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tojahh:
Hahaha. I'm sorry sir but you're a joke! So pastors shouldn't work and earn a living?

Okay..
Okay...
Okay...
Who now pays the choir since they are in Gods vineyard? Hahahaha. So pastors are in for the benefits that comes from the church instead of shepherding the whole flock under their care?

Aaron was ordained by God, as a levite to man the temple and teach the word of God to the congregation and take from the offering because he is a LEVITE like Miriam and Ezekiel and their descendants. Abeg are today's pastors LEVITES? why are they keen on chopping our money?

Maybe all of us should be Pastors then.

Nigeriahomebiz:
For the part bolded read it again. So in this case the pastor can slaughter or sell his church members to make money? Does this example make sense

Mokason28:
Out of every 100 pastors in Abuja 98 are Fake
Out of every 100 pastors in Nigeria 98 are Fake
Out of every 100 pastors in Africa 98 are Fake
Gullible followers please stay off my mention cause I have Zero tolerance for trollers and E warriors

alBHAGDADI:
Did you go to school at all?


Your mumu never do

nineone:
There's nothing like FAKE pastor. All pastors are real and carry out their lies and deception differently

alBHAGDADI:
Are you a blind bat? I'm I the one encouraging what I said or it is Paul and Apostle of Jesus Christ that said so? Paul said pastors are to live of the gospel. You are here saying otherwise.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


How did Aaron take care of his family? He did with what he got from what was offered in the temple. That's exactly how Peter and the Apostles were able to care for their family.

Mind you, there was a gathering called Church because the first time Peter preached, they were about a hundred. After he finished preaching, 3000 souls got added to the fold.

I think I have to stop entertaining your arrogant ignorance.

alBHAGDADI:
You guys are so dumb, stupid and arrogant at it. Look at the silly question you are asking. Yet, one would think you are versed in the Bible before you made the above statement.

You want to know where Paul stated that Pastors are to feed of the church? Look below and cure your ignorance.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


Aaron the High Priest was ordained by God to take his portion from every tithe and offering offered to the temple of God. Paul said above that same thing has been ordained by Jesus for such to be done in his Church.

Mind you, the Jehovah's False Witnesses don't follow the commandments of God, that's why wetin concern them with tithe and offering.

izzou:
Aaron was a Levite, and like I said, the people as at that time, worshipped in the temple,so there were Levites then.

Again you dodged my question. When Jesus was alive, how were the disciples able to feed, since they were not working? These men had families, so how were they caring for them? Remember, they were not working in the temple

You don't know anything. You will quote Corinthians again and type Aaron. There is nowhere Jesus encourage shepherds to live on the proceeds of their members.

SirToothBrush:
Hi, alBHAGDADI, what was Christ's profession? If you had said Christ didn't have a job except preaching the gospel, you would have portrayed an irresponsible Jesus/an irresponsible man.

But the way you put your response, you intelligence is questionable. Christ didn't feed off the gospel but wants the pastors to feed off the gospel? Salvation isn't free

alBHAGDADI:
Are you a blind bat? I'm I the one encouraging what I said or it is Paul and Apostle of Jesus Christ that said so? Paul said pastors are to live of the gospel. You are here saying otherwise.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


How did Aaron take care of his family? He did with what he got from what was offered in the temple. That's exactly how Peter and the Apostles were able to care for their family.

Mind you, there was a gathering called Church because the first time Peter preached, they were about a hundred. After he finished preaching, 3000 souls got added to the fold.

I think I have to stop entertaining your arrogant ignorance.

alBHAGDADI:
You are of the kind I spoke of - always rushing to slam pastors without having full knowledge of the Bible.

I showed you were Jesus was angry at Peter for going back to his profession of fishing, yet you ask this question about Peter? Peter was a Bishop of a Church and had every right to feed of the Church as stated by Paul who revealed that such was also the case in the temple.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Just shut up and quit acting like you know. Who is encouraging laziness in the Church if not you? Your kind are the type that want to see the house of God crumble with no shepherd. You want the pastor to be somewhere else hustling while the sheep starve of the word of God.

God ordained his priests in the Old Testament to feed of the temple. Apostle Paul also confirmed that same thing applies today in the church. But you are here puffed up with your own understanding.

Now, to answer your question about Peter. Nowhere is it written that he engaged in any job after Jesus stopped him from his fishing activities. Or can you point out one job Peter did since then? No you can't. But it is written that Peter preached the gospel and pastored a church. So, clearly, Peter didn't do any job asides being a pastor, or a Fisher of men which Jesus called him to do.

OyinO:
The Bible is full of parabolic illustrations, allegories, fables and superstitious myths. The Sun of God is the Light of the World. But when Sun becomes Son, the Sun is personified as Son of God. The Sun/Son that shines in darkness. The Sun sinks into it's lowest Zenith in Winter Solstice - 22nd, 23rd and 24th and start to rise again on the 25th of December. CHRISTMAS DAY! Rebirth of the Sun! Then Santa Claus (Satan Claus) appears. This happens in the temperate and Arctic regions of earth plane. The Rebirth of the Sun after its 3 DAYS DEATH is called the Resurrection of the Sun (now Son) of God. It's all about SUN WORSHIP. What is Sun Day?? There's no Sun day in the Buybull until new testament of imperial editing. Behind the head if the Christos, there's always a yellow Sun. And at Spring time, THE SUN RISES in Easter. Yet the pale (oyinbo) man with long hair is busy BLOCKING THE SUN from reaching the Creation of the Universe. Yet pale people cannot withstand the Sun. What an irony? For they run into hiding like zombies once the Sun start rising. It's the BLACK MAN WHO RISES WUTH THE SUN THROUGH THE POWER OF MELANIN. Your Religion is Pagan mythology modified from Greco-Roman versions of stolen African, Egyptian and Babylonian Sun Worship Systems. Christianity is Fake! Has nothing to deliver except giving vain hope to the oppressed and deprived masses. It's paganism used to replace pure African metaphysical spirituality at the coming of European invaders of brutal COLONIALISM. Today, ad it was in the beginning, it's nothing but BUSINESS ORGANISATIONS sapping the dumb innocent sufferers while giving them vain hope in a nonexistent afterlife. Just to make them docile enough for rulers and leaders to keep them poor and hungry. It was started in ROME, from where it spread to Africa and the Americas through colonial imperialism. Nuff said!

izzou:

It's funny that a whole you, who is against prosperity gospel, is encouraging someone to sleep and wake up at home, hoping people who earn less than $100 come and pay him to eat, in the name of "shepherd". You're pathetic

So, if Peter and the other disciples were not working, how were they taking care of their family? There was no gathering then, people were still worshipping in the temple so how were they feeding from the church? Or was Christ paying them salaries?

There are pastors, choir leaders, and so many workers in the church. It takes more than a pastor to get a church service ready. So who pays the others?

Every pastor should work, or have a source of income. If you want to preach about hardworking, you should be practicing it.

You don't have the spirit to understand. You never have, and you never will

izzou:
So, if Peter and the other disciples were not working, how were they taking care of their family? There was no gathering then, people were still worshipping in the temple so how were they feeding from the church? Or was Christ paying them salaries?

There are pastors, choir leaders, and so many workers in the church. It takes more than a pastor to get a church service ready. So who pays the others?

Every pastor should work, or have a source of income. If you want to preach about hardworking, you should be practicing it.

Opiosko:
*Not All Pastors Are Fake!*
*Not All Pastors Depend On Tithes & Offerings To Survive!*
*Not All Pastors Place Price Tags On Counselling!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Are Into Ministry For Money!*
*Not All Men Of God Take Advantage Of Gullible People!*
*Not All Men Of God Stage Miracles!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Sexually Molest Women!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Are Proud!*
*Not All Prophets Seek Powers From The Devil!*
*Not All Shepherds Lack The Fear Of GOD!*
*Not All Apostles Are Repackaged Herbalists!*
*Not All Pastors Are Denominational Marketers!*
*Not All Pastors Seek Fame By All Means!*

*_GOD called those HE called. Those He called are aware He called them. Those HE did not call are equally aware GOD did not call them_ !!!*

*Stop criticizing All Pastors & Prophets by calling them all manners of derogatory names!*

*There are FAKE Pastors no doubt, just as there are FAKE Engineers, Quack Doctors, Quack Nurses, Quack Lecturers, Teachers, Mechanics, Bankers Lawyers and so on...*

*And There Are FAKE Church Members Too o!*

*Whatever is AUTHENTIC will always have it's COUNTERFEIT! YES... Even Spiritual Assignments Are Not Exempted!*

If you have been a victim of one of those misrepresenting Spiritual Offices, all I can say to you is *SORRY* . *GOD* will fight for you!
But please don't spread your anger, animosity or personal perception about Pastors around.

*Don't let the INNOCENT ONES pay for the sins of your OFFENDERS!*

Pick your *BIBLE,* read, study and depend on the *HOLY SPIRIT* for direction.

Ask *GOD* for answers to your *PRAYERS* if you feel you can't *TRUST* any *Man of GOD* anymore, instead of recruiting people to your school of acrimony due to your experience.

*In your field of endeavor, there are FAKE practitioners too. How would you feel if you are numbered among the PLASTIC ones*

*If you don't want to go to Church, don't!*
*If you don't want to tithe, don't!*
*If you don't want to seek counsel, don't!*
*If you don't believe in MIRACLES, fine* one thing is certain, if you don't work with or for God you will surely work with or for Satan..

Heaven is REAL and Hell is REAL. NO ONE CAN MISS THE TWO so choose wisely.

#Copied.

alBHAGDADI:
Nice

Today, many fools run their mouth at pastors and act as if they know the Bible in and out. Whereas, their rudeness is only inspired by an anti-church article they read online.

Imagine people saying pastors ought to go get a job and stop depending on Church money. They foolishly use Apostle Paul as an example, saying he made his income from tent making.

Was Paul a pastor? Did he pastor any Church? No, he didn't because he was an evangelist moving about preaching the gospel. Peter, James, John etc were pastors of churches. Can anyone show me where they worked? You can't find such.

Have you ever wondered why Peter was silent after Jesus saw him fishing after his resurrection in John 21? He knew he had messed up. When Peter the fisherman was called by Jesus, what did Jesus say? He said he was going make him a Fisher of men. Peter dropped his net and followed Jesus. So, Jesus was disappointed to see him return to fishing again. "Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these?"

A pastor is to feed from the Church, a thing apostle Paul also approved. If a pastor gets a 9-5 job, he won't be able to have time to study the word of God which he will use to feed his flock. If the church has a serious programme coming up, he might miss it if his company decide to send him on an assignment to another city. Imagine his church is on the mainland and he works at Lekki, think of the traffic he would be facing before he gets to church for a midweek service.

ScepticalPyrrho:
I feel more pity for pastors who haven't realised that christianity is a waste of time.

I hope they discover their senses before they die of ignorance or their belief.

Most modern pastors saw the gullibility of christians and started with the pretense of being genuine.

I understand that some pastors started with strong beliefs in the Bible stories until it is too late to admit their past stupidity and saw the financial benefits in continuing with the shenanigans. Ofcourse, why not?

tojahh:
Hahaha. I'm sorry sir but you're a joke! So pastors shouldn't work and earn a living?

Okay..
Okay...
Okay...
Who now pays the choir since they are in Gods vineyard? Hahahaha. So pastors are in for the benefits that comes from the church instead of shepherding the whole flock under their care?

Aaron was ordained by God, as a levite to man the temple and teach the word of God to the congregation and take from the offering because he is a LEVITE like Miriam and Ezekiel and their descendants. Abeg are today's pastors LEVITES? why are they keen on chopping our money?

Maybe all of us should be Pastors then.

Mokason28:
Out of every 100 pastors in Abuja 98 are Fake
Out of every 100 pastors in Nigeria 98 are Fake
Out of every 100 pastors in Africa 98 are Fake
Gullible followers please stay off my mention cause I have Zero tolerance for trollers and E warriors

alBHAGDADI:
Nice

Today, many fools run their mouth at pastors and act as if they know the Bible in and out. Whereas, their rudeness is only inspired by an anti-church article they read online.

Imagine people saying pastors ought to go get a job and stop depending on Church money. They foolishly use Apostle Paul as an example, saying he made his income from tent making.

Was Paul a pastor? Did he pastor any Church? No, he didn't because he was an evangelist moving about preaching the gospel. Peter, James, John etc were pastors of churches. Can anyone show me where they worked? You can't find such.

Have you ever wondered why Peter was silent after Jesus saw him fishing after his resurrection in John 21? He knew he had messed up. When Peter the fisherman was called by Jesus, what did Jesus say? He said he was going make him a Fisher of men. Peter dropped his net and followed Jesus. So, Jesus was disappointed to see him return to fishing again. "Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these?"

A pastor is to feed from the Church, a thing apostle Paul also approved. If a pastor gets a 9-5 job, he won't be able to have time to study the word of God which he will use to feed his flock. If the church has a serious programme coming up, he might miss it if his company decide to send him on an assignment to another city. Imagine his church is on the mainland and he works at Lekki, think of the traffic he would be facing before he gets to church for a midweek service.

Opiosko:
*Not All Pastors Are Fake!*
*Not All Pastors Depend On Tithes & Offerings To Survive!*
*Not All Pastors Place Price Tags On Counselling!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Are Into Ministry For Money!*
*Not All Men Of God Take Advantage Of Gullible People!*
*Not All Men Of God Stage Miracles!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Sexually Molest Women!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Are Proud!*
*Not All Prophets Seek Powers From The Devil!*
*Not All Shepherds Lack The Fear Of GOD!*
*Not All Apostles Are Repackaged Herbalists!*
*Not All Pastors Are Denominational Marketers!*
*Not All Pastors Seek Fame By All Means!*

*_GOD called those HE called. Those He called are aware He called them. Those HE did not call are equally aware GOD did not call them_ !!!*

*Stop criticizing All Pastors & Prophets by calling them all manners of derogatory names!*

*There are FAKE Pastors no doubt, just as there are FAKE Engineers, Quack Doctors, Quack Nurses, Quack Lecturers, Teachers, Mechanics, Bankers Lawyers and so on...*

*And There Are FAKE Church Members Too o!*

*Whatever is AUTHENTIC will always have it's COUNTERFEIT! YES... Even Spiritual Assignments Are Not Exempted!*

If you have been a victim of one of those misrepresenting Spiritual Offices, all I can say to you is *SORRY* . *GOD* will fight for you!
But please don't spread your anger, animosity or personal perception about Pastors around.

*Don't let the INNOCENT ONES pay for the sins of your OFFENDERS!*

Pick your *BIBLE,* read, study and depend on the *HOLY SPIRIT* for direction.

Ask *GOD* for answers to your *PRAYERS* if you feel you can't *TRUST* any *Man of GOD* anymore, instead of recruiting people to your school of acrimony due to your experience.

*In your field of endeavor, there are FAKE practitioners too. How would you feel if you are numbered among the PLASTIC ones*

*If you don't want to go to Church, don't!*
*If you don't want to tithe, don't!*
*If you don't want to seek counsel, don't!*
*If you don't believe in MIRACLES, fine* one thing is certain, if you don't work with or for God you will surely work with or for Satan..

Heaven is REAL and Hell is REAL. NO ONE CAN MISS THE TWO so choose wisely.

#Copied.

akinade28:
brother you also didn't mention verse 15 of the scripture you quoted.
1 Corinthians 9:13-16 King James Version (KJV)

13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?

14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

15 But I have used none of these things: neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me: for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorying void.
Paul said he didn't use any of his right nor did he make demands that they should be done.
Let's learn to say the whole truth