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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:35pm On Nov 10, 2019
Eruditor:


Mane stepped in when a player who was in possession was going to kick the ball. The player's legs made contact with Mane and ref gave a penalty. He did not protect the defender here.

In TAA's case, your argument is that TAA had nowhere to keep his hands. So ref protected him because of that. To me, is a double standard.

If the ref would not have given a penalty would the goal have stood? Or will it be cancelled because someone's hand touched it?
How? How was Aurier in possession there? That was a 50/50 ball and all talk of protection flies out the window. Mané did not impede Aurier at all

Yes. TAA had no where to put his hands. Sterling literally aimed at his hands. That pass was from 2.5 yards out.

The ref may decide to cancel or not cancel the goal. We see refs ignore fouls on attacking players preceding a goal when a goal is eventually scored all the time.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by obainojazz(m): 8:35pm On Nov 10, 2019
raumdeuter:


Rules should be used fairly for everyone not Ref CAN do with one team and not another.

I wanted a fair contest not one decided by FA and refs
You wanted grin
FIFA
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:36pm On Nov 10, 2019
BlueRayDick:


Instead of just accepting the ref waved it aside for reasons best known to him, they are claiming what I don't know sef.

Nothing hurts you if you hate Pep.

They can still say "Ref was wrong but I am happy apari lost" or something like that.

Not all these deliberate. Not deliberate. Lol
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 8:38pm On Nov 10, 2019
raumdeuter:


Trent handled the ball twice
The first instance, didn't the ball Silva's hand first? Or is the rule targeted at defenders only?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:39pm On Nov 10, 2019
A40:
How? How was Aurier in possession there? That was a 50/50 ball and all talk of protection flies out the window. Mané did not impede Aurier at all

Yes. TAA had no where to put his hands. Sterling literally aimed at his hands. That pass was from 2.5 yards out.

The ref may decide to cancel or not cancel the goal. We see refs ignore fouls on attacking players preceding a goal when a goal is eventually scored all the time.

Aurier was in possession. He controlled the ball. If he decided to dive instead of kicking the ball it would have been his foul. Refs choose when to use a rule and today the ref was wrong.

TAAs hands blocked the ball from going somewhere one of which could have been inside his own net. If the ref gave the penalty. He won't be wrong. That is why it is a double standard. Because he can pick and choose when to allow a rule.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 8:39pm On Nov 10, 2019
A40:
How? How was Aurier in possession there? That was a 50/50 ball and all talk of protection flies out the window. Mané did not impede Aurier at all

Yes. TAA had no where to put his hands. Sterling literally aimed at his hands. That pass was from 2.5 yards out.

The ref may decide to cancel or not cancel the goal. We see refs ignore fouls on attacking players preceding a goal when a goal is eventually scored all the time.

Y'all forgot how Mane aimed for Sisoko hand in ucl final last season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:40pm On Nov 10, 2019
patrickmuf:
The first instance, didn't the ball Silva's hand first? Or is the rule targeted at defenders only?

Then blow a foul
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 8:41pm On Nov 10, 2019
Nawa o. The way people keep a straight face to lie this days is tiring..


All I have to say is if na against us ref wave that kind ball I no go like am oo

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 8:42pm On Nov 10, 2019
Eruditor:


Lol

I wish you could see who you are talking to.

You guys are diggers. Read up some of the posts made last season and how it ended.

City will win the league again and I will have to suffer through the 1B squad arguments.

Alaye jor jor.

go and sit down jare. I don’t have time for your tears

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by patrickmuf(m): 8:42pm On Nov 10, 2019
raumdeuter:


Then blow a foul
Is this you saying you were initially wrong to say City deserved 2 PKs?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:43pm On Nov 10, 2019
popizaino:



Yes he stretched his hand but never in a deliberate attempt to block off the ball. Mane put the ball on his hand and a penalty of given. Arnold too never had his hands at his back so a penalty should have been given.
Did Boateng intend on touching the ball vs Italy? Let's be real. Sissoko was literally directing traffic in box 18.

Mané was not even looking at Sissoko. Sissoko literally barged into the box directing traffic like Yellow Fever. I'm literally watching the replay as we speak. His scenario and that of TAA was completely different
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:45pm On Nov 10, 2019
Obere4u:


Y'all forgot how Mane aimed for Sisoko hand in ucl final last season
He was not even looking at Sissoko, Sissoko literally barged into the box and his arms were horizontal and away from his body. Haba you guys stop comparing Kick n Start to Jack Daniels
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamoyindamola(m): 8:51pm On Nov 10, 2019
A40:
Did Boateng intend on touching the ball vs Italy? Let's be real. Sissoko was literally directing traffic in box 18.

Mané was not even looking at Sissoko. Sissoko literally barged into the box directing traffic like Yellow Fever. I'm literally watching the replay as we speak. His scenario and that of TAA was completely different
Hold up they the box18
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 8:52pm On Nov 10, 2019
Why wasn't this checked inch by inch like VAR did in Tottenham vs Leicester match?

Why dem no use the taperule dem use Dat day na?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:53pm On Nov 10, 2019
Leyqute:


Alaye jor jor.

go and sit down jare. I don’t have time for your tears

Lol.

Fail.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 8:54pm On Nov 10, 2019
BlueRayDick:
Why wasn't this checked inch by inch like VAR did in Tottenham vs Leicester match?

Why dem no use the taperule dem use Dat day na?

Cc raumdeuter.

This was the view I saw and from this, he looks off. They did not review it.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 8:56pm On Nov 10, 2019
Eruditor:


Aurier was in possession. He controlled the ball. If he decided to dive instead of kicking the ball it would have been his foul. Refs choose when to use a rule and today the ref was wrong.

TAAs hands blocked the ball from going somewhere one of which could have been inside his own net. If the ref gave the penalty. He won't be wrong. That is why it is a double standard. Because he can pick and choose when to allow a rule.
How are you in possession and you have to kick Mané before kicking the ball. I'm still not understanding this your logic. Him diving without contact would have made him look even more stupid. The ref rightly adjudged Aurier to have lost possession. That ball belonged to nobody at that point

No the 'double standards' is to avoid players working the system. Like Sterling was trying to do. Trent's hands did not leave his body, they were at his side. That discretion is so that players don't exploit loopholes in blanket rules
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 8:56pm On Nov 10, 2019
raumdeuter:


They told every defender to hide their hand as any contact with the ball is a foul. Unless its liverpool
Why did Klopp beat Pep, like it's champions league SF

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:56pm On Nov 10, 2019
BlueRayDick:
Why wasn't this checked inch by inch like VAR did in Tottenham vs Leicester match?

Why dem no use the taperule dem use Dat day na?

I am sure they will say it was not deliberate offside it was accidental
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 8:56pm On Nov 10, 2019
BlueRayDick:
Why wasn't this checked inch by inch like VAR did in Tottenham vs Leicester match?

Why dem no use the taperule dem use Dat day na?
I saw the VAR analysis of this during post match analysis, Salah was clearly not offside
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thecassanova: 8:57pm On Nov 10, 2019
How are these two scenes the same? Some analysts on NL sef.

Only one hand raised by Sissoko, TAA both hands by the side. Clear difference.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by LegoxMetahuman: 8:58pm On Nov 10, 2019
Thecassanova:
How is this two scene the same? Some analysts on NL sef.

Only one hand raised by Sissoko, TAA both hands by the side. Clear difference.
aparisports pundits dem grin

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 8:58pm On Nov 10, 2019
raumdeuter:


They told every defender to hide their hand as any contact with the ball is a foul. Unless its liverpool
This is wrong. When the ball hits your hand in a natural position, it's not a foul.

I noh believe say Arnold hand dey natural position sha
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BikeMan: 9:00pm On Nov 10, 2019
Eruditor:


Cc raumdeuter.

This was the view I saw and from this, he looks off. They did not review it.
I saw the review afterwards with the line drawn. Salah was clearly ON.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 9:00pm On Nov 10, 2019
A40:
How are you in possession and you have to kick Mané before kicking the ball. I'm still not understanding this your logic. Him diving without contact would have made him look even more stupid. The ref rightly adjudged Aurier to have lost possession. That ball belonged to nobody at that point

No the 'double standards' is to avoid players working the system. Like Sterling was trying to do. Trent's hands did not leave his body, they were at his side. That discretion is so that players don't exploit loopholes in blanket rules

Aurier did not lose possession. He only made contact with Mane whilst kicking the ball. The videos are online. Nobody can argue that.

There is nothing about working the system. I asked a question: if the ball deflected off TAAs hands and got into the Liverpool post would the ref have cancelled the goal?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 9:00pm On Nov 10, 2019
Thecassanova:
How is this two scene the same? Some analysts on NL sef.

Only one hand raised by Sissoko, TAA both hands by the side. Clear difference.

Oga once u make Ur Body bigger with Ur arms it's handball irrespective of where Ur hands are; whether in the air or on the floor.

Trent's hands obviously made his frame bigger than it actually is. Same as Sissoko's. They are both clear handball going by what FIFA tagged handball

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 9:01pm On Nov 10, 2019
BikeMan:
I saw the review afterwards with the line drawn. Salah was clearly ON.

They used that same view and drew the line from Stones. That was no VAR. That was the EPL showing a replay. I am not arguing for or against the goal but it was not VAR reviewed. If it was, they should have used alternate views to verify.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:02pm On Nov 10, 2019
BikeMan:
This is wrong. When the ball hits your hand in a natural position, it's not a foul.

I noh believe say Arnold hand dey natural position sha

Can you pull your penalty vs Ajax that got Veltman sent off? to see if his hand was not in a natural position

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 9:02pm On Nov 10, 2019
raumdeuter:


Most defenders jump and turn so the ball doesnt hit them in the face. His hand was right beside him or where should his hand be if not his side?

Trent hand was beside him, Kimpembe hand was beside him. One was a penalty one wasnt
Trent had no shot at getting his hands from the way because Sterling aimed at it.

In Kimpembe's case his hands were clearly away from his body and in anticipation of a long range shot. No defender jumps like that while trying to block a shot. His hands were in an unnatural position. Trent's wasn't
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 9:02pm On Nov 10, 2019
BlueRayDick:


Oga once u make Ur Body bigger with Ur arms it's handball irrespective of where Ur hands are; whether in the air or on the floor.

Trent's hands obviously made his frame bigger than it actually is. Same as Sissoko's. They are both clear handball going by what FIFA tagged handball

I mean it is not that hard.

Ask them if the ball had deflected into the post whether or not the ref would have allowed the goal to stand.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Obere4u: 9:03pm On Nov 10, 2019
A40:
He was not even looking at Sissoko, Sissoko literally barged into the box and his arms were horizontal and away from his body. Haba you guys stop comparing Kick n Start to Jack Daniels

Mane wasn't looking at Sisoko?

Na wa to u bros.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Eruditor: 9:04pm On Nov 10, 2019
Thecassanova:
How are these two scenes the same? Some analysts on NL sef.

Only one hand raised by Sissoko, TAA both hands by the side. Clear difference.

TAA shoulder is leaning forward. Lol.

He is trying to preempt the pain of the ball hitting his stomach or chest area. That was a handball that impeded with the play. Ref made a mistake. Liverpool have already won but you people should be objective.

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