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Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Opiosko: 6:25am On Nov 17
*Not All Pastors Are Fake!*
*Not All Pastors Depend On Tithes & Offerings To Survive!*
*Not All Pastors Place Price Tags On Counselling!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Are Into Ministry For Money!*
*Not All Men Of God Take Advantage Of Gullible People!*
*Not All Men Of God Stage Miracles!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Sexually Molest Women!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Are Proud!*
*Not All Prophets Seek Powers From The Devil!*
*Not All Shepherds Lack The Fear Of GOD!*
*Not All Apostles Are Repackaged Herbalists!*
*Not All Pastors Are Denominational Marketers!*
*Not All Pastors Seek Fame By All Means!*

*_GOD called those HE called. Those He called are aware He called them. Those HE did not call are equally aware GOD did not call them_ !!!*

*Stop criticizing All Pastors & Prophets by calling them all manners of derogatory names!*

*There are FAKE Pastors no doubt, just as there are FAKE Engineers, Quack Doctors, Quack Nurses, Quack Lecturers, Teachers, Mechanics, Bankers Lawyers and so on...*

*And There Are FAKE Church Members Too o!*

*Whatever is AUTHENTIC will always have it's COUNTERFEIT! YES... Even Spiritual Assignments Are Not Exempted!*

If you have been a victim of one of those misrepresenting Spiritual Offices, all I can say to you is *SORRY* . *GOD* will fight for you!
But please don't spread your anger, animosity or personal perception about Pastors around.

*Don't let the INNOCENT ONES pay for the sins of your OFFENDERS!*

Pick your *BIBLE,* read, study and depend on the *HOLY SPIRIT* for direction.

Ask *GOD* for answers to your *PRAYERS* if you feel you can't *TRUST* any *Man of GOD* anymore, instead of recruiting people to your school of acrimony due to your experience.

*In your field of endeavor, there are FAKE practitioners too. How would you feel if you are numbered among the PLASTIC ones*

*If you don't want to go to Church, don't!*
*If you don't want to tithe, don't!*
*If you don't want to seek counsel, don't!*
*If you don't believe in MIRACLES, fine* one thing is certain, if you don't work with or for God you will surely work with or for Satan..

Heaven is REAL and Hell is REAL. NO ONE CAN MISS THE TWO so choose wisely.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by alBHAGDADI: 6:30am On Nov 17
Opiosko:



*If you don't want to go to Church, don't!*
*If you don't want to tithe, don't!*
*If you don't want to seek counsel, don't!*
*If you don't believe in MIRACLES, fine* one thing is certain, if you don't work with or for God you will surely work with or for Satan..

Nice

Today, many fools run their mouth at pastors and act as if they know the Bible in and out. Whereas, their rudeness is only inspired by an anti-church article they read online.

Imagine people saying pastors ought to go get a job and stop depending on Church money. They foolishly use Apostle Paul as an example, saying he made his income from tent making.

Was Paul a pastor? Did he pastor any Church? No, he didn't because he was an evangelist moving about preaching the gospel. Peter, James, John etc were pastors of churches. Can anyone show me where they worked? You can't find such.

Have you ever wondered why Peter was silent after Jesus saw him fishing after his resurrection in John 21? He knew he had messed up. When Peter the fisherman was called by Jesus, what did Jesus say? He said he was going make him a Fisher of men. Peter dropped his net and followed Jesus. So, Jesus was disappointed to see him return to fishing again. "Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these?"

A pastor is to feed from the Church, a thing apostle Paul also approved. If a pastor gets a 9-5 job, he won't be able to have time to study the word of God which he will use to feed his flock. If the church has a serious programme coming up, he might miss it if his company decide to send him on an assignment to another city. Imagine his church is on the mainland and he works at Lekki, think of the traffic he would be facing before he gets to church for a midweek service.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by SirToothBrush: 6:54am On Nov 17
Hi, alBHAGDADI, what was Christ's profession?
alBHAGDADI:

He was a carpenter, and that same carpenter ordained his followers to live of the gospel.
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If you had said Christ didn't have a job except preaching the gospel, you would have portrayed an irresponsible Jesus/an irresponsible man.

But the way you put your response, you intelligence is questionable. Christ didn't feed off the gospel but wants the pastors to feed off the gospel? Salvation isn't free

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Vulcanheph(m): 7:19am On Nov 17
I know What You are saying is true......but most people this days especially here in Nigeria have turned christianity into a business, that's why You have a church in Virtually every nook and cranny.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by ScepticalPyrrho: 7:25am On Nov 17
I feel more pity for pastors who haven't realised that christianity is a waste of time.

I hope they discover their senses before they die of ignorance or their belief.

Most modern pastors saw the gullibility of christians and started with the pretense of being genuine.

I understand that some pastors started with strong beliefs in the Bible stories until it is too late to admit their past stupidity and saw the financial benefits in continuing with the shenanigans. Ofcourse, why not?

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by izzou(m): 7:28am On Nov 17
alBHAGDADI:


Nice

Today, many fools run their mouth at pastors and act as if they know the Bible in and out. Whereas, their rudeness is only inspired by an anti-church article they read online.

Imagine people saying pastors ought to go get a job and stop depending on Church money. They foolishly use Apostle Paul as an example, saying he made his income from tent making.

Was Paul a pastor? Did he pastor any Church? No, he didn't because he was an evangelist moving about preaching the gospel. Peter, James, John etc were pastors of churches. Can anyone show me where they worked? You can't find such.

Have you ever wondered why Peter was silent after Jesus saw him fishing after his resurrection in John 21? He knew he had messed up. When Peter the fisherman was called by Jesus, what did Jesus say? He said he was going make him a Fisher of men. Peter dropped his net and followed Jesus. So, Jesus was disappointed to see him return to fishing again. "Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these?"

A pastor is to feed from the Church, a thing apostle Paul also approved. If a pastor gets a 9-5 job, he won't be able to have time to study the word of God which he will use to feed his flock. If the church has a serious programme coming up, he might miss it if his company decide to send him on an assignment to another city. Imagine his church is on the mainland and he works at Lekki, think of the traffic he would be facing before he gets to church for a midweek service.

Can you show me where the Bible talked about Peter's life, and him feeding from the church?

You type so well and lengthy, yet you're either making little sense or you're misleading people.
How can you say a pastor is supposed to feed from the Church

In Acts, the people brought as they had and the items were distributed to the poor, and the Bible mentioned that "THEY LACKED NOTHING".

Every pastor should work and lead by example. He should be a servant to his congregation, and not the other way round. Stop encouraging laziness in the church

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by tojahh(m): 7:40am On Nov 17
alBHAGDADI:


A pastor is to feed from the Church, a thing apostle Paul also approved. If a pastor gets a 9-5 job, he won't be able to have time to study the word of God which he will use to feed his flock. If the church has a serious programme coming up, he might miss it if his company decide to send him on an assignment to another city. Imagine his church is on the mainland and he works at Lekki, think of the traffic he would be facing before he gets to church for a midweek service.

Oga.. With this plenty epistles you successfully wrote a bastardized nonsense! Where did Paul asked Pastors to feed from the church sir?

Day go break una go carry English and shallow logic dey sabotage Christianity. If a pastor asked to be paid monthly stipend yes I would pay after all candidates must have avail themselves for interview like it is done on a secular front.

Oh this is why I love Jehovah's Witnesses. Wetin concern them and offering or tithes or seed sowing?

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by NuclearReactor(m): 7:46am On Nov 17
Hmmm

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by alBHAGDADI: 7:54am On Nov 17
izzou:


Can you show me where the Bible talked about Peter's life, and him feeding from the church?

You type so well and lengthy, yet you're either making little sense or you're misleading people.
How can you say a pastor is supposed to feed from the Church

In Acts, the people brought as they had and the items were distributed to the poor, and the Bible mentioned that "THEY LACKED NOTHING".

Every pastor should work and lead by example. He should be a servant to his congregation, and not the other way round. Stop encouraging laziness in the church

You are of the kind I spoke of - always rushing to slam pastors without having full knowledge of the Bible.

I showed you were Jesus was angry at Peter for going back to his profession of fishing, yet you ask this question about Peter? Peter was a Bishop of a Church and had every right to feed of the Church as stated by Paul who revealed that such was also the case in the temple.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Just shut up and quit acting like you know. Who is encouraging laziness in the Church if not you? Your kind are the type that want to see the house of God crumble with no shepherd. You want the pastor to be somewhere else hustling while the sheep starve of the word of God.

God ordained his priests in the Old Testament to feed of the temple. Apostle Paul also confirmed that same thing applies today in the church. But you are here puffed up with your own understanding.

Now, to answer your question about Peter. Nowhere is it written that he engaged in any job after Jesus stopped him from his fishing activities. Or can you point out one job Peter did since then? No you can't. But it is written that Peter preached the gospel and pastored a church. So, clearly, Peter didn't do any job asides being a pastor, or a Fisher of men which Jesus called him to do.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by alBHAGDADI: 8:01am On Nov 17
tojahh:


Oga.. With this plenty epistles you successfully wrote a bastardized nonsense! Where did Paul asked Pastors to feed from the church sir?

Day go break una go carry English and shallow logic dey sabotage Christianity. If a pastor asked to be paid monthly stipend yes I would pay after all candidates must have avail themselves for interview like it is done on a secular front.

Oh this is why I love Jehovah's Witnesses. Wetin concern them and offering or tithes or seed sowing?

You guys are so dumb, stupid and arrogant at it. Look at the silly question you are asking. Yet, one would think you are versed in the Bible before you made the above statement.

You want to know where Paul stated that Pastors are to feed of the church? Look below and cure your ignorance.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


Aaron the High Priest was ordained by God to take his portion from every tithe and offering offered to the temple of God. Paul said above that same thing has been ordained by Jesus for such to be done in his Church.

Mind you, the Jehovah's False Witnesses don't follow the commandments of God, that's why wetin concern them with tithe and offering.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by 0ppa(m): 8:01am On Nov 17
Another religious jargon. I was expecting you to enlighten us on how to know the one true religion and denomination. Jesus said there will be one true one and others will be false; I was expecting you to prove these with scriptural qualifications and not siding against folks who have lost interest in this 'expensive' christianity.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by alBHAGDADI: 8:04am On Nov 17
SirToothBrush:
Hi, alBHA.GDADI, what was Christ's profession?

He was a carpenter, and that same carpenter ordained his followers to live of the gospel.


1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by izzou(m): 8:05am On Nov 17
alBHAGDADI:


You are of the kind I spoke of - always rushing to slam pastors without having full knowledge of the Bible.

I showed you were Jesus was angry at Peter for going back to his profession of fishing, yet you ask this question about Peter? Peter was a Bishop of a Church and had every right to feed of the Church as stated by Paul who revealed that such was also the case in the temple.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.

Just shut up and quit acting like you know. Who is encouraging laziness in the Church if not you? Your kind are the type that want to see the house of God crumble with no shepherd. You want the pastor to be somewhere else hustling while the sheep starve of the word of God.

God ordained his priests in the Old Testament to feed of the temple. Apostle Paul also confirmed that same thing applies today in the church. But you are here puffed up with your own understanding.

Now, to answer your question about Peter. Nowhere is it written that he engaged in any job after Jesus stopped him from his fishing activities. Or can you point out one job Peter did since then? No you can't. But it is written that Peter preached the gospel and pastored a church. So, clearly, Peter didn't do any job asides being a pastor, or a Fisher of men which Jesus called him to do.


It's funny that a whole you, who is against prosperity gospel, is encouraging someone to sleep and wake up at home, hoping people who earn less than $100 come and pay him to eat, in the name of "shepherd". You're pathetic grin

So, if Peter and the other disciples were not working, how were they taking care of their family? There was no gathering then, people were still worshipping in the temple so how were they feeding from the church? Or was Christ paying them salaries?

There are pastors, choir leaders, and so many workers in the church. It takes more than a pastor to get a church service ready. So who pays the others?

Every pastor should work, or have a source of income. If you want to preach about hardworking, you should be practicing it.

You don't have the spirit to understand. You never have, and you never will

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by alBHAGDADI: 8:15am On Nov 17
izzou:



It's funny that a whole you, who is against prosperity gospel, is encouraging someone to sleep and wake up at home, hoping people who earn less than $100 come and pay him to eat, in the name of "shepherd". You're pathetic grin

So, if Peter and the other disciples were not working, how were they taking care of their family? There was no gathering then, people were still worshipping in the temple so how were they feeding from the church? Or was Christ paying them salaries?

There are pastors, choir leaders, and so many workers in the church. It takes more than a pastor to get a church service ready. So who pays the others?

Every pastor should work, or have a source of income. If you want to preach about hardworking, you should be practicing it.

You don't have the spirit to understand. You never have, and you never will

Are you a blind bat? I'm I the one encouraging what I said or it is Paul and Apostle of Jesus Christ that said so? Paul said pastors are to live of the gospel. You are here saying otherwise.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


How did Aaron take care of his family? He did with what he got from what was offered in the temple. That's exactly how Peter and the Apostles were able to care for their family.

Mind you, there was a gathering called Church because the first time Peter preached, they were about a hundred. After he finished preaching, 3000 souls got added to the fold.

I think I have to stop entertaining your arrogant ignorance.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by izzou(m): 8:23am On Nov 17
alBHAGDADI:


Are you a blind bat? I'm I the one encouraging what I said or it is Paul and Apostle of Jesus Christ that said so? Paul said pastors are to live of the gospel. You are here saying otherwise.

1 Corinthians 9:13-14 (KJV)
13 Do ye not know that they which minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? and they which wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?
14 Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.


How did Aaron take care of his family? He did with what he got from what was offered in the temple. That's exactly how Peter and the Apostles were able to care for their family.

Mind you, there was a gathering called Church because the first time Peter preached, they were about a hundred. After he finished preaching, 3000 souls got added to the fold.

I think I have to stop entertaining your arrogant ignorance.

Aaron was a Levite, and like I said, the people as at that time, worshipped in the temple,so there were Levites then.

Again you dodged my question. When Jesus was alive, how were the disciples able to feed, since they were not working? These men had families, so how were they caring for them? Remember, they were not working in the temple

You don't know anything. You will quote Corinthians again and type Aaron. There is nowhere Jesus encourage shepherds to live on the proceeds of their members.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by tojahh(m): 8:29am On Nov 17
alBHAGDADI:


You guys are so dumb, stupid and arrogant at it. Look at the silly question you are asking. Yet, one would think you are versed in the Bible before you made the above statement.

Mind you, the Jehovah's False Witnesses don't follow the commandments of God, that's why wetin concern them with tithe and offering.


Hahaha. I'm sorry sir but you're a joke! So pastors shouldn't work and earn a living?

Okay..
Okay...
Okay...
Who now pays the choir since they are in Gods vineyard? Hahahaha. So pastors are in for the benefits that comes from the church instead of shepherding the whole flock under their care?

Aaron was ordained by God, as a levite to man the temple and teach the word of God to the congregation and take from the offering because he is a LEVITE like Miriam and Ezekiel and their descendants. Abeg are today's pastors LEVITES?grin why are they keen on chopping our money?

Maybe all of us should be Pastors then. grin

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by SultanOfAbia: 8:41am On Nov 17
grin

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Christian1o00: 8:42am On Nov 17
That's it

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Meti99(m): 8:42am On Nov 17
I think those ignorant e-warriors who think they are intelligent just leave we Christians alone..

We go school, we are doing well but we have chosen our ways of lives already.

Bye

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Mokason28: 8:43am On Nov 17
Out of every 100 pastors in Abuja 98 are Fake
Out of every 100 pastors in Nigeria 98 are Fake
Out of every 100 pastors in Africa 98 are Fake
Gullible followers please stay off my mention cause I have Zero tolerance for trollers and E warriors undecided

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Cutehector(m): 8:43am On Nov 17
Total nonsense. If Christians can read their bible and know that God said there will be an influx of fake preachers.
Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by victorazyvictor(m): 8:43am On Nov 17
For anyone to think all pastors are fake is a symptom of deranged brain.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Truefaith: 8:43am On Nov 17


No, not all pastors are fake.




It's just that close to 98% of them are FRAUDS.






Check this issue up with your Bible open at







www.thetruechristianfaith.com
Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Ayoefa: 8:44am On Nov 17
Christianity in Nigeria ie nothing more than a business adventure.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by nineone(m): 8:44am On Nov 17
Opiosko:

*Not All Pastors Are Fake!*
*Not All Pastors Depend On Tithes & Offerings To Survive!*
*Not All Pastors Place Price Tags On Counselling!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Are Into Ministry For Money!*
*Not All Men Of God Take Advantage Of Gullible People!*
*Not All Men Of God Stage Miracles!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Sexually Molest Women!*
*Not All Men Of GOD Are Proud!*
*Not All Prophets Seek Powers From The Devil!*
*Not All Shepherds Lack The Fear Of GOD!*
*Not All Apostles Are Repackaged Herbalists!*
*Not All Pastors Are Denominational Marketers!*
*Not All Pastors Seek Fame By All Means!*

*_GOD called those HE called. Those He called are aware He called them. Those HE did not call are equally aware GOD did not call them_ !!!*

*Stop criticizing All Pastors & Prophets by calling them all manners of derogatory names!*

*There are FAKE Pastors no doubt, just as there are FAKE Engineers, Quack Doctors, Quack Nurses, Quack Lecturers, Teachers, Mechanics, Bankers Lawyers and so on...*

*And There Are FAKE Church Members Too o!*

*Whatever is AUTHENTIC will always have it's COUNTERFEIT! YES... Even Spiritual Assignments Are Not Exempted!*

If you have been a victim of one of those misrepresenting Spiritual Offices, all I can say to you is *SORRY* . *GOD* will fight for you!
But please don't spread your anger, animosity or personal perception about Pastors around.

*Don't let the INNOCENT ONES pay for the sins of your OFFENDERS!*

Pick your *BIBLE,* read, study and depend on the *HOLY SPIRIT* for direction.

Ask *GOD* for answers to your *PRAYERS* if you feel you can't *TRUST* any *Man of GOD* anymore, instead of recruiting people to your school of acrimony due to your experience.

*In your field of endeavor, there are FAKE practitioners too. How would you feel if you are numbered among the PLASTIC ones*

*If you don't want to go to Church, don't!*
*If you don't want to tithe, don't!*
*If you don't want to seek counsel, don't!*
*If you don't believe in MIRACLES, fine* one thing is certain, if you don't work with or for God you will surely work with or for Satan..

Heaven is REAL and Hell is REAL. NO ONE CAN MISS THE TWO so choose wisely.

#Copied.


There's nothing like FAKE pastor. All pastors are real and carry out their lies and deception differently

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Meti99(m): 8:45am On Nov 17
tojahh:


Oga.. With this plenty epistles you successfully wrote a bastardized nonsense! Where did Paul asked Pastors to feed from the church sir?

Day go break una go carry English and shallow logic dey sabotage Christianity. If a pastor asked to be paid monthly stipend yes I would pay after all candidates must have avail themselves for interview like it is done on a secular front.

Oh this is why I love Jehovah's Witnesses. Wetin concern them and offering or tithes or seed sowing?

1Corinthians 9:13
Don't you know that those who serve in the temple get their food from the temple, and that those who serve at the altar share in what is offered on the altar?

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by maryjames9(m): 8:45am On Nov 17
Yes not all of them were originally into it for the money, private jets, cars but at some point their orientation changed and then now 99.99 percent of them are into it for the money, cars, private jets, luxury lifestyles, fame and the people worship they get.

Many of them use the most expensive cars, house, life style and more famous than their church members put together thanks to tithes and offerings. Their children ride super cars, their wives dresses extravagantly, they enjoy free pussi es from gullible members. They enjoy having their portraits litter major streets. They twist the Bible for personal gain and vanity and enforce tithes, seed sowing, first fruits, gate fees.. They shy away from godliness, righteousness and dwell more on worldliness. Many pastors today get loans from banks to buy expensive things, assets, business in London and Dubai and make church account as loan repayment accounts.

Religion today is nothing but business especially Christianity.

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Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Dailyhappenings: 8:45am On Nov 17
Tell that to the fake pastors who depend on tithes for their survival
Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by IMASTEX: 8:46am On Nov 17
Definitely not all. But an issue is generalised when it becomes a trend. Especially with unimaginable percentage.
Re: Not All Pastors Are Fake Or Depend On Tithes For Survival by Odogu9195: 8:47am On Nov 17
Lol ok if you say so

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