rusher14:


Oh lawd.

How can you have solid education without infrastructure?

What is infrastructure?

Do you think it means roads alone?

Do you realise it means electricity as well?

Do you realise it means Hospitals as well?

Water?

Now tell me the one that you outline that is working after 5years of this government ?

bakescos01:


Guy, how much are you paid for all this defending you are defending this government. This is not about APC and PDP. This is about the our future and the future of the unborn. We should do better than comparing badly with bad. Don't you want good? Do you think the best these guys can offer us is more and more bad? These politicians APC and PDP unite when they want to steal from us but we are always divided when we supposed to unite and condemn what's bad.

I provided evidence of how much debt this government has accrued but all you can do is look to antagonize me.

Your country is a poor country and you must accept it.

Despite this, there is a government which has shown dedication to tasks it sets itself despite all the hurdles and genuine sabotage.

I daresay, you are the one being partisan.

I really dislike people who only see problems but cannot profer solutions.

Now I ask you, considering our present situation, how do you instigate growth?

How do you facilitate development?

What recipe do you have for Nigeeia of today?

Please dont give me theories but practical steps.

bakescos01:


Now tell me the one that you outline that is working after 5years of this government ?

There is a saying that goes similar to this; It is difficult to wake a man who pretends to sleep.

rusher14:


Stop being sentimental.

How do you think productivity is boosted?

By wishing it to happen?

You were not unhappy about a 63 billion dollar debt when we should have been saving but you are unhappy about a potential 30 billion dollar debt because the people asking for it are not your choice.

You prefer the thieves that cant point to what they've done with 63 billion dollars but hate the ones that can show you what they've done with 15 billion dollars.

^^^
Care to elaborate on the part set in bold font? I am very much interested in what was spent and by whom.

GoodGovernance:


Stupidity is when you think independence means antagonism.

How does approval of a loan for the benefit of all Nigerians equate to rubber stamping.

Even the worst economists know that the loan is inevitable for Nigeria to develop infrastructure.

That is the only short term option available,other than immediate and unconditional increase in income tax.The long term option is to organically grow our revenue base.

Nigeria can not afford to wait for only the long term solution.Both short and long term options must go pari pasu.


Those who still think a lower debt burden with low infrastructure,is better than a high debt burden with high infrastructure,need their brain re-examined.

^^^
This country is no stranger to foreign borrowing. Every failed government in this country says the same thing: we need foreign borrowing to fund infrastructure.

Why should anyone believe the Buhari administration? Other administrations said more - and look how that ended.

rusher14:


I provided evidence of how much debt this government has accrued but all you can do is look to antagonize me.

Your country is a poor country and you must accept it.

Despite this, there is a government which has shown dedication to tasks it sets itself despite all the hurdles and genuine sabotage.

I daresay, you are the one being partisan.

I really dislike people who only see problems but cannot profer solutions.

Now I ask you, considering our present situation, how do you instigate growth?

How do you facilitate development?

What recipe do you have for Nigeeia of today?

Please dont give me theories but practical steps.

Creation of more jobs in both the public and private sectors. creating public goods. We still have outrageous laws that limits investment in Nigeria, right now in Ghana if an investor is coming in they will allow you bring your raw materials and supplies in without paying any port charges. Creating 1 million jobs can sort out 40 million out of poverty. Also investment in public goods like education, health, environment, and security. We can have a private security company and they can be employed by this our politicians that are just using hundreds of police officers for there security and that will help the police focus on their major duty. There is a lot money to be made in our health sector if you can imagine the amount the elites use to travel out of the country for medicals, that alone will create lot of jobs. In Nigerian, people in small businesses pay a lot of tax than those having big companies that can cut corners. If you want small business to grow then you have to limit their taxes and tax these rich guys the more. Their diverse ways we can make money than borrowing and putting ourselves in debt all the time. Even the senate can be scrap or reduced in number to the smallest minimum. They are not doing any meaningful jobs and getting paid like 500 times of that of a fresh graduate.

rusher14:


I'm just looking at all the follow follow we have in Nigeria.

PDP virtually had no opposition for 16 years but what did they give us?

They plunged us into a 63 billion dollar debt but no one said anything, even in times of oil boom.

^^^
That isn't true and you know it.

So many of us on here DID speak at length about the graft and directionlessness of the PDP years. The threads are there for anyone who wants to check. And that's precisely why we have the moral standing to speak out about the same problems in the current administration.

No point trading one failed administration for another. No point whatsoever.

bakescos01:


Creation of more jobs in both the public and private sectors. creating public goods. We still have outrageous laws that limits investment in Nigeria, right now in Ghana if an investor is coming in they will allow you bring your raw materials and supplies in without paying any port charges. Creating 1 million jobs can sort out 40 million out of poverty. Also investment in public goods like education, health, environment, and security. We can have a private security company and they can be employed by this our politicians that are just using hundreds of police officers for there security and that will help the police focus on their major duty. There is a lot money to be made in our health sector if you can imagine the amount the elites use to travel out of the country for medicals, that alone will create lot of jobs. In Nigerian, people in small businesses pay a lot of tax than those having big companies that can cut corners. If you want small business to grow then you have to limit their taxes and tax these rich guys the more. Their diverse ways we can make money than borrowing and putting ourselves in debt all the time. Even the senate can be scrap or reduced in number to the smallest minimum. They are not doing any meaningful jobs and getting paid like 500 times of that of a fresh graduate.

I said practical.

Can you provide 1 million jobs in Nigeria of today without infrastructure?

How?

Scrap the senate?

Who would legislate on it ?

The same senate right?

The health sector cannot receive a boost if the same infrastructure we refer to are deplorable.

How many big businesses do you have that you want to tax whilst you want to give a by to the smaller ones?

C'mon now.

Be realistic.

I know we see 30 billion dollars and simply go into delirium but you must put sentiments aside.

rusher14:


Honestly, you should stop quoting me.

I hate rumour mongers.

You talk of a 700 million stolen but you've reached a conclusion on the ownership with not a single shred of evidence.

You are exactly the kind of person I totally ignore.

Watch how I do so.

Like seriously? It was all over the media! I can't believe u saying this. Premium times reported it. The military adminited to it.

Now, why was the investigation not made public? It is not our money? What can anyone be doing with over 700 million raw cash? The country deserve to know. U know what I'm saying.

What is remour here? Four military men ran away with over 700 million. One of them had his wife arrested and his relatives condemned it. Which one is rumour again?
The military should have told us what the result of the investigation is all about? Sorry if u believe any Nigerian leader. Sorry. Maybe u work for them. But u see me here, I don't ass lick any politician becus I will always speak the truth.

rusher14:


Your country is a poor country and you must accept it.

I really dislike people who only see problems but cannot profer solutions.

Now I ask you, considering our present situation, how do you instigate growth?

How do you facilitate development?

What recipe do you have for Nigeeia of today?

Please dont give me theories but practical steps.

^^^
Fair enough.

We can start with the public expenditure profile.

The wages, emoluments, estacodes etc. of public servants is where a good chunk of the money is getting lost. And the most egregious examples are found in both the executive and the legislature.

Reform this part of government and see what happens.

Public sector budgeting in Nigeria is a joke, full stop. We go through the charade of budget preparation, presentation, assent etc. every year. How come there isn't a federal budget review (with the same level of publicity) the following year to see compliance levels?

rusher14:


Honestly, you should stop quoting me.

I hate rumour mongers.

You talk of a 700 million stolen but you've reached a conclusion on the ownership with not a single shred of evidence.

You are exactly the kind of person I totally ignore.

Watch how I do so.

Like seriously? It was all over the media! I can't believe u saying this. Premium times reported it. The military adminited to it.

Now, why was the investigation not made public? It is not our money? What can anyone be doing with over 700 million raw cash? The country deserve to know. U know what I'm saying.

What is rumour here? Four military men ran away with over 700 million. One of them had his wife arrested and his relatives condemned it. Which one is rumour again?
The military should have told us what the result of the investigation is all about? Sorry if u believe any Nigerian leader. Sorry. Maybe u work for them. But u see me here, I don't ass lick any politician becus I will always speak the truth.

Staro:
This Lawan will be the worst Senate President
since independence

The Idiot look like mumu

rusher14:


I said practical.

Can you provide 1 million jobs in Nigeria of today without infrastructure?

How?

Scrap the senate?

Who would legislate on it ?

The same senate right?

The health sector cannot receive a boost if the same infrastructure we refer to are deplorable.

How many big businesses do you have that you want to tax whilst you want to give a by to the smaller ones?

C'mon now.

Be realistic.

I know we see 30 billion dollars and simply go into delirium but you must put sentiments aside.

There is no magic to raise that kind of money right now but I believe with the right approach it is achievable under 1 year. About the Senate, the house of rep can take charge of there responsibility, we still have local government chairmen and councilor that can take the job of the Rep. The local government are not doing much and can take more responsibility so far all we are doing is trying to cut cost.

rusher14:


Actually untrue.

Ask NOI.

Thankfully, one of its proponents, Saraki has been ejected.

There's nothing to ask her, budget padding wasn't reported wen she was finance minister.

Budget padding joined the Nigerian political corruption space in 2016 under the daura fossilic dullard

You can say this time and again.
It's a known secret.
ABS may have his dark side, but far better and more professional than Lawan as the President of the Senate.
We are on our own till June 2023.

bakescos01:


There is no magic to raise that kind of money right now but I believe with the right approach it is achievable under 1 year. About the Senate, the house of rep can take charge of there responsibility, we still have local government chairmen and councilor that can take the job of the Rep. The local government are not doing much and can take more responsibility so far all we are doing is trying to cut cost.

There's no magic wand for the emboldened.

The local government can do nothing because the Law courts have rendered them powerless thanks to PDP - Sorry I had to drag them in.

Thanks to Donald Duke and his ilk who starved the LGs deliberately much as he was a better leader than most, I have to admit he was an originator of this disservice.

PrecisionFx:



There's nothing to ask her, budget padding wasn't reported wen she was finance minister.

Budget padding joined the Nigerian political corruption space in 2016 under the daura fossilic dullard

Ok.

rusher14:


There's no magic wand for the emboldened.

The local government can do nothing because the Law courts have rendered them powerless thanks to PDP - Sorry I had to drag them in.

Thanks to Donald Duke and his ilk who starved the LGs deliberately much as he was a better leader than most, I have to admit he was an originator of this disservice.

We will still have Nigeria after 1 year. Nigeria will not crash. I believe its wiser to suffer for a year and enjoy the future better than enjoying a year and suffering for more than 20 years because of that.

PerfectlyPerfect:

APC were voted to correct the misdoings of the previous administration, but they've only suceeded in making everything worst. Tell yourself the truth. Everything PDP was accused of, APC has done the same thing, and has done much worse

Like completing abandoned project, paying bailout to states irrespective of political party, fiscal prudence What in all these did pdp do?

You wailers are just pathetic sha

allthingsgood:
Bla bla bla

That's how democracy works. It's their party in power. You expect lawan to fight his leader. Not everyone is as dumb as saraki

This is how democracy works all over the world

Bro, re u 4 real?.. Gawd.!!. I gv up on Nigeria.

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Keep fooling yourself.

No more padded budgets.

No more delays.

Projects being executed.

If you are home for xmas I'm sure you saw the 2nd Niger bridge coming on strong.

Those going to Ibadan saw the rail tracks.

Those going to Kaduna from Abuja got on the rail line.

This is just a little above 4 years.

Tell us what 16 years of PDP gave us.



if you're supporting this government, shame on you..
people like you are so stagnant in reasoning..
in what ways can you compare the 16yrs of PDP with this present turbulent moment.
is it PDP that is borrowing $29B, ruining your generations.. I can remember, PDP cleared all our debts, even Jonathan that borrowed, doesn't go to this length.

PDP messed up, let's talk reality, but yet, basically on fact, they built our solid democracy, and under PDP, many achievements were made, let's be realistic except if we lie and we are so blind to the point of super partial to the party's achievement..

Buhari has no reason to fail, cos he was in Nigeria, he saw the lapses of the PDP, and he suppose to come and build more evn better those mistakes, yet, we are still rejoicing on an unnecessary basic things other nations of the world has done and left behind..

we are better than all this fake achievements plz..

Racoon:


https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2019/12/21/lawan-is-just-a-rubber-waiting-to-stamp-anything/

Aye Aye Aye have it

That fat hippopotamus shouldn't be a surprise to sane ones why northern illiterate president wanted to install since 2015 as senate president. What I'm happy is that the likes of Hell-inues, Afamed, BuhariAdvocate, Dead meat griller and other zombies are still in this country facing the same problems from their saviour buhari. And God will not allow them to have access out of this country IJN AMEN.

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Truly, being half-informed is dangerous.

Your Knowledge of our debt profile stopped at 2011.

Yet, by 2015, Goodlluck and his henchmen raised it to 63 billion Dollars.

Please let us see what you wrote about it then.

rusher14:
Impeach him na.

Or can you explain to us how David Mark ans his co-travellers x-rayed every item for years, by so-doing leading us to the glorious nation we have become.

Wailers.

Morons* are never in short supply.

During gej era,they were all barking and we're very active like attack dogs. But now, they've suddenly turned into tiny puppies with their tails tucked under their silly arsses, including those noise making sophisticated coneheaded moraans

rusher14:


Ok.

The nation newspaper that's the journal version of lying Mohammed

rusher14:


Truly, being half-informed is dangerous.

Your Knowledge of our debt profile stopped at 2011.

Yet, by 2015, Goodlluck and his henchmen raised it to 63 billion Dollars.

Please let us see what you wrote about it then.

on a very good day, based your incorrect fact, let's even say truely the debt is high, a very good government, Wats their duty, to correct those faults and help in solving those problems, yet, the government kept on borrowing..

PDP helped clear the debt, kept $35B in foreign reserve, then borrowed in Jonathan's administration..

I beg APC under Baba too, to clear the debt, and go back to borrow. Not adding to the problems..

wingmanIII:
See his very fat face. That's why they were desperate to have him as senate president. A mere rubber stamp.
Nigeria is doomed. Unfortunate

Looking at him, I am constantly reminded of a saying that, "If you want to chop a frog, better grab the biggest..."

femixville:


on a very good day, based your incorrect fact, let's even say truely the debt is high, a very good government, Wats their duty, to correct those faults and help in solving those problems, yet, the government kept on borrowing..

PDP helped clear the debt, kept $35B in foreign reserve, then borrowed in Jonathan's administration..

I beg APC under Baba too, to clear the debt, and go back to borrow. Not adding to the problems..

Clear the debt with which money?

This xmas enjoyment don dey make you believe.

rusher14:


Ok.

This is not budget padding. Don't deceive urself