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IAmStrange:
So there are some people who will appear like practising Muslims but they belong to wrong sects. amongst them are those who you said you see celebrating Christmas and Maulud.

midnighter:
I am happy that the Prophet predicted that but thats not what I asked you.

Do practising Muslims celebrate Mawlid or not?

Whether you think they are or arent in "right sects" is not an issue. I dont necessarily believe that some Christians sects are "right" but it doesnt change the reality that they identify as Christians.

And I see how you supported that guy to be cursing people when you claim to be a Salafi; is it the Prophet's way

When I told you that they are intolerant you laughed at me yet youre still supporting that vile fellow. One oily finger stains the rest, I hope you know that?

IAmStrange:
Let's be sincere here... Did you not see that Prophecy? Did you not contemplate it?

it said that my Ummah will split into sects and all of them are on the path of Hell. And I explained that it means that there are some people who identify "as practising Muslims" like u are putting it but they belong to deviant sects. They are upon falsehood. so The fact that they appear like "practising Muslims" doesn't matter. What matters is what faith and methodology they are upon; if it's like how the Prophet and his companions practised Islam as explained in that former post.

I believe u are intelligent enough to understand it but if you are not sincere and open minded, you will still continue to attack the obvious truth in this.

And whatever Khaleel does that's not right, may Allaah forgive him for it same as me. No one is perfect and I don't support whatever he does that's not right. I support whatever he says that's right - in his points and argument.

IAmStrange:
Asalam Alaykum brother

A beloved brother here waving at you.

I see you're been attacked by comments that reflect insincerity, ignorance, hypocrisy and sick mindedness

That's how we living now

We only have three Eids.... Fitr, Kabr and Jummah

Any other Eid/festival is a Bidah/not of Islam

midnighter:
Yes, I contemplated it and I have heard it plenty of times. This is why your logic is lacking:

The reality of a prophecy or prediction is not what we're talking about here. We are talking of an empirical number of people who identify as practising Muslims and not what the Prophet condemned them as. Whenever the Day of Judgement reaches is when you people will yarn that side.

That you or the Prophet saww or whoever dont see them as Muslims is not the point. They are listed in the census by the government as Muslims and that is the quantifiable number of people we're talking about here.

Do those people celebrate Mawlid, or not

Secondly, not supporting what is wrong is different from condemning something as wrong, which you mentioned with that 73 sect stuff.

Did the Prophet condemn them or just not support them?

So why cant you admit that that guy is a total disaster Yeah, may Allah forgive him but thats not the point.

The first time we spoke, you were quick to quote me with all sorts of angry faces and call me "ignorant" and tell me "Imes is coming" for simply stating my opinion without any insult. Yet now that your co-religionist is openly misbehaving, insulting another persons faith and thereby denigrating Islam and what it stands for, you have suddenly become a sanguine personality.

Thats quite hypocritical, isnt it?

midnighter:
I said it was celebrated all over the world. I didnt say it was celebrated in any specific country except Nigeria so youve shown your stark illiteracy once again.

By the way since when is Saudi Arabia the pacesetter for Islam? When most Muslims dont even like or agree with them?

Why were women restricted from driving until recently if Saudi Arabia is such a pinnacle? How come whenever somebody brings that up, you people quickly dismiss them as non-indicative of the Islamic world yet suddenly youre here defending them now that it suits you?

I repeat that you are just a Muslim by mouth. Waka

hisexcellency34:
All na for camera I no gree

Khaleell001:
You said ALL OVER THE WOLRD so stop trying to pull wool over my eyes.

ALL in English, means all WITHOUT exception.

If you were sincere you would have made an exception, but you made none.

I mentioned Saudi Arabia because from all we can observe among Muslims they seem to be the closest to what is in the Shari'ah.

If there was any country that should make announcement for the prophet's birthday it should be the Saudis more so in Makka,since it's the birth place of the prophet ,but not even one was mentioned.

Balogunodua:
Lol,
They won't even dare, so they are not bloodsucking when they were killing people for something that happened in faraway denmark or trying to impose sharia stupid law on christain in the north, when they refuse same bloodsucking muslims went on rampage killing non-muslims. So now you see no matter how many times you try to prove you religion to be peaceful, it can never be.

IAmStrange:
I hate to feel like I'm worth something before anyone and to say to people that I'm disappointed because I know I'm worth nothing to them.

But sincerely, I'm disappointed in you. I know I'm nothing before you but that's just how I feel.

The Prophet said they will identify as Muslims but will be on the path of Hell. Is it the "government" that has the right to decide who is right or wrong in Islam or the Prophet? That prophet wasn't just talking about hereafter. He was talking about here on earth too.

Is it not what we do here on earth that will determine our hereafter? Those people are wrong here on earth. They are on the path of Hell, here on earth. So what they are doing is wrong and is not of Islam and should not be used to judge Islam or used as a basis for Islamic rulings.

And yes the Prophet condemned them. They are on the path of Hell means that they are on a path of misguidance. is that not condemnation

And I'm sorry if I did you wrong by not regarding your sincere presentation in a positive way enough or not giving it due regard. And if I also insulted you for stating your sincere opinion without insult, sorry too.

midnighter:
You must be crazy! So according to you, I said that Milad innabi is celebrated in the Vatican City, Greece, Russia, China and the likes?

You are not serious at all.

If you dont know that "all over the world" is a general statement and doesnt mean literally every single country in the world then we can just end our discussion here because you are just in outer space already.

Khaleell001:
I am not crazy dummy.

I quoted your statement right.
Even if we agree for the sake of argument that "all" does not mean all the countries in the world , and we restrict to Muslim countries you are still not correct.
That's my point.

midnighter:
And you are still crazy because I never told you they celebrated it in ALL Muslim countries either so you are just not serious habibi

Khaleell001:
We know your types now.
If you can lie against Jesus about a birthday he never sanctioned, never celebrated,what stops you from lying against us?

liar !

Khaleell001:
Definition of hatred by Enemmyofpeace is; for example :

1+1=5 .To enemyofpeace this is correct according to his queue logic

1+1=2.To him again ,this is also correct.

In fact, both are correct.

If I dare to say the former is wrong and I give a detailed explanation he will call it hatred because I dared to point out an obvious error.

The illustration above is how most Christians like you think.

We all know there is no scriptural or historical evidence that says you should celebrate Jesus's birthday, neither was his very close disciples celebrated his birthday not even the one you call apostle Paul did.

Seven days Adventist, deeper life, Jehovah witnesses and other churches considers Christmas celebration has paganism, but a Muslim whose belief is clearly distinct from yours is intolerant and hateful because he is bold to tell you the truth you refuse to tell your brainwashed self.

Mumu KEE you there too.

Khaleell001:
I am not your habibi.

I think this is my last mention here on this issue :
You claimed Mawlid was celebrated by sunni "all over the world," and i said this claim is not correct because of so and so country who practice sunni Islām did not recognize such celebration.

So why you con still dey argue on top error.

Khaleell001:
We currently have Christians living close to our prayer ground now for years in a Muslim house.
If we are blood suckers like the other gullible zombie who liked your mention we would have since buried them.

Two months ago, I was in Kano in a place called Kabuga I saw christians go about their activities without being attacked, maimed or jeered at.
This has been like that for years.
But you lying,unexposed,hatred fill bigoted scallywag think Muslims are blood suckers.

I don't blame you sha.

midnighter:
Hahahaha Please I am sorry. Is "Akh" better?

Youre actually the one arguing on the basis of error because you dont understand "idiom".

If I say something is celebrated all over the world, it doesnt mean it is done EVERYWHERE in the world. It only means it is celebrated in plenty of places around the world so youre totally out of point.

Mentioning that Saudi Arabia doesnt celebrate it is as futile as me mentioning that INDONESIA, which is the country with the highest population of Muslims in the world, celebrates it with huge fanfare and splendour.

So you dont have any point!

By the way if you want to know what an actual Muslim sounds like you should watch this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFKU_akfZk4

Tsbah aala khayr!

Khaleell001:
Even though I still insist on my point, we can agree to disagree or vice versa.
We know your women attitude and you hate to be wrong even when it's obvious.

Are you Muslim?
Nice meeting you.

Ma salaam

midnighter:
The government isnt deciding who is right or wrong. The government acts on the framework of acknowledging people who claim to adhere to a particular belief system and listing them as the group they claim to belong to.

Do those people, who according to you belong to the so-called "wrong sect", celebrate Mawlid??

Yeah! The Prophet condemns them yet you cant see your brother acting wild and condemn his bad behaviour, instead you showered him with greetings and blessings. I dont see how you followed the tradition of the Prophet by doing that.



This thing you wrote is total hogwash, excuse my language.

You didnt apologise for being a hypocrite

You didnt apologise for condoning and supporting your co-religionists lunatic behaviour

So what are you sorry for? How can you be sorry for something I didnt mention?

I am not complaining that you got angry at me that day; I am complaining that you cant see anything wrong with that guys action when its much worse than what I wrote.

Which means you are partial! Which is disappointing considering your previously graceful conduct.

It seems that you cant call a spade a spade when it comes to your own interest but are quick to agitate against a perceived wrong when it suits you.

IAmStrange:
By the true justice of Allaah, if I've offended you in Anyway or I've done any wrong, May Allaah forgive me and I'm sorry.

And that's all... Continue ranting The same thing I see in you keeps coming as we go along.

Did I not say that i do not support whatever he did that was wrong? And if he was wrong, what's wrong in me greeting him? As a brother?

But you'll see something wrong in it since your heart is opposed to us... So you can go ahead and continue ranting Till you feel it's alright

And the actual matter about Maulud and the Muslims who celebrate it, I think I'm done explaining that too

What I sha know is that Imes is coming

Peace!

Slawormir:
Damnnnnn niggarrr
We are peace, love and unity
Ash adu illah illalahu Muhammadu wa ra sullulah
There is no god but Allah And prophet Muhammad (sallah lahu alaihi wa sallam) is the messanger of Allah

Khaleell001:
This is ignorance at full display.
This isn't tolerance.
She ought to start seeking for forgiveness for this act.

If Deeper life, Jehovah witnesses, Deeper life, seventh day Adventist who are all Christian Church do not show support with the Christmas celebration why would a Muslims who understands eesa(Jesus) alayhis salaam who Christians claim was born on the 25th of December without any biblical support or evidence and yet this overzealous lady is celebrating a lie.

All these churches mentioned above believe Christmas is paganistic yet one phony Muslims who I doubt knows about Islam was to form "tolerance."

In fact, tolerance is not about showing support for lies,it is knowing our differences and respecting that difference without trying to lord over the other.

IAmStrange:
By the true justice of Allaah, if I've offended you in Anyway or I've done any wrong, May Allaah forgive me and I'm sorry.

And that's all... Continue ranting The same thing I see in you keeps coming as we go along.

Did I not say that i do not support whatever he did that was wrong? And if he was wrong, what's wrong in me greeting him? As a brother?

But you'll see something wrong in it since your heart is opposed to us... So you can go ahead and continue ranting Till you feel it's alright

And the actual matter about Maulud and the Muslims who celebrate it, I think I'm done explaining that too

What I sha know is that Imes is coming

Peace!