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Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Derajoyce(f): 10:26am On Nov 20, 2019
Perhaps the mishap of being born Christian is the little choice over the matter of becoming Christian and gross familiarity with religion.
However, at some point, it becomes imperative to choose a relationship with God over religious practices.
Ironically, to the twisted egotistical human, practices appeal more than intimacy. As it feels the empty void hard work enjoys occupying.
As with any thriving relationship, the need for allotted time and constant communication are the foundation to anything beautiful.

To speak plainly.

Over this year, I’ve been studying the word, swinging from mildly passive to swiftly intensive.
The insights into the ways of God is bewildering.
There are patterns everywhere; the unpredictability of God; the diverse ways he deals with the same issues in different people.
The oneness of God, splintered into many different parts to serve the milieu of difference that roams the earth.
Here’s what I know for sure, Sundays and Wednesdays give a little over 5% of the knowledge in the Word.
Twice a week doesn’t cut it for the level of understanding required.

Here’s what I’ve learned about God thus far.
He’s all about relationship.
He wants to hear everything from the deep-seated sorrowful woes to the secret anger and tiny transgressions here and there.
He could care less about your works.
The trick is, once the relationship is in place, the flesh’s hunger is submerged and in most cases, completely eradicated. No one likes to hurt the people they love.
It’s a process.
No pressure. No judgment.

He understands.
It appears only your pastor or perhaps, your spouse or partner aspects perfection.
God doesn’t. By the way, He’s totally aware of your craziness and all things you struggle with.
He’s big on details. I’ve never gotten over the hair numbering thing.
All I know for sure is, He knows I’m big on convenience and He takes care of the details, all of them, in all aspects.

He’s super invested in revealing your identity.
He wants you to know who you are, what you carry, what you can do, whose you are and what you’re entitled to.
He despises small-minded prayers and folks with trust issues.

He’s got time. He listens, always.

He’s a teacher and there’s definitely no skipping classes with him.
You’ve got to learn the lesson to move forward, else, risk dancing around the same mountain.
O boy, the classes I’m repeating...
He will be your teacher and then, you private tutor. You could always ask for help about everything; your job, your business, your relationships and everything in-between.
No pressure. No judgment.
Humility is needed though...
He’s comical and a tat sarcastic.
Some of His responses are hilarious. You just gotta love Him.

The God I’m learning about, who I prefer to refer to as Daddy is undeniably multifaceted, thrilling, sweet, generous, funny, creative and overwhelming all at the same time. Here's the best part, He reveals Himself to fill the need you have.
There’s much more but I get mad at Him too, often.
Then, we settle, rather I come to myself.
It’s back and forth.
The love though, remains on a hundred.
He’s not confused about how He feels about me; what He wants for me; what He has in store for me and what He can do through me.

That's the keyword, not CONFUSED.

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by nlPoster: 10:49am On Nov 20, 2019
What do you know about God as opposed to what you learnt about him?

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Derajoyce(f): 11:06am On Nov 20, 2019
nlPoster:
What do you know about God as opposed to what you learnt about him?
The views I shared are part of the things I know about God.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Eviana(f): 11:54am On Nov 20, 2019
First, I respect your right to your opinion.
You've said some very interesting and true things about the Lord.
That's awesome that you are getting to truly know Him for yourself...aside from just tradition.
Just hoping that in your "knowing", you aren't removing yourself from the body of Christ.
I wonder though, if by saying the following: "He despises small prayers and people with trust issues", you meant people with small dreams, small faith?
Because folks could misinterpet that statement if you meant differently than what I wrote.
Just wondering why you used the word "mishap" of being born into a Christian home?
If you had been born into another religion, would that have been a mishap also?
Are you referring to "religion" as a whole as a mishap?
However, in light of getting to truly know Him personally, through relationship, and gaining peace from your Heavenly Father, wouldn't it be more appropriate to change "worst" to "best"?

John 10:10 (KJV)
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Trust me, when you have had enough experiences in life, there will be a lot of "worst" things to come which will require that faith in your newfound relationship with the Lord.

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by LordReed(m): 12:41pm On Nov 21, 2019
God, the ultimate ego mirror. The big egos have a big god while the humble egos have a humble god while the confused egos vacillate between the 2.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by nlPoster: 12:55pm On Nov 21, 2019
If you are not a Christian the thread is not for you.

It's not everything that requires your input.

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Fortissimo502: 12:56pm On Nov 21, 2019
Well said, Derajoyce. Well said. Sent you a pm. Also noticed your blog isn't up anymore. Wanted to check your other posts.

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Blabbermouth: 12:56pm On Nov 21, 2019
LordReed:
God, the ultimate ego mirror. The big egos have a big god while the humble egos have a humble god while the confused egos vacillate between the 2.
Your days are numbered.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Blabbermouth: 1:01pm On Nov 21, 2019
Derajoyce:
........
Were you born a Christian?
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by LordReed(m): 1:11pm On Nov 21, 2019
Blabbermouth:

Your days are numbered.

So are yours.

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Derajoyce(f): 3:30pm On Nov 21, 2019
Heyy, I stopped blogging a while ago. I’m not sure how the pm works here. I’ll definitely check my email.
Fortissimo502:
Well said, Derajoyce. Well said. Sent you a pm. Also noticed your blog isn't up anymore. Wanted to check your other posts.

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Derajoyce(f): 3:40pm On Nov 21, 2019
Yes, I was. Although the early exposure to Christianity came through my family, my perceived representation about God from the church we attended spurred cynicism rather than intimacy.
Blabbermouth:

Were you born a Christian?
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Derajoyce(f): 3:46pm On Nov 21, 2019
Thanks for your comment. I realize most of things I said can and will be taken out of context. I’ll simply reiterate that these are bits of my observations thus far. I strongly believe that my relationship with God might not be exact relationship with someone else and that’s normal. He reveals himself to us based on our capacity to understand and receive.
Eviana:
First, I respect your right to your opinion.
You've said some very interesting and true things about the Lord.
That's awesome that you are getting to truly know Him for yourself...aside from just tradition.
Just hoping that in your "knowing", you aren't removing yourself from the body of Christ.
I wonder though, if by saying the following: "He despises small prayers and people with trust issues", you meant people with small dreams, small faith?
Because folks could misinterpet that statement if you meant differently than what I wrote.
Just wondering why you used the word "mishap" of being born into a Christian home?
If you had been born into another religion, would that have been a mishap also?
Are you referring to "religion" as a whole as a mishap?
However, in light of getting to truly know Him personally, through relationship, and gaining peace from your Heavenly Father, wouldn't it be more appropriate to change "worst" to "best"?

John 10:10 (KJV)
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Trust me, when you have had enough experiences in life, there will be a lot of "worst" things to come which will require that faith in your newfound relationship with the Lord.

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by LilMissFavvy(f): 4:25pm On Nov 21, 2019
Great piece, tho I don't understand what you mean by ''He could care less about your works''. If the works you are referring to are the religious roles and inputs a Christian should partake of in church, then i can only tell you that they are very important and God places value on Such works.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Fortissimo502: 4:30pm On Nov 21, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
Great piece, tho I don't understand what you mean by ''He could care less about your works''. If the works you are referring to are the religious roles and inputs a Christian should partake of in church, then i can only tell you that they are very important and God places value on Such works.

I believe what she means is that God doesn't respond to you or love you based on your works. God responds primarily based on our faith in Him (He loves us regardless though). Naturally, someone who has faith in God, will do works. But it should be clear that you aren't working to earn favors from God but because you have faith in Him. That is, you aren't working from the "flesh".

Derajoyce let me know if I misunderstood you.

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by LilMissFavvy(f): 4:43pm On Nov 21, 2019
Well........ these things work differently for us all. I particularly have suffered some delays and problems in times past, simply because I was not interested in participating in such ''works''. I wasn't interested in joining any department in church, but was very conscious of keeping a relationship with God as much as I could. Till I was told what God feels about my lazy attitude. I guess a little balance is what is needed.... thanks.
Fortissimo502:


I believe what she means is that God doesn't respond to you or love you based on your works. God responds primarily based on our faith in Him (He loves us regardless though). Naturally, someone who has faith in God, will do works. But it should be clear that you aren't working to earn favors from God but because you have faith in Him. That is, you aren't working from the "flesh".

Derajoyce let me know if I misunderstood you.

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Fortissimo502: 4:53pm On Nov 21, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
Well........ these things work differently for us all. I particularly have suffered some delays and problems in times past, simply because I was not interested in participating in such ''works''. I wasn't interested in joining any department in church, but was very conscious of keeping a relationship with God as much as I could. Till I was told what God feels about my lazy attitude. I guess a little balance is what is needed.... thanks.

There are so many questions I'd like to ask you to probe and really understand what you mean by the parts in bold, but it's probably going to be long drawn out. Regardless I'm glad your relationship with God is number 1. That's the most important thing so long the relationship is understood properly.

Honestly I don't believe "these things work differently for us all". Truth is truth and we should never ever try to tailor it to what suits us or what works for us. What I do know is that we are all in different stages of growth which is why it might appear that "these things work differently for us all".

That's why I said that the koko is accepting Jesus and keep seeking His kingdom. Everything else will fall into place eventually.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by nlPoster: 5:03pm On Nov 21, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
Till I was told what God feels about my lazy attitude.


What God feels or what the people you move with feel?

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by LilMissFavvy(f): 5:30pm On Nov 21, 2019
The ''works'' as I mentioned above is done based on our different callings. We know our calling(s) simply by the gifts of God in us, the gifts are different........Ist Corin. 4-13, Rom. 12:4-down.

We saw the case of Jonah, God was so serious on Jonah doing the work he was sent to do. It is possible for a believer to be focused on having a relationship with God yet abandoning his gifts/works, the consequences may be fatal, or mild, depending on maybe ''mercy'' , etc, thats why i said it works differently. Some may abandon their spiritual gifts/works and are still living without consequences, while others are tracked down by God, like Jonah. So it's better to have a balance, as you place importance on having a relationship with God, carry his works along.

Atimes a change of church could help, if a Christian notices that his church isn't helpful.

Cc. Fortissimo502

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Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by LilMissFavvy(f): 5:34pm On Nov 21, 2019
God.
nlPoster:



What God feels or what the people you move with feel?
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by nlPoster: 5:42pm On Nov 21, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
God.

You know that how?
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by LilMissFavvy(f): 5:53pm On Nov 21, 2019
Would you believe a prophetic message especially if it were to come repeatedly from different sources? Do you believe in revelations? If yes, then you will understand my message, if no, then you will not.
nlPoster:


You know that how?
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by nlPoster: 6:12pm On Nov 21, 2019
LilMissFavvy:
Would you believe a prophetic message especially if it were to come repeatedly from different sources? Do you believe in revelations? If yes, then you will understand my message, if no, then you will not.

ok, good for you.

God speaks in mysterious ways.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Derajoyce(f): 11:07pm On Nov 21, 2019
Absolutely!
You hit the nail on the head.
Fortissimo502:


I believe what she means is that God doesn't respond to you or love you based on your works. God responds primarily based on our faith in Him (He loves us regardless though). Naturally, someone who has faith in God, will do works. But it should be clear that you aren't working to earn favors from God but because you have faith in Him. That is, you aren't working from the "flesh".

Derajoyce let me know if I misunderstood you.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by nlPoster: 11:22pm On Nov 21, 2019
Derajoyce:
Yes, I was. Although the early exposure to Christianity came through my family, my perceived representation about God from the church we attended spurred cynicism rather than intimacy.


People can cause that.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Derajoyce(f): 11:40pm On Nov 21, 2019
Hey there,
I’d love to have a discussion with you. I believe we could learn from each other.
I personally don’t have all the answers and I mentioned, some of what I say would be taken out of context and that’s totally fine. However, I’d like to address the following for better clarity:
Boldness: we are the children of God and as his children, we ought to know our place in his eyes. There should never be reason for us to feel undeserving or of God’s love and forgiveness; or ashamed to come before him because of something we did wrong or didn’t do. Once you receive understanding of who you are and whose you are, fear, self pity, shame and all the other vices that seek to make us timid before God loses power over us. Not to say we won’t feel these emotions sometimes but the key here is in KNOWING.
Works: it’s important to know the difference between purpose and works of the flesh. We all have different purposes and gifts to serve our purpose. Once you’re inline with God, He’ll give you the strength, courage, wisdom and whatever you need to fulfill that purpose. However, He might not reveal it all at once because more than anything, He wants a relationship with you; constant communication, trust and faith in him.
Works of the flesh is believing we ought to do something to earn God’s love, forgiveness or favor. First of all, none of us can earn anything from God. All we have are free gifts from God. You do acts of service from a place of gratitude and a desire to serve and not to prove a point or earn goodies.
You’re right, TRUTH is TRUTH. However, God reveals himself to us differently, in the way we would understand. I’d encourage you to ask the Holy Spirit for guidance over all matters including this long epistle I just wrote.
Fortissimo502:


There are so many questions I'd like to ask you to probe and really understand what you mean by the parts in bold, but it's probably going to be long drawn out. Regardless I'm glad your relationship with God is number 1. That's the most important thing so long the relationship is understood properly.

Honestly I don't believe "these things work differently for us all". Truth is truth and we should never ever try to tailor it to what suits us or what works for us. What I do know is that we are all in different stages of growth which is why it might appear that "these things work differently for us all".

That's why I said that the koko is accepting Jesus and keep seeking His kingdom. Everything else will fall into place eventually.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Fortissimo502: 4:16am On Nov 22, 2019
Derajoyce, I agree with pretty much everything you said. I think you may have misread my post. I was replying to LilMissFavvy.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by OkCornel(m): 5:19am On Nov 22, 2019
OP, you’re on point!
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Derajoyce(f): 6:37am On Nov 22, 2019
Lol I actually realized that after I was done typing. Yo, couldn’t let it go to waste. smiley
Fortissimo502:
Derajoyce, I agree with pretty much everything you said. I think you may have misread my post. I was replying to LilMissFavvy.
Re: Perhaps The Worst Thing For A Christian Is To Be Born Into A Christian Home by Fortissimo502: 8:28am On Nov 22, 2019
Derajoyce:
Lol I actually realized that after I was done typing. Yo, couldn’t let it go to waste. smiley

Lol nothing do you jare.

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