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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 3:11am On Nov 26, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 7:25am On Nov 26, 2019
twinskenny:


3 bedroom bungalow or duplex please be specific

The prices of materials are a bit high... including the price of cable.

Where is your location?

I even thought those prices of cables were too cheap. 16mm for 700 naira per yard. I think
Coleman sells 1.5mm for about 10k or so. Purechem 8k..
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 7:36am On Nov 26, 2019
Hamthablow:
Good evening builders in the house, please from the attached roof plane can you please tell me the size in square meter and the cost of roofing with 0.55mm Metecopo Aluminium?

Cost of your aluminium covering depends on your woodwork.
Although I can't see the drawing clearly, its estimated to cost between 700-800k.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 7:39am On Nov 26, 2019
Udometuk5103:
Please can someone advise me on how to go about iron roofing trusses on a small block of 16.5*11.5 sqr metres?

You would be using angle irons for rafters and Z-purlins as purlins.
A quote would require more details.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 7:41am On Nov 26, 2019
Timmie101:
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soil test helps to know whether there will be need for piling or not.
The report will also be used for your building approval
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 8:31am On Nov 26, 2019
KolaShangOne:


I even thought those prices of cables were too cheap. 16mm for 700 naira per yard. I think
Coleman sells 1.5mm for about 10k or so. Purechem 8k..
no sir price is low now.. 1.5mm is 5k

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by emman44(m): 12:12pm On Nov 26, 2019
kopell:
Can you share little Infor in regards to how the diegester works, without evacuation. Does it have any mechanical system in it.
Reply: The system does a fast separation of solid and liquid... The Digester is two layers 1. The upper layer where the all degradable material are been digested
2. Lower layer where the water is been filter and go out to the pit created for dry land and drainage or canal for high water level....

The upper layers consist of fibre which create micro-organism in thousands that feed on the waste while the lower layer consist of filters that make the water going out odourless and environmental friendly....

Note: sewage Diegester does not produce gas

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by emman44(m): 12:28pm On Nov 26, 2019
PrinceLat:


So far so good, this sounds interesting on "the surface", can you please explain further in clear terms the advantages of this Diegester over the popular septic tank.

Some of us are at this stage, a better alternative would be welcomed.

Cost comparison too, should suffice , every available information should be shared here for all to make informed decision.

And please don't forget to tell us what happens after 25 years.

By the time you're done, you won't be asking us to call you, if you succeed in convincing us........ We would be the ones to ask for your details and introduce you to our friends as well.

Thanks

Reply: Advantage of sewage Diegester
1. No odour
2. No evacuation,
3. Little space required
4. Cheaper than the spetic tank

Disadvantage
The use of condoms and sanitary pads.. But if it is for hotel we have another design for that..

Note : 25years is just the warranty we are giving, the Digester can be effective more than 50year.. If we are to do any maintenace from the little little particles create over the years we just have to remove the slab and change the fibre.....

Thanks
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ak22(m): 7:28pm On Nov 26, 2019
Good evening every engineer in the house

Can someone explain this to me please

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by abdulwastecx(m): 7:53pm On Nov 26, 2019
diordaves:


This is good to know. So what are the parameters or intervening variables one would need to calculate settlement outcomes?

A detailed soil test with at least one borehole point of not less than 30m deep, soil samples taking from this borehole is then taken to the lab to estimate the cohesion and angle of friction for each soil strata (layers). Together with the structural design, the settlement can then easily be estimated.

If I walked into your office with my structural drawings and location, can you then calculate the degree of settlement?
Yes, sir. Provided you also have a detailed soil test.

When I read your response, with this knowledge, I went through my various structural drawing plans but no where is the rate of settlement included in the drawings.
[font=Lucida Sans Unicode]It was not included due to the fact that settlement was not assumed to be of critical design criteria. This is true for most shallow pad footings resting on relatively coarse soil with little clay content and load but for a massive shallow foundation like a raft footing where the settlement of the settlement is as important as the bearing shear such calculations are actually included.

I would think, this information should be included in the structural drawings that would go through certification.
It is not compulsory for most certification needed for most building approval sir

We have seen beautifully executed building suffering untoward settlement over time which tells me corners have been cut. This information tell me, untoward settlement can be avoided with due diligence.

1. You will need to have a detailed soil test with at least one borehole test of not less than 30m, soil samples taking from this borehole test is then taken to the lab to estimate the cohesion and angle of friction for each soil strata (layers). Together with the structural design, the settlement can then be easily estimated.
diordaves:


This is good to know. So what are the parameters or intervening variables one would need to calculate settlement outcomes?

If I walked into your office with my structural drawings and location, can you then calculate the degree of settlement?

When I read your response, with this knowledge, I went through my various structural drawing plans but no where is the rate of settlement included in the drawings.

I would think, this information should be included in the structural drawings that would go through certification.

We have seen beautifully executed building suffering untoward settlement over time which tells me corners have been cut. This information tell me, untoward settlement can be avoided with due diligence.
It can be avoided if the appropriate design considerations are assumed and adequately check against during the foundation design stage. All building settled but there is a limit to which such settlement impaired on plumbing, electrical, or other functionality( serviceability problem) or totally unfit to use ( Ultimate limit state). I always check against settlement for all the isolated pad footing of a foundation over expansive clay to know the differential settlement of the pad ( uniform settlement is more desirable than a differential settlement for pad footing). For a raft footing, it is compulsory to check settlement for the foundation.

1. You will need to have a detailed soil test with at least one borehole test of not less than 30m, soil samples taking from this borehole test is then taken to the lab to estimate the cohesion and angle of friction for each soil strata (layers). Together with your structural design you can then es

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Olazzeedris(m): 11:00pm On Nov 26, 2019
ak22:
Good evening every engineer in the house

Can someone explain this to me please





what you have is called bill of quantity
Colomn A is for cutting of land area cover 849 m3

colomn B is for Filling of the land area covers 206 m3

ditto to others

Then you multiply by the unit rate provided for eash items.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Zino89: 11:22pm On Nov 26, 2019
Please is this quotation OK for a four bedroom flat foundation?

1ton of 16mm #205,000, 1ton of 12mm #205,000. 50 lengths of 10 mm @1,500= #55,000. 30 ton of Granite #150,000. 2 bundle of Binding wire #18,000. 2bags of nail #16,000. 130psc of 2*3 @ 250= #35,500. 200psc of 1 *12 planks @1,150 =#230,000. 3 sharp sand @ 37,000 = #111,000 . 100 peg @150 = #15,000 Total for materials #1,040,000

Cement not included



Workmanship, pilling, pegin, carpenter, iron bender and casting #400, 000
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by timesup234: 1:55am On Nov 27, 2019
Zino89:
Please is this quotation OK for a four bedroom flat foundation?

1ton of 16mm #205,000, 1ton of 12mm #205,000. 50 lengths of 10 mm @1,500= #55,000. 30 ton of Granite #150,000. 2 bundle of Binding wire #18,000. 2bags of nail #16,000. 130psc of 2*3 @ 250= #35,500. 200psc of 1 *12 planks @1,150 =#230,000. 3 sharp sand @ 37,000 = #111,000 . 100 peg @150 = #15,000 Total for materials #1,040,000

Cement not included



Workmanship, pilling, pegin, carpenter, iron bender and casting #400, 000
are you building a duplex or bungalow?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 6:49am On Nov 27, 2019
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 7:57am On Nov 27, 2019
ak22:
Good evening every engineer in the house

Can someone explain this to me please



Well.

That's an unpriced bill.

You're expected to quote for it using the detailed explanation of works (on the left) and the quantities (right).

Add your fees, contingencies and arrive at a total sum.

Eg.
Item E.
600mm thick paving stone laid on......... Etc

308m²

The question is how much would you do 1m² of paving block.? Let's assume it's 550 naira per paving block.

Draw 2 lines in front of the table, label the first *RATE (N)* and the second *TOTAL (N)*

under rage write 550, under total write 169,400 (ie 550 x 308).

Do that for all items.

Add your supervision fees, VAT, contingencies etc

*Final Note*

Your rate should include materials and labour cost

For Item F.

1. How much would you charge to produce 1m of Kerbs (you'll be given the design or propose one)

2. The Kerbs must pass a concrete test (cube test) after 28 days to the required strength stated in the bill.. Ie 21Nsqm

3. How much would you charge to install the kerb per meter.

4. Add profit and attendance

5. What's the total cost of production and installation??

Multiply your total cost to produce 1m of Kerbs by 17m (total length needed)

Goodluck

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 8:01am On Nov 27, 2019
Zino89:
Please is this quotation OK for a four bedroom flat foundation?

1ton of 16mm #205,000, 1ton of 12mm #205,000. 50 lengths of 10 mm @1,500= #55,000. 30 ton of Granite #150,000. 2 bundle of Binding wire #18,000. 2bags of nail #16,000. 130psc of 2*3 @ 250= #35,500. 200psc of 1 *12 planks @1,150 =#230,000. 3 sharp sand @ 37,000 = #111,000 . 100 peg @150 = #15,000 Total for materials #1,040,000

Cement not included



Workmanship, pilling, pegin, carpenter, iron bender and casting #400, 000

Where is your land located... Obviously from the quote it shd be Ajah, Lekki or any other waterlogged area.

Can you share the plan

Note.. Doesn't look excessive for a waterlogged land.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ak22(m): 9:08am On Nov 27, 2019
saydfact:


Well.

That's an unpriced bill.

You're expected to quote for it usinbiog the detailed explanation of works (on the left) and the quantities (right).

Add your fees, contingencies and arrive at a total sum.

Eg.
Item E.
600mm thick paving stone laid on......... Etc

308m²

The question is how much would you do 1m² of paving block.? Let's assume it's 550 naira per paving block.

Draw 2 lines in front of the table, label the first *RATE (N)* and the second *TOTAL (N)*

under rage write 550, under total write 169,400 (ie 550 x 308).

Do that for all items.

Add your supervision fees, VAT, contingencies etc

*Final Note*

Your rate should include materials and labour cost

For Item F.

1. How much would you charge to produce 1m of Kerbs (you'll be given the design or propose one)

2. The Kerbs must pass a concrete test (cube test) after 28 days to the required strength stated in the bill.. Ie 21Nsqm

3. How much would you charge to install the kerb per meter.

4. Add profit and attendance

5. What's the total cost of production and installation??

Multiply your total cost to produce 1m of Kerbs by 17m (total length needed)

Goodluck

You are the best thanks and thank all.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Zino89: 10:01am On Nov 27, 2019
timesup234:
are you building a duplex or bungalow?
its a bungalow
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Zino89: 10:05am On Nov 27, 2019
saydfact:


Where is your land located... Obviously from the quote it shd be Ajah, Lekki or any other waterlogged area.

Can you share the plan

Note.. Doesn't look excessive for a waterlogged land.
it is located at iyana isashi .....
The land is a bit swampy

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 10:30am On Nov 27, 2019
Zino89:
it is located at iyana isashi .....
The land is a bit swampy

From quick approximate calculations.

16mm of 1 tonne is OK.

10mm of 50 length is short, I got about 105 lengths using 1200mm raft height and 250c/c (ask him for the raft height and spacing he plan to use - anything less is not ideal)

12mm - what does he need it for? If it's for German floor matt, he shd use 10mm at 175mm spacing and buy 1 tonne.

1by12 by calculation I got about 140 pcs without waste, so buy 160pcs instead of 200pcs.

I'm OK with others...

Note... The workman's quote is sincere. I'll advice you give him the job.

Goodluck

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 4:03pm On Nov 27, 2019
saydfact:


From quick approximate calculations.

16mm of 1 tonne is OK.

10mm of 50 length is short, I got about 105 lengths using 1200mm raft height and 250c/c (ask him for the raft height and spacing he plan to use - anything less is not ideal)

12mm - what does he need it for? If it's for German floor matt, he shd use 10mm at 175mm spacing and buy 1 tonne.

1by12 by calculation I got about 140 pcs without waste, so buy 160pcs instead of 200pcs.

I'm OK with others...

Note... The workman's quote is sincere. I'll advice you give him the job.

Goodluck
U should rather be asking what he needs 16mm for in a bungalow?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 4:05pm On Nov 27, 2019
Zino89:
its a bungalow
If u are building a bungalow, why am i seeing 16mm when u can use 12mm?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 4:20pm On Nov 27, 2019
Rubbiish:

If u are building a bungalow, why am i seeing 16mm when u can use 12mm?
y not ask him to do a structural drawing
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 4:23pm On Nov 27, 2019
tevanso:
y not ask him to do a structural drawing
Is structural drawings for bungalows necessary?
Structural drawings for bungalow is not required for building approval
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 4:33pm On Nov 27, 2019
Rubbiish:

If u are building a bungalow, why am i seeing 16mm when u can use 12mm?


I think he included pilling in his post.

The question to ask is what is the nature/type of the land..

Cc..Zino89
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by tevanso(m): 4:35pm On Nov 27, 2019
Rubbiish:

Is structural drawings for bungalows necessary?
Structural drawings for bungalow is not required for building approval
not for approval, but to avoid guess work and accuracy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rubbiish(m): 4:38pm On Nov 27, 2019
bixton:



I think he included pilling in his post.

The question to ask is what is the nature/type of the land..

Cc..Zino89
Just saw it now
Pile foundation for a bungalow, is the land that bad? cc Zino89
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Zino89: 5:15pm On Nov 27, 2019
bixton:



I think he included pilling in his post.

The question to ask is what is the nature/type of the land..

Cc..Zino89
yes he included pilling .the land is mini swamp
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Zino89: 5:34pm On Nov 27, 2019
Rubbiish:

Just saw it now
Pile foundation for a bungalow, is the land that bad? cc Zino89
its not that bad
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Zino89: 5:35pm On Nov 27, 2019
Rubbiish:

If u are building a bungalow, why am i seeing 16mm when u can use 12mm?
i wonder oooo
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 5:58pm On Nov 27, 2019
Rubbiish:

U should rather be asking what he needs 16mm for in a bungalow?

LOL..... Well... He needs it sir.

Regards

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