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"Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by naptu2: 2:58pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
This Twitter thread by LASEPA addresses two of my greatest criticisms of the agency. 1) They often do not carry the public along when responding to complaints. Sometimes people make complaints and LASEPA might take action based in those complaints, but they often do not tell the complainant the action that they are taking to address the problem. Now the residents will be carried along because the owners of the premises that are shut will need to get a guarantee from the residents association 2) LASEPA usually does not respond to complaints on Twitter. For many years the agency only focused on tweeting about actions that it has taken and about the activities of its general manager. It did not interact with members of the public. That has changed. People tweeted their complaints on this thread and the handler responded to them. PRESS STATEMENT https://twitter.com/LasepaInfo/status/1194558360122732545 1 Like
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Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by naptu2: 2:59pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
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Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by naptu2: 3:02pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Previous thread. Noise Pollution: Lagos State Seals 8 Mosques And Churches https://www.nairaland.com/5536868/noise-pollution-lagos-state-seals |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by Kingosytex(m): 3:09pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
The volume of noise that emanates from most worship centres is legendary. |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by Bola146(f): 3:11pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Good one! |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by HappyPagan: 3:14pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Kingosytex:Because they know there is no God. Like the Baal worshippers, they keep on screaming 'fire' hoping that God will show himself in their life. But the only show that goes on is the pastor getting rich off their prayer points. 2 Likes |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by afroniger: 3:17pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
Very good. All those noise pollutants need to be taught a serious lesson. The rubbish is becoming too much. Kudos to LASEPA. Op, thanks for the update. 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by izzou(m): 3:22pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
LASEPA doesn't need people to complain at all. Let them drive around Lagos and seize any speakers found outside I have three churches on my street and they are not helping issues. I always pray for dawn once it's Friday night.... Especially last Fridays of the month |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by sexycat: 3:40pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
izzou: Is it not better to have churches on your street than to have withches and wizard meeting point at every pole on your street. you better choose one now ooo because you can't have it all, as soon as churches are under lock and key , the witches will find their spots there |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by dfrost: 8:36pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
naptu2: naptu2222222222222... it can only be you. Rushing down to Twitter now. The flats behind me needs to be on lockdown. |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by dfrost: 8:37pm On Nov 19, 2019 |
sexycat: Werey ree 1 Like |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by Mustay(m): 1:05am On Nov 20, 2019 |
A guarantee by the residents does not make sense, just enforce the law. What if residents want the road to be blocked for a party? Will they relax the law on that? It only takes a few bucks to influence the residents association for a business that thrives on noise. What if most of the residents belong to a religion whose house makes noise, does that mean the few have no say? Who thought of this #NoToReopeningWithoutResidentsAssent 1 Like |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by MetaPhysical: 1:26am On Nov 20, 2019 |
There are plenty noise nuisance and pollutants here in Nairaland. LASEPA is needed to shut all the vuvuzelas across the Niger. Wait, let me hail my brothers small.... Igbo Kwenu! Igbo Kwenu!! Igbo Kwenu!!! Igbo Kwenuo zuo. Indomitable LIONS of the African Continent! |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by MetaPhysical: 1:28am On Nov 20, 2019 |
sexycat: Let them hear you. Yanga sleep... |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by futurerex: 1:40am On Nov 20, 2019 |
Maka why naa? Make nna free them abeg, I don't know when last I made use of my alarm because all the mosques around me are always on standby to do the needful. 1 Like
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Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by naptu2: 3:18am On Nov 20, 2019 |
Mustay: Here's the reason for this policy (although I think it should be #NoToReopeningWithoutComplainantsAssent. Often times people complain to LASEPA and LASEPA goes to inspect the premises without informing the complainant. If necessary, LASEPA issues a warning to the defaulter without informing the complainant. If the defaulter continues to break the law, then LASEPA seals the premises. However, after a period of time, if the defaulter takes steps to comply with the law, for example, removing the offending loudspeakers and signing an undertaking that he won't break the law, then LASEPA might reopen the premises. Some defaulters wait a few months and then start to break the law again. This practice makes a lot of people to believe that LASEPA is not effective. I have spoken to a lot of people who believe that LASEPA does not respond to their complaints. This is because LASEPA has not carried them along and informed them of the actions that they are taking. This is an attempt to keep the stakeholders, i.e. the residents that are complaining, in the loop. Although, like I said, I believe that they should seek feedback from the complainant, not the residents' association. Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about. This woman was persistent, but not many people are as persistent. She reported a church to LASEPA. They came and inspected the church, but they did not tell her the result of their inspection. The church continued to disturb the neighbourhood. She made many more reports, but nothing changed. Then she took matters into her own hands. She went to complain directly at the church, but they then used her as a prayer point. She documented all the actions that she had taken and sent them to LASEPA. Finally, one day, the church announced that they were changing the venue of their midnight services because someone kept reporting them to LASEPA. https://www.nairaland.com/5170712/woman-reports-noisy-church-lasepa#78125208 2 Likes |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by naptu2: 4:42am On Nov 20, 2019 |
I totally forgot that I created this thread earlier this year. This is one of the funniest and most courageous examples of citizens fighting against noise pollution. This girl couldn't sleep because a church kept disturbing the neighbourhood all night long, so she anonymously filed a complaint with LASEPA. LASEPA did not give her any feedback, but she discovered that they had taken action because the church started praying against the people that were reporting them to LASEPA. They did not stop their noisy midnight services, instead, during those services, they prayed against the people that were reporting them to LASEPA. The girl was fed up of their noise, so she confronted them. They didn't treat her well. She recorded details of her encounter with the church and sent them to LASEPA. Finally, the church announced that they were moving their night services to another location because someone kept reporting them to LASEPA. Some Twitter users attacked her on the thread and I love the fact that she was able to stand her ground. www.nairaland.com/attachments/9325117_2019050515_12_24_jpeg4cac2fb9d61903be1f2f1eaf9b584269 https://www.nairaland.com/5170712/woman-reports-noisy-church-lasepa#78125208 1 Like |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by Mustay(m): 3:56pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
naptu2: We have a serious problem with our way of thinking and this is where LASEPA and any info agency can start appealing to the minds of Lagosians because those who make the noise don't know how it affects others. Some people have died, others can't sleep and we have those who have hearing loss. And we wonder why there are many aggressive people in Lagos. People are channeling their grievances to others. Anyway that's an aside. For your example, that's what is expected. I have monitored shows where LASEPA officials come on air and the consensus is the same when they bring this issue up - 90% of the people don't feel they do anything concrete. Normally, people should be able to follow up online or through text services. Online, people can submit evidences with timestamp of the incidence. Not everything Twitter. My problem with the hashtag is that we are interpreting the law to give permission and this is why they say presence of laws is not our problem, absence of enforcement is. Let them include this clause in the law because you and I know that there are vested interests everywhere so saying you need an assent is a loophole. The resident can be bribed to shut up. After all, it's this same Lagos unapproved buildings get built and some officials will act like superman when it collapses and kills people. What if the complainant dies? Reporting is even people helping them do their jobs - offence that they ought to be using to make money from. If you are a repeat offender, they increase the fine you pay for violating the law and 3rd offence or more can lead to closure or suspension of licence or whatever. Man must chop, when you deny them the avenue to enjoy, they will comply. |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by naptu2: 4:31pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
Mustay: I think I need to make something clear. The guarantee from the residents association is not an alternative to LASEPA enforcement. LASEPA will still monitor and enforce the law. Again, a guarantee from the residents association is not a license to break the law. The residents live in the neighbourhood and are able to monitor the premises 24 hours a day, which is something that LASEPA cannot do. So they are saying that in addition to all the conditions that you must meet in order for your premises to be reopened, you must also get a guarantee from the residents. Therefore, for example, if your premises is shut for 6 months and they are meant to reopen it after 6 months, they won't reopen it until you show them a guarantee from the residents association. Therefore, even if you bribe the residents association, your premises will still be shut if you break the law and it will remain shut until you meet the other requirements (e.g, soundproofing generators and halls, removing external speakers, etc.). The guarantee is not a permission to break the law. Most of the complaints that LASEPA gets are from residents associations and most times the defaulters do not care about the complainants (see the example of the girl that I posted earlier), so what LASEPA is saying is that you need to respect the rights of your neighbours and this is one way to ensure that they do respect their neighbours. |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by tck2000(m): 4:46pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
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Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by Blue3k(m): 4:47pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
These guys should learn to limit their activity to a certain decibel. Im surprised fines dont dissuade these people. Im guessing they're probably not paying that much compared to what they're raking in. 1 Like |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by Xisnin(m): 4:52pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
izzou:They can't do that because they are a legal agency. They work by the law and not jungle justice. If you are too fearful to report noise polluters in your street, then enjoy the noise! |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by helinues: 4:53pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
Good |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by plaindealer: 4:58pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
If I ruled the world, I'll ban religion altogether. |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by ZankuB: 5:45pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
[s] helinues:[/s] |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by grandstar(m): 6:48pm On Nov 20, 2019 |
Blue3k: Please tell them. You'll see a 20 person church with a loudspeaker outside, the noise emanating from it able to drown the horn of a trailer. It is irritating. They feel they can get away with murder using the sanctity of religion. (Matthew 7:21-23) The same Bible urges us to give to Caeser what belongs to him. The government condemns such noise as it constitutes a nuisance to the neighborhood. The same Bible also admonishes us to love our brother as we love ourselves. They clearly aren't following that command |
Re: "Churches/Mosques Won't Be Reopened Without Residents' Guarantee" - LASEPA by naptu2: 4:16am On Nov 21, 2019 |
Contact the Lagos State Environmental Protection Agency (LASEPA) Website: http://www.lasepa.gov.ng/contactus.htm http://www.lasepa.gov.ng/report/contact.php email: info@lasepa.gov.ng pro@lasepa.gov.ng Twitter: @LasepaInfo LASEPA phone no: +234-704-635-1295 +234-815-045-8639 +234-815-045-8638
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