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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by giselle237: 9:55pm On Dec 19, 2019
Oh. Then provide a longer bank statement of 1 year to the ECO. That way you give them a better picture of how ‘well’ you have been living as shown by your bank statement of a longer period of time and not because of your visa application. This worked for a friend after his initial application was denied.
They get to see over time your opening balances and so forth and also better understand that it wasn’t hurriedly beefed up.
dilodavid:
I have noted all you have said. My point actually is, how else can one possibly prove source of opening balance since employment documents are no longer sufficient for this purpose according to ECOs in recent time?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Nobody: 10:01pm On Dec 19, 2019
giselle237:
Oh. Then provide a longer bank statement of 1 year to the ECO. That way you give them a better picture of how ‘well’ you have been living as shown by your bank statement of a longer period of time and not because of your visa application. This worked for a friend after his initial application was denied.
They get to see over time your opening balances and so forth and also understand that it wasn’t hurriedly beefed up.
Ok. I think whoever is refused on the basis that the source of his/her opening balance isn't known even after providing employment papers can also complain and get his/her decision overturned.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by giselle237: 10:31pm On Dec 19, 2019
.... if only all complaints were overturned in such manner... so easy to say.. doesn’t happen like that.. nobody needs wait for refusal .. the onus is on the applicant to provide each AND every documentation to prove origin of funds.. again, do not wait for refusal.
dilodavid:
Ok. I think whoever is refused on the basis that the source of his/her opening balance isn't known even after providing employment papers can also complain and get his/her decision overturned.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Paulvand:
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Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by giselle237:
Blessingssss... I calculated b4 speaking earlier... you proposed spending over 2 times your disposable income.. not below Sir
1.5m divided by 12 is 125k per month. In addition to disposable income of salary which is 170k. Add these two and get 295k..
800k is what u planned to spend on this trip, thats almost 3 times of 295k. tighten all loose ends in ur application(this is by the way actually)
Recheck your opening balance and closing balance by submission day... they say they didn’t have substantial proof from what u submitted to suggest the opening balance plus the multiple credits... trust me I think u understand what they might be saying... if it still doesn’t make sense then file an official complaint. Seek redress.
Paulvand:
Proof for the 1.5 earnings was submitted! It’s a monthly returns on a property investment! All payment slips and supporting documents was provided! Also my disposable amount won’t be calculated with salary alone but with my other earnings in which the 1.5 extra yearly income seems noticeable and has been defended! The eco never mentioned about not been satisfied about it but went straight to the opening balance! There were other little credits that wasn’t properly explained though! The credits were not consistent so i didn’t bother! Maybe that was the problem? But all together in total im spending exactly or a little below of my 2 month disposable income!
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by jamela(f): 2:12pm On Dec 20, 2019
Hi Justwise and good fellows in the house,

I am currently on my Doctorate Extension Scheme visa after completion of my PhD. The following is a summary of my situation.

Summary:
Point 1: I'm currently enroute a comfortable 6 years in UK continuous residence and hope to make the 10 year ILR.
Point 2: I have spent 5 of this 6 continuous years studying without breaks. the 6th current year is on a Doctoral extension scheme (1 year visa) expiring next year.
Point 3: I now need to earn 4 years more to qualify for the 10 year ILR.

However,
Point 4: The UK has an 8 year maximum study cap. As I have also held a previous (since expired) tier 4 visa on a masters course for 17 months (i.e the standard 1 year 5 months visa), it doesn't count towards continuous residence now. This is because I went back to Nigeria after I completed it and spent more than 180 days there before returning to the UK to study again. Even so, this study period is still counted by the UK Home Office as 1 year 5 months used towards the 8 year study cap.

Therefore,
Point 5: My total study period in the UK so far adds up to 6 years 5 months, which leaves me with 19 months (1year 7 months) left to use on the 8 year study cap. (but remember point 3 above).

At Present:
I learnt about the return of the Post study work scheme, though it isn't yet in effect, I heard it would only be valid for those graduating from 2021 onwards.

My Intention:
I plan to leave the UK after my DES expires next year for 6 months and return in less than 180 days to start the MBA. (This gives me 6 months of continuous residency even though I wouldn't be present in the UK for that time as long as I return within 180 days).

After the MBA programme:
6months (outside UK) + 18 months (MBA) = 2 years
Post study work visa = 2 years
This adds up to the 4 years that I need to qualify for ILR.

Questions:
Will the new PostStudyWork visas start automatically after 2021 Masters completion, or these would have to be applied for?
Is it possible for me to apply for an 18 month MBA course, even though I now have a PhD?
Does anyone know any UK universities that offer 18 month MBA programmes that begin in March/April 2021?

Would there be any issues with my current situation and intentions above?
Other suggestions are welcome.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Dee282: 2:30pm On Dec 20, 2019
With your PHD, I suppose you can get a job in a company that'd be willing to sponsor your visa. This will be much easier for you rather than buying time.

jamela:
Hi Justwise and good fellows in the house,

I am currently on my Doctorate Extension Scheme visa after completion of my PhD. The following is a summary of my situation.

Summary:
Point 1: I'm currently enroute a comfortable 6 years in UK continuous residence and hope to make the 10 year ILR.
Point 2: I have spent 5 of this 6 continuous years studying without breaks. the 6th current year is on a Doctoral extension scheme (1 year visa) expiring next year.
Point 3: I now need to earn 4 years more to qualify for the 10 year ILR.

However,
Point 4: The UK has an 8 year maximum study cap. As I have also held a previous (since expired) tier 4 visa on a masters course for 17 months (i.e the standard 1 year 5 months visa), it doesn't count towards continuous residence now. This is because I went back to Nigeria after I completed it and spent more than 180 days there before returning to the UK to study again. Even so, this study period is still counted by the UK Home Office as 1 year 5 months used towards the 8 year study cap.

Therefore,
Point 5: My total study period in the UK so far adds up to 6 years 5 months, which leaves me with 19 months (1year 7 months) left to use on the 8 year study cap. (but remember point 3 above).

At Present:
I learnt about the return of the Post study work scheme, though it isn't yet in effect, I heard it would only be valid for those graduating from 2021 onwards.

My Intention:
I plan to leave the UK after my DES expires next year for 6 months and return in less than 180 days to start the MBA. (This gives me 6 months of continuous residency even though I wouldn't be present in the UK for that time as long as I return within 180 days).

After the MBA programme:
6months (outside UK) + 18 months (MBA) = 2 years
Post study work visa = 2 years
This adds up to the 4 years that I need to qualify for ILR.

Questions:
Will the new PostStudyWork visas start automatically after 2021 Masters completion, or these would have to be applied for?
Is it possible for me to apply for an 18 month MBA course, even though I now have a PhD?
Does anyone know any UK universities that offer 18 month MBA programmes that begin in March/April 2021?

Would there be any issues with my current situation and intentions above?
Other suggestions are welcome.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by jamela(f): 2:49pm On Dec 20, 2019
Dee282:
With your PHD, I suppose you can get a job in a company that'd be willing to sponsor your visa. This will be much easier for you rather than buying time.
Thanks for replying to my post. Now people have suggested to keep trying for a Tier 2, but we know how that can be, you literarily have to stay with the company for 3 years then hope they extend it further to cover the 5 years. After what happened to a friend of mine that lost her job on a Tier 2 visa and had to return back to base, I don't want the uncertainty associated with it. I already have 6 years in the bag, i just need 4 more and want as much flexibility as possible to move between well paying companies without the hassle of RLMT if I want to switch to another company while on T2. That's why I'm keeping an eye out for what other options are available. I am also considering Tier 1 routes, but I want to see if an MBA would give me exposure to business for that, as I am not really currently business inclined. I can then choose either to go for Start-up afterwards or just sit in with the new PSW depending on how it is applied (both of which last 2 years with no obligation to be attached to a company that may or may not decide to keep me after 3 years of labour).
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Candybright: 3:05pm On Dec 20, 2019
Is 8:30am appointment free?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Dee282: 4:01pm On Dec 20, 2019
I am afraid you'd have to wait till April to see the updated immigration rules and how it will apply to you..

jamela:
Thanks for replying to my post. Now people have suggested to keep trying for a Tier 2, but we know how that can be, you literarily have to stay with the company for 3 years then hope they extend it further to cover the 5 years. After what happened to a friend of mine that lost her job on a Tier 2 visa and had to return back to base, I don't want the uncertainty associated with it. I already have 6 years in the bag, i just need 4 more and want as much flexibility as possible to move between well paying companies without the hassle of RLMT if I want to switch to another company while on T2. That's why I'm keeping an eye out for what other options are available. I am also considering Tier 1 routes, but I want to see if an MBA would give me exposure to business for that, as I am not really currently business inclined. I can then choose either to go for Start-up afterwards or just sit in with the new PSW depending on how it is applied (both of which last 2 years with no obligation to be attached to a company that may or may not decide to keep me after 3 years of labour).
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by DMainMan: 4:28pm On Dec 20, 2019
jamela:
Thanks for replying to my post. Now people have suggested to keep trying for a Tier 2, but we know how that can be, you literarily have to stay with the company for 3 years then hope they extend it further to cover the 5 years. After what happened to a friend of mine that lost her job on a Tier 2 visa and had to return back to base, I don't want the uncertainty associated with it. I already have 6 years in the bag, i just need 4 more and want as much flexibility as possible to move between well paying companies without the hassle of RLMT if I want to switch to another company while on T2. That's why I'm keeping an eye out for what other options are available. I am also considering Tier 1 routes, but I want to see if an MBA would give me exposure to business for that, as I am not really currently business inclined. I can then choose either to go for Start-up afterwards or just sit in with the new PSW depending on how it is applied (both of which last 2 years with no obligation to be attached to a company that may or may not decide to keep me after 3 years of labour).
Dont waste your money for MBA. Just try and get Tier 2. If the company does not extend, then you can try the study route. You can also try other PhD skilled job through Tier 1 Exceptional Talent. The company will let you know if they wont sponsor you prior aa year so you can plan ahead. You can even look for other Tier 2 job again. That is not a problem at all.

Also, their will be updated immigration rules. There is currently a notion for permanent immigration just like in Australia and Canada.
That will even be the easiest and best option for you. With your UK education and work experience, you should be able to secure permanent status through this scheme.

Just try to look for Tier 2 job now and obtain valuable experience.

Take care.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Arise01: 6:34pm On Dec 20, 2019
Hello family, I salute u guys. pls how long does it take to get a date in Britain embassy for biometric? Also what's the duration for the whole process.. thanks
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 8:49pm On Dec 20, 2019
jamela:
Hi Justwise and good fellows in the house,

I am currently on my Doctorate Extension Scheme visa after completion of my PhD. The following is a summary of my situation.

Summary:
Point 1: I'm currently enroute a comfortable 6 years in UK continuous residence and hope to make the 10 year ILR.
Point 2: I have spent 5 of this 6 continuous years studying without breaks. the 6th current year is on a Doctoral extension scheme (1 year visa) expiring next year.
Point 3: I now need to earn 4 years more to qualify for the 10 year ILR.

However,
Point 4: The UK has an 8 year maximum study cap. As I have also held a previous (since expired) tier 4 visa on a masters course for 17 months (i.e the standard 1 year 5 months visa), it doesn't count towards continuous residence now. This is because I went back to Nigeria after I completed it and spent more than 180 days there before returning to the UK to study again. Even so, this study period is still counted by the UK Home Office as 1 year 5 months used towards the 8 year study cap.

Therefore,
Point 5: My total study period in the UK so far adds up to 6 years 5 months, which leaves me with 19 months (1year 7 months) left to use on the 8 year study cap. (but remember point 3 above).

At Present:
I learnt about the return of the Post study work scheme, though it isn't yet in effect, I heard it would only be valid for those graduating from 2021 onwards.

My Intention:
I plan to leave the UK after my DES expires next year for 6 months and return in less than 180 days to start the MBA. (This gives me 6 months of continuous residency even though I wouldn't be present in the UK for that time as long as I return within 180 days).


After the MBA programme:
6months (outside UK) + 18 months (MBA) = 2 years
Post study work visa = 2 years
This adds up to the 4 years that I need to qualify for ILR.

Questions:
Will the new PostStudyWork visas start automatically after 2021 Masters completion, or these would have to be applied for?
Is it possible for me to apply for an 18 month MBA course, even though I now have a PhD?
Does anyone know any UK universities that offer 18 month MBA programmes that begin in March/April 2021?

Would there be any issues with my current situation and intentions above?
Other suggestions are welcome.
You have a very good understanding of the rule regarding 8yrs limit but i don't think your intention will work.

If the rule is followed strictly you will not be able to get MBA admission but if you do then getting a visa will be an issue because that will give you more than 8yrs duration in the UK.

If you can get a tie 2 job that will be your best bet, with 3yrs tie 2 visa you are closer to ILR than gambling with MBA route.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by jamela(f): 9:05pm On Dec 20, 2019
justwise:
You have a very good understanding of the rule regarding 8yrs limit but i don't think your intention will work.

If the rule is followed strictly you will not be able to get MBA admission but if you do then getting a visa will be an issue because that will give you more than 8yrs duration in the UK.

If you can get a tie 2 job that will be your best bet, with 3yrs tie 2 visa you are closer to ILR than gambling with MBA route.
Hi thanks for your response Justwise,

If the new 2 year PSW will be applied directly to the Tier4 visa when its initially granted for the MBA, then I see why it would take me past the 8 year study limit, and hence I wont be getting it.
but if i am issued with 18months only Tier 4 visa and required to apply separately after completion of the course for the PSW, then I should be safely within my 8 year limit right? (I am not currently studying, as i'm on DES, my current total study period is 6years5months and I still have 19 months before I use up the 8 year study cap).

I know Tier 2 is what everyone says, but I am worried about where to get the 1 year from if the employers refuse to extend past the 3 years. Also I have heard to switch to another Tier 2, the new employer needs to conduct RLMT. So I might as well just do the MBA for 18 months, start PSW and get any job i want free of sponsorship and RLMT for 2 years then apply for ILR.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 9:56pm On Dec 20, 2019
jamela:
Hi thanks for your response Justwise,

If the new 2 year PSW will be applied directly to the Tier4 visa when its initially granted for the MBA, then I see why it would take me past the 8 year study limit, and hence I wont be getting it.
but if i am issued with 18months only Tier 4 visa and required to apply separately after completion of the course for the PSW, then I should be safely within my 8 year limit right? (I am not currently studying, as i'm on DES, my current total study period is 6years5months and I still have 19 months before I use up the 8 year study cap).

I know Tier 2 is what everyone says, but I am worried about where to get the 1 year from if the employers refuse to extend past the 3 years. Also I have heard to switch to another Tier 2, the new employer needs to conduct RLMT. So I might as well just do the MBA for 18 months, start PSW and get any job i want free of sponsorship and RLMT for 2 years then apply for ILR.
Then that is an added advantage but can you do MBA as a PhD holder? Have asked around about that
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by jamela(f): 11:29pm On Dec 20, 2019
justwise:
Then that is an added advantage but can you do MBA as a PhD holder? Have asked around about that
That's what I'm not sure of. I know for sure I can't do another masters in a science field because it wouldn't demonstrate academic progression (considering I already have a science PhD). While an MBA is more business inclined. I would like to know if I can still do an MBA given my circumstances.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Sulis: 12:09am On Dec 21, 2019
Good evening gurus.. please how much is uk 6 moths visit visa now?
Thank you
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Ashirioluwa: 12:34am On Dec 21, 2019
Candybright:
Is 8:30am appointment free?
No
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Candybright: 12:52am On Dec 21, 2019
Ashirioluwa:
No
cry but there wasn't any option to pay when it was clicked on.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Sweetchilli(f): 6:39am On Dec 21, 2019
The 8.30 appointment is free

Candybright:
cry but there wasn't any option to pay when it was clicked on.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 7:41am On Dec 21, 2019
jamela:
That's what I'm not sure of. I know for sure I can't do another masters in a science field because it wouldn't demonstrate academic progression (considering I already have a science PhD). While an MBA is more business inclined. I would like to know if I can still do an MBA given my circumstances.
PhD is the pick of anybody's academic achievement and you should be proud of that, MBA is a step back from where you are in my opinion.

I suggest you go through work routes and don't worry about the remaining one year, with your academic achievement + work experience your chances of landing another job is higher.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by justwise(mod): 7:45am On Dec 21, 2019
opomulero:
mornin all
when can someone start withdrawal on account submitted for uk visa
We don't entertain this sort of question here, you stated in your application that you have certain amount of money for the trip and now you want to withdraw it after submitting? That shows that the money is not there for the trip and you are misrepresenting your situation
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Candybright: 11:05am On Dec 21, 2019
Sweetchilli:
The 8.30 appointment is free
Haaaa, thank you o.
Mind don dey cut already and he wanted to cancel it o later today when he's got time. Got no time to be paying extra cash not like it's an emergency travel. Thanks
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by omopapa: 12:54pm On Dec 21, 2019
Proposing an MBA after ur PhD is a risk.

Not sure what u majored in ur PhD but I guess the best option for you is the tier 1 entrepreneur visa.

Gather the money u want to use for the MBA in an account for 3 months.

Get someone to write you a business plan relating to what you studied at PhD level or even any form of business showing how you want to invest that money in the British economy.

jamela:
Hi Justwise and good fellows in the house,

I am currently on my Doctorate Extension Scheme visa after completion of my PhD. The following is a summary of my situation.

Summary:
Point 1: I'm currently enroute a comfortable 6 years in UK continuous residence and hope to make the 10 year ILR.
Point 2: I have spent 5 of this 6 continuous years studying without breaks. the 6th current year is on a Doctoral extension scheme (1 year visa) expiring next year.
Point 3: I now need to earn 4 years more to qualify for the 10 year ILR.

However,
Point 4: The UK has an 8 year maximum study cap. As I have also held a previous (since expired) tier 4 visa on a masters course for 17 months (i.e the standard 1 year 5 months visa), it doesn't count towards continuous residence now. This is because I went back to Nigeria after I completed it and spent more than 180 days there before returning to the UK to study again. Even so, this study period is still counted by the UK Home Office as 1 year 5 months used towards the 8 year study cap.

Therefore,
Point 5: My total study period in the UK so far adds up to 6 years 5 months, which leaves me with 19 months (1year 7 months) left to use on the 8 year study cap. (but remember point 3 above).

At Present:
I learnt about the return of the Post study work scheme, though it isn't yet in effect, I heard it would only be valid for those graduating from 2021 onwards.

My Intention:
I plan to leave the UK after my DES expires next year for 6 months and return in less than 180 days to start the MBA. (This gives me 6 months of continuous residency even though I wouldn't be present in the UK for that time as long as I return within 180 days).

After the MBA programme:
6months (outside UK) + 18 months (MBA) = 2 years
Post study work visa = 2 years
This adds up to the 4 years that I need to qualify for ILR.

Questions:
Will the new PostStudyWork visas start automatically after 2021 Masters completion, or these would have to be applied for?
Is it possible for me to apply for an 18 month MBA course, even though I now have a PhD?
Does anyone know any UK universities that offer 18 month MBA programmes that begin in March/April 2021?

Would there be any issues with my current situation and intentions above?
Other suggestions are welcome.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by iyatrustee(f): 2:44pm On Dec 21, 2019
I have a valid visa but want to apply for my kids. Will i need to attach my payslips, employment letter etc as their sponsor?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by seyisanya(m): 4:34pm On Dec 21, 2019
Most definitely!
iyatrustee:
I have a valid visa but want to apply for my kids. Will i need to attach my payslips, employment letter etc as their sponsor?
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Vicas2000: 4:35pm On Dec 21, 2019
iyatrustee:
I have a valid visa but want to apply for my kids. Will i need to attach my payslips, employment letter etc as their sponsor?
Yes you do. You also need to attach scanned copy of your passport and visa page.

Other docs you need are...their birth cert. Letter from their school....marriage cert (if you are married)....letter from hubby giving you permission to travel with the kids (Yes...I know. You don't need his permission but it's to show he is aware of the trip) etc.

There are other docs. But maybe other people will shed light on this too.

If you are travelling with them...then you need to state that they are applying so they can travel with you.
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by Masking:
justwise:
PhD is the pick of anybody's academic achievement and you should be proud of that, MBA is a step back from where you are in my opinion.

I suggest you go through work routes and don't worry about the remaining one year, with your academic achievement + work experience your chances of landing another job is higher.
Indeed PhD is the peak.
But boss, an MBA however can become really handy in fast tracking to management and leadership positions. Pursuing one after a phd shouldn't be considered a retrogression.

@jamela
York university is offering an MBA within your time frame
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by toperino: 7:42pm On Dec 21, 2019
I want to thank everyone here for their guidance and useful information as I have finally been granted 6 months visitor visa

I also want to specially thank @justblow for his advise when I was refused, which gave me strength to carry on

Thank you everyone once again
Re: General UK Visa Enquiries - Part 4 by opomulero(m): 11:26pm On Dec 21, 2019
justwise:
We don't entertain this sort of question here, you stated in your application that you have certain amount of money for the trip and now you want to withdraw it after submitting? That shows that the money is not there for the trip and you are misrepresenting your situation
no im not withdrawing all my money o, i mean just to withdraw for normal daily runnings like 20k just for upkeeps, after submission i haven't touched it, dts why im asking

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