isthatso:


I have read many respected scholars attest to this. If i recall the original Ooni was either amillegitimate son or not actually a son of oduduwa but his chief priest or something like that and when the true heir to the throne came back from war instead of battling the man on the throne he went on to establish his own kingdon which I beleive is ilaorangun. If my recollection is correct, the true 1st line lineage of oduduwa is in ila-orangun

I cant recall accurately but I know that according to some respected accounts ila-orangun and oyo have more supremacy that what we are made to beleive, i.e the Ooni.

some time ago the ooni went to OYO to make peace with the alaafin and he acknowledged the alaafin as the elder..
the ooni has more publicity that's why most people think he is the head

ola33t:









That's not a list of South-West Obas, that's the list of old western region as you can see Oba of Benin on the list.

Then, that's a bullshit list of Obas. Oni of Ife should be the first on the list and Oraagun of Ila should not be on the list of second class Obas.
That list is a political rating of kings which must have been collated by a drunk Lugard, not the cultural rating of kings based on solid historical Origin.

Then, OP bia, where did you see color printing on glossy paper before independence? That snapped page is from recent time. If that were before independence, would have been at most a sheet of typed paper made from a mechanical typewriter.

That's no glossy paper. It's the phone camera reflection. Of course, there are colour printing in 1930s. You should take a look at the history of printing. At the time, the country was run by Brits. What ever was available to them was available in Nigeria

SURELAND:
This is the salaries of south west Obas before independence

But now that they are in APC or PDP the money is up

seunmsg:


Your entire narration is false. The Ile-Ife royal family are direct descendant of Oduduwa. Oranmiyan left Benin and Oyo to take over the Ile-Ife throne and his children rule over Benin, Oyo and Ile-Ife till today.

the problem with Yoruba history is nobody knows for sure. There are different versions circulating. My wife is from one of the royal families of Ife, her grand father was a king. Her account and that of her uncles, is quite different from the official version taught in schools.

The truth is nobody knows which is which, what is what. yorubas will tell you Benin people are descendants of Ife, Benin people will tell you Ife people are descendants of Benin. My wife's family will tell you that their ancestor was the authentic son of Oduduwa who fled Ile-fe.

I dont claim to know anything and quite frankly neither can you. Everything is hearsay, and just like Awolowo elevated Onni over Alaafin because of AG/NCNC politics (Adesoji Aderemi was an Awo loyalist), a lot of superiority/ seniority facts have been distorted over time not dissimilar to what is going on in kano today...can you imagine someone daring to tamper with the Emirate of kano?.

I merely stated that there are other accounts that support the view that other Monarchs may actually be superior to the Ooni. I simply stated that I actually read one that stated that infact the ooriginal Ooni is actually not an oduduwa descendant but infact his bablawo and was so powerful that when his son the true heir came back from war he fled to establish his kingdom elsewhere rather than challenge him for the stool being so afraid of his spiritual powers. The story of my wife's family's exit from Ife is not dissimilar.

Bottom line is nobody knows or can claim to know. When the illegitimate ursurps the legitimate, it is natural to rewrite history to wipe away the illegitimacy. Virtually every oba in yoruba land will tell you a story that is different. There are many kingdoms in yoruba land that will tell you they FLED ile -ife, there is no doubt over the course of history many legitimate or illegitimate kings were deposed in Ife. So how do we know for sure that the one there is from a legitimate line or an illegitimate one? what is sure is that ife is significant in the story of the yorubas.

Quite frankly when the so called sprititual father of yorubas is bowing down before another spiritual leader, it makes a mockery of the whole institution of the Ooni.

OSUigboFlatHead:


WHENEVER I TELL SOME IGNORANT CHILDREN AND BUSY-BODY OSU PEOPLE THAT ALAAFIN OF OYO IS GREATER THAN OONI OF IFE, THEY WILL JUST BE ARGUING SENSELESSLY

PIKIN WEY NOR NO HISTORY

ALAAFIN OF OYO REMAINS THE MOST POWERFUL KING IN YORUBA KINGDOM!
FORGET ALL THESE MEDIA BULLSHEETS AROUND OONI OF IFE.

I pray they understand...
Oyo kingdom was great that it was controlling some parts of Diahomey( Benin republic)

Lamidi get level past Adeyeye be that

They don try...

Everybody is going out of there sensesees, (imagine, was in a party today, come see realizing of guns)Buhari has really turned Naija upside down. Everybody is just taking law into there hands...
Concerned youths , wot should we door?.....

Iamgrey5:
I believe it's about economic activities in those areas under the King

Alafin had the largest territory to oversee

Alake had the second largest territory to oversee

Awujale oversaw most of ijebu, Ikorodu and Remo

Oni had the least of the territory to oversee

Well said.

SURELAND:
This is the salaries of south west Obas before independence

osemawe of Ondo Kingdom not oshonowe ,meanwhile most of the kingdom here Happen to be province ,while some stool are still powerful some are not due to the social,economic and general development of their domain,for example ila orangun seems to just be a sleepy town, nothing much in oyo town meanwhile IFE,Benin,Abeokuta,Ondo and Ijebu are more developed with huge infrastructure

OSUigboFlatHead:


WHENEVER I TELL SOME IGNORANT CHILDREN AND BUSY-BODY OSU PEOPLE THAT ALAAFIN OF OYO IS GREATER THAN OONI OF IFE, THEY WILL JUST BE ARGUING SENSELESSLY

PIKIN WEY NOR NO HISTORY

ALAAFIN OF OYO REMAINS THE MOST POWERFUL KING IN YORUBA KINGDOM!
FORGET ALL THESE MEDIA BULLSHEETS AROUND OONI OF IFE.

The salary didn't state the level of importance on the list. It only distinguish first class from second class. Using your intelligent mind, you will find that a second class king even earned more than first class king. That means, the amount earned is not a direct relationship with importance. Do you think the money is for eating alone? The money is a reflection of the king's responsibility. How huge the land is overseeing or the people he cares for. I can easily argue Oba of Benin is the biggest in the list but I don't want to go there. I just want you to see the rational side of things

nlPoster:


What about the mispellings?

My Brother, I studied History in UI, passing out in the early 1980s. The evil that abides in Nigerian politics these days started during colonialism. The British Resident in Ibadan then was a personal friend of the son of the Alaafin. He even shifted the Capital of Ibadan Province to Oyo! This was in 1934. I suggest you read the book I quoted.

This is a Bloody Lies (no wonder Social Bills) in 1930s... There was no Republic of Nigeria until 1963.... From A Nigeria Historian

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Mayflowa:


The salary didn't state the level of importance on the list. It only distinguish first class from second class. Using your intelligent mind, you will find that a second class king even earned more than first class king. That means, the amount earned is not a direct relationship with importance. Do you think the money is for eating alone? The money is a reflection of the king's responsibility. How huge the land is overseeing or the people he cares for. I can easily argue Oba of Benin is the biggest in the list but I don't want to go there. I just want you to see the rational side of things

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Rubbish
You don't see beyond your nose
Swerve jor and goan play with sand as usual

isthatso:


the problem with Yoruba history is nobody knows for sure. There are different versions circulating. My wife is from one of the royal families of Ife, her grand father was a king. Her account is quite different from the official version taught in schools.

The truth is nobody knows which is which, what is what. yorubas will tell you Benin people are descendants of Ife, Benin people will tell you Ife people are descendants of Benin. My wife's family will tell you that their ancestor was the authentic son of Oduduwa who fled Ile-fe.

I dont claim to know anything and quite frankly neither can you. Everything is hearsay, and just like Awolowo elevated Onni over Alaafin because of AG/NCNC politics Adesoji Aderemi was an Awo loyalist, a lot of superiority/ seniority facts have been distorted over time. I just stated that thare are other accounts that support the view that other Monarchs may actually be superior to the Ooni. I simply stated that I actually read one that stated that infact the ooriginal Ooni is actually not an oduduwa descendant but infact his bablawo and was so powerful that when his son the true heir came back from war he fled to establish his kingdom elsewhere rather than challenge him for the stool being so afraid of his spiritual powers. The story of my wife's family's exit from Ife is not dissimilar.

Bottom line is nobody knows or can claim to know. Virtually every oba in yoruba land will tell you a story that is different. what is sure is that ife is significant in the story of the yorubas.

The list of all Ooni of Ile-Ife from Oduduwa to the current Ooni Ogunwusi is available for any form of historical review. None of the previous Ooni was a slave at anytime. Oduduwa and Obatala’s lineage are the only known rulers of Ile-Ife till date. None of the two lineages have history of slavery.

The so called historical account you’re referring to is the account rendered by Rev. Samuel Johnson in his book “History of the Yorubas”. The account had since been debunked to be inaccurate and without any historical basis.

SURELAND:
lalasticlala see you Oba Salary here

lalasticlala is from kogi state n their oba can't be here

Oshin56:
you are free to argue it, but as through son of Yoruba I know and I believed that oni of ife is greater than alaafin of oyo.

In your dreams...

Kingluqman:
This is not the rank of how powerful they are, it’s just their salaries. Mind you, Alaafin was collecting more money than others is because the king oversee all the Oyo Empire which comprises of many towns of Yoruba land even to Benin republic.


Till today, Ooni of Ife still remain the number 1 Oba in Yoruba land and second to Sultan of Sokoto in Nigeria.


Argue with your balls

Yorubaaaa moslems and slavery

Kingluqman:
This is not the rank of how powerful they are, it’s just their salaries. Mind you, Alaafin was collecting more money than others is because the king oversee all the Oyo Empire which comprises of many towns of Yoruba land even to Benin republic.


Till today, Ooni of Ife still remain the number 1 Oba in Yoruba land and second to Sultan of Sokoto in Nigeria.


Argue with your balls

Putting the Ooni of Ife behind the Sultan of Sokoto could only mean one thing; you're sick.

onecoder:
No wonder Oyo people dey worship alaafin.
I was in that town one day when the the king showed at owode, all the drivers prostrated on the road. I kept wondering

Iku baba yeye

you are free to argue it, but as through son of Yoruba I know and I believed that oni of ife is greater than alaafin of oyo.

Ife, like Benin, is "Public Relations Office" for Yoruba. (Benin for midwest towards Southeast).

That's why most of the history is about the movement of people migrating elsewhere from a central point and also why there is intense interaction and networking with non- Ifes, especially foreigners. Just like what obtains in Benin.

My opinion.

AreaFada2:

At this point Benin monarchy had just been reluctantly restored by the British a few decades earlier.
In colonial times if you were on the good books of colonialists you were favoured in everything. See how Egba also benefitted immensely from education while the British wrote in their memo that the schools Benin have requested to be build should not be build.

To avoid a similar case of Fourah Bay College graduates opposing British rule in both Sierra Leone and Lagos colony. Benin was seen a potential hotbed of opposition to British rule if they were educated. Due to Oba Ovonramwen and 1897 issue.


Ties between Benin and the British sure hasn't been the best since 1897.

Alake who is a recent monarch among most first class SW kings easily rakes in more salary than most.

You need a beer
Whats your brand....
Go-to-bed!!!
Goldberg....

Odingo1:

Must you put the Northern leader ahead of your own leader, who made Sultan of Sokoto number 1 ahead of Ooni of Ife.

Inferiority complex.

Vitamin B Complex ni Weyre

Alake who is a recent monarch among most first class SW kings easily rakes in more salary than most.

Security budget.

OSUigboFlatHead:

In your dreams...

you don't need to explain yourself before person can know your type

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OSUigboFlatHead:
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Rubbish
You don't see beyond your nose
Swerve jor and goan play with sand as usual

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shut up

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OSUigboFlatHead:

In your dreams...

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This is an unbiased evidence that Alaafin was bigger than Ooni. Can we get that of the North and East?

KanuSE:


Can you explain sir, is it by exploits or just office?

By what standards do you claim that Ooni is greater Alaafin?

please can you please tell me oduduwa First son name

Na food money Dem dey give orangun of ila

Kingluqman:
This is not the rank of how powerful they are, it’s just their salaries. Mind you, Alaafin was collecting more money than others is because the king oversee all the Oyo Empire which comprises of many towns of Yoruba land even to Benin republic.


Till today, Ooni of Ife still remain the number 1 Oba in Yoruba land and second to Sultan of Sokoto in Nigeria.


Argue with your balls

Na you put am under Sultan abi? E be like say head dey pain you? The Sultan seat is an acquired one. The seat Ooni occupies is that of ATÈWÒNRÒ. Be guided pls. Ooni (the thrown) is not in the same class with ANY other king anywhere.

ola33t:









That's not a list of South-West Obas, that's the list of old western region as you can see Oba of Benin on the list.

Then, that's a bullshit list of Obas. Oni of Ife should be the first on the list and Oraagun of Ila should not be on the list of second class Obas.
That list is a political rating of kings which must have been collated by a drunk Lugard, not the cultural rating of kings based on solid historical Origin.

Then, OP bia, where did you see color printing on glossy paper before independence? That snapped page is from recent time. If that were before independence, would have been at most a sheet of typed paper made from a mechanical typewriter.

You caught op with the coloured printing stuff, lmao