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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by Legendguru: 4:09pm On Nov 10, 2019
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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by naijacentric(m): 4:34pm On Nov 10, 2019
evergreen9:
[b]Arabs have always seen Africans as slaves and sub humans, the unfortunate thing here is that we as Africans have been brainwashed to worship and look up to Arabs as a result of religious indoctrination. The Arabs have NEVER liked Africans even in their religious doctrines this can be seen there!

Africans engage in wars because of doctrines in far away Saudi Arabia! Africans pay millions of dollars yearly as royalty to the Saudi monarchy and the OIC yet their citizens waste away in poverty.

It is a well known fact that the ENTIRE AFRICA used to be predominantly black, however Arabic conquests the first being the invasion of the Maghreb started decimating the African population while replacing them with ARABS, Now Tunisia (formerly CARTHAGE), LIBYA, MOROCCO, ALGERIA AND EGYPT, SUDAN are now all predominantly Arab . A CIA report some years ago showed that Arab governments and monarchs still had desires of pushing their conquest way beyond Sudan as far as to Mali, Chad and Burkina faso. They blind us with religion and attack from behind while we can't see them coming![/b]
but we have black arabs now so what has colour got to do with it even indians have blacks
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by naijacentric(m): 4:36pm On Nov 10, 2019
musicwriter:
Beyond the illusion, note that Britain is on a massive campaign to rebrand themselves after exiting the EU. This includes making you blame others for their global slave trade business against your ancestors and to see them in a good light.

The so called slaves in the Midle East are mostly people stranded there after failure to cross over to Europe. They're not the type of ''slaves'' that made Britain wealthy. They're simply exploited domestic workers. They get paid but Britain never paid one dime to your ancestors, so take your mind off slaves. They control you with words!!

Yes, African ''domestic workers'' are being exploited in the Midle East but that's because your Allah has made you so stupid that you trust an Arab man, instead of heading back home.
God bless dis news is reverse psychology on Africans u sabi am grin
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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by naijapower(m): 4:50pm On Nov 10, 2019
The day black understand the reason while the Africa is in the middle of the world,this kind of rubbish will stop
ContractKiller:
The Apps are known as 4Sale and Haraj and can be downloaded on Apple's app store and Google play.

The use of these apps is widespread across the Middle East, and the BBC Arabic Service Undercover team decided to investigate how users of these apps use them for the buying and selling of black slaves, particularly young women from West Africa.

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Posing as a married couple newly arrived in Kuwait, the BBC Arabic undercover team spoke to 57 app users and visited more than a dozen people who were trying to sell them their domestic worker via a popular commodity app called 4Sale.

The sellers almost all advocated confiscating the women's passports, confining them to the house, denying them any time off and giving them little or no access to a phone.

The 4Sale app allowed you to filter by race, with different price brackets clearly on offer, according to category.

"African worker, clean and smiley," said one listing. Another: "Nepalese who dares to ask for a day off."

When speaking to the sellers, the undercover team frequently heard racist language. "Indians are the dirtiest," said one, describing a woman being advertised.

The team were urged by app users, who acted as if they were the "owners" of these women, to deny them other basic human rights, such as giving them a "day or a minute or a second" off.

One man, a policeman, looking to offload his worker said: "Trust me she's very nice, she laughs and has a smiley face. Even if you keep her up till 5am she won't complain."

He told the BBC team how domestic workers were used as a commodity.

"You will find someone buying a maid for 600 KD ($2,000), and selling her on for 1,000 KD ($3,300)," he said.

He suggested how the BBC team should treat her: "The passport, don't give it to her. You're her sponsor. Why would you give her her passport?"

In one case, the BBC team was offered a 16-year-old girl. It has called her Fatou to protect her real name.

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Fatou had been trafficked from Guinea in West Africa and had been employed as a domestic worker in Kuwait for six months, when the BBC discovered her. Kuwait's laws say that domestic workers must be over 21.

Her seller's sales pitch included the facts that she had given Fatou no time off, her passport and phone had been taken away, and she had not allowed her to leave the house alone - all of which are illegal in Kuwait.

"What they are doing is promoting an online slave market," said Urmila Bhoola, the UN special rapporteur on contemporary forms of slavery.

"If Google, Apple, Facebook or any other companies are hosting apps like these, they have to be held accountable."

After being alerted to the issue, Facebook said it had banned one of the hashtags involved.

Google and Apple said they were working with app developers to prevent illegal activity.

This online slave market is not just happening in Kuwait.

In Saudi Arabia, the investigation found hundreds of women being sold on Haraj, another popular commodity app. There were hundreds more on Instagram, which is owned by Facebook.

The BBC team travelled to Guinea to try to contact the family of Fatou, the child they had discovered being offered for sale in Kuwait.

Every year hundreds of women are trafficked from here to the Gulf as domestic workers.

"Kuwait is really a hell," said one former maid, who recalled being made to sleep in the same place as cows by the woman who employed her. "Kuwaiti houses are very bad," said another. "No sleep, no food, nothing."

Fatou was found by the Kuwaiti authorities and taken to the government-run shelter for domestic workers. Two days later she was deported back to Guinea for being a minor.

She told the BBC about her experience working in three households during her nine months in Kuwait: "They used to shout at me and call me an animal. It hurt, it made me sad, but there was nothing I could do."

Now she is back at school in Conakry, where the BBC visited her.

"I am so happy," she said.

"Even now, talking about it, I'm still happy. My life is better now. I feel like I'm coming back from slavery."

The Kuwaiti government says it is "at war with this kind of behaviour" and insisted the apps would be "heavily scrutinised".

To date, no significant action has been taken against the platforms. And there has not been any legal action against the woman who tried to sell Fatou. The seller has not responded to the BBC's request for comment.

Since the BBC team contacted the apps and tech companies about their findings, 4Sale has removed the domestic worker section of its platform.

Facebook said it had banned the Arabic hashtag "خادمات للتنازل#" - which translates as "#maidsfortransfer".

"We will continue to work with law enforcement, expert organisations and industry to prevent this behaviour on our platforms," added a Facebook spokesman.

There was no comment from the Saudi commodity app, Haraj.

Google said it was "deeply troubled by the allegations".

"We have asked BBC to share additional details so we can conduct a more in-depth investigation," it added. "We are working to ensure that the app developers put in place the necessary safeguards to prevent individuals from conducting this activity on their online marketplaces."

Apple said it "strictly prohibited" the promotion of human trafficking and child exploitation in apps made available on its marketplace.

"App developers are responsible for policing the user-generated content on their platforms," it said.

"We work with developers to take immediate corrective actions whenever we find any issues and, in extreme cases, we will remove the app from the Store.

"We also work with developers to report any illegalities to local law enforcement authorities."

The firms continue to distribute the 4Sale and Haraj apps, however, on the basis that their primary purpose is to sell legitimate goods and services.

4Sale may have tackled the problem, but at the time of publication, hundreds of domestic workers were still being traded on Haraj, Instagram and other apps which the BBC has seen.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-50228549

Meanwhile, Social Media users have been condemning the online slave trade as primitive and barbaric:

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by JeromeBlack: 4:55pm On Nov 10, 2019
ibnmoruf:

I can see most nairalanders criticizing Islam do so in ignorance and based on hearsays
Islam created a system in which slaves will be freed before Abraham Lincoln
Go and check history books Muslims are known for buying slaves and freeing them


There exists no proof of islam being anti-slavery.

The only positive step Islam made towards slavery is to state that freeing slaves is a good thing but the freeing was not compulsory. There was no sin in having slaves.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by SachaBastien(m): 4:58pm On Nov 10, 2019
CarlyX8:

Happy Sunday!!
Wtf Niger!
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by Tzar(m): 5:20pm On Nov 10, 2019
Most Arabs see other races (apart from Caucasians) as slaves ...even in this 21st century.

Sadly these other races help buttress this horrible narrative with bad governance in their home countries.
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by henryobinna(m): 5:26pm On Nov 10, 2019
CarlyX8:

Am telling you, there are the pioneers of slave trade
you're talking trash
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by midnighter(f): 5:31pm On Nov 10, 2019
naijacentric:
but we have black arabs now so what has colour got to do with it even indians have blacks

Black Arabs are discriminated against all the time in the Arab world, if you doubt me try watching Arabic TV series during Ramadan and see how they paint their bodies with brown paint to make jest of Sudanese people.

Also there was a case in Lebanon of a Sudanese diplomat who wanted to send his child to nursery school. The school he chose rejected his baby because the Lebanese parents said that if that black boy enters the school, they will all remove their own kids. As the case got some media attention the school now retracted their statement and told the man to come back

In Yemen the black arabs are named "Ikhdam" (Servants) and treated very badly

In Mauritania they still buy and sell black people in the market...

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by Cousin9999: 5:49pm On Nov 10, 2019
JeromeBlack:


Nope, history shows that Arabs actually dominate and then take slaves.

Dont be blaming your African ancestors anyhow

That's a filthy Arab or a white making that comment. Demons. Arabs are scum of the earth.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by Cousin9999: 5:51pm On Nov 10, 2019
ernieboy:
oga if one must travel, travel to a good country, most Arab countries are just marginally better than African countries but people just move anywhere in the name of travelling.

There's nothing better about their dirty, disgusting, barren countries. Only a fool thinks there's any reason to go to that part of the world. They're worthless.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by Caseless: 6:04pm On Nov 10, 2019
StaffofOrayan:
There are few as racists as Arabs
You can't blame them though, a billion muslims think God speaks and write Arabic.
2 billion christians think God speaks and write in english. What does that make you?

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by einsteine(m): 6:25pm On Nov 10, 2019
Empiree:
Why are africans and Nigerians complaining about Arabs slave trade here while in fact, if you visit average middle class Nigerian homes who have maids, the maids even speak the same language as them, are treated as slaves. In another word, Nigerians equally enslaved low income Nigerians. Stop worrying about Arabs. Those who involved in slavery amongst them will face their consequences alone.

Besides, physical slavery is still better than intellectual slavery bcuz someone who is physically enslaved will free himself or herself for as long as they get sound mind. But look at White people, in this case France; which still charges colonial tax from it's former colonies. France syphons over $5 billion every year from Africa as part of agreement signed in order for them to end physical slavery. On top of that, part of the agreement is that French military can invade these african countries without notice if it's interest is threatened. Yet, africans do nothing about this ongoing or continuous systematic slavery.


If you think I made this up please check out former AU ambassador to US, Arikana Chihombori on YouTube.


Chihombori, a sacked and disgraced conspiracy theorist is your source?
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by Empiree: 6:57pm On Nov 10, 2019
einsteine:



Chihombori, a sacked and disgraced conspiracy theorist is your source?
this is why I hate Africans. Brainwash is real. Africa can never develop for as long as folks like you exist in the midst.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by rotimage(m): 7:16pm On Nov 10, 2019
philip0906:
This is sad. While I do not want to be aligned along religious lines, I have met and seen Muslims here in Nigeria who don't see anything wrong with enslaving women as well as sexual attraction to young and underage girls.

You will have to understand that these ideologies are enshrined in the Koran and these guys are just practicing what their Koran says (though there are quite a handful of "liberals" who do not wholeheartedly follow these laid down tenets in the Koran)

I have this to say... May the wrath Allah be upon you if all you claimed (that Quran and the Prophet teaches Muslims to enslave women and attraction to underage) up here are all lies but if they are the truth may you be prosper in all your endeavors.

I don't want long story, that's why I come straight at you. Just say Amen as you're so sure of what you said up there.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by JeromeBlack: 7:25pm On Nov 10, 2019
Empiree:
Why are africans and Nigerians complaining about Arabs slave trade here while in fact, if you visit average middle class Nigerian homes who have maids, the maids even speak the same language as them, are treated as slaves. In another word, Nigerians equally enslaved low income Nigerians. Stop worrying about Arabs. Those who involved in slavery amongst them will face their consequences alone.

Besides, physical slavery is still better than intellectual slavery bcuz someone who is physically enslaved will free himself or herself for as long as they get sound mind. But look at White people, in this case France; which still charges colonial tax from it's former colonies. France syphons over $5 billion every year from Africa as part of agreement signed in order for them to end physical slavery. On top of that, part of the agreement is that French military can invade these african countries without notice if it's interest is threatened. Yet, africans do nothing about this ongoing or continuous systematic slavery.


If you think I made this up please check out former AU ambassador to US, Arikana Chihombori on YouTube.


Face the issue, you this lying Islamist.

The issue here is Arab slavery of Africans.

I dont know why you are bringing in conspiracy theories about France here.

You are a sick fanatical muslim. Anything to defend your Arab masters.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by philip0906(m): 7:31pm On Nov 10, 2019
rotimage:


I have this to say... May the wrath Allah be upon you if all you claimed (that Quran and the Prophet teaches Muslims to enslave women and attraction to underage) up here are all lies but if they are the truth may you be prosper in all your endeavors.

I don't want long story, that's why I come straight at you. Just say Amen as you're so sure of what you said up there.
Allah's wrath can't be upon anyone. Tell that crap to your fellow Muslim faithfuls. I don't believe in any Allah so it's not any of my problem.

I only stated a fact that the Koran is littered with texts and tales of your prophet, admonishing and supporting slavery.

My post was not an attack on Muslims, as you guys are free to believe whatever...just facts stated

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by Johnkuku: 8:39pm On Nov 10, 2019
I hate hypocrites. So many here complaining and crying about slavery on this post yet almost all of them had a house girl or house boy doing all the chores in thier homes while growing up .

Most (notice I did not say probably) still have maids aka house boy/girl at home that they pay peanuts monthly even as they type their hypocritical comments and condemnations on arabs and thier culture here on this post.Shebi they say charity begins at home?

Women that form feminism and are "fighting for gender equality ".They can't cook for thier husbands but they have house girls/boy who cook ,clean ,wash and look after their homes and children and get rewarded with being sent to poor schools.Some of our Feminists even beat the maids for reasons such as disrespect etc yet preach equality with thier hypocritical mouths.

Abeg every region has thier culture,tradition and values .The concept of house boy /maid has been in Africa even before islam or christianity came here.People will and still do send thier children to live with relatives where these kids are essentially house boys/girls in the name of getting a better life.

Some Nigerians if given the chance will gladly go to these Arab countries to become maids and be transferred from one master to Another in the hope of getting a better life similar to the poor relative who sends his child to the city to essentially become a houseboy/slave in the home of his wealthy relative with the hope of that child getting a better life.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by IDRWFB(m): 8:42pm On Nov 10, 2019
A certain Olaadegbu created a thread showing how Arabs were into the slave trade and how they captured and enslaved more people than the Whites... or something like that.

Arab enslavement

Many people don't know about these facts.
The thread is quite educative.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by StaffofOrayan(m): 8:48pm On Nov 10, 2019
Another set of crazy people

Caseless:
2 billion christians think God speaks and write in english. What does that make you?
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by Empiree: 9:53pm On Nov 10, 2019
JeromeBlack:



Face the issue, you this lying Islamist.

The issue here is Arab slavery of Africans.

I dont know why you are bringing in conspiracy theories about France here.

You are a sick fanatical muslim. Anything to defend your Arab masters.
physical slavery can not last long. This is why British, France, Portuguese and other colonial masters ended that version of slave trade and gave you "independence" and enslaved you again in another version, mental slavery. Mental slavery will last longer than physical one. This ia why arab slave traders did not survive and the very same reason it can not survive second round of physical slavery unless individual africans choose to be enslaved.


Proof of mental slavery is exactly what you are doing. Mental slavery last longer than centuries cheesy



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_FzXO8I3gQ&t=258s


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYqF7NU3K7o&t=715s
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by Empiree: 9:56pm On Nov 10, 2019
Johnkuku:
I hate hypocrites. So many here complaining and crying about slavery on this post yet almost all of them had a house girl or house boy doing all the chores in thier homes while growing up .

Most (notice I did not say probably) still have maids aka house boy/girl at home that they pay peanuts monthly even as they type their hypocritical comments and condemnations on arabs and thier culture here on this post.Shebi they say charity begins at home?

Women that form feminism and are "fighting for gender equality ".They can't cook for thier husbands but they have house girls/boy who cook ,clean ,wash and look after their homes and children and get rewarded with being sent to poor schools.Some of our Feminists even beat the maids for reasons such as disrespect etc yet preach equality with thier hypocritical mouths.

Abeg every region has thier culture,tradition and values .The concept of house boy /maid has been in Africa even before islam or christianity came here.People will and still do send thier children to live with relatives where these kids are essentially house boys/girls in the name of getting a better life.

Some Nigerians if given the chance will gladly go to these Arab countries to become maids and be transferred from one master to Another in the hope of getting a better life similar to the poor relative who sends his child to the city to essentially become a houseboy/slave in the home of his wealthy relative with the hope of that child getting a better life.



thank you. they are hypocrites. We have seen videos and pictures of housemaids brutalized by their madam. Yet they are here yelling about arabs.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by henryobinna(m): 10:11pm On Nov 10, 2019
Empiree:
this is why I hate Africans. Brainwash is real. Africa can never develop for as long as folks like you exist in the midst.
you never countered his claim... All of a sudden you hate yourself(an Africa ).

What type of weed do you all smoke? All of you Africans that hate Africans?
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by Empiree: 10:16pm On Nov 10, 2019
henryobinna:
you never countered his claim... All of a sudden you hate yourself(an Africa ).

What type of weed do you all smoke? All of you Africans that hate Africans?
Fix your brain before you quote me, please.
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by executive12: 10:33pm On Nov 10, 2019
Martinez39:
Anyone who thinks Islam is against slavery is either ignorant or dishonest. Prophet Muhammad was a paedophile. Imagine if I got married to a six year old girl and had sex with her at the age of nine, there would be an outrage, the authorities would come for me, and my image would be irreversibly destroyed yet Prophet Muhammad is the man many, both educated and illiterate, look up to as a person worthy of emulation.

After reading about the life and times of Prophet Mohammed, I began to wonder why any responsible and educated human being would want to be a Muslim and worship Mohammed. The man was very immoral and a fraud.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by henryobinna(m): 10:35pm On Nov 10, 2019
Empiree:
Fix your brain before you quote me, please.
grin grin grin grin

You're yet to tell me your brand of weed you Arab men worshiper
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by gaskiyamagana: 11:49pm On Nov 10, 2019
philip0906:
This is sad. While I do not want to be aligned along religious lines, I have met and seen Muslims here in Nigeria who don't see anything wrong with enslaving women as well as sexual attraction to young and underage girls.

You will have to understand that these ideologies are enshrined in the Koran and these guys are just practicing what their Koran says (though there are quite a handful of "liberals" who do not wholeheartedly follow these laid down tenets in the Koran)
U +
THRASH.
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by gaskiyamagana: 11:54pm On Nov 10, 2019
executive12:


After reading about the life and times of Prophet Mohammed, I began to wonder why any responsible and educated human being would want to be a Muslim and worship Mohammed. The man was very immoral and a fraud.
Holy ghost of salvation, holy fire of baptism, holy brababa of deliverance, holy ghost - Firefire of healing come and take over dis wan.
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by gaskiyamagana: 12:07am On Nov 11, 2019
JeromeBlack:



There exists no proof of islam being anti-slavery.

The only positive step Islam made towards slavery is to state that freeing slaves is a good thing but the freeing was not compulsory. There was no sin in having slaves.


Dean
School of Tramadology
University of Psychiatric
Nairaland Campus.
Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by ContractKiller: 12:20am On Nov 11, 2019
Dean
School of Poverty & Illiteracy
University of Starvation, Begging & Boko Haram,
Almajiri land
Sambisa



gaskiyamagana:

Dean
School of Tramadology
University of Psychiatric
Nairaland Campus.

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Re: 4Sale And Haraj Apps Used By Arabs To Buy African Slaves Uncovered By BBC by gaskiyamagana: 12:22am On Nov 11, 2019
FrLukas:


They didn't TAKE slaves. They BOUGHT slaves most likely. Which means that Africans also traded in slaves.

And yes, Islam actually strongly approves taking, buying and selling of slaves, raping female slaves who aren't believers etc.
Professor of Liestory
University of Drunkers
Nairaland Campus.

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