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Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by Nobody: 8:26pm On Dec 08, 2019
Afamed:

The autonomy should also include ASUU paying their own salary, intervention fund and research intervention should all be taken care by ASUU until then, ASUU claimed of autonomous remains inconsequential.
A child claiming independent from his father, he sleeps in his father house, eats in his father house, drives his father cars, takes his school fee from his father saving.
FG must have been stupid to have signed the so-called autonomy pact with ASUU.
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by Behopeful: 8:28pm On Dec 08, 2019
adekolaelect:
We should reason and comment beyond petty sentiment .it is a shame to fail ICAN for the cannibal of AGF but this is not the time to debate on that the issues on ground is why ,what and where are ASSU hiding that make it difficult for them to register under IPPIS which other government agencies had done without making too much trouble like ASSU is doing presently They should obey the regulation of mother regency not to come on Media to attack the person of individual who doesn't have power to stop government agencies not to carry out its job functionalities. Tell us why is not good or the negativity aspect of you registering under IPPIS So Nigerians can justify what and where you belong to with IPPIS .Bcs it is very easy for your enemies to pretend as your friends not until they are exposed .

Some of the aspects not captured by the IPPIS:
As submitted by Abubakar Sabo, ASUU Chair UDUS:

1. Provision for external examination for PhD and MSC students.

2. Provision for the payment of External assessment to which many would not have benefitted from and become professors.

3. Provision for casual staff such as those cleaners and gardeners that keep the university environment clean.

4. Provision for adjunct and part time lecturers who are professionals in their field but could not take full time appointment because they are already working elsewhere.

5. Provision for international experts who would want to come from world recognised universities to come and establish new programs in our universities and share their wealth of experience with us.

6. Provision for post graduate supervision which was completely removed from the platform

The fact of the matter is that the government is saying universities should use their IGR to cater for all these and should this become a reality, universities will be left with no option but to re introduce tuition fees and charge higher fees from the students. Then we will now know that an average Nigerian cannot afford higher education again. That is world bank policy for you. The general idea is to localise our universities and make them unaccessible globally all in the name of a policy for payments of salary.
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Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by nameo: 8:36pm On Dec 08, 2019
backnbeta:

The system is questionable and flawed, it will not work with ASUU...ASUU can't easily be integrated on that platform due to some factors identified and pointed out.

Factors like what??
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by treshbanj: 9:00pm On Dec 08, 2019
ursullalinda:
What do you expect?......when oga @ d top made certificate look like NEPA bill.
grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by Nobody: 9:13pm On Dec 08, 2019
nameo:


Factors like what??
Ask the account clerk made agf
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by Nobody: 9:15pm On Dec 08, 2019
Behopeful:


Some of the aspects not captured by the IPPIS:
As submitted by Abubakar Sabo, ASUU Chair UDUS:

1. Provision for external examination for PhD and MSC students.

2. Provision for the payment of External assessment to which many would not have benefitted from and become professors.

3. Provision for casual staff such as those cleaners and gardeners that keep the university environment clean.

4. Provision for adjunct and part time lecturers who are professionals in their field but could not take full time appointment because they are already working elsewhere.

5. Provision for international experts who would want to come from world recognised universities to come and establish new programs in our universities and share their wealth of experience with us.

6. Provision for post graduate supervision which was completely removed from the platform

The fact of the matter is that the government is saying universities should use their IGR to cater for all these and should this become a reality, universities will be left with no option but to re introduce tuition fees and charge higher fees from the students. Then we will now know that an average Nigerian cannot afford higher education again. That is world bank policy for you. The general idea is to localise our universities and make them unaccessible globally all in the name of a policy for payments of salary.
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Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by wwwihy: 9:22pm On Dec 08, 2019
But the guy is ANAN member, both ICAN and ANAN are now recognised by Nigeria Laws and IFAC.

ICAN was the referee for ANAN during the later application to IFAC

ICAN is no longer greater than ANAN

So he is a Certified National Accountant.

So ASUU left SUBSTANCE of the matter to pursue FORM of the crumbs in the matter?

Don't quote me if you are not a Chartered Accountant

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Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by wwwihy: 9:32pm On Dec 08, 2019
Behopeful:


Some of the aspects not captured by the IPPIS:
As submitted by Abubakar Sabo, ASUU Chair UDUS:

1. Provision for external examination for PhD and MSC students.

2. Provision for the payment of External assessment to which many would not have benefitted from and become professors.

3. Provision for casual staff such as those cleaners and gardeners that keep the university environment clean.

4. Provision for adjunct and part time lecturers who are professionals in their field but could not take full time appointment because they are already working elsewhere.

5. Provision for international experts who would want to come from world recognised universities to come and establish new programs in our universities and share their wealth of experience with us.

6. Provision for post graduate supervision which was completely removed from the platform

The fact of the matter is that the government is saying universities should use their IGR to cater for all these and should this become a reality, universities will be left with no option but to re introduce tuition fees and charge higher fees from the students. Then we will now know that an average Nigerian cannot afford higher education again. That is world bank policy for you. The general idea is to localise our universities and make them unaccessible globally all in the name of a policy for payments of salary.
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Bros, it is a simple thing to do with those allowances. System can always be modified to comply with any requirement.

Some of these lecturers are just daft.

It is never a big deal

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Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by respect80(m): 10:14pm On Dec 08, 2019
The so called IPPIS is nothing but a fraud!

In as much as it is a digitalized system to enhance ease of payment while saving the government of the menace of ghost workers and fund mismanagement, it takes more than a deep look to understand the height of corruption perpetrated by IPPIS against the government and government workers. It is more like a reality of the popular saying, "monkey d work baboon d chop."

The organisation (IPPIS) is infamous for varying forms of corrupt practices such as : underpaying workers, no payment at all, unwarranted charges on payment, nonchalant attitude towards people's complaints etc. But sadly, in Nigeria, we hardly complain about something until it directly affects us and this self-centeredness is the reason why evil and corruption has been rooted in all of our system.
I remember how my mum was underpaid by 17k and 32k differences in February and April of this year respectively for no known reason at all. She filed complaints and one of their staff even extorted her of the sum of 3k claiming he had rectified the issue and promised her to be patient until next payment before she gets her balance but up till date, nothing has been done about the issue and each time my mum calls him, he responds as if he's meeting her for the first time.
In summary, IPPIS is a not only an emblem of corruption but a failed system as well which points to the very reason why the dons so despise it.
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by Afamed: 11:04pm On Dec 08, 2019
Smartchoiice:

FG must have been stupid to have signed the so-called autonomy pact with ASUU.
Hold your dying PDP responsible for such. Nigeria must move forward
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by Afamed: 11:06pm On Dec 08, 2019
respect80:
The so called IPPIS is nothing but a fraud!

In as much as it is a digitalized system to enhance ease of payment while saving the government of the menace of ghost workers and fund mismanagement, it takes more than a deep look to understand the height of corruption perpetrated by IPPIS against the government and government workers. It is more like a reality of the popular saying, "monkey d work baboon d chop."

The organisation (IPPIS) is infamous for varying forms of corrupt practices such as : underpaying workers, no payment at all, unwarranted charges on payment, nonchalant attitude towards people's complaints etc. But sadly, in Nigeria, we hardly complain about something until it directly affects us and this self-centeredness is the reason why evil and corruption has been rooted in all of our system.
I remember how my mum was underpaid by 17k and 32k differences in February and April of this year respectively for no known reason at all. She filed complaints and one of their staff even extorted her of the sum of 3k claiming he had rectified the issue and promised her to be patient until next payment before she gets her balance but up till date, nothing has been done about the issue and each time my mum calls him, he responds as if he's meeting her for the first time.
In summary, IPPIS is a not only an emblem of corruption but a failed system as well which points to the very reason why the dons so despise it.
Come up with another half truth excuses we are used to all these fallacies
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by seunmsg(m): 1:17am On Dec 09, 2019
Smartchoiice:


Go ahead and enrol CBN staff, FIRS staff and NNPC staff first they're directly under the FG

For now, IPPIS is meant for government workers that draw their salaries from consolidated revenue fund. CBN, FIRS, NNPC workers are not paid from CRF so they cannot join IPPIS for now. University lecturers on the other hand are paid from CRF just like over 800 MDAS. They cannot be exempted from joining IPPIS no matter how they try to blackmail the government.
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by seunmsg(m): 1:19am On Dec 09, 2019
backnbeta:

The system is questionable and flawed, it will not work with ASUU...ASUU can't easily be integrated on that platform due to some factors identified and pointed out.

Can you list the factors so that we can trash them one after the other here.
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by seunmsg(m): 1:41am On Dec 09, 2019
Behopeful:


Some of the aspects not captured by the IPPIS:
As submitted by Abubakar Sabo, ASUU Chair UDUS:

1. Provision for external examination for PhD and MSC students.

2. Provision for the payment of External assessment to which many would not have benefitted from and become professors.

3. Provision for casual staff such as those cleaners and gardeners that keep the university environment clean.

4. Provision for adjunct and part time lecturers who are professionals in their field but could not take full time appointment because they are already working elsewhere.

5. Provision for international experts who would want to come from world recognised universities to come and establish new programs in our universities and share their wealth of experience with us.

6. Provision for post graduate supervision which was completely removed from the platform

The fact of the matter is that the government is saying universities should use their IGR to cater for all these and should this become a reality, universities will be left with no option but to re introduce tuition fees and charge higher fees from the students. Then we will now know that an average Nigerian cannot afford higher education again. That is world bank policy for you. The general idea is to localise our universities and make them unaccessible globally all in the name of a policy for payments of salary.
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If the above points are the reasons ASUU have given for refusing to join IPPIS, then I must say ASUU members are more ignorant than the AGF they referred to as “account clerk”.

IPPIS is strictly a payroll management software and not an accounting system to take care of the university overhead cost.

A payroll software takes care of only the monthly salaries of workers of an organization and not other cost. Points 1, 2, 4, 5 and 6 are totally irrelevant to the monthly salaries of lecturers. IPPIS takes care of only salaries of full staff and nothing else. Monies paid to external examiners, international experts, external assessment to become professors etc are not part of the monthly salaries of full time university lecturers. They are allowances that are paid outside of the normal salaries and university are given monthly overhead to take care of such payments.

Point number three is even meaningless because casual staff such as cleaners and gardners are not ASUU members. If they are unionized at all, they should be members of NASUU and to the best of my knowledge, all other unions in universities have agreed to join IPPIS except ASUU. So, what’s ASUU’s business with casual staff?
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by naijaking1: 2:01am On Dec 09, 2019
Inability to pass any standardized exam is the only qualification required for serving in Buhari government.
I wonder why
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by Nobody: 4:29am On Dec 09, 2019
seunmsg:


For now, IPPIS is meant for government workers that draw their salaries from consolidated revenue fund. CBN, FIRS, NNPC workers are not paid from CRF so they cannot join IPPIS for now. University lecturers on the other hand are paid from CRF just like over 800 MDAS. They cannot be exempted from joining IPPIS no matter how they try to blackmail the government.

Oga let me know when you are home this Christmas.
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by adedayoa2(f): 4:44am On Dec 09, 2019
wwwihy:
But the guy is ANAN member, both ICAN and ANAN are now recognised by Nigeria Laws and IFAC.

ICAN was the referee for ANAN during the later application to IFAC

ICAN is no longer greater than ANAN

So he is a Certified National Accountant.

So ASUU left SUBSTANCE of the matter to pursue FORM of the crumbs in the matter?

Don't quote me if you are not a Chartered Accountant
ASUU is too petty, he didn't pass ICAN and he is putting them on their toes.
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by kokoA(m): 6:37am On Dec 09, 2019
Smartchoiice:

ASUU has autonomy pact with the government. The question is why is the government trying to break its pact with ASUU?
Autonomy does not give them the right to decide how to be paid. It is like telling your employer that you prefer being paid in cash than crediting your salary account whereas every other person in the organization is being paid electronically. The most important thing should be you being paid the agreed amount that's all..
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by Nobody: 6:47am On Dec 09, 2019
kokoA:
Autonomy does not give them the right to decide how to be paid. It is like telling your employer that you prefer being paid in cash than crediting your salary account whereas every other person in the organization is being paid electronically. The most important thing should be you being paid the agreed amount that's all..
It gives the university governing councils.
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by respect80(m): 7:00am On Dec 09, 2019
Afamed:

Come up with another half truth excuses we are used to all these fallacies

It's either you don't know the meaning of the word "fallacy," or you don't know when, where, and how it should be used so continue in your illogical conclusion by assuming my submission must be false since it hasn't happened to you or someone you know.

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Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by kokoA(m): 7:03am On Dec 09, 2019
Smartchoiice:

It gives the university governing councils.
The governing council doesn't pay their salaries. Here's an illustration, you (governing council) just started a business and your rich uncle(FG) instead of giving you money decides to pay all your staff salaries for some years till you are able stabilize your business and start making profit as his own contribution. Does your staff members have the right to tell your uncle how they want their salaries paid?
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by seunmsg(m): 7:07am On Dec 09, 2019
Smartchoiice:


Oga let me know when you are home this Christmas.

You mean Okemesi?
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by Staro: 7:08am On Dec 09, 2019
Racoon:
shocked Truly! An ICAN failure serving as accountant general of the federation?


Only in a Buhari regime
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by seunmsg(m): 9:05am On Dec 09, 2019
Racoon:
shocked Truly! An ICAN failure serving as accountant general of the federation?

He is a member of ANAN. ANAN is also a professional Accounting body in Nigeria that has legal recognition.
Re: Ippis Enrollment: ASUU Slams Agf, Ahmed Idris, Says He Couldn't Pass Ican Exam by adekolaelect(m): 9:02pm On Dec 10, 2019
Behopeful:


Some of the aspects not captured by the IPPIS:
As submitted by Abubakar Sabo, ASUU Chair UDUS:

1. Provision for external examination for PhD and MSC students.

2. Provision for the payment of External assessment to which many would not have benefitted from and become professors.

3. Provision for casual staff such as those cleaners and gardeners that keep the university environment clean.

4. Provision for adjunct and part time lecturers who are professionals in their field but could not take full time appointment because they are already working elsewhere.

5. Provision for international experts who would want to come from world recognised universities to come and establish new programs in our universities and share their wealth of experience with us.

6. Provision for post graduate supervision which was completely removed from the platform

The fact of the matter is that the government is saying universities should use their IGR to cater for all these and should this become a reality, universities will be left with no option but to re introduce tuition fees and charge higher fees from the students. Then we will now know that an average Nigerian cannot afford higher education again. That is world bank policy for you. The general idea is to localise our universities and make them unaccessible globally all in the name of a policy for payments of salary.
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thanks for your matured enlightenments OK if I can understand you all those you mention is being carrying out without the knowledge of federal government before and the government is now planing on how to cut ASSS's hand from accessing fund that can cater for those responsibilities ?Nigeria get many problems

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