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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:45am On Dec 02, 2019
ornicus:
I do not know how many times this has to be said

Ippis is simply a front end for oracle.

Any form. Of remuneration for any category of employee can be executed through the platform. All you need to do is engage your consultant /admin to create the standard forms


Salary, overtime, bonus, leave allowance, 13th month, turkey allowance, weekend job, temporary supervisor allowance, anything can be covered.

Full employee, contract employee, consultant, casual employee, vendor. All are covered


ASUU should stop embarrassing themselves. Professionals are looking at their silly arguments and laughing. They are digging a bigger hole for themselves with these silly arguments

It's not abt the software itself. Who is going to authorize the admin to add the name of a staff from Ghana on adjunct here for example to the system. How will he be added? What you said abt admin can actually work, but the problem seems to be that you have to be properly documented to be on the platform and from what we've seen so far, the people doing the documentation come from Abuja. Imagine UNIMAID wants to take a staff from Ibadan on sabbatical, does that mean he has to go to Abuja for documentation first of all? Let's spread it to a visiting lecturer from Africa or Europe.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 11:49am On Dec 02, 2019
thundafire:
IPPIS is meant for salaries alone and government approved allowances not were VC will do anyhow it's to curb dey excesses am part of dey IPPIS crew and do u know wat uni saying dey have upto 6k staffs but lecturing and non-lecturing but as we are doing dey enrollment dey have just 4k + so tell me where dey other money went
Good!! That is what IPPIS is meant to curb. And it is extremely good. But what I'm saying is the issue of sabbatical, adjunct, study leave, visiting lecturers, research grants etc should also be looked into.
BTW i'm told that some staff like cleaners, security, drivers are not being captured on IPPIS. How are those to be taken care of now?
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 11:49am On Dec 02, 2019
He is not in the university system and that's why he gave a rough but wrong estimate of school fees at N350k. I am in the University system. I had previously lectured in a private university, before leaving to a federal university. And I can tell you categorically that tuition fees for courses Medicine, Pharmacy, Nursing, and Engineering courses will definitely be nothing less than N2,000,000 per session if you really want Federal universities to be financially autonomous. You can take my estimate to the bank any day. Some of the federal universities pay N50,000,000 monthly for power alone. Factor in the cost of daily cleaning, gardening, and so on. Then you should visit laboratories at faculties of pharmacy, colleges of medicine and faculties of engineering and get a rough idea of how many billions of naira are needed per year for these courses to be effectively run the way they should.

Private universities charge as much as N3,000,000 for medicine yearly, and yet they don't have enough money to tool up their laboratories.

The government should decide once and for all. If functional education is what we really want in Nigeria, the government should sit up and start investing the right amount of money. In fact if you don't trust universities to manage the huge investment, let the National Assembly do it directly. We don't care, as much as we can freaking do our job. And if the government will not be able to fund education (which it has not been able to do so since the time of Yar'adua, the last time money was actually injected...and not the TETFUND which is not really money from government intervention, unfortunately Buhari has been claiming TETFUND money as if it is coming from the Federal government), then the students should be charged the amount proportionate to their courses. Any one who cannot fund a course should not put in for the course, or should approach the government to make education loan available.

Cheers.




Arsenella007:


You are not in the university system so you don't know what you are saying. The universities generate alot of money, I mean millions.. They don't remit nothing to the government, yet the government pays salaries, provides tetfund for research, infrastructure, also research grants that's is not accounted for, etc.. What happens to the school fees, the acceptance fees, the other IGRs? Most universities don't even pay the allowances the are supposed to pay their workers, cut their salaries..

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by thatigboman: 11:55am On Dec 02, 2019
ogtavia:


Statement of CBN Core Mandate
The mandate of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN) is derived from the 1958 Act of Parliament, as amended in 1991, 1993,1997,1998,1999 and 2007.

The CBN Act of 2007 of the Federal Republic of Nigeria charges the Bank with the overall control and administration of the monetary and financial sector policies of the Federal Government.

The objects of the CBN are as follows:

ensure monetary and price stability;
issue legal tender currency in Nigeria;
maintain external reserves to safeguard the international value of the legal tender currency;
promote a sound financial system in Nigeria; and
act as Banker and provide economic and financial advice to the Federal Government.
Consequently, the Bank is charged with the responsibility of administering the Banks and Other Financial Institutions (BOFI) Act (1991) as amended, with the sole aim of ensuring high standards of banking practice and financial stability through its surveillance activities, as well as the promotion of an efficient payment system.

In addition to its core functions, CBN has over the years performed some major developmental functions, focussed on all the key sectors of the Nigerian economy (financial, agricultural and industrial sectors). Overall, these mandates are carried out by the Bank through its various departments
and in providing those services dont earn income?
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 11:59am On Dec 02, 2019
Agboriotejoye:


It's not abt the software itself. Who is going to authorize the admin to add the name of a staff from Ghana on adjunct here for example to the system. How will he be added? What you said abt admin can actually work, but the problem seems to be that you have to be properly documented to be on the platform and from what we've seen so far, the people doing the documentation come from Abuja. Imagine UNIMAID wants to take a staff from Ibadan on sabbatical, does that mean he has to go to Abuja for documentation first of all? Let's spread it to a visiting lecturer from Africa or Europe.

guy, abeg no dey fall hand like this. we are in the age of information. do you want to claim there is no internet in your university?
if you want to chase yankee visa, do you not do the entire registration process online?

they only need people on ground for the first data capture of the entire community. even that can be done online. you are the ones who are trying to make the simple complex.

https://www.jamb.org.ng/

if small pikins can register with their data on jamb's portal, what is the issue?

all the organizations i listed, they employ and discharge staff all the time.

you think companies with offices all over nigeria do not transfer staff all the time?

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:05pm On Dec 02, 2019
ornicus:


guy, abeg no dey fall hand like this. we are in the age of information. do you want to claim there is no internet in your university?
if you want to chase yankee visa, do you not do the entire registration process online?

they only need people on ground for the first data capture of the entire community. even that can be done online. you are the ones who are trying to make the simple complex.

https://www.jamb.org.ng/

if small pikins can register with their data on jamb's portal, what is the issue?

all the organizations i listed, they employ and discharge staff all the time.

you think companies with offices all over nigeria do not transfer staff all the time?

You're talking theory I'm talking practical. Is there anywhere were they register for IPPIS online? That is a possibility but not the present reality. Even now, if there's an issue with ur documentation, you have to go to Abuja for rectification. Ask any civil servant you know. Some have been on half pay due to this IPPIS issues. If online registration is available, I'm sure it will solve a lot of fraud in the system but let it be implemented the right way.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 12:12pm On Dec 02, 2019
Agboriotejoye:


You're talking theory I'm talking practical. Is there anywhere were they register for IPPIS online? That is a possibility but not the present reality. Even now, if there's an issue with ur documentation, you have to go to Abuja for rectification. Ask any civil servant you know. Some have been on half pay due to this IPPIS issues. If online registration is available, I'm sure it will solve a lot of fraud in the system but let it be implemented the right way.

Oga, sorry, you are the one, like Nigerian lecturers everywhere who is talking theory. For your information, my last employer a downstream major with offices and employees all over the country, has been using oracle for the last 8 years.

I am just trying to humor you. I am actually embarrassed for your continued insistence that there is something complex or different in the way ASUU pays employees and contractors.

Understand this. Multinationals, enterprise organisations use oracle and sap. Your petty issues are insignificant and only highlight your luddite reasoning

Go and ask any of your students who did it in the it dept of a blue chip company to introduce you to their oracle administrator.

Right now you sound like a bunch of old men insisting that you will use a typewriter instead of Microsoft word, or a paper machie model instead of a 3D printer or a tee square instead of cad software

I am sure you are still bullying students with FORTRAN and COBOL.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by ogtavia(m): 12:14pm On Dec 02, 2019
thatigboman:
and in providing those services dont earn income?

Now you get my point. Primarily they are not profit making in operation. Operating surplus is not profit.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by 2019elections: 12:21pm On Dec 02, 2019
NigPatriot:


You are missing her point she's saying the opposite of what you're insinuating. Her claim is, Universities dont generate income such as CBN, FDIC etc. Government funds institutions and as such can impose the IPPIS system.

I'm saying universities generate income to counter her claim. Govt funds CBN too and that's why it's government owned. No institution be it educational or financial in Nigeria funds itself.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by 2019elections: 12:33pm On Dec 02, 2019
Nwadiuto247:



You know nothing.

All school fees go into the federal government TSA.

Thats why you pay thru Remita. You think its schools that take school fees?

School fees as it is currently charged cannot be enough to pay university staff. There must be an increase before it will be sufficiient to maitain the universities. Government is subsidising it your fees by adding the[rs.


This is so wrong. U know how many students de enrol each year? See, if nor for corruption, the tuition the students pay is sufficient to run a school.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:35pm On Dec 02, 2019
ornicus:


Oga, sorry, you are the one, like Nigerian lecturers everywhere who is talking theory. For your information, my last employer a downstream major with offices and employees all over the country, has been using oracle for the last 8 years.

I am just trying to humor you. I am actually embarrassed for your continued insistence that there is something complex or different in the way ASUU pays employees and contractors.

Understand this. Multinationals, enterprise organisations use oracle and sap. Your petty issues are insignificant and only highlight your luddite reasoning

Go and ask any of your students who did it in the it dept of a blue chip company to introduce you to their oracle administrator.

Right now you sound like a bunch of old men insisting that you will use a typewriter instead of Microsoft word, or a paper machie model instead of a 3D printer or a tee square instead of cad software

I am sure you are still bullying students with FORTRAN and COBOL.

All dis ur grammar shows you don't understand anything about what we're telling you. When did ASUU become an employer or client. You just want to blow your own trumpet. I don't care whether you worked in NASA or Oracle itself. What I'm telling you is that there are grievances that are genuine as it concerns IPPIS. You're here talking as if you're the one who invented Oracle. Abeg it don do. No need to talk further.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by shadeyinka(m): 12:36pm On Dec 02, 2019
shogz89:

i am going to assume you are not a finance person.. cashflow isnt the same as income statement. when you pick an income statement you can tell the kind of business an organisation does and where their income comes from. Going by the screenshot i sent, its evident that CBN gets its income from, interests from borrowings, fees from financial institutions like commercial banks etc( it could be annual subscription, fines etc), commissions and other operating income.
I guess you didn't understand my point. Let me spell it out.

Let's assume that the FG kept 1trillion Naira with me and I fixed it in a bank. At an annual return rate of 6%, I'll be having a return of N6 billion Naira per annum. This looks impressive on the surface but the question is what work am I doing to generate the N6 billion?

Same is the question I have asked. The CBN money is the FG's money. Federal government made a law that mandates banks to "Bank" with the CBN. Every banking transactions end up with the CBN having their cut: so I ask what real work does CBN do that warrant that staff be paid well beyond fellow accountants and economists working in other agencies?

Its also like FIRS, even if they don't leave their offices, business owners will come to pay their taxes because without that, they can't get any government contracts. Theirs is even a little better than that of the CBN.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 12:39pm On Dec 02, 2019
Agboriotejoye:


All dis ur grammar shows you don't understand anything about what we're telling you. When did ASUU become an employer or client. You just want to blow your own trumpet. I don't care whether you worked in NASA or Oracle itself. What I'm telling you is that there are grievances that are genuine as it concerns IPPIS. You're here talking as if you're the one who invented Oracle. Abeg it don do. No need to talk further.

And these are the people teaching our kids. No wonder public universities are churning out unemployable graduates.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 12:44pm On Dec 02, 2019
ornicus:


And these are the people teaching our kids. No wonder public universities are churning out unemployable graduates.

Who asked you to take ur kids to public universities. With all ur mouth, one will think your kids are in UK or US. If you think you can do better why don't you apply for a lecturing job.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by joyandfaith: 12:46pm On Dec 02, 2019
if certain mda are excluded from ippis,ASUU should not join ippis.all workers should be treated equally whether they involve in generating monies for government or not. discrimination in civil service is causing disaffection among workers across mda and it is a reason for corruption.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by zanga420: 12:47pm On Dec 02, 2019
Arsenella007:


You are not in the university system so you don't know what you are saying. The universities generate alot of money, I mean millions.. They don't remit nothing to the government, yet the government pays salaries, provides tetfund for research, infrastructure, also research grants that's is not accounted for, etc.. What happens to the school fees, the acceptance fees, the other IGRs? Most universities don't even pay the allowances the are supposed to pay their workers, cut their salaries..
Madam, if universities are to generate funds for themselves, school fees go reach N500k.
Have you asked yourself why private universities are costly compared to private ones?
Let FG answer, why is NDIC, CBN, FIRS etc not enrolled. That's strong a good question that needs answer

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by joyandfaith: 12:50pm On Dec 02, 2019
shadeyinka:

I guess you didn't understand my point. Let me spell it out.

Let's assume that the FG kept 1trillion Naira with me and I fixed it in a bank. At an annual return rate of 6%, I'll be having a return of N6 billion Naira per annum. This looks impressive on the surface but the question is what work am I doing?

Same is the question I have asked. The CBN money is the FG's money. Federal government made a law that mandates banks to "Bank" with the CBN. Every banking transactions end up with the CBN having their cut: so I ask what real work does CBN do that warrant that staff be paid well beyond fellow accountants and economists working in other agencies?

Its also like FIRS, even if they don't leave their offices, business owners will come to pay their taxes because without that, they can't get any government contracts. Theirs is even a little better than that of the CBN.

you are absolutely correct.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 12:51pm On Dec 02, 2019
Agboriotejoye:


Who asked you to take ur kids to public universities. With all ur mouth, one will think your kids are in UK or US. If you think you can do better why don't you apply for a lecturing job.

Why would I want to be a lecturer, seeing the backward mentality you are all manifesting from the top down?

Why do you think anyone with money would even choose to send thier kids to school in Ghana rather than a public Nigerian institution?

Like I said professionals are looking at you and laughing. You think you are making sense, but all you are doing is shouting to the world, we are ancient dinosaurs completely intimidated by contemporary technology

Please carry on trumpeting your ignorance and dancing naked in the market place.

Just understand, there is no unique situation you can claim. Oracle is a mature platform. The best you will have is teething problems that came with adoption.but there will be no real problems because oracle is not a beta or rc, but a full fledged, mature platform

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by LibrarianD: 12:52pm On Dec 02, 2019
post=84543773:
Na criminals full dis ASUU sha.


A case of, we are not the only thieves, those ones are thieves also.

This is what you considered an
Take care!

You're simply myopic regarding this issue. The fact that you could call a whole gathering of intellectuals "criminals" reveals your stock.

You would have done better comparing what ASUU is fighting for with what is obtainable elsewhere. Reading up on the laws and acts governing Nigeria universities will widen your horizon on vital issues as this.

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by thundafire: 12:55pm On Dec 02, 2019
Agboriotejoye:

Good!! That is what IPPIS is meant to curb. And it is extremely good. But what I'm saying is the issue of sabbatical, adjunct, study leave, visiting lecturers, research grants etc should also be looked into.
BTW i'm told that some staff like cleaners, security, drivers are not being captured on IPPIS. How are those to be taken care of now?
just like working in an agency Sabbatical leave is dey same thing as taking, maternity leave and others cs u still receiving ur salary and other things attached just dat sabbatical last a year,taking a study leave u need to cater dat for ursef, visiting lecturers will be paid from dey school based on agreement while research Grant is totally different from others either u apply in ur school or through a donor body
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by SolarHub(m): 1:01pm On Dec 02, 2019
ASUU... very terrible group



Check my signature now
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:08pm On Dec 02, 2019
ornicus:


[b]Why would I want to be a lecturer, seeing the backward mentality you are all manifesting from the top down?

[/b]Why do you think anyone with money would even choose to send thier kids to school in Ghana rather than a public Nigerian institution?

Like I said professionals are looking at you and laughing. You think you are making sense, but all you are doing is shouting to the world, we are ancient dinosaurs completely intimidated by contemporary technology

Please carry on trumpeting your ignorance and dancing naked in the market place.

Just understand, there is no unique situation you can claim. Oracle is a mature platform. The best you will have is teething problems that came with adoption.but there will be no real problems because oracle is not a beta or rc, but a full fledged, mature platform

Hahahahaha. Look at this ignoramus. If you know the caliber of people in ASUU, i'm sure you don't even measure up to half of some of them.
If you feel you're better, I challenge you to apply to a university let's see what level they'll put you dat is if you're even employed self.

Shouting professional up and down as if he can write one line of program. Most of those professors you see heading gov parastatals are ASUU members FYI including the VP. So stick ur empty pomposity up ur rotten behind

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 1:14pm On Dec 02, 2019
Agboriotejoye:


Hahahahaha. Look at this ignoramus. If you know the caliber of people in ASUU, i'm sure you don't even measure up to half of some of them.
If you feel you're better, I challenge you to apply to a university let's see what level they'll put you dat is if you're even employed self.

Shouting professional up and down as if he can write one line of program. Most of those professors you see heading gov parastatals are ASUU members FYI including the VP. So stick ur empty pomposity up ur rotten behind

Shebi you said you people will develop your own erp software? Oya fire away. We are waiting.

Jokers . You think this is cold room?

Did we not go to school under you jokers who made us write copy and paste algorithms?

Who exactly do you think you are fooling? It is only undergraduates you have power over in your lofty incompetence.

You will join ippis. If you like wail and make up more and more ridiculous claims about the special arcane nature of ASUU operations.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Arizonaguy(m): 1:20pm On Dec 02, 2019
seguntijan:
Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU) has posed some tough questions to the Federal Government, asking why some federal agencies such as the Federal Inland Revenue Services, Central Bank of Nigeria and the Nigeria Deposit Insurance Corporation are not captured on the Integrated Payroll and Personnel Information System(IPPIS).
ASUU Chairman, University of Abuja branch, Dr. Kassim Umaru, raised the query while puncturing the insistence of the Federal Government that its members must enrol on the platform.
In a statement on Saturday, Umaru dismissed the payment system as a scam and said ASUU members will not join it.
The Office of Accountant-General of the Federation said that data of university workers and colleges of education be captured on the system between Monday November 25 and December 7.
Umaru said the National Executive Council of ASUU had a meeting and directed its members not to enrol, adding that the chapter will comply with the order from the national body.
Umaru argued that the payroll system is totally in violation of university autonomy and does not have any legal backing.
He faulted the government for resorting to threats whenever there was disagreement between the union and government.
Umaru urged the government to come to the table and discuss with the union instead of threatening to stop their salaries.
“As far as we are concerned in the union, we have worked and we must be paid. Eventually, if the government decides to stop our salary then the NEC will reconsider the decision of the government then appropriate action will be taken,”
“There is massive corruption in IPPIS. Did government care to investigate IPPIS itself? We are saying why is CBN not in IPPIS? Why is NDIC not in IPPIS? Why is Federal Inland Revenue not in IPPIS? But the lecturers who are just collecting stipends to be pulled into IPPIS so that our legal entitlement will not be paid.
“We are not going to allow it. We are not going to be part of the staff that are going to be enrolled in IPPIS. We took a resolution and we are reaffirming the direction of the national, that is NEC. NEC took a decision that we are not going to get enrolled into IPPIS and you know what our union is actually against is that the university has an autonomy and if you look at it clearly, this autonomy we are saying is enshrined in Section 2AA of the University Miscellaneous Provision Amendment Act of 2003 which clearly explained the role of the Governing Council.
“Even the Miscellaneous Act we are saying clearly stated that the power of the council shall be exercised as in the law and that status of each university. So it is clear we have an autonomy. Again, university is the peculiar nature of the appointment of university as academics. Our 2009 agreement which was negotiated by the federal government and our union is also there. So many issues are there and that is why our union is saying we should be allowed to produce a template which will have all these series of issues but not to have a center point of payment.”
Aspects not captured by the IPPIS:

As submitted by Abubakar Sabo, ASUU Chair UDUS:
1. Provision for external examination for PhD and MSC students.
2. Provision for the payment of External assessment to which many would not have benefitted from and become professors.
3. Provision for casual staff such as those cleaners and gardeners that keep the university environment clean.
4. Provision for adjunct and part time lecturers who are professionals in their field but could not take full time appointment because they are already working elsewhere.
5. Provision for international experts who would want to come from world recognised universities to come and establish new programs in our universities and share their wealth of experience with us.
6. Provision for post graduate supervision which was completely removed from the platform
The fact of the matter is that the government is saying universities should use their IGR to cater for all these and should this become a reality, universities will be left with no option but to re introduce tuition fees and charge higher fees from the students. Then we will now know that an average Nigerian cannot afford higher education again. That is world bank policy for you. The general idea is to localise our universities and make them unaccessible globally all in the name of a policy for payments of salary.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/11/30/ASUU-queries-fg-why-are-staff-of-cbn-ndic-firs-not-on-ippis/
which autonomy are they ranting about
The autonomy to work part time when you are being paid as a full time
The autonomy to be enrol on different and multiple payroll
A lecturer is a civil servant and whoever include an autonomy in their enabling act is senseless and evil
ASUU is freaking corrupt and needs to shut up then enrol in that IPPIS
They are humming cos it won't be business no more
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:21pm On Dec 02, 2019
ornicus:


Shebi you said you people will develop your own erp software? Oya fire away. We are waiting.

Jokers . You think this is cold room?
Did we not go to school under you jokers who made us write copy and paste algorithms?
Who exactly do you think you are fooling? It is only undergraduates you have power over in your lofty incompetence.

You will join ippis. If you like wail and make up more and more ridiculous claims about the special arcane nature of ASUU operations.


grin grin I see where ur pain is now. So you can only do copy and paste algorithms. Eyaaa. Sorry eehn. But you should have taken life by the scruff of the neck and developed urself now? Or do you think Oracle developer was taught how to develop it by his lecturers. If you're dull, you're dull. There's nothing any lecturer can do abt it. Even Einstein!! BTW, while you're doing copy and paste, some other students are progressing. ASUU don't mind giving you a shoulder to lean on. That's what we're here for grin grin
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Nobody: 1:26pm On Dec 02, 2019
Agboriotejoye:


grin grin I see where ur pain is now. So you can only do copy and paste algorithms. Eyaaa. Sorry eehn. But you should have taken life by the scruff of the neck and developed urself now? Or do you think Oracle developer was taught how to develop it by his lecturers. If you're dull, you're dull. There's nothing any lecturer can do abt it. Even Einstein!! BTW, while you're doing copy and paste, some other students are progressing. ASUU don't mind giving you a shoulder to lean on. That's what we're here for grin grin

guy - anyone working today is self taught now.
i am an engineer, and i am what i am today, inspite of you clowns, not because of you.

continue living in your empty delusions as your ship sinks around you.
continue churning out unemployable graduates who have to be extensively retrained

the preferred graduates in any blue chip company today, are those from private universities.
most of those from public universities today - na struggle to train them.
and going by your antics, i can see why. you have not changed. continue with your 1970s curriculum and mentality

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:40pm On Dec 02, 2019
thundafire:
just like working in an agency Sabbatical leave is dey same thing as taking, maternity leave and others cs u still receiving ur salary and other things attached just dat sabbatical last a year,taking a study leave u need to cater dat for ursef, visiting lecturers will be paid from dey school based on agreement while research Grant is totally different from others either u apply in ur school or through a donor body
Dat means you support hike in schl fees then I assume?
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by thatigboman: 1:50pm On Dec 02, 2019
shadeyinka:

I guess you didn't understand my point. Let me spell it out.

Let's assume that the FG kept 1trillion Naira with me and I fixed it in a bank. At an annual return rate of 6%, I'll be having a return of N6 billion Naira per annum. This looks impressive on the surface but the question is what work am I doing to generate the N6 billion?

Same is the question I have asked. The CBN money is the FG's money. Federal government made a law that mandates banks to "Bank" with the CBN. Every banking transactions end up with the CBN having their cut: so I ask what real work does CBN do that warrant that staff be paid well beyond fellow accountants and economists working in other agencies?

Its also like FIRS, even if they don't leave their offices, business owners will come to pay their taxes because without that, they can't get any government contracts. Theirs is even a little better than that of the CBN.
I see your issue is with how much CBN staff earn, not about the issue on ground. you, what work do you do that will make u earn more than a labourer or a mason or even a woman cooking mama put?
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Agboriotejoye(m): 1:51pm On Dec 02, 2019
ornicus:


guy - anyone working today is self taught now.
i am an engineer, and i am what i am today, inspite of you clowns, not because of you.

continue living in your empty delusions as your ship sinks around you.
continue churning out unemployable graduates who have to be extensively retrained

the preferred graduates in any blue chip company today, are those from private universities.
most of those from public universities today - na struggle to train them.
and going by your antics, i can see why. you have not changed. continue with your 1970s curriculum and mentality

Bla bla bla. You're still struggling to be coherent with all the tension and emotion tied up in ur chest.
So you think you could have been better than you are if the lecturers open ur head, drill through the concrete thick skull and download AI algorithms inside the halfwit brain you carry around. You should be thankful your lecturers are too smart to do that. Doing dat will make you mad since IQ is not upgraded simply by loading information. The students in private universities are still being taught by the lecturers of public universities; either directly as visiting lecturers, or indirectly by the product of public universities. So, if they are more employable than you, I suggest you check ur head, or better still hold the govt responsible to provide better amenities in public schools to aid ur slow self. Again, you can blame lecturers if it makes you sleep without nightmares. They're glad to help in our own little way. grin grin

P.S: All over the world, fresh graduates are trained in any industry they are employed. It is only delusional ignoramuses like you that hope the university is a training ground or a robotics factory. Pele tie cheesy cheesy

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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by ejimatic: 2:05pm On Dec 02, 2019
seguntijan:
Academic Staff Union of Universities (ASUU) has posed some tough questions to the Federal Government, asking why some federal agencies such as the Federal Inland Revenue Services, Central Bank of Nigeria and the Nigeria Deposit Insurance Corporation are not captured on the Integrated Payroll and Personnel Information System(IPPIS).
ASUU Chairman, University of Abuja branch, Dr. Kassim Umaru, raised the query while puncturing the insistence of the Federal Government that its members must enrol on the platform.
In a statement on Saturday, Umaru dismissed the payment system as a scam and said ASUU members will not join it.
The Office of Accountant-General of the Federation said that data of university workers and colleges of education be captured on the system between Monday November 25 and December 7.
Umaru said the National Executive Council of ASUU had a meeting and directed its members not to enrol, adding that the chapter will comply with the order from the national body.
Umaru argued that the payroll system is totally in violation of university autonomy and does not have any legal backing.
He faulted the government for resorting to threats whenever there was disagreement between the union and government.
Umaru urged the government to come to the table and discuss with the union instead of threatening to stop their salaries.
“As far as we are concerned in the union, we have worked and we must be paid. Eventually, if the government decides to stop our salary then the NEC will reconsider the decision of the government then appropriate action will be taken,”
“There is massive corruption in IPPIS. Did government care to investigate IPPIS itself? We are saying why is CBN not in IPPIS? Why is NDIC not in IPPIS? Why is Federal Inland Revenue not in IPPIS? But the lecturers who are just collecting stipends to be pulled into IPPIS so that our legal entitlement will not be paid.
“We are not going to allow it. We are not going to be part of the staff that are going to be enrolled in IPPIS. We took a resolution and we are reaffirming the direction of the national, that is NEC. NEC took a decision that we are not going to get enrolled into IPPIS and you know what our union is actually against is that the university has an autonomy and if you look at it clearly, this autonomy we are saying is enshrined in Section 2AA of the University Miscellaneous Provision Amendment Act of 2003 which clearly explained the role of the Governing Council.
“Even the Miscellaneous Act we are saying clearly stated that the power of the council shall be exercised as in the law and that status of each university. So it is clear we have an autonomy. Again, university is the peculiar nature of the appointment of university as academics. Our 2009 agreement which was negotiated by the federal government and our union is also there. So many issues are there and that is why our union is saying we should be allowed to produce a template which will have all these series of issues but not to have a center point of payment.”
Aspects not captured by the IPPIS:

As submitted by Abubakar Sabo, ASUU Chair UDUS:
1. Provision for external examination for PhD and MSC students.
2. Provision for the payment of External assessment to which many would not have benefitted from and become professors.
3. Provision for casual staff such as those cleaners and gardeners that keep the university environment clean.
4. Provision for adjunct and part time lecturers who are professionals in their field but could not take full time appointment because they are already working elsewhere.
5. Provision for international experts who would want to come from world recognised universities to come and establish new programs in our universities and share their wealth of experience with us.
6. Provision for post graduate supervision which was completely removed from the platform
The fact of the matter is that the government is saying universities should use their IGR to cater for all these and should this become a reality, universities will be left with no option but to re introduce tuition fees and charge higher fees from the students. Then we will now know that an average Nigerian cannot afford higher education again. That is world bank policy for you. The general idea is to localise our universities and make them unaccessible globally all in the name of a policy for payments of salary.

https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2019/11/30/ASUU-queries-fg-why-are-staff-of-cbn-ndic-firs-not-on-ippis/
. IPPS is essentially on salary. All that are listed above are taken care of from the IGR of each school. ASUhas no logical reason for not joining the new salary system.
Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by Ajibade123(m): 2:12pm On Dec 02, 2019
All these grammar in one sentence is that we will be going for strike soon
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Re: IPPIS: ASUU Asks FG Why Staff Of CBN, NDIC, FIRS Are Not On The Payment System by thundafire: 2:30pm On Dec 02, 2019
Agboriotejoye:

Dat means you support hike in schl fees then I assume?
I don't support cs federal government tells dem how to charge

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