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| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by musicwriter(m): 9:17am On Nov 16, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust:You've reduced your bible god to placebo effect? Interestingly, I already know the backend of science is what our African ancestors were doing thousands of years ago. That's what we now call juju or jazz or whatever. Indeed, western science has problem understanding it. Whats behind the Placebo effect was the play ground science of your African ancestors. But your ancestors didn't call it Jesus or Jehovah or Allah. They just knew through their spirituality that power or force or whatever you call it was of the Gods. Unfortunately, you don't know this because white people have labeled that power/force for you as Jesus or Jehovah, therefore, took you away from the real spirituality. Placebo effect is jazz, its mind control science and won't work on everybody. Placebo or God or whatever you call it won't work on anybody that understands the trick. Placebo or God won't work on you too if you understand the trick. Example: Jesus or Jehovah don't have any power over me now. But they used to when I didn't understand the trick. That's how placebo effect works. It is mind control healing just like your pastors do in church even though they live under the illusion that Jesus is doing it. All you need is remove the Jesus or Muhammad label that Europeans and Arabs have blinded us with and you'll discover the real God is in your African spirituality. |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by CanadaOrBust: 11:06am On Nov 16, 2019 |
musicwriter:So you see, atheists have nothing that can replace such a powerful force. So even if we allow your thesis that there is no god, you still lose. All those miracles, all those having someone as your partner through life, atheists cannot partake in it - because they are being too clever by half. Life is better, and better put together when u have a higher force (or believe u have a higher force) walking with you. When u can go to someone and pour out your heart. When you can ask someone for extra strength or guidance when you need it. Man is designed to benefit from such just as he is designed to benefit from placebo effect, without knowing exactly how it works. A wise man should spend substantial time nurturing such a powerful relationship instead of waste his time arguing that no such thing exists - when clearly it does exist and people honestly testify daily as to it’s powerful effects in their lives. If you were to fight with someone of equal strength but they believe a higher power is fighting with them, they will beat u easily. We as humans have no way of scientifically knowing or proving wether there is god or not, heck we don’t even have any way of knowing wether our reality is real or mere simulation. So how does being an atheist benefit anyone when, wether there is god or not, YOU LOSE?!! |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by musicwriter(m): 11:37am On Nov 16, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust:I, personally never told you there's no God but what I can tell you is that the bible God or Koran Allah doesn't exist, so if you believe in Jesus or Muhammad, you believe in a fake label of God. If you want to understand God, you must give up the religion that was given to you by Europeans because as you yourself acknowledged, western ''scientists'' don't understand it. And since that's the case, then white people shouldn't be the ones telling you about God, placebo or whatever have you. Our African spirituality has more to do with God than Christianity and Islam. That's my point. |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by CanadaOrBust: 2:07pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
musicwriter:Faith needs to have a basis just as placebo effect needs a real placebo. The problem with your African gods and spirituality is that they have been demonstrated to be weak or inferior and practices associated with worshipping them, wicked. When the missionaries came and requested land, they were given land belonging to a deity so the deity would kill them off, instead they thrived and flourished. Christ said 2000 years ago that his words would never pass away. African gods have nothing similar. Chriatins have a reference book - the Bible. African gods have nones |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by CanadaOrBust: 2:34pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
musicwriter:Faith needs to have a basis just as placebo effect needs a real placebo. The problem with your African gods and spirituality is that they have been demonstrated to be weak or inferior and practices associated with them, wicked. When the missionaries came and requested land, they were given land belonging to a deity so the deity would kill them off, instead they thrived and flourished. Christ said 2000 years ago that his words would never pass away, he’s been proven right. African gods have no equivalent. Mohammed conquered nations with a small band of men. African gods which were real physical sculptures were destroyed by foreigners and nothing happened. Christians and moslems have revered reference books codifying their history and beliefs and reasons for their practices. African gods have none, etc. |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by musicwriter(m): 3:40pm On Nov 16, 2019*. Modified: 3:58pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust:The real placebo is your mind. The universe is mind, all is mental..... the Kabylon. Unfortunately, you're hard wired to believe there's a physical white God sitting on a throne who is superior than African Gods. Man is the centralized quality of his God!. Your African Gods only became weak and inferior after the white man conquered your ancestors and imposed their God on you. And they went ahead to educate you that your Gods were wicked. The missionaries thrived despite of our Gods because as I said before, no God or placebo would have effect on you unless you believe it. The missionaries came into Africa with a different cultural consciousness that didn't recognize our Gods, therefore, our Gods had no effect on them. In the same way that your Jesus or Muhammad has no effect on me now. So, you see, again, its mental. Its a pity when you talk about African Gods not having anything to reference unto, when in reality, everything in your bible is a plagiarism of ancient African spirituality. I'll encourage you to research history of religions, and you'll discover that the concept of resurrection from death, virgin birth, three wise men, walking on water, healing the sick, feeding the multitude, etc, were already known in African spirituality before anybody heard of Jesus (who never existed) by the way. Your bible stories were copied from ancient African systems. Osiris RESURRECTED from death over 7,000 years ago. He died and resurrected into HEAVEN. When Osiris died, his wife Isis became pregnant WITHOUT SEX. Isis, therefore, was the first ever known VIRGIN mother. Before giving birth, an ANGEL TOLD HER SHE WOULD CONCEIVE WITHOUT SEX. She birthed a son called Horus who was the FIRST KNOWN PERSON BORN WITHOUT SEX. Horus WAS BORN ON 25th DECEMBER. Horus WAS BORN IN A MANGER. Horus and Isis were visited BY THREE WISE MEN FROM THE EAST. Horus and Isis were GIVEN GIFTS BY THE THREE WISE MEN. When Horus was born a king ORDERED EVERY BOY CHILD TO BE KILLED because the boy would grow up to overthrow him. Horus was a preacher who went about town talking about the KINGDOM OF HIS father. From AGE 12 NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT HORUS. From AGE 30 HORUS RESURFACED TO THE PUBLIC. Horus HAD 12 DISCIPLES.. Horus did many miracles, like HEALING THE SICK, FEEDING THE MULTITUDE, WALKING ON WATER, etc. Horus was KILLED BY HIS ENEMY. Horus RESURRECTED from the dead. Horus went into heaven where he sits at THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF GOD to judge the world. Horus IS IN HEAVEN NOW. All the above happened 5,000 years before anybody heard of Jesus Christ. How dumb could an African be to believe Jesus as his/her personal lord and savior!!. An African has to be a big fool to believe in Jesus. There were books that documented the above stories but in order to keep you blind, Europeans burnt down the ancient African libraries in Alexandria where the books were kept. In 48 BC, Alexander the great destroyer, burnt down your library. It is said that over 1 million books were lost. Another European, I think Ptolemy repeated the same thing. Its reported that over 700,000 books lost. Later, Emperor Constantine, during his reign even ordered his army to go from house to house to confiscate, burn and kill anybody reading the African bible or any other holy book outside of the new bible he just fabricated. Much later, libraries at Sankore university in Mali were also burnt and the scholars dispersed. After doing all these, they wrote and gave you a plagiarized book called bible to read. This's why you don't know you've been scammed!. By the way, the bible God remain the most wicked God ever. For your information, that's why it was successfully used to conquer people. But African Gods were humane and didn't subscribe to the ideology of conquest, violence and supremacy over others. But Jehovah and Allah weren't as humane. If you want to know how wicked and how your bible God was used to conquer innocent people, see the below documentary at the mentioned time space. It shows how Europeans forcefully subdued harmless, innocent native people everywhere they went. This documentary is generally about gold, so only from 30:00 minutes to 44:35 minutes is relevant here. Of course, you can watch the full video. How Europeans killed and dehumanized native people in order to impose Jesus on them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyNZH5c4FE8 |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by CanadaOrBust: 4:45pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
musicwriter:The big flaw in your submission is that u forget the same thing also happened to whites including Brits and Romans - they also had their own gods until the one true god was brought from abroad and their gods had to give way. Christ said it clearly in the Bible: “if what I am teaching is not from the one true God then it will quickly pass away as thousands of others have. But my words will last for ever because they are from the one true God”. When he was crucified his insignificantly small sect felt defeated but he had already told them they would end up dominating empires - which was exactly what happened. Horus is a made-up story after the fact to discredit Lord Jesus’ divinity. All u need to be saved is accept that he died for your sins. That’s all that’s required of you - simply accept. Simply do it instead of arguing things u have no way of knowing or verifying. |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by musicwriter(m): 10:54pm On Nov 16, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust:Other Gods had to give way for the one true God? Really?And the one true God had to kill millions of innocent people before they know he's the one true God? Your one true God was only installed on conquered lands. Those lands that were never conquered don't worship your one true God and will never. Go to China or Japan or Saudi Arabia or Iran or North Korea or Thailand or Nepal or India, etc to find out whether your one true God is their God. Its only you the defeated that worships a foreign God. |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by CanadaOrBust: 12:01am On Nov 17, 2019 |
musicwriter:Not true. After the death of their charismatic leader a small group usually disbands - give me one instance in history where this didn’t happen. Only one exception - Christians. After Lord Jesus was so ignominiously dispatched, there was left a very small group of terrified followers. They were persecuted, fed to lions, crucified yet, WITHOUT FIRING A SHOT, they conquered the great Roman Empire that was terrorizing everyone. Soon the rest of Europe followed, then others - before it eventually got to Africa. |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by musicwriter(m): 9:34am On Nov 17, 2019*. Modified: 9:51am On Nov 17, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust:There was no Jesus at all. It was an invention by the Roman empire to colonize people in their empire, only. Of course, shots were fired. The early Christians were tricked to fight on the side of Emperor Constantine to defeat his political rivals. He promised them he'll make Christianity official in the Roman empire. But that's not what he did. He instead brought in Roman pagan practises into it and took over the top hierachy. The early Christians who were mostly from Iraq, Syria, Turkey, Egypt, etc, then abandoned the religion and left. This's the major reason Middle East people don't believe in Jesus because they realized the fraud inmediately. The Christianity you believe today is European gentile Christianity, not the original 1st century Christianity. So, Christianity didn't conquer the Roman empire, instead the Roman empIre conquered it. Any further spread was as a result of other colonialists, like Britain France, Portugal, Spain, etc, finding it as a useful tool to enslave further people in their colony. The reason Christianity has been successful is because it blinds you the victim and makes you a slave who doesn't know he's a slave- in fact, who prefer to be a slave. You cannot be in your right state of mind as an African and be a Christian. |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by CanadaOrBust: 9:57am On Nov 17, 2019 |
musicwriter:I’m not sure you realize how convoluted your reasoning. is. It is a HISTORICAL fact that Rome persecuted early Christians and did all they could to stamp out Christianity. The emperor was worshipped as god. Why then would he be inventing a religion that emphasized that he is a mere sinful human and that all the Roman gods were false gods?? All the stories of survival and spread of Christianity is in the Bible |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by musicwriter(m): 10:34am On Nov 17, 2019 |
CanadaOrBust:The stories in the bible about spread of Christianity was of 1st and 2nd century Christianity within Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Greece, Palestine, etc, before Rome hijacked it. I already told you those were genuine Christianity. Again, Rome wasn't interest in the religion for spiritual purposes but for POLITICAL purposes. Even though Emperor Constantine adopted it but, ironically, Constantine himself was never a Christian!. Emperor Constantine continued as the head of the Roman pagan sun God until his death. Christianity was created for slaves, only. Christianity is a FRAUD!. Two reasearchers have dealt squarely with that subject and even written a book on it. See the second documentary below. This's my last post on this thread. Those who are busy and have no time to do extensive research on Christianity and Jesus, the below documentaries pretty summarizes what scholars have found out about Christianity. These are researchers extraordinaire, all of them former Christians, they've spent years researching this topic. They've been to all territories pursuing the historicity of Christianity to a logical conclusion. Documentaries are not movies, rather they're scholarly works put in video, so what you'll see here are hard facts. Enjoy!. Origin of Christianity- The Flavian Dynasty Connection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nYUJTRos5o&t=40s How Emperor Constantine Invented Christianity by Deceit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8LLZId2B1M&t=25s The Truth About Christianity- Jesus Never Existed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VlUgiTt9Gk The coupling of the Bible from various books https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWUMIhwgRAo |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by CanadaOrBust: 3:01pm On Nov 17, 2019 |
musicwriter:Bros, there are a million scholarly documentaries on YouTube showing conclusively how the world is flat. I ask you once again, can’t you see how convoluted and disjointed the reasoning is?? You say there was no Jesus yet u acknowledge there were those fanatic early Christians. WHO THEN WERE THOSE EARLY CHRISTIANS SO WILLING TO LOSE THEIR LIVES FOR?? YouTube is full of lies disguised as truth. If u want the truth keep away from YouTube. Constantine’s life is carefully recorded HISTORY. It is not like the Bible u can claim was made up BY ROME! If you want to know about Constantine go and read it yourself. His wife, mother, and head of Army were all baptized Christians. He himself for expediency did not baptize till he was about to die. GO AND READ IT YOURSELF!! Stop imbibing lunatic fringe stuff. Below is a brief history of Constantine. Note the bolded. (As a child Constantine witnessed intense persecution of Christians) Following a vision Constantine had ordered a Christian symbol to be painted on his soldiers' shields. Under this emblem, he was successful in battle and entered Rome. Constantine now became the Western Roman emperor. He soon used his power to address the status of Christians, issuing the Edict of Milan in 313. This proclamation legalized Christianity and allowed for freedom of worship throughout the empire. For a time, Constantine stood by as others ruled the Eastern Roman Empire. In 316, Licinius, who had been sharing power with Maximinus, became the only Eastern emperor. In 324, Constantine defeated Licinius and took control of a reunited empire. After this triumph, Constantine founded the city of Constantinople on the site of Byzantium. Sole Roman Emperor Constantine continued to proclaim his adherence to Christianity, and his reign established influence over religious conflicts within the church. Not wanting questions about the divine nature of Christ to sow discord, Constantine summoned church officials to the Council of Nicaea in 325. Out of this came the Nicene Creed, which affirmed that Jesus was a divine being. While in power, Constantine issued reforms intended to strengthen his regime. One such reform was a reorganization of the army, which helped Constantine when he faced tribes such as the Visigoths and the Sarmatians. Constantine was in Helenopolis, planning a campaign against Persia, when he fell ill. He set out to return to Constantinople, but grew worse and was forced to halt his journey. He had delayed his baptism—a common practice at the time—but now underwent the rite. Constantine died on May 22, 337, in Ancyrona, near Nicomedia, Bithynia (modern day ?zmit, Turkey), at the approximate age of 57. He was buried in Constantinople at the church of the Apostles. |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by Nobody: 3:42pm On Nov 17, 2019 |
Ladyhippolyta88:Where have thou been? Longtime |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 5:00pm On Nov 17, 2019 |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by Nobody: 6:11pm On Nov 17, 2019 |
Ladyhippolyta88: yeah me too. Sometimes it's better that way, too many toxic people on this forum these days |
| Re: Betty Irabor Reacts To Biodun Fatoyinbo's Victory Against Busola Dakolo by Ladyhippolyta88(f): 9:08pm On Nov 17, 2019 |
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