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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 4:51pm On Nov 01, 2019
Limitless72:




Do you know Imo and Abia state are amongst the top 10 largest producers of palm oil in Nigeria. As of 1967 before the crude oil boom era palm oil and palm kernel were our major export.. We were number one in the world then...

I don't need to tell you how much money and fortune could be made from this alone.

Imo state, Abia, Anambra has crude oil, Limestone, Gold too....among many others

We have a market for this commodities to thrive...


Anambra state has the highest number of indigenous industries in Nigeria.... Have you also heard of innoson motors.....


Talking about landmass, Lagos state has the least landmass in Nigeria but her IGR is bigger than the whole of the north combine... What of Switzerland, Denmark South Africa, et al. These counties don't have lanmass like the north but can feed the north...


I haven't even talk about Human resources.... We have more literate in the south east than the whole north combined....


Truth be told the NORTH are parasite and holding Nigeria back from moving forward...



I could go on and on
Stop giving me fantasy give me proof. Show me links where IMO state and abia became Nigerias leading producer of palm then show me who is stopping IMO state or abia from producing the palm right now plus I want u to give me a break down of world palm oil exports and its market value.

Give me facts not fantasy tell me where Gold was discovered in the east.

You have more literates in the southeast than the whole north combined LoL. Another fantasy

South Africa is bigger than northern Nigeria in land mass.

The reason why Switzerland economy booms is its strategic location plus its a banking hub, Biafra is neither in a strategic location nor a banking hub. Tell me another story.

Lagos state is strategically located plus the boost in development it got as the former capital territory.

U think right now with al the indigenous industries and the Nigerian market anambra state igr is not in top 5 do u think when Biafra comes and the market is gone things will get better or worst?

All your points prove to me that u guys are just fantasizing

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Limitless72(m): 5:24pm On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:

Stop giving me fantasy give me proof. Show me links where IMO state and abia became Nigerias leading producer of palm then show me who is stopping IMO state or abia from producing the palm right now plus I want u to give me a break down of world palm oil exports and its market value.

Give me facts not fantasy tell me where Gold was discovered in the east.

You have more literates in the southeast than the whole north combined LoL. Another fantasy

South Africa is bigger than northern Nigeria in land mass.

The reason why Switzerland economy booms is its strategic location plus its a banking hub, Biafra is neither in a strategic location nor a banking hub. Tell me another story.

Lagos state is strategically located plus the boost in development it got as the former capital territory.

U think right now with al the indigenous industries and the Nigerian market anambra state igr is not in top 5 do u think when Biafra comes and the market is gone things will get better or worst?

All your points prove to me that u guys are just fantasizing



Show me where I said Imo and abia states leads in Nigeria palm oil production?

From your reply it shows you aren't intelligent at all...

So shouldn't quote me again. Channel your energy on something else..... leave Biafra and Nigeria alone

PS: I don't support the Biafra idea.. But when you make it look like the igbos would suffer if Nigeria disintegrates, that when my expression comes in...

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 5:54pm On Nov 01, 2019
Limitless72:




Show me where I said Imo and abia states leads in Nigeria palm oil production?

From your reply it shows you aren't intelligent at all...

So shouldn't quote me again. Channel your energy on something else..... leave Biafra and Nigeria alone

PS: I don't support the Biafra idea.. But when you make it look like the igbos would suffer if Nigeria disintegrates, that when my expression comes in...
Pick a side bro and be all in, its either you are for Nigeria or you are for Biafra. As for the Old man who spoke about this title our reply is, he should continue dreaming cause his thoughts will never come to past
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Quorax: 6:00pm On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:


I am Igbo but if my state can be carved out of Biafra, I can support its secession, but as far as IMO state is being put on that Biafran map, it will never happen.
nope... The approach has to be changed. The current one will not make it possible for a long while.

What other guys are saying is the truth. You have collaborate with others to achieve what you want.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by paj4love: 6:00pm On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:

Stop giving me fantasy give me proof. Show me links where IMO state and abia became Nigerias leading producer of palm then show me who is stopping IMO state or abia from producing the palm right now plus I want u to give me a break down of world palm oil exports and its market value.

Give me facts not fantasy tell me where Gold was discovered in the east.

You have more literates in the southeast than the whole north combined LoL. Another fantasy

South Africa is bigger than northern Nigeria in land mass.

The reason why Switzerland economy booms is its strategic location plus its a banking hub, Biafra is neither in a strategic location nor a banking hub. Tell me another story.

Lagos state is strategically located plus the boost in development it got as the former capital territory.

U think right now with al the indigenous industries and the Nigerian market anambra state igr is not in top 5 do u think when Biafra comes and the market is gone things will get better or worst?

All your points prove to me that u guys are just fantasizing

Have you had of Adapalm plantation in Ohaji/Egema Local Government Area of IMO State. Please google it. It's one of the biggest palm plantation in West Africa. That alone can transform the fortune of IMO state if put in good use. You guys should try to read about a place before making silly judgement or better still travel around and have first hand experience or information before concluding
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Quorax: 6:13pm On Nov 01, 2019
Area4Area:
@the first bolded, Biafra would not have any access without any agreement with Nigeria so that Nigeria can slam her imports and exports with whatever tariffs Nigeria deems fit, Biafra would take it or leave it. Nigeria may decide that Biafra can only use her seaports so that her goods going in or out would be inspected at any of her seaports Biafra would be using.

@the second, truly no need talking about Niger republic who may have agreements with other countries unlike Biafra that must have that AGREEMENT with Nigeria only because it would be an enclave within Nigeria.

Let me tell you again. Stop dreaming. The moment igbos break out, others will too. So this your definition or existence of"Nigeria" post Biafra realization is a mirage

South South will go, middle belt, as they had previously warned will go. Maybe South West and North West and North East will marry themselves then.

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 6:26pm On Nov 01, 2019
paj4love:


Have you had of Adapalm plantation in Ohaji/Egema Local Government Area of IMO State. Please google it. It's one of the biggest palm plantation in West Africa. That alone can transform the fortune of IMO state if put in good use. You guys should try to read about a place before making silly judgement or better still travel around and have first hand experience or information before concluding
Its in IMO and nothing much comes out of it, so u think when Biafra comes it would transform over night? I am from IMO so what are u saying
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 6:29pm On Nov 01, 2019
Quorax:
nope... The approach has to be changed. The current one will not make it possible for a long while.

What other guys are saying is the truth. You have collaborate with others to achieve what you want.
I don't want to be in Biafra. But a lot of u keep annoying everybody. I am afraid of the repercussions and I dong want me or my people to be associated with it when it comes
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Quorax: 6:37pm On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:

I don't want to be in Biafra. But a lot of u keep annoying everybody. I am afraid of the repercussions and I dong want me or my people to be associated with it when it comes
Read again. I said approach is wrong
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 6:39pm On Nov 01, 2019
Quorax:

Read again. I said approach is wrong
I am happy your eyes are beginning to open
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by paj4love: 6:42pm On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:

Its in IMO and nothing much comes out of it, so u think when Biafra comes it would transform over night? I am from IMO so what are u saying

Oga what am saying is there are numerous untapped resources in SE that can put us on world map if we were have the right leadership.

Palm oil is one of such, If Adapalm is given the right attention, build an oil refinery as planned inside the plantation, don't you think the fortune of the state will change for good with what palm oil is sold In the international market?

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Coldie(m): 6:44pm On Nov 01, 2019
paj4love:


Oga what am saying is there are numerous untapped resources in SE that can put us on world map if we were have the right leadership.

Palm oil is one of such, If Adapalm is given the right attention, build an oil refinery as planned inside the plantation, don't you think the fortune of the state will change for good with what palm oil is sold In the international market
What is stopping u from doing all these things?

Or is the north dragging ada palm with you?

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by paj4love: 6:55pm On Nov 01, 2019
Coldie:

What is stopping u from doing all these things?

Or is the north dragging ada palm with you?

No sir, what we are saying is let us control our destiny, let us choose where to belong to, let us have a level playing ground so that all region can develop at their own pace,
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by wirinet(m): 8:26am On Nov 02, 2019
Coldie:

LoL... With all these laws yet Nigeria still dae like this. U know Africa never respects laws.

Even if the UN pressures Nigeria. Nigeria can still frustrate us, look at whats happening at the second Niger bridge, they had to sanfill most of the Niger. Nigerian government would just say they want to build a new bridge since the ones they have is in Biafra, then construct in halfway blocking and reasonable movement along the river Niger then abandon the project for lack of funds.
Sense will not kill you. What happens if Nigeria dams the river in lokoja or even Benue? Where will the south east (and the Niger Delta incidentally) get enough water flow for navigation to the Atlantic? Or they think the UN can stop Nigeria from damming it's rivers. To stop other nations along the River Niger from damming the river, Nigeria had to promise to give these countries electricity.

What IPOB and it's followers have failed to realize is that Biafra cannot survive if they have a hostile relationship with Nigeria.

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by wirinet(m): 8:36am On Nov 02, 2019
Coldie:

If u are Igbo I would like us to be friends in real life. Igbo's like us are few to come across, we need to form a front and drive away the secession mentality from our people permanently.

I believe with the right devices we will defeat Nnamdi KANU, ipob and any future organization or devices
My brother, it's surprising o. I don't understand how igbos, despite their disadvantages in the political and power equation are doing very well in the the business and economic sphere. They have Nigeria and the whole of West Africa at their feet. They instead prefer to carve a tiny portion of it and lose the whole sub continent, just because of Hatred for Fulani and Yoruba and bragging rights to be called president.
As we speak, hard working igbo men and women are investing billions of dollars in the west and North, and some failed youth or someone who ran to another country due to failure in Nigeria is screaming seccession.

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Malawian(m): 9:14am On Nov 02, 2019
Coldie:

Seriously stop deluding yourself.

Even if u sign a deal with America or the UN for the waters to be international as far as its Nigerian territory and all the things u lots have said about Nigeria via instults to Nigerian leaders, eg Buhari. Nigeria would make sure they frustrate your efforts. I repeat FRUSTRATE your efforts.

They can withdraw navy or any form of security from the water ways its going to be biafran merchants in the hostile Niger Delta waters vs militants, kidnappers and pirates.

Chances of any tangible export or import reaching or leaving Biafra would be very slim.

Our economy would be Frustrated then our people would start digging holes under ground trying to cross border into Nigeria for a better life, like what happen between USA and Mexico.

That time una eye go clear
Even if you "block" the waterways, (which is impossible anyways), will you also prevent planes from landing and taking off in Biafra? You receive goods all the time from DHL, how do they do it? So your Nigeria wont be bothered about how to make their Nigeria work? they will be more invested in how to make sure Biafra don't work. See una life?

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by gidgiddy: 9:32am On Nov 02, 2019
wirinet:

Senseless will not kill you. What happens if Nigeria dams the river in lokoja or even Benue? Where will the south east (and the Niger Delta incidentally) get enough water flow for navigation to the Atlantic? Or they think the UN can stop Nigeria from damming it's rivers. To stop other nations along the River Niger from damming the river, Nigeria had to promise to give these countries electricity.

What IPOB and it's followers have failed to realize is that Biafra cannot survive if they have a hostile relationship with Nigeria.

This River Niger you are talking about, do you think it originates? Are you aware that it flows through several countries before getting to Nigeria? What if all those countries decide to dam their part of the River Niger?

The answer is that no matter how high of a dam anyone builds, the mighty River Niger will still flow. No man has power to stop the River from flowing
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 10:49am On Nov 02, 2019
Coldie:

If u are Igbo, u are too intelligent to be this petty.

I advise u to stop this Biafra movement its born out of ignorance, if all u posted here is what u are banking on on sea access you will be highly disappointed. Like u said technology has really gone far, instead of wasting your time why don't u use Google maps to confirm your claims.

Its easier for a train or even a road to travel from oguta lake to Onitsha port than a boat talk more of a barge. oguta lake is very narrow and instead of flowing from Onitsha it dies a c turn through Igbo hinterlands far away from Onitsha. Some very narrow.

Everything Area4area is saying is the undiluted truth not fantasy.

Most of u arguing here are arguing fantasy not facts
Just leave them to continue deluding themselves in their phantom fantasies, they think Biafra would become Dubai, Singapore, Japan etc all in one and in a month of independence.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 10:54am On Nov 02, 2019
Coldie:

If u are Igbo I would like us to be friends in real life. Igbo's like us are few to come across, we need to form a front and drive away the secession mentality from our people permanently.

I believe with the right devices we will defeat Nnamdi KANU, ipob and any future organization or devices
I'm Igbo bro and from Awka but living in Onitsha, our people have been so taken by the lies and propaganda of Kanu and IPOB,
We remembered when he and IPOB sold them the lie that IPOB has weapons to fight Nigeria and they believed, imagine some believing in an imaginary Biafran pound with nothing to back its value etc.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 11:00am On Nov 02, 2019
gidgiddy:


You dont even know the picture you posted. You put a picture of the River Niger without putting the water ways of Oguta or Obuaku.

Having a coastline does not make a country. There are over 40 landlocked countries on earth, they would not exist if it was all about having a shoreline.

Barge technology has gone far to the extent that River ports are fast replacing the more expensive sea ports.

Shoreline should never be the reason why people who want their independence should quit. All the shoreline Nigeria had has only led to it being the porverty capital of the world while a small landlocked country of just 8 million people like Switzerland is the 13 richest country and makes more in invisible exports like banking and financial services than Nigeria makes in oil sales.

Those who are still thinking about shoreline and big population are still thinking small and Igbos dont think small
Mr man, if and if your boat or ship gets to sea, are you still in Biafran or Nigerian waters, can Cameroon or the US or even Russia, can their ships get into Nigerian waters off the Nigerian coast without any prior information to Nigeria?
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 11:05am On Nov 02, 2019
Quorax:


If igbos leave others will seek theirs too. That is why they do not want igbos to go. Its not that they are afraid of igbos breaking up.. It's just the ripple effect it will have on other regions who will consider leaving..

So this your theory holds no water.
How are you sure others would leave if the Igbos leave, did they tell you that or maybe you've conducted a referendum for them to know who's going and who's staying behind
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 11:13am On Nov 02, 2019
Limitless72:




Do you know Imo and Abia state are amongst the top 10 largest producers of palm oil in Nigeria. As of 1967 before the crude oil boom era palm oil and palm kernel were our major export.. We were number one in the world then...

I don't need to tell you how much money and fortune could be made from this alone.

Imo state, Abia, Anambra has crude oil, Limestone, Gold too....among many others

We have a market for this commodities to thrive...


Anambra state has the highest number of indigenous industries in Nigeria.... Have you also heard of innoson motors.....


Talking about landmass, Lagos state has the least landmass in Nigeria but her IGR is bigger than the whole of the north combine... What of Switzerland, Denmark South Africa, et al. These counties don't have lanmass like the north but can feed the north...


I haven't even talk about Human resources.... We have more literate in the south east than the whole north combined....


Truth be told the NORTH are parasite and holding Nigeria back from moving forward...



I could go on and on
Northerners are parasites as you said but when they gave Igbos only a quit notice to leave the north, who went begging them to rescind and were shouting genocide everywhere, the Igbos.

For you to trade with the world, don't you think you need an access to them or maybe you think an exporter in Aba would just blink his eyes and gbam, he finds himself and his goods in Dubai, India etc to go distribute to his customers.
An Onitsha importer would be in China, after purchasing his stuff, he blinks his eyes and he's in main market
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 11:16am On Nov 02, 2019
Limitless72:




Show me where I said Imo and abia states leads in Nigeria palm oil production?

From your reply it shows you aren't intelligent at all...

So shouldn't quote me again. Channel your energy on something else..... leave Biafra and Nigeria alone

PS: I don't support the Biafra idea.. But when you make it look like the igbos would suffer if Nigeria disintegrates, that when my expression comes in...
You are the one to leave Nigeria and Biafra alone because it's obvious you really don't know the intricacies.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 11:18am On Nov 02, 2019
Quorax:


Let me tell you again. Stop dreaming. The moment igbos break out, others will too. So this your definition or existence of"Nigeria" post Biafra realization is a mirage

South South will go, middle belt, as they had previously warned will go. Maybe South West and North West and North East will marry themselves then.

....as in they told you so but they are waiting for the Igbos to go first? Fantasies upon fantasies
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 11:22am On Nov 02, 2019
wirinet:

Senseless will not kill you. What happens if Nigeria dams the river in lokoja or even Benue? Where will the south east (and the Niger Delta incidentally) get enough water flow for navigation to the Atlantic? Or they think the UN can stop Nigeria from damming it's rivers. To stop other nations along the River Niger from damming the river, Nigeria had to promise to give these countries electricity.

What IPOB and it's followers have failed to realize is that Biafra cannot survive if they have a hostile relationship with Nigeria.
Exactly what we've been telling them, fact is that most of them don't even know about all these maybe the 0.001% that know would rather conceal the truth from others
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 11:27am On Nov 02, 2019
Malawian:

Even if you "block" the waterways, (which is impossible anyways), will you also prevent planes from landing and taking off in Biafra? You receive goods all the time from DHL, how do they do it? So your Nigeria wont be bothered about how to make their Nigeria work? they will be more invested in how to make sure Biafra don't work. See una life?
Here we go again, so you don't know that you don't trespass the airspace of any country without any permission, Nigerian education is indeed something else. I guess Biafra would be importing and exporting by air too.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 11:29am On Nov 02, 2019
gidgiddy:


This River Niger you are talking about, do you think it originates? Are you aware that it flows through several countries before getting to Nigeria? What if all those countries decide to dam their part of the River Niger?

The answer is that no matter how high of a dam anyone builds, the mighty River Niger will still flow. No man has power to stop the River from flowing
You've been educated by many people on this Biafra thing and you still feel everything will flow with your fantasies, go and rest bro.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by wowcatty: 11:34am On Nov 02, 2019
No nation in Nigeria will suffer when Nigeria breaks, everyone will do well, it's just that there will be a mini America, a mini North Korea, a mini Yemen and everything in between. Central African republic is not suffering neither is Zambia, so will Igbos pull their own weight and do just fine for their level and grow at their own pace.

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Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Quorax: 11:38am On Nov 02, 2019
Area4Area:
....as in they told you so but they are waiting for the Igbos to go first? Fantasies upon fantasies
lol. At the height of IPOB agitation, we saw various zones holding meetings in the hope of any eventuality. One notable one was middle belt.

Dream on.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by Area4Area: 12:06pm On Nov 02, 2019
Quorax:
lol. At the height of IPOB agitation, we saw various zones holding meetings in the hope of any eventuality. One notable one was middle belt.

Dream on.
Lol, we dey watch so continue in your fantasies and dreamland.
Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by wirinet(m): 3:06pm On Nov 02, 2019
gidgiddy:


We Finally Know Why Nigeria Sells Electricity To Countries With Better Power Supply


This River Niger you are talking about, do you think it originates? Are you aware that it flows through several countries before getting to Nigeria? What if all those countries decide to dam their part of the River Niger?

The answer is that no matter how high of a dam anyone builds, the mighty River Niger will still flow. No man has power to stop the River from flowing
Do you have comprehension problem or you have learning difficulties? If you dam a river upstream, logic demands that the flow will reduce down stream.
Here is fashola explaining the situation better, maybe you can understand it then


Earlier this week at the Presidency Quarterly Business Forum in Abuja, the Minister of Power, Works and Housing, Babatunde Fashola, explained why our country supplies electricity to places like Niger and Benin Republic - countries that enjoy better power supply than us.

According to the Minister, some of the rivers that sustain our main source of power supply, the Kainji Dam, flow from these countries. So, in exchange for not damming those rivers and preventing them from flowing into Kainji, the countries got, well, mandatory supply of electricity from Nigeria.
https://www.konbini.com/ng/lifestyle/finally-know-nigeria-sells-power-countries-better-power-supply/

Re: Igbo Will Suffer If They Secede —senator Doguwa by amuwo1980: 3:14pm On Nov 02, 2019
Coldie:

When u have nothing reasonable to say u divert to insults. All my Biafran debate days anytime I try to tell my people the truth they divert to insults and start telling u. That u were born yesterday so they don't want to hear.

This trouble u all are yearning for won't bring Igbo land down, only u guys would go down, if it means 20million going down to stop Biafra's invasion of Igbo mentality to advancement in this Nigerian so be it

U need counseling fast.

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