if indeed the lecturers will keep their tradition.

Dreamer...

People who suffer under ippis are those who have make varying age declarations that their bank data does not tally with office data.

favouryemmy:


You're wrong, because the content of this write up is the truth. The person that wrote is a good person that wants the readers to understand that ASUU has a genuine reason to reject the untoward policy. Did you even click on the links below to discover the corruption in IPPIS? When you see facts, you should reason with it. Those links show what people that have enrolled in IPPIS are suffering and that is part of why ASUU is rejecting it. We should face facts and not insinuations. Besides, IPPIS is designed for core civil servants and University workers are not in that category.

favouryemmy:

The IPPIS will erroneously remove the power to manage the finances and employment of staff from the governing councils and this is against the law.

Here, you have erred. The IPPIS automates salary payment in such a way that there is no possibility of dual payments on full time job et cetera.

The Police and other organizations still employ its staff. The IPPIS comes, enrolls them and trains members of the said institution to manage the platform.

Research...Don't be intentionally dumb.

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favouryemmy:


You're wrong, because the content of this write up is the truth. The person that wrote is a good person that wants the readers to understand that ASUU has a genuine reason to reject the untoward policy. Did you even click on the links below to discover the corruption in IPPIS? When you see facts, you should reason with it. Those links show what people that have enrolled in IPPIS are suffering and that is part of why ASUU is rejecting it. We should face facts and not insinuations. Besides, IPPIS is designed for core civil servants and University workers are not in that category.

I am a beneficiary of this IPPIS and I can tell u how good the scheme is. Many lecturers are holding too many positions in different Universities and u know the implication... the students are the ones suffering. I used to know one then that comes from UNN and he will mass up a lecture of three months in one day. Meaning, if u don't understand it,u should read it up.
Most beneficiaries are HODs and VC academics. Terrible people!
This ASUU is about to crash land. Even the court of law will not save u guys. If there is nothing to fear,why should anyone condemn IPPIS.

favouryemmy:


Another reason:

And then federal universities will become like private ones paying exorbitant school fees. How then will the common Nigerian be able to to afford to go to the university. Every well meaning country in the world still have public universities like Nigeria currently does. Do your research. Mind you, the FG still monitors the finances of the universities through the governing council members appointed by them in the first place. They have the power to hire and fire any underperforming council.

you've not correlated the how ASUU joining ippis would cause suffering in universities. Why should there be fee hike if ASUU joins ippis?

favouryemmy:
Yes, it's true. Nigerian lecturers do not hold multiple full time lecturing jobs. It's a cheap blackmail by the FG to force the university staff to join IPPIS, which is against the extant laws that established the universities. A Lecturer is only allowed to do adjunct or visiting lecturing jobs, which are part time jobs. Before universities employ lecturers, they ensure that such persons do not hold any other full-time job before the appointment letters are issued. This is because they know that it's against the law to hold multiple full time jobs at same time when working in the public service.

Every country is guided by laws and the rule of law must be upheld by any government if not anarchy could set in. Universities do not just come into existence, every university is established only after the law establishing it has been made. Therefore universities have laws that are backing them as passed by the national assembly. In addition, there is an act of the national assembly that is dedicated to universities generally in the country.

Now, the law of universities all over the world and Nigeria establishes that universities must have governing councils, whose members are appointed by the visitor (the president, for federal universities and ; the governor for the state). These governing councils are by law vested with the responsibility of managing the university in terms of its employment, finances, etc. Therefore, university workers are responsible to their respective governing councils, which employed them. Remember also that they are employed by the visitor to manage the universities and they need not be redundant according to the law.

The law also states that any government policy that is contrary to the law should never supercede law. That means that the law is sacrosanct on such matters. The IPPIS will erroneously remove the power to manage the finances and employment of staff from the governing councils and this is against the law. The law of the land no matter whose ox is gored must supercede any contrary policy as is the case with the IPPIS. The government of the land must uphold the law as they swore to do.

If we must move forward as a country, we must learn to respect our laws else we would be inviting more anarchy in the country. I am typing this in order to educate the readers and to ensure that we do not fall for the cheap blackmail by the FG. Several MDAs that joined the IPPIS are currently regretting their decisions, due to its many disadvantages. Please check the links below.

Lol... You write up betrays reality. There were few Lecturers in my department back then in school who were full-time Lecturers in Esut.The former two-time Rector of Oko Polytechnic Anambra State was a full-time Lecturer in Nnamdi Azikiwe University, Awka.

Some of you have two full-time lecturing jobs while many Nigerians out there don't have one. It won't be well with any one or group of people who don't want this country to move forward.

Whether una like am or not una must join IPPIS. You guys are not better than our civil and public servants that are under IPPIS.
Nonsense!

with BVN, it is impossible to be collecting salaries regularly from more than two government agencies without being traced.


Let the payroll of all lecturers and their various accounts be checked if they are suspected of double employment

amunkita03:









I will agree with you on blocking loopholes which is the main idea of IPPIS but will differ on others because you are very ignorant on those issues(no offense intended). There should be a different system for University lecturers and it has to originate from the governing council since the law only allows the council to regulate & manage universities. IPPIS template is designed for civil servants. The didn't consider university lecturers and it's perculiarity(I'm sure u've not heard of hazard, earned and research allowances).
The loopholes can be blocked easily if it's done the proper way. Ask/appeal to governing councils to design a system or adopt similar system like IPPIS that accomodates her perculiarities. Observe and Work with them to ensure smooth and timely implementation. Don't forget, it's FG that appoints governing council members, so it should be easy to get them work on this.

Finally, clean up IPPIS system for civil servants using it. If u are proposing a system, ensure your system is atleast 80% efficient for group using it before adding others.
Clear & avoidable problems with IPPIS are:
i. The system was built by private entity personnel with poor background on system analysis, database management system and nothing close to modern payroll softwares like ADP solutions used globally due to its unique features and ability to accept perculiar system upgrade patches(Reason promotion of staff is not reflected in the system, the simply recapture the staff each time he/she is promoted. Height of inefficiency.....)

ii. A situation where a staff who is promoted will still have to go to abuja, after writing several letters and filling all necessary and unecessary forms just to bribe an office assistant inorder to update payroll is sickening and shameful.


PS: You said something about countering u. No i won't do that because it's not a contest, i can only state the obvious.
With the above, i don't need to mention my profession because u can decipher.

Let's get it right. You said IPPIS was designed for civil servants, isn't it? Are lecturers not civil servants? Are some of them not employees of government.

favouryemmy:


And then federal universities will become like private ones paying exorbitant school fees. How then will the common Nigerian be able to to afford to go to the university. Every well meaning country in the world still have public universities like Nigeria currently does. Do your research. Mind you, the FG still monitors the finances of the universities through the governing council members appointed by them in the first place. They have the power to hire and fire any underperforming council.

What is really your point here? Oga, what's the relationship between lecturers joining IPPIS and students paying exorbitant school fees?

utenwuson:
Ippis is what most country use to check mate corruption but here people are rejecting it,

When I was in the University, in my 400 level to 500 level, most of the professors we had as lecturers don't come to school talk more of coming to class, most will either ask a graduate assistant to help them or some come to class a week to exam and give u handout, to study with tutorial questions. It's makes the exams easy as most at times we already know the question.

In fact my own very supervisor during my project worked with me from Ghana, we used mail to send and correct the work, I only met him one on one during my defense.

With ippis, let's know who is/are full time lecturers in more than one University and thus eliminate double salary, this will open jobs for the unemployed

Corruption is fighting back, what a Country!

CodeTemplar:


You can rant all you want man, as I speak, there are security men on FG payroll in federal schools earning less than N30k minimum wage. The schools intercept the pay on their behalf and give them part of it instead of the actual pay. Plus there is no limit as to how a payroll app/system can be structured.
Also don't forget there is no where employees dictate how they should be paid. They only demand entitlements and not dictate pay to their employer. Their rejection of the payroll is in fact a pointer to the fact they are earning beyond their entitlements.
The only reasonable thing to hear from the lecturers at this point is the demand for their full entitlements from FG to be captured on IPPIS and not the rejection of IPPIS.

Your epistle is as useless as the ASUU effort at fighting their employers.

I suspect you're not conversant with the issues. The rejection was based on the fact that their full entitlements which you also agreed should be covered by IPPIS is not covered. They asked the managers of the system how dat can be done and they didn't get a response. They then offered a platform they can create by themselves. If you watched the interaction with nass yesterday you'll get all that. The question then is why FG has not come out to address these issues.
We're in a democracy. Rights and rule of law is sacrosanct and must be obeyed by all. Jettisoning it on the altar of corruption is an invitation to anarchy. Anarchy is blind. It does not necessarily know it's supporters or opposers. Just like recession

favouryemmy:
Yes, it's true. Nigerian lecturers do not hold multiple full time lecturing jobs. It's a cheap blackmail by the FG to force the university staff to join IPPIS, which is against the extant laws that established the universities. A Lecturer is only allowed to do adjunct or visiting lecturing jobs, which are part time jobs. Before universities employ lecturers, they ensure that such persons do not hold any other full-time job before the appointment letters are issued. This is because they know that it's against the law to hold multiple full time jobs at same time when working in the public service.

Every country is guided by laws and the rule of law must be upheld by any government if not anarchy could set in. Universities do not just come into existence, every university is established only after the law establishing it has been made. Therefore universities have laws that are backing them as passed by the national assembly. In addition, there is an act of the national assembly that is dedicated to universities generally in the country.

Now, the law of universities all over the world and Nigeria establishes that universities must have governing councils, whose members are appointed by the visitor (the president, for federal universities and ; the governor for the state). These governing councils are by law vested with the responsibility of managing the university in terms of its employment, finances, etc. Therefore, university workers are responsible to their respective governing councils, which employed them. Remember also that they are employed by the visitor to manage the universities and they need not be redundant according to the law.

The law also states that any government policy that is contrary to the law should never supercede law. That means that the law is sacrosanct on such matters. The IPPIS will erroneously remove the power to manage the finances and employment of staff from the governing councils and this is against the law. The law of the land no matter whose ox is gored must supercede any contrary policy as is the case with the IPPIS. The government of the land must uphold the law as they swore to do.

If we must move forward as a country, we must learn to respect our laws else we would be inviting more anarchy in the country. I am typing this in order to educate the readers and to ensure that we do not fall for the cheap blackmail by the FG. Several MDAs that joined the IPPIS are currently regretting their decisions, due to its many disadvantages. Please check the links below.

it's simple, they should kindly amend the law.

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jadeliyi:

if you really care to know it not that they are being scared, but the government it self devise means to cheat, in this IPPIS when you are 60 years of age the system automatically remove, and a proffesor who are entil to lecture up to 70 years. not that alone the system is not programme to activate and pay outstanding fee of promotion and allowance. there are other thing they are 'SCARED' of sha.

High court judges retire at 65,Supreme court judges at 70,ASUP at 65 too.Yet all of them are still on this same IPPIS without any wahala.

The question is why is the FG in a hurry to add ASUU to IPPIS? Ask civil servants who are receiving wages through the payment system and they will tell u it is filled with inefficiency. If for instance they made a mistake on your payment for a month, na to go Abuja go rectify the thing and u will spend days plus bribe. Go and find out. The laws are clear on FG/ASUU agreement in 1992 which made the university councils the employer of university staff and this ensures autonomy for the institutions. If FG must change the status quo then let either the courts or lawmakers decide. They tried this before and lost out, that was why they created GIFMIS to be the payment platform for university staff.

shadeyinka:

All the research staff of government research institutions who have joined IPPIS cannot employ
1. Sabbatical Research Staff
2. Adjunct Staff
3. Neither can they go on sabbatical

Until the extant rule governing the universities are changed, ippis cannot be imposed on them unilaterally.

I don't really know the existing rules governing the university institution per se. But I am aware, FG made provisions for adjuncts and sabbatical, of course this cannot be eliminated. From information gathered , some reasons ASUU are against this ippis is that, FG made provisions for just a single adjunct and not multiple adjoint. Again, the payroll the university gives FG is different from the authentic one. Basically, FG wants to monitor the finances of the university. They should be accountable. FG had failed in some portions of the 2009 agreement, but little that has been done can't not be shown anywhere. TETFUND another cash cow for the university.

favouryemmy:


You're wrong, because the content of this write up is the truth. The person that wrote is a good person that wants the readers to understand that ASUU has a genuine reason to reject the untoward policy. Did you even click on the links below to discover the corruption in IPPIS? When you see facts, you should reason with it. Those links show what people that have enrolled in IPPIS are suffering and that is part of why ASUU is rejecting it. We should face facts and not insinuations. Besides, IPPIS is designed for core civil servants and University workers are not in that category.

Anybody can write a convicing artcile for the public to read. All asocciations of the university have bought into it . do does that means they are ignorant of the what ippis mean?. Do you know that more than half of the university lecturers are happy with this development of the introduction of ippis? Anyway we would see how the coming days unfold with this.

amadiwati:


I don't really know the existing rules governing the university institution per se. But I am aware, FG made provisions for adjuncts and sabbatical, of course this cannot be eliminated. From information gathered , some reasons ASUU are against this ippis is that, FG made provisions for just a single adjunct and not multiple adjoint. Again, the payroll the university gives FG is different from the authentic one. Basically, FG wants to monitor the finances of the university. They should be accountable. FG had failed in some portions of the 2009 agreement, but little that has been done can't not be shown anywhere. TETFUND another cash cow for the university.

The FG has several research institutions using IPPIS, unfortunately since that time, they've not been able to hire any adjunct staff because it is not taken care of in the IPPIS. They cannot employ staff on sabbatical for the same reason. The universities have reasons to be apprehensive of such moves by the FG.

I think salary payment is the most transparent part of university spendings. The FG had tried to monitor the IGR of the universities to a large extent.

I have worked in both our universities and FG owned research institutions to know that this policy doesn't favour the research institutions.

There is a lot Nigerians don't know about governance of the country. Let me give you a example
1. We are in October and the capital allocation to the research institutions have just been released for the year 2019
(So, the question is what research work is being done between January and October)
2. In the last four years, capital has not exceeded 50% of the budget.
3. In the last four years, overhead allocation (for running costs) had not exceeded five months out of 12.
4. Monies allocated are to be strictly utilized by contractors. How can research be done by staff when money is not allocated for research consumables but only capital?

When you look at the word of the research institutions, as a university, you won't want to box yourself into such kind of difficult constraints.

The only good thing IPPIS has done is that salaries are paid as at when due and hardly is anyone owed his salary.

Universities are designed to be flexible unfortunately IPPIS is a big constraint. FG pays university staff salaries, so they know the details of each salary earners. The indirect war is just about autonomy: nothing else

In summary, if you understand the deception that is on in government, you'll cry blue murder!

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kinguwem:
Despite its shortcomings, the IPPIS payment platform is still the best presently. The best ASUU can do is to develop an alternative payment platform that can correct the shortcomings in IPPIS.
Our administrators are fraudulent & a lot of them feed on ghost workers salaries, underpayment of staff & giving multiple appointments to their cronies.
Lecturers in public institutions are employees of government & the institutions funded by government & the VCs appointed by the Visitors to the institutions; so the issue of autonomy does not make sense.
Finally, the academics are the catalysts that induce development in any society. They should be at the forefront of policy formations, critical thinking & life changing innovations & researches.
Unfortunately in Nigeria they are not celebrated nor properly motivated. To become a Prof. & become a politician - VC, electoral officer etc. is now the dream of a lot of academics.
The universities need reformation.

Good submission about developing an alternative to the IPPIS. But saying that autonomy does not make sense is wrong. If universities do not have autonomy, there would be undue interference and several protocols will be broken to the detriment of the academic system.

lookingfly:
you've not correlated the how ASUU joining ippis would cause suffering in universities. Why should there be fee hike if ASUU joins ippis?

if university staff joins, it would be easier for politicians to buy public universities like they've been trying to do for decades now. It would also be easier to underfunded the universities even further. If they buy, they become private universities and students will pay like private universities. It's only ASUU that has been resisting the sale of public universities and it's still the elite class of politicians (billionaires) that can afford it. If you look at the tertiary institutions, you will see several projects that are as a result of ASUU struggles over the decades (TETFUND, ETF, NEEDS). Despite this, universities are underfunded, just look at the budget on education over the years.

rottennaija:
A fat lie. Most Nigerian lecturers have multiple full-time jobs. It's just as saying there is no sex for grades in Nigerian Universities.

Multiple part time jobs not full time as implied by many Nigerians. The federal government implied that the academicians have multiple full time jobs in many universities

favouryemmy:



if university staff joins, it would be easier for politicians to buy public universities like they've been trying to do for decades now. It would also be easier to underfunded the universities even further. If they buy, they become private universities and students will pay like private universities. It's only ASUU that has been resisting the sale of public universities and it's still the elite class of politicians (billionaires) that can afford it. If you look at the tertiary institutions, you will see several projects that are as a result of ASUU struggles over the decades (TETFUND, ETF, NEEDS). Despite this, universities are underfunded, just look at the budget on education over the years.

The budget on education is low when compared to other countries however how far had the universities managed their limited resources?

favouryemmy:



if university staff joins, it would be easier for politicians to buy public universities like they've been trying to do for decades now. It would also be easier to underfunded the universities even further. If they buy, they become private universities and students will pay like private universities. It's only ASUU that has been resisting the sale of public universities and it's still the elite class of politicians (billionaires) that can afford it. If you look at the tertiary institutions, you will see several projects that are as a result of ASUU struggles over the decades (TETFUND, ETF, NEEDS). Despite this, universities are underfunded, just look at the budget on education over the years.

pls explain what you mean by politicians would easily buy federal/public universities or may be you think these universities are loafs of bread that can be bought easily? Also, tell us how ASUU has been resisting sale of federal universities? I commend ASUU for their efforts but pls tell us the outcome of the last money given to ASUU by the gej administration with proof pls, no hear say ok?it's true universities are underfunded but we all know ASUU are only fighting for their pockets.

lookingfly:
pls explain what you mean by politicians would easily buy federal/public universities or may be you think these universities are loafs of bread that can be bought easily? Also, tell us how ASUU has been resisting sale of federal universities? I commend ASUU for their efforts but pls tell us the outcome of the last money given to ASUU by the gej administration with proof pls, no hear say ok?it's true universities are underfunded but we all know ASUU are only fighting for their pockets.

Don't worry yourself. This man cannot answer your question, his position cannot be defended.

I gave up when I read; "it would also be easier to *underfunded*..."

IPPIS would even create more lecturing jobs for young guys with M.Sc and PhD in view, it would stop "one prof., 7 jobs syndrome"

Arizonaguy:
They do hold multiple employment which is why they are grossly ineffective
it's against work ethics in any organisation inclusive of university to do part time jobs at the same time being fully employed
They have sabbaticals, they can work as visiting academicians then
These are one of those things that are damaging our education system
it's not obtainable in saner climes...Those lecturers are damn too corrupt

People just come online and emit ignorance confidently...

Bros, Sabbatical and adjunct lecturing is a valid global culture in the academic environment. The FG will take a million years to deny ASUU of their rights..

Moreover, sabbaticals only happens once every 7 years... So what's the fuss.

Permit me to lend my voice to this raging highly sensitive issue. I support the FG a 100% and I believe FG has the support of Parents, Students and every same general populace.

ASUU has a right to demand the full implementation of the agreement it signed with the FG but let is be sincere here. There has been no significant improvement in quality of training and products from these moribund universities from time immemorial. The Universities we have here consistently teach bunch of archaic, anachronistic and outdated syllabuses that entirely belongs to the garbage. Pumping money into the Universities will definitely not solve the problem. We need new sets of Academia who are well trained who can bring up Students in new, modern, practical and result oriented trainings that brings self sufficiency and requisite skill sets global and corporate relevance for national development.

Secondly, it is no longer news that ASUU has made herself a god in the Universities answerable to no body but itself. They engage in lots of malpractices and sharp practices by allegedly drastically denying many non-teaching staff of their full budgets and entitlements or arbitrarily deducting from other staffs PayChecks,
and diverting all the money on itself, they approve huge part of university allocations and IGR to themselves for all sorts of training and travelling expenses, they use their connections to hold unto multiple full time jobs from FG Universities while at times taking full salaries as contract staffs even when they should have long retired. They allocate vacant jobs for their children years before their children finish school. They are Doctors who divert patients from University Teaching Hospitals(their primary work place) between 10 to 12 to return to their private practices between 3 to 4 and then few weeks to exams go to class to drop huge notes so students to read and fail. Many of them especially the aged ones will give post graduates students to mark scripts, coordinate projects, award scores and attend defence while they travel around the world for fruitless and unproductive conferences, training on simple laboratory practices in Malaysia, laboratory practices that can be easily done here in Nigeria provided the University councils dominated by ASUU members judiciously use resources well.

We need complete overhaul of these Universities as many of them have outgrown their usefulness. Upon all the millions pumped into them, hardly had we recorded a meaningful research, discoveries, inventions. Even their Agriculture dept cannot boast of providing food for their environment let alone state, neither can the Universities boast of self sufficiency in power generation. Neither can their Engineering Department boast of a machine whose raw materials are completely locally sourced that can do a simple job for national benefits and sustainability. They are all in it for the money not the passion thanks to the bad government in Nigeria and serious underfunding in the sector.

I want FG to stand its ground on this matter. FG should recruit more qualified and capable hands into the universities not archaic and old folks who adds no value to the system besides doing junk unionism, embarking on wicked strikes and fighting sexual molestation and predatorial laws in higher institutions of learning.

All these their defense of sabbatical and adjunct shit happening in 7 years memory verses are laughable and feeble defenses like we all don't really know what they do. They are fighting for themselves and their greedy pockets not for the Students. There is no difference between them and the corrupt politicians.