rexosazy:


This really wickedness of the highest order. The Fulani- Hausa herdsmen were never this inhumane 2 decades ago. Where is the hope for agriculture and food sustainability in Nigeria? This incessant farmland destruction by herdsmen is discouraging for prospective farmers, especially the youths. Moringa does quite better in the north than other rain forest parts in Nigeria. The way forward is think security before even starting a farm in the North

Honestly, speechless.
Wonder what is stopping powers that be from closing the borders against the blood sucking herdsmen in favour of national security and agriculture they act like they care about.
Such hopelessness, all manner of hurdles genuine hustlers have to surmount just to make it.

I am just seeing this, thank you for your feedback. Please may I ask further what state you are planting and what are you farming for: leaf or seed? If seed, how has your experience been like.

I plan on experimenting in Ogun State starting early next year God willing. I know people in that axis that farm moringa for leaf but I am yet to meet with anyone that does it for seed. So I am trying to understand the challenges involved in trying to plant in a state like Ogun that has more rainfall than say an average Northern state (which is where it is said to be favourable to grow Moringa). You may ask why Ogun? Well that's the only place I was able to find securely fenced land for a good bargain.

I do appreciate any suggestions, feedback and advice from anyone on the thread.
Thanks guys let's keep up the good work.

Alberttahir:



I think its good from April to July, so there'll be sufficient water for it before dry season. I planted mine in late April an they are doing fine.

Did you attempt to do a soil test before planting on that land?

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Sir, please how large and what state are you farming?

KingOpe:


That's great then. It will be awesome if it still fruits this year. I am new to Moringa farming so I am still learning all I can. I planted 3 varieties - pkm 1, momax 3 and a local perenial variety from india. (It is considerably large scale and i could not put my eggs in one basket)

I will check up again then. Thanks for the update.

Hello EMMAACHILE and other members,

Please I need clarification about these Moringa seeds;

1. Moringa oleifera seeds, 2. Moringa MOMAX3 seeds and Moringa Mol'e Seed.

Is Moringa Oleifera (the popular seed) the same as MOMAX3?

Is Moringa Oleifera still in high market demand in Nigeria?

How many seeds are in 1Kg and how much is the Moringa Oleifera market price?

Thanks guys.

patina50:
Hello EMMAACHILE and other members,

Please I need clarification about these Moringa seeds;

1. Moringa oleifera seeds, 2. Moringa MOMAX3 seeds and Moringa Mol'e Seed.

Is Moringa Oleifera (the popular seed) the same as MOMAX3?

Is Moringa Oleifera still in high market demand in Nigeria?

How many seeds are in 1Kg and how much is the Moringa Oleifera market price?

Thanks guys.

M. oleifera is the scientific name of the moringa plant.
MOMAX, MOL'E, PKM, etc are registered brand names of improved varieties of the moringa plant.

Ok, thanks. How much is PKM1, 1Kg (3000-3200 seeds) in the market?
And is PKM1 still in demand?
Thanks

Hello Emmaachile, any pods yet?

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kayjay69:
I am just seeing this, thank you for your feedback. Please may I ask further what state you are planting and what are you farming for: leaf or seed? If seed, how has your experience been like.

I plan on experimenting in Ogun State starting early next year God willing. I know people in that axis that farm moringa for leaf but I am yet to meet with anyone that does it for seed. So I am trying to understand the challenges involved in trying to plant in a state like Ogun that has more rainfall than say an average Northern state (which is where it is said to be favourable to grow Moringa). You may ask why Ogun? Well that's the only place I was able to find securely fenced land for a good bargain.

I do appreciate any suggestions, feedback and advice from anyone in the thread.
Thanks guys let's keep up the good work.

I'm sorry for the late reply bro. I'm in kogi, but have my farm in Ondo state. I'm after the seeds. I have seen Hausa traders looking for the seeds to buy, so there's market for it here in kogi. I'm a first timer in moringa farming. I decide to experiment it after I came across this thread. I believe the op will attend to your questions.

kayjay69:
Did you attempt to do a soil test before planting on that land?

No.

Alberttahir:


I'm sorry for the late reply bro. I'm in kogi, but have my farm in Ondo state. I'm after the seeds. I have seen Hausa traders looking for the seeds to buy, so there's market for it here in kogi. I'm a first timer in moringa farming. I decide to experiment it after I came across this thread. I believe the op will attend to your questions.

Do the buyers ask for large quantities?

es144000:
Do the buyers ask for large quantities?

Yes.

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EMMAACHILE:
First actual pod from this 7 month Moringa momax3.

Just one pod?

EMMAACHILE:
First actual pod from this 7 month Moringa momax3.

Congratulations sir.

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Mr. Emma what is the price for 2kg I want to plant it. You can contact me on 08023332527

Finally, congrats sir.

EMMAACHILE:
First actual pod from this 7 month Moringa momax3.

EMMAACHILE:
First actual pod from this 7 month Moringa momax3.

Good morning. Haven't more pods appeared?

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EMMAACHILE:

The pods are plenty.

Please can I see? You also said you're not selikng these seeds and will use it for a larger farm. Are you sticking to that plan? How much seed do I have to buy to plant 200 hectares?

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EMMAACHILE:

200 hectares will be about 300,000 seeds oh! Damn too much. I will get the photo shots by weekend when I get home.

The only thing that may spoil my plan is going abroad. Nigeria no be am at all.

More like 332, 000 seeds. I want to start at that level hopefully. The only thing that will make me cultivate less land is if I can't secure enough seed/oil purchase contracts. If I get the contracts, I'll do it.

This abroad thing. Relocate your family and stay here. I know you want to enjoy the money from your online business in a sane country. There's money to be made here, serious money.

Personally, only tourism and education can make me leave Nigeria and it won't be for more than a year at one go.

SocialJustice:
Please can I see? You also said you're not selikng these seeds and will use it for a larger farm. Are you sticking to that plan? How much seed do I have to buy to plant 200 hectares?

SocialJustice:
More like 332, 000 seeds. I want to start at that level hopefully. The only thing that will make me cultivate less land is if I can't secure enough seed/oil purchase contracts. If I get the contracts, I'll do it.

This abroad thing. Relocate your family and stay here. I know you want to enjoy the money from your online business in a sane country. There's money to be made here, serious money.

Personally, only tourism and education can make me leave Nigeria and it won't be for more than a year at one go.

The cost of clearing 200 ha is not a joke for an upcoming farmer. Also, you need to put irrigation into consideration. You have seen that too much rainfall has negative impact on its flowering. What about the effect of heat without irrigating it? I am sure Emmachile is going to irrigate it all through this dry season. The cost of irrigating 10ha may be more than the cost of managing 200ha farm which is not irrigated. And that 10 ha will be more profitable if the impact of heat is disastrous in it. So, you may want to compare irrigated trees vs non irrigated trees before you move forward. Otherwise, you will injure yourself financially. And if you are getting investors, please....take it easy oooo. Do not go and promise investors based on this Emma's trial (you need to do it tourself...dont rely on another man's trial 100%. It can guide you only). Oga, go and try 1 acre and use it to show your investors ooo. You need about 24 months trial to have good figures which can guide you. Managing 1 plant is a different ball game from managing 200 ha (320,000 plants). Do not rush it.

There is money to be made in Nigeria, but you must have your two feet firmly on the ground. And you need international recognition to be a player in any industry you find yourself; else, cabals will knock you out easily. Sowore is a heavy weight, and his connection with the US is why he is a big threat to Buhari. This Sowore's case is already damaging Buhari. Sowore has a reputation. He fought IBB to still during his days. He doesnt back down. Sowore is stubborn. I remember that cultists went after him and they injected lead into his body. This was the only reason Sowore left Nigeria so he could treat himself very well. And he took advantage of that, went for his masters degree in the US, and started launching missiles again. The guy even married a strong woman. Look at what his wife is doing. Unlike Kanu, we didnt even hear about his wife. Sowore is a strong man. Lol.

My point is that I like your spirit. The idea is to have a solid based in Nigeria. Then, launch out afterwards so you can expand your network, and when the cabals arrive, you are not easily squeezed. Dangote has a base outside Nigeria too. Mr. Aliko started with Egypt, and other countries in the East. Then, the Bill Gates' partnership came in. And now, he is accepted in the western world more than most Nigerian business men. He is always flying in and out of Nigeria.

Look at Femi Otedola too. He has a base in Nigeria first. He was a big rival of Dangote in those days with just some millions of naira difference in their wealth. Then, he almost relocated finally to the UK. Now, he is even living more in Nigeria than in the UK because of the oil refinery partnership he has with Dangote. Lol. And Femi isnt stupid to put billions of naira into his daughter's foundation. People felt Femi was being genrous only, but of course not. Bill Gates has opened their eyes to the fact that a good business man must engage in charity works to keep enemies far away. And you can do that easily if you have a base outside Nigeria; else, you will end up like Air Peace Airline owner who is facing money laundering with FBI presently. If you do not have a base outside, no one can ne able to run a good background check on you. And it is easy to just put you in troubles. lol. It is very easy to link you with money laundering and tax issues if yoy have no base abroad.

In short, you cannot easily explain to the outside world that your money is clean if you do not have a base outside Nigeria. "Nigeria is jajajaga. Everything scatter .....scatter... Gbosa! Gbosa!!" Go ask Idris Abdulkareem the reason. And ask him why one must have a base outside Nigeria after he sang that song....ha! "The guy for chop salty stony beans in kirikiri because OBJ really wanted to deal with him".

I can go on and on. The great Prof Wole Soyinka was able to move out of Nigeria without his international passport. Lol. If his base abroad was weak Abacha would have killed him or jailed him...just like that. His passport was seized at MM airport in Lagos and Baba just found his way to Cotonou. Lol. From there, he moved to the U.S. Even Jagaban too that is a heavy weight today in politics has a base outside Nigeria. He was NADECO in those days. Baba strong allies in the UK and in the US.

So, it is not for travelling or tourism only. If you are smart and brilliant, you need a base out of Nigeria because you are going to be a threat to many with that 200 ha moringa farm oóoo. You better go slow first before you open yourself to cabals. Else, you will have to bow to cabals later ooooo.

Nigeria will get better, but it is going to take time. If you are blessed to dominate an industry, you better find a way to get a strong base outside.

EMMAACHILE:

200 hectares will be about 300,000 seeds oh! Damn too much. I will get the photo shots by weekend when I get home.

The only thing that may spoil my plan is going abroad. Nigeria no be am at all.

Hmmmm!

My brother, put this post into consideration sir. Sit down and make a very good business plan. Save towards it. Moringa or fruits are not even what I am going to tell you to start with. What can you do to have N10,000,000 profit in 3 months? Of course you have broiler and vegetables which you are extremely good at. Oga, go get max of 1 ha, and fence it round. Set it up well, and know that you are operating in it 3 months every year. Shikena. You do not need to buy land where it is costly. Return home annually, and do the job yourself, and make your cash. Say bye bye...return after 9 months again. That's rougly 27,000usd profit...leave your capital behind in Nigeria. Thats approx. 3,000usd for you per month. Gradually, you expand it. And by the time you are a feather weight, you can set up fruits and trees to grow into a heavy weight. Therefore, struggle now to set up such venture.

Bro, setting up fruits and trees, without you around can be disastrous. It is why I will still advise you to work more on your chicken and veggie production. Leverage on the short cycles production nature of the products.

And if you leave Nigeria without setting up a good business you can fall back on, you will regret it. You will not be able to return home easily, and you will be full of regrets. How much are you going to be earning per hour there? With what I have seen you put here on NL, bros....do not ever try to leave Nigeria without setting up well. And set up what you can run for just 3 months and cash out. Luckily, you are a master of broiler production. And you can do veggie. Give moringa more time before you launch into it sir.

Think about it. May God prosper you.

Pistotita, you always have kind and honest words. I don't deal with investors, they are mostly nuisance that could destroy your work. I want to finance fully on my own.

I will take your advice and bring it down to 10 hectares. Emmaachile has a very good alternative business that meets the abroad audit you're talking about. I intend to even go into that business before starting this farm. Nigeria truly sucks but the country is too sweet. A friend of mine relocated to Sweden, just one year and he's back. Nigeria is too sweet.

I don't want to run a farm that needs daily attention, that's the reason I chose Moringa in the first place. I also intend to irrigate via gutters, I open the tap and the water runs into the field in the gutters.

I'll never go into a business without proper cost analysis and profit ratio documents. I've done terrible business mistakes in the past, mostly legal aspect though not accounting and I'm not going to take any form of failure anymore.

When Sowore regains his freedom, he better runs back to USA and stay there. He's an unserious clown that is disturbing the peace. He does not have the backing to accomplish anything he's trying to do and from experience, most people like Sowore end up being terrible leaders.

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EMMAACHILE:

Money can be made anywhere bro. It's in the mind of the person.

True but I just want to contribute my own quota to Nigeria's development.

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