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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Tobichimezie: 5:39am On Oct 31, 2019
Kpoikpoi:
Owo uneghe shut up go back to your spare parts shop.
Stupid illiterate Aba trader.
Look at these useless braindead impostor, talk too much now and I'll come and book appointment with your mother for some panel beating tonight grin
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by awgumayor: 6:17am On Oct 31, 2019
Tobichimezie:
Let no Igbo be fooled here at the shameless im.beciles with no fu.ccking life who literally claim to be from the "South South"...This set of shameless idiots mostly come from a particular tribe, proliferating these site with alternate monikers (most of them have as many as 6 different accounts registered on NL) they live, sleep, wake up, eat, drink, sh*t and function only on Nairaland... they are the irreparabl failures with the most damaged psyche any human could have. The "We the South South" crew that will even argue with you a South South son of the soil of Igbo stock that you are not Igbo... imagine how preposterous it is when someone from another side of the divide, comes here and tells you- a profound and unapologetic Igbo man from Rivers or Delta state that you're not Igbo because of some trash they read on the internet... like WTF? me I don't even waste my precious time arguing my Igboness with some yoruba dirty idiot claiming South South... it's pointless as it feeds into the needlessness of such argument in the first place.
If igbos in Rivers and Delta states did not challenge them time will come when they will become immigrants in those states.

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by jude79(m): 8:26am On Oct 31, 2019
Area4Area:
What he was saying flew over you, he's only saying that Igbos would now be foreigners in Nigeria.

You'd now need a passport and visa to enter Nigeria( PH, Uyo, Yenagoa, Warri, Calabar etc are all Nigeria) and Biafra would be surrounded by Nigeria.

Since you'd be surrounded by Nigeria, import and export to and from Biafra now depends on the goodwill of Nigeria. Entry of Biafrans into Nigeria and their movement would be strictly controlled by Nigeria

Nigeria would veto Biafra's entry into ECOWAS and Biafrans in these countries would be made to go get their papers and visas.

Nigeria could decide to close her border with Biafra(Benin and Niger reps comes to mind).

These are some of the the things the man was trying to say, remember that these are existing Nigerian laws, Nigeria isn't creating a new law to spite or punish Biafrans, just extending same laws to them since they're now foreigners.

Alien land act would be extended to Biafrans and all their properties all over Nigeria would be seized.

That Igbos don't feel it now is because they are still Nigerian citizens.


same applies to nigerians in biafra. it's no big deal, confident people are not afraid of Independence.

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Limitless72(m): 9:37am On Oct 31, 2019
Area4Area:
Igbos online have been preaching hate as perpetuated by Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB, even Igbos who disagree with them are not left out from the hate.
You sow hate and you reap hatred. You could dislike someone but you don't go about calling the person all sorts of names even to his hearing, that is pure hatred.
Karma is at play for now though I'm not in support for such


Whatever you call hate by the igbos was first played by the north and the Nigerian government...
The level of marginalization .....
What were you expecting before?
Give them those things that make them yarn for secession and see if the would clamour for it again...

Let restructure this country
Let every region control their resource ..
and see if they would want a different country...
The resistance and jettison of the north in the bid and idea of restructuring is what making the Igbos look at them as PARASITE. As people who can't stand on their own....

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Nobody: 11:09am On Oct 31, 2019
Why the sudden talking of unity a priority from every Nigerian politician

I thought they said Igbos are miscreants

Are they now taking the miscreants serious?

The cabals has ran to RUSHIA to acquire arms in the name of fighting bokoharams as they told their papers to write but we in ipob knows they are preparing for Biafra secession

THEY HAVE RAN TO SAUDI ARABIA FROM THERE UK

AND I ASK THOSE WHOSE ASKING KANU TO COME HOME AND SEEK BIAFRA...DID THE CABALS SIT IN ASOROCK AND BEG PUTIN, SAUDI KING AND SOON UK FOR HELP?
THE ANSWER IS NO

KANU IS MAKING DIPLOMATIC MOVES THATS MAKING THE CABALS RUNNING AROUND FOR HELP
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Taba21: 11:33am On Oct 31, 2019
kotv:


No actual ND use that image you just posted. That was made by the media to represent militants incase you weren't aware for your next pretense.

Do yourself a favor and stop pretending to be from SS. We can tell who is actual from ND. It's easy and even the blind can see you aren't. Got confirmed by checking. No actual SS will make comments as this. Be smart and use a different handle when next you make your religious and terrorist thoughts.

Keep on deceiving yourself on my own issue sooner your eyes will clear.
For your information I posted that picture mainly because of people like you encroaching near my territory to be prepare.
If you know you know.

Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 11:41am On Oct 31, 2019
jude79:



same applies to nigerians in biafra. it's no big deal, confident people are not afraid of Independence.
Put the population and properties in the argument and see who loses more, Nigeria has her coast and can easily trade but Biafra would have to depend on her agreement with Nigeria before trading occurs because Nigeria would surround her, .
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 8:39am On Nov 01, 2019
gidgiddy:


Let me tell you something you may not know. Theres a big difference between being landlocked and having access to the sea. Both are not the same thing. London is a landlocked city but London handles majority of British shipping. That's because London has waterways that lead from it to ocean such the River Thames and the River Lea. London has several River ports and many barges.

Technology has gone far. Gone are the days when you need a big wharf by the ocean before you can import or export. All you need now are water ways and barges or crane mounted barges. Crane mounted barges can go out to sea, meet a coastliner, discharge or receive goods or containers and return to an inland River port without need for a wharf. One barge can carry hundreds of containers.

A River port can be built in Oguta in Imo or Obuaku in Abia, both Oguta and Obuaku both have tributaries that run from them to the Ocean. Onitsha in Anambra already has a River port

The SE might be landlocked, but it definitely has access to the Sea.

However, Igbo land exceeds the so called SE
If u are Igbo, u are too intelligent to be this petty.

I advise u to stop this Biafra movement its born out of ignorance, if all u posted here is what u are banking on on sea access you will be highly disappointed. Like u said technology has really gone far, instead of wasting your time why don't u use Google maps to confirm your claims.

Its easier for a train or even a road to travel from oguta lake to Onitsha port than a boat talk more of a barge. oguta lake is very narrow and instead of flowing from Onitsha it dies a c turn through Igbo hinterlands far away from Onitsha. Some very narrow.

Everything Area4area is saying is the undiluted truth not fantasy.

Most of u arguing here are arguing fantasy not facts

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 8:44am On Nov 01, 2019
amuwo1980:


You had to read it twice and go home and reflected on it before it slammed home, you are as useless as they come, that's why the country is the poverty capital of the world, the black race spits you out, you and ur type have held 200million ppl in poverty and disease and want.
Let's see as your sought after war will pan out.
Dog
When u have nothing reasonable to say u divert to insults. All my Biafran debate days anytime I try to tell my people the truth they divert to insults and start telling u. That u were born yesterday so they don't want to hear.

This trouble u all are yearning for won't bring Igbo land down, only u guys would go down, if it means 20million going down to stop Biafra's invasion of Igbo mentality to advancement in this Nigerian so be it

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 8:45am On Nov 01, 2019
RTSC:

Given the massive lose in quality human capital and the patriotic zeal for survival on the biafran side, my money would be on biafrans expanding their territory in 10-15 years just like isreal did in the middle east.
All these things are delusions and fantasies o.

U better wake up o grin

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 8:47am On Nov 01, 2019
Area4Area:
I'll sell you in Onitsha dear, I did my internship in Enugu and relocated to this great city.
If u are Igbo I would like us to be friends in real life. Igbo's like us are few to come across, we need to form a front and drive away the secession mentality from our people permanently.

I believe with the right devices we will defeat Nnamdi KANU, ipob and any future organization or devices

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 8:53am On Nov 01, 2019
Malawian:
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With an Independent Biafra, those waterways becomes "international Waters"
Seriously stop deluding yourself.

Even if u sign a deal with America or the UN for the waters to be international as far as its Nigerian territory and all the things u lots have said about Nigeria via instults to Nigerian leaders, eg Buhari. Nigeria would make sure they frustrate your efforts. I repeat FRUSTRATE your efforts.

They can withdraw navy or any form of security from the water ways its going to be biafran merchants in the hostile Niger Delta waters vs militants, kidnappers and pirates.

Chances of any tangible export or import reaching or leaving Biafra would be very slim.

Our economy would be Frustrated then our people would start digging holes under ground trying to cross border into Nigeria for a better life, like what happen between USA and Mexico.

That time una eye go clear

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 9:01am On Nov 01, 2019
gidgiddy:


Not really. International law says that when a country is in entitled to a sea corridor if it is within 60 nautical miles of the sea. I know for a fact that parts of Imo and Bia are less than 20 nautical miles from the sea.

In the event that Biafra is declared, Nigeria is bound by Article 125 of the United Nation Convention On Laws Of The Sea(UNCLOS) to provide Biafra with a Sea corridor to move goods and humans. This is international law which if Nigeria breaks, Biafra will not only have the right to take Nigeria to court, Biafra will also have the to apply to the United Nation to place sanctions on Nigeria for breaking international law.
LoL... With all these laws yet Nigeria still dae like this. U know Africa never respects laws.

Even if the UN pressures Nigeria. Nigeria can still frustrate us, look at whats happening at the second Niger bridge, they had to sanfill most of the Niger. Nigerian government would just say they want to build a new bridge since the ones they have is in Biafra, then construct in halfway blocking and reasonable movement along the river Niger then abandon the project for lack of funds.

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 9:03am On Nov 01, 2019
Area4Area:
I decided not to reply him because I've educated him on this topic on maritime and sea sovereignty but he prefers to repeat the lies as if it will become the truth with time
These are the lies they have told people in the villages and those people are banking on it, how would someone be banking on something that is bound to fail.

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 9:06am On Nov 01, 2019
Tobichimezie:

I can count 20 so called landlocked countries right now off the top of my head that are far far far better than your Nigeria, don't even outdo yourself by sounding ignorant.
If not for corruption, the military coups and the PDP those people by now would be begging for Nigerian visa.

What if Nigeria finally gets it right and by that time Biafra is gone, then all these people start queuing for Nigerian visa. Think Man.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by gidgiddy: 9:07am On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:

If u are Igbo, u are too intelligent to be this petty.

I advise u to stop this Biafra movement its born out of ignorance, if all u posted here is what u are banking on on sea access you will be highly disappointed. Like u said technology has really gone far, instead of wasting your time why don't u use Google maps to confirm your claims.

Its easier for a train or even a road to travel from oguta lake to Onitsha port than a boat talk more of a barge. oguta lake is very narrow and instead of flowing from Onitsha it dies a c turn through Igbo hinterlands far away from Onitsha. Some very narrow.

Everything Area4area is saying is the undiluted truth not fantasy.

Most of u arguing here are arguing fantasy not facts

You dont even know the picture you posted. You put a picture of the River Niger without putting the water ways of Oguta or Obuaku.

Having a coastline does not make a country. There are over 40 landlocked countries on earth, they would not exist if it was all about having a shoreline.

Barge technology has gone far to the extent that River ports are fast replacing the more expensive sea ports.

Shoreline should never be the reason why people who want their independence should quit. All the shoreline Nigeria had has only led to it being the porverty capital of the world while a small landlocked country of just 8 million people like Switzerland is the 13 richest country and makes more in invisible exports like banking and financial services than Nigeria makes in oil sales.

Those who are still thinking about shoreline and big population are still thinking small and Igbos dont think small

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 9:20am On Nov 01, 2019
gidgiddy:


You dont even know the picture you posted. You put a picture of the River Niger without putting the water ways of Oguta or Obuaku.

Having a coastline does not make a country. There are over 40 landlocked countries on earth, they would not exist if it was all about having a shoreline.

Barge technology has gone far to the extent that River ports are fast replacing the more expensive sea ports.

Shoreline should never be the reason why people who want their independence should quit. All the shoreline Nigeria had has only led to it being the porverty capital of the world while a small landlocked country of just 8 million people like Switzerland is the 13 richest country and makes more in invisible exports like banking and financial services than Nigeria makes in oil sales.

Those who are still thinking about shoreline and big population are still thinking small and Igbos dont think small
Why do you want your independence I would like to know
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 9:32am On Nov 01, 2019
Taba21:


They felt inferior can't do anything without us imaging no single tribe, I repeat no single tribe will help this evil peoples in Niger Delta in case of war this time. Because they like boosting about war and I will advise them to remains laylow and quite for their proximity because they hated by majority Nigerian cause of their ruthless life.
We no come here come talk nonsense and foolishness abeg. Carry your mumu go some where else
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 9:32am On Nov 01, 2019
Taba21:


Your last words spoil everything.
You can't eat your cake and have it the Igbo's people will remains under even a 5th class citizens of Nigeria until they realized that if you want or live in a glass house don't throw stone.
The evil against the Nigerian people today for wealth and powers are initiated by them and how far?
Why I guess your are the 6th class citizen
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 9:35am On Nov 01, 2019
IGBOSON1:


You frightened, parasitic and bigoted 'one Nigeria' schmucks haven't even convinced yourselves on the viability and sustainability of your shithole, never mind trying to do the impossible of truncating the Biafran dream!

'Biafra is all noise', yet you and your sad ilk have been on this thread for days banging your head on the wall and insisting a potential Biafra would be 'landlocked' and frustrated by 'one Nigeria'! Is this the response one gives to something they see as 'inconsequential'?

Fact of the matter is Biafra scares the shi't out of you evil lot, and your hope is that if peradventure it becomes a reality, that it would comprise of just 'your 5 south-east states' and would be hemmed in and surrounded by a hostile Nigeria! How you managed to convince your deluded self that the likes of Annang/Ibibio/Efik, Ijaw, Ogoni, Opobo, Bonny, etc would be a party to your diabolical plans of trying to frustrate Biafra shows just how detached from reality you are!

If you believed yourselves you would long have agreed to a referendum for just the south-east states instead of sending down truckloads of red-eyed Fulani soldiers in the name of python dance to shoot at innocent agitators!
I have no problem with Biafra as far as IMO state is not going with it. If the 4eastern states want to go Goodluck
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 9:45am On Nov 01, 2019
Limitless72:



Whatever you call hate by the igbos was first played by the north and the Nigerian government...
The level of marginalization .....
What were you expecting before?
Give them those things that make them yarn for secession and see if the would clamour for it again...

Let restructure this country
Let every region control their resource ..
and see if they would want a different country...
The resistance and jettison of the north in the bid and idea of restructuring is what making the Igbos look at them as PARASITE. As people who can't stand on their own....
LoL... If everyone control's there's resources south east go suffer o
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 9:46am On Nov 01, 2019
ezenwajosh:
Why the sudden talking of unity a priority from every Nigerian politician

I thought they said Igbos are miscreants

Are they now taking the miscreants serious?

The cabals has ran to RUSHIA to acquire arms in the name of fighting bokoharams as they told their papers to write but we in ipob knows they are preparing for Biafra secession

THEY HAVE RAN TO SAUDI ARABIA FROM THERE UK

AND I ASK THOSE WHOSE ASKING KANU TO COME HOME AND SEEK BIAFRA...DID THE CABALS SIT IN ASOROCK AND BEG PUTIN, SAUDI KING AND SOON UK FOR HELP?
THE ANSWER IS NO

KANU IS MAKING DIPLOMATIC MOVES THATS MAKING THE CABALS RUNNING AROUND FOR HELP

LoL... The wayo no go ever stop
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by gidgiddy: 10:25am On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:

Why do you want your independence I would like to know

Would you have asked Zik the same question when he and others were fighting for Nigerias independence from Britain? No because you would have thought it's their right to get independence

The same goes for the Biafran

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Taba21: 11:50am On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:

Why I guess your are the 6th class citizen

Open your eyes and vanished

Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Taba21: 11:53am On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:

We no come here come talk nonsense and foolishness abeg. Carry your mumu go some where else


A begger your eyes will soon clear.
I can buy your entire region you bastard what are you doing here
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Limitless72(m): 3:52pm On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:
LoL... If everyone control's there's resources south east go suffer o



Now I know you know nothing about economics.... Nah illiterate I dey follow talk No quote me again !!
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 4:04pm On Nov 01, 2019
Limitless72:





Now I know you know nothing about economics....
Nah illiterate I dey follow talk
No quote me again !!
LoL... Why una hate the truth, once someone says something contrary this your belief or thoughts you get angry.

If u are reasonable debate me to it and prove he wrong.

Southeast land mass is too small for considerable agriculture, compared to other regions.

South eastern oil fields are marginal amongst the 3oil producing regions south east have the lowest reserves.

North has been focusing on oil while solid minerals remain untapped, if regions control there resources north would fall back to its solid minerals.

North still has agricultural land in surplus.

Please tell me the resources you want to control in the resource control?
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Quorax: 4:13pm On Nov 01, 2019
Area4Area:
What he was saying flew over you, he's only saying that Igbos would now be foreigners in Nigeria.

You'd now need a passport and visa to enter Nigeria( PH, Uyo, Yenagoa, Warri, Calabar etc are all Nigeria) and Biafra would be surrounded by Nigeria.

Since you'd be surrounded by Nigeria, import and export to and from Biafra now depends on the goodwill of Nigeria. Entry of Biafrans into Nigeria and their movement would be strictly controlled by Nigeria

Nigeria would veto Biafra's entry into ECOWAS and Biafrans in these countries would be made to go get their papers and visas.

Nigeria could decide to close her border with Biafra(Benin and Niger reps comes to mind).

These are some of the the things the man was trying to say, remember that these are existing Nigerian laws, Nigeria isn't creating a new law to spite or punish Biafrans, just extending same laws to them since they're now foreigners.

Alien land act would be extended to Biafrans and all their properties all over Nigeria would be seized.

That Igbos don't feel it now is because they are still Nigerian citizens.

If igbos leave others will seek theirs too. That is why they do not want igbos to go. Its not that they are afraid of igbos breaking up.. It's just the ripple effect it will have on other regions who will consider leaving..

So this your theory holds no water.

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 4:18pm On Nov 01, 2019
Some Igbo's didn't learn anything from history.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 4:20pm On Nov 01, 2019
Quorax:


If igbos leave others will seek theirs too. That is why they do not want igbos to go. Its not that they are afraid of igbos breaking up.. It's just the ripple effect it will have on other regions who will consider leaving..

So this your theory holds no water.

I am Igbo but if my state can be carved out of Biafra, I can support its secession, but as far as IMO state is being put on that Biafran map, it will never happen.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 4:27pm On Nov 01, 2019
I once supported Biafra but that was before the age of internet, to my Igbo brothers who claim the victim, that there mothers and Fathers only told them Hausa did this and that, try one day and ask your mama and papa telling u about Biafra to tell u what caused it I bet u 70percent don't know. The only part they know is when heads start rolling and people start dieing.

If u want to hear the truth try and listen from both sides don't just listen your own part.

The day I finally learnt the truth and accepted it, it was as if a huge burden left me, I once hated Nigeria, especially the north but after I learnt the truth I have come to love them, so much that people who know me in person even from other tribes censor there arguments about northerners around me cause I will defend them to my very last.

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Limitless72(m): 4:33pm On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:

LoL... Why una hate the truth, once someone says something contrary this your belief or thoughts you get angry.

If u are reasonable debate me to it and prove he wrong.

Southeast land mass is too small for considerable agriculture, compared to other regions.

South eastern oil fields are marginal amongst the 3oil producing regions south east have the lowest reserves.

North has been focusing on oil while solid minerals remain untapped, of regions control there resources north would fall back to its solid minerals.

North still has agricultural land in surplus.

Please tell me the resources you want to control in the resource control?




Do you know Imo and Abia state are amongst the top 10 largest producers of palm oil in Nigeria. As of 1967 before the crude oil boom era palm oil and palm kernel were our major export.. We were number one in the world then...

I don't need to tell you how much money and fortune could be made from this alone.

Imo state, Abia, Anambra has crude oil, Limestone, Gold too....among many others

We have a market for this commodities to thrive...


Anambra state has the highest number of indigenous industries in Nigeria.... Have you also heard of innoson motors.....


Talking about landmass, Lagos state has the least landmass in Nigeria but her IGR is bigger than the whole of the north combine... What of Switzerland, Denmark South Africa, et al. These counties don't have lanmass like the north but can feed the north...


I haven't even talk about Human resources.... We have more literate in the south east than the whole north combined....


Truth be told the NORTH are parasite and holding Nigeria back from moving forward...



I could go on and on

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