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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Area4Area: 9:46am On Dec 22, 2019
enemybulldozer:
So because OBJ did not make them functional while in power, your god buhari should leave them the way he met them is that not so?? Due to the way your brain process information have made you to forget that, the agitation for Bia4ra did not get to this height during OBJ's tenure.
Use your God given brain as I've advised you earlier, Warri, Calabar and Onne ports are already in operation and was made possible by Buhari.

Your brain didn't tell you as well because everyone knew that your agitation for Biafra became this strong because your god GEJ lost the election, before the loss, how many of you knew what Kanu and IPOB meant, immediately GEJ lost, you went for Biafra.

Same happened recently when Kanu went into hiding, you all forgot your Biafra and were Atikulating, immediately he reappeared, you went back to your Biafra, use your brain

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by ConqueredWest: 10:50am On Dec 22, 2019
BeachTime:
I'll advise Nigerians to apply critical thinking when making analysis; and it will be appreciated if Nigerians shun bigotry , Myopia and corruption,and build an organized society.
You wanna know who is really cheated and marginalized in my opinion? Akwa ibom,Bayelsa,etc. .I'll use Akwa ibom /Anambra as example.
Akwa ibom generates $13 Billion dollars per year .The money is confiscated and shared by Nigeria to all states and Akwa ibom ends up receiving only $50 million dollars per month or $600 million dollars per year.
Anambra's total internal revenue is $14 Million dollars . Akwa ibom's internal revenue minus oil is $11 Million dollars.
Anambra receives free $20 million dollars from Nigeria per month.
A 1.5 km bridge like the Onitsha bridge length cost $600 million to 1.3 billion dollars depending on number of lanes and vanity features. The second Onitsha bridge cost $600 million dollars. Anambra would not have the money to build the bridge if all states have autonomy and control of their resources.
The Akwacross needs at least 10 six lane worldclass bridges (calabar itu , Oron calabar ,etc. ) all of these would cost a combined $6 Billion dollars . Does Nigeria care about those bridges? Akwa ibom has a natural harbor for seaport . In fact, that very Ibaka area seems to be an international trade point between Nigeria and the central African countries. Does Nigeria care about that seaport? In fact,it won't hurt having 2 seaports in the area with the present day calabar or bakasssi seaport as reserve seaport. Akwa ibom has the perfect spot for Maritime University ,yet that was not converted to university. Even so,it won't hurt if Nigeria has at least 2 or 3 Maritime Universities.
Donald Duke was more qualified to be Nigeria's president ,yet he was nixed . Bakassi(Calabar(akwacross) territory was forfeited to Cameroon by Nigerian government.
Who cares about producing president if you have autonomy and control of your resources. In my personal opinion, I think Igbo have it good in Nigeria than Calabarians,Ijaws and some others.
The above is my unbiased submission. I would like anyone to counter my point with facts and tell me how Igbo is marginalized and I'll kindly reason with your opinion.



If you are from Nigerdelta you are damn stu......

Any intelligent person knows that whatever favors the Igbos favors the Nigerdeltans.

Questioning the marginalization of the Igbos shows absolute stu.....ty

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Nobody: 10:52am On Dec 22, 2019
But he refused to do that during his tenure!
He practically threw the idea away when it was brought to him!

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by ConqueredWest: 10:54am On Dec 22, 2019
BeachTime:



Your reply strays from my original comment and did not counter any claims . I used Anambra and Akwa ibom as examples because the topic relates to igbo state ,not Northern Nigeria, and I love Onitsha Anambra.
I know Nigeria had a civil war a few decades ago, but maybe there are things I'm unaware of . I would like to know how Igbos are marginalized right now ,plus any refutation to my other assertion. I'll appreciate a sound and factual explanation.

We don't want to enjoy the Nigeria again leave us to suffer as Biafrans.

You are free to remain as Nigerians with the Fulani people on rampage

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Nobody: 10:56am On Dec 22, 2019
sweetgala:


Seaports are not "usually" built on rivers , bridges however are built to traverse large bodies of water usually not coastal waters.
Seems like people don't know but abia state has what it takes to build a sea port.
Nigerian government don't normally want to hear that.
So it's a close chapter. Always a closed chapter. Pretend that igboland is landlocked.

They know what it will means if that place is developed a bit like onne.
Obasanjo was visibly angry when it was brought up to him.
So what is he saying now?

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by rusher14: 11:18am On Dec 22, 2019
ConqueredWest:



[s]If you are from Nigerdelta you are damn stu......

Any intelligent person knows that whatever favors the Igbos favors the Nigerdeltans.

Questioning the marginalization of the Igbos shows absolute stu.....ty[/s]

Since when?
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Tarabye: 11:24am On Dec 22, 2019
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by sweetgala(m): 11:47am On Dec 22, 2019
sassysure:

Seems like people don't know but abia state has what it takes to build a sea port.
Nigerian government don't normally want to hear that.
So it's a close chapter. Always a closed chapter. Pretend that igboland is landlocked.

They know what it will means if that place is developed a bit like onne.
Obasanjo was visibly angry when it was brought up to him.
So what is he saying now?

We have Oone seaport, that is in close proximity to most SE industrial and commercial hubs. If the rail and road systems linking these areas is developed there is no reason to build a seaport in a SE state.

The volume of trade there might not be feasible in the long-term. Building and sustainability of a seaport is an issue many countries are having a difficulty with.

The reason Lagos ports are so successful is because there are no other options but if that is divested too thinly the feasibility is out the window.
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by XANDERBOY85: 12:06pm On Dec 22, 2019
Chibuzoc:

We are all entitled to our opinions but Op you lack understanding although you sounded intelligent.
Now answer me, were will the seaport be located in igboland if not either in akwa-cross, port Harcourt or Warri
Op with all due respect, I will classify you as an igbophobic element, my opinion thou

Of course he's Igbophobic! He's trying to hide it (unsuccessfully) under the mask of appearing to be 'detached', 'neutral' and 'logical'! Engaging such people in a intellectual discuss is akin to moving round and round in a revolving door.....you get nowhere with them! smiley

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by enemybulldozer(m): 12:18pm On Dec 22, 2019
Area4Area:
Use your God given brain as I've advised you earlier, Warri, Calabar and Onne ports are already in operation and was made possible by Buhari.

Your brain didn't tell you as well because everyone knew that your agitation for Biafra became this strong because your god GEJ lost the election, before the loss, how many of you knew what Kanu and IPOB meant, immediately GEJ lost, you went for Biafra.

Same happened recently when Kanu went into hiding, you all forgot your Biafra and were Atikulating, immediately he reappeared, you went back to your Biafra, use your brain
An average afonja is a born liar and propagandist.

If those sea ports you mentioned are functioning and were made possible by your god buhari, why are we still importing our goods through Lagos ports??

Honestly, you're the one that is suppose to make use of your brain here which I know it's a mission impossible to you because of the way your brain is structured.

The agitation for Bia4ra did not become this strong because GEJ lost election as most of you think ( although am not surprised that is how your brain works) the truth remains that your god buhari made the agitation to be strong because of his hate towards Igbos.

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by CSTR2: 12:27pm On Dec 22, 2019
tartar9:
"If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land, An Igbo Business Man Can Feed And Cloths A Senators"
Their always rude and arrogant ways of requesting for help alone is enough to make anyone not to heed their requests.
Did igbos ask for help from your father or from your ethnic group?

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by enemybulldozer(m): 12:49pm On Dec 22, 2019
Area4Area:
God gave you a brain I suppose so use it, Luggard united the country first, later when Zik and Ironsi had the opportunities to reverse the unity, they refused and insisted on it to remain united.
See you blaming Luggard, use that brain next time.
Of course God gave me brain to use it properly and am doing so. Now my question is, why have you refused to make good use of yours??

Point of correction, lugard did not unite the country rather, lugard CREATED the country. I used capital letter so you will understand. And that is an abomination before God and man to lump people of different tradition, beliefs and value system together in the name of creating a country. Since I was born I've not seen or heard that a black African went to Europe to create a country. The questions I usually ask myself ( because I do make good use of my God giving brain) is why was it possible for lugard to come to this part of the world to create a country?? Does that mean we're lesser humans??

Now since you think you have brain, ask yourself why you're holding lugards fraud so tight that you want to die over it.

Lastly, stop spreading falsehood here by saying zik and ironsi insisted nigger-area must be one. I know that as a typical afonja you're falsehood and propaganda is in your DNA but try as much as possible to curtail it.

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by gidgiddy: 12:50pm On Dec 22, 2019
Igbos are long overdue for their own seperate country

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Area4Area: 12:51pm On Dec 22, 2019
enemybulldozer:
An average afonja is a born liar and propagandist.

If those sea ports you mentioned are functioning and were made possible by your god buhari, why are we still importing our goods through Lagos ports??

Honestly, you're the one that is suppose to make use of your brain here which I know it's a mission impossible to you because of the way your brain is structured.

The agitation for Bia4ra did not become this strong because GEJ lost election as most of you think ( although am not surprised that is how your brain works) the truth remains that your god buhari made the agitation to be strong because of his hate towards Igbos.
Even people already know that those ports are operating at the moment, if you feign ignorance, your business.

Ignorance and lies, before the 2015 election, how many of you were talking about Biafra, was it not GEJ must win the election that was your priority then, he lost and you all knew what IPOB and Kanu means.

I guess an afonja is always chasing with a cutlass every night in your dreams, if you don't mention that word in a day, your day is not made. Finally use your God given brain.

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Area4Area: 1:02pm On Dec 22, 2019
enemybulldozer:
Of course God gave me brain to use it properly and am doing so. Now my question is, why have you refused to make good use of yours??

Point of correction, lugard did not unite the country rather, lugard CREATED the country. I used capital letter so you will understand. And that is an abomination before God and man lump people of different tradition, beliefs and value system together in the name of creating a country. Since I was born I've not seen or heard that a black African went to Europe to create a country. The questions I usually ask myself ( because I do make good use of my God giving brain) is why was it possible for lugard to come to this part of the world to create a country?? Does that mean we're lesser humans??

Now since you think you have brain, ask yourself why you're holding lugards fraud so tight that you want to die over it.

Lastly, stop spreading falsehood here by saying zik and ironsi insisted nigger-area must be one. I know that as a typical afonja you're falsehood and propaganda is in your DNA but try as much as possible to curtail it.
After the long epistle, you still not making sense at all, two protectorates were amalgamated meaning joined together or united together and you're spitting trash everywhere, as for Zik and Ironsi, I wouldn't want to school you on that because google is for you.

You Chinese Buddhist should allow the afonja be na, I'm not even one and I wonder why you keep calling them out or are they chasing you in your dreams every night. Use your brain.
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by enemybulldozer(m): 2:26pm On Dec 22, 2019
Area4Area:
Even people already know that those ports are operating at the moment, if you feign ignorance, your business.

Ignorance and lies, before the 2015 election, how many of you were talking about Biafra, was it not GEJ must win the election that was your priority then, he lost and you all knew what IPOB and Kanu means.

I guess an afonja is always chasing with a cutlass every night in your dreams, if you don't mention that word in a day, your day is not made. Finally use your God given brain.
Stop beating about the bush and answer my questions. Why is it that Igbos are still importing their goods through Lagos ports if the ports in the eastern region are functioning well?? There is nothing like feigning ignorance when am speaking the truth.

Many of us were not talking about biafra before 2015. But your god buhari have succeeded in making us to do so because of his hate towards Igbos.

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by enemybulldozer(m): 2:50pm On Dec 22, 2019
Area4Area:
After the long epistle, you still not making sense at all, two protectorates were amalgamated meaning joined together or united together and you're spitting trash everywhere, as for Zik and Ironsi, I wouldn't want to school you on that because google is for you.

You Chinese Buddhist should allow the afonja be na, I'm not even one and I wonder why you keep calling them out or are they chasing you in your dreams every night. Use your brain.
How will I make sense to someone whose brain is structured abnormally?? of course that won't be possible.

Ok let me take it from your own angle, who gave lugard the right to amalgamate the two protectorates??
How many tribes are/were in those protectorates??
What lugard did is it right or wrong before God and man??

Lastly, since you parade yourself as a wise person why do you want to die over lugards fraud??

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by iSlayer: 3:49pm On Dec 22, 2019
One who kicked down may not stay down. Buhari and Nigerians are wasting their time.
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Amumaigwe: 3:50pm On Dec 22, 2019
Depressed101:
I logged in just to say thank you. thank you for saying my mind.. Some people think they are smart with the reply they give Igbos when they read about their agitation. i am beginning to think igbos are the only tribe that have sense in this country. the truth is in the long run. We are all marginalised, we the poor, It will be very myopic not to see that this country is clearly built to suit the elites only... The poor are choking in poverty, yet ignorance and illiteracy keeps them in check from making their voice known... It seems only the igbos have broken away from this ignorance, and the rest of the tribes are still wallowing in it, obviously because they are less dealth with.

It can never get better with the attitude of the people towards those that have constantly undermined their rights , pillage and rape their common wealth with all recklessness...

May God grant the Igbo race what they seek. Amin

Amen my brother. Some people must break away from this terrible Stockholm syndrome.

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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by faith2kool(f): 3:58pm On Dec 22, 2019
AtikuNetwork:
This news looks fake. I don't think Obasanjo said any of those things. Besides, why is it a blog that is reporting it instead of a major newspaper like The Sun or Telegraph??
Every information posted about the Igbo's is always fake to u
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Chibuzoc(m): 4:05pm On Dec 22, 2019
rusher14:


But all these locations you called are not Igbo locations.


That is to tell you that the Igbos are not what you think. Stop the igbophobic attitude
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by rusher14: 4:14pm On Dec 22, 2019
Chibuzoc:


That is to tell you that the Igbos are not what you think. Stop the igbophobic attitude

What is Igbophobic?

You claim ports in another person's land is what is holding you back.

You sef reason am.
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Area4Area: 4:16pm On Dec 22, 2019
enemybulldozer:
How will I make sense to someone whose brain is structured abnormally?? of course that won't be possible.

Ok let me take it from your own angle, who gave lugard the right to amalgamate the two protectorates??
How many tribes are/were in those protectorates??
What lugard did is it right or wrong before God and man??

Lastly, since you parade yourself as a wise person why do you want to die over lugards fraud??
Still not making any sense.
The two protectorates were British then and they did whatever they wished to their "conquered" territories that were not yet "civilized". But when the people decided to become "civilized" by acquiring western education and wanting to rule themselves, that means they had become civilized according to the western standard.

Luggard did the right or wrong thing should be equally applied to the slave era as well which ended with the British stoppage of slave trade trade across the Atlantic.

Black emancipation in the US can be akin to the de-amalgamation, referendum and secession in Nigeria which Zik and Ironsi refused. US blacks wanted to reverse the evils of slavery but Zik and Ironsi wanted to perpetuate the evils of Luggard. Other countries around the world were colonized as well so not only Nigeria.

You can as ask those other countries who gave their colonial masters the right, remember that the US was once a colony of Britain. Use your brain
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Area4Area: 4:23pm On Dec 22, 2019
enemybulldozer:
Stop beating about the bush and answer my questions. Why is it that Igbos are still importing their goods through Lagos ports if the ports in the eastern region are functioning well?? There is nothing like feigning ignorance when am speaking the truth.

Many of us were not talking about biafra before 2015. But your god buhari have succeeded in making us to do so because of his hate towards Igbos.
Their wish, in as much as Onne, Warri, Calabar ports are functional now and people are importing from those places and you insist importing from Lagos, whose fault?

So many Nairalanders would be laughing at you already for not knowing that those ports are operating at the moment, stop displaying your ignorance to the world and use your brain.
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Nobody: 4:26pm On Dec 22, 2019
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Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Area4Area: 4:36pm On Dec 22, 2019
BeachTime:
All I see are irrational and antagonistic replies and arguments. No one has Answered my simple question : How are Igbos marginalized today?
I gave a clear example of those I think are marginalized based on my awareness ,and I also gave a clear example of how I think Igbo benefits. Not a single reply has refuted my claim and explained how igbo is marginalized. Maybe there are things i'm unaware of , so make me aware how Igbos are marginalized today, because based on my current knowledge I do not think Igbo are marginalized .

Igbos are never marginalized whenever they get what they want but immediately they lose it, they become marginalized. Don't mind them.
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by oyatz(m): 10:00pm On Dec 22, 2019
1) Where is the SEA in Anambra or the whole of the S/east? Can you build Seaports without a Sea?

2) Where the did you get this idea that people from Anambra are the highest importers?

Can you list the first five products imported into this country and those who import them.

3) Can you exactly explain how massive importation via Anambra State will increase the IGR of Anambra given that revenues from Ports in Nigeria goes into the federation account.

4) Are you aware that massive importation does great damages to the economy of a third World Country like Nigeria? Why can't we focus more on EXPORTATION like in the 1950s-1960s when we exported more than we imported.

Massive importation only started around 1973-75 with influx of billions of Petrodollars.







Esseite:


Good write up... but dont you think there are other minerals in the earth that they could harness to generate funds for their infrastructure aswell as speed up its pace?..

Dont you also think that a seaport would increase its IGR directly from the $11m you stated since its people top the list of importers into the country?

Dont you think a seaport would attract international coys and partnership, aswell as population bloat which in turn increases IGR, standard of living, employment etc

Dont you think so?
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by oyatz(m): 10:18pm On Dec 22, 2019
Excuse me sir,

Do you know the distance from Onitsha to the Atlantic ocean? Do you know how much it will cost to dreg River Niger to make it navigable for Heavy Ocean sailing ships from Onitsha down to the Atlantic ocean ,a distance of about 250-300 kilometers. Do you know that this dreging will have to be done regularly to maintain the dept of the river?

Do you know the ecological implications? All the waters in the Delta region which are actually tributaries of the River Niger will be diverted into one water body running from Onitsha to the Sea to make the river navigable.

Do you know the socio-political implications? Millions of people in the Niger Delta whose survival are tied to these waters will start inter-tribal crisis against the Igbos.




Wazobiamax22:

Can't an artificial one be built

Common this is a 21st century for Christ sakes

It will ease alot of things. It will decongest Lagos and other cities for that matter

Nothing is impossible
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by oyatz(m): 10:27pm On Dec 22, 2019
Are the Chinese economic migrants in Lagos?

How many Chinese men do you see selling gala or LaCasera within Lagos Traffic? How many Chinese traders convert Open spaces designed for pedestrian walkways, flowerbeds or roundabouts in Lagos to where they display their second hand wares?

Stop comparing Akpu with Indomie

SLAP44:


Same way the Chinese left great China to come to Lagos and make their millions. Stop hating.
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by Wazobiamax22: 10:27pm On Dec 22, 2019
oyatz:
Excuse me sir,

Do you know the distance from Onitsha to the Atlantic ocean? Do you know how much it will cost to dreg River Niger to make it navigable for Heavy Ocean sailing ships from Onitsha down to the Atlantic ocean ,a distance of about 250-300 kilometers. Do you know that this dreging will have to be done regularly to maintain the dept of the river?

Do you know the ecological implications? All the waters in the Delta region which are actually tributaries of the River Niger will be diverted into one water body running from Onitsha to the Sea to make the river navigable.

Do you know the socio-political implications? Millions of people in the Niger Delta whose survival are tied to these waters will start inter-tribal crisis against the Igbos.
Lolzzzz your last paragraph is funny. So Daura don kill themselves finish sake of say them build transportation school for their village
Abi how many west don kill themselves over the seaport undecided

Police headquarters nkor

I can go on

As per others, its worth investing on instead of that bogus amount for the renovation of National Assembly brouhaha

Here is a project worth looking at
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by oyatz(m): 10:35pm On Dec 22, 2019
What you are saying is very irrelevant to my post


I am educating you on the economic, ecological and socio-political implications of creating an artificial seaport in Onitsha.


In most developing countries, inter tribal crisis ( e.g Fulaniherdsmen, Darfur crises) occurs largely due to contest for resources which African countries haven't mastered how to increase.









I wrongly assumed you understood these concepts.




Wazobiamax22:

Lolzzzz your last paragraph is funny. So Daura don kill themselves finish sake of say them build transportation school for their village
Abi how many west don kill themselves over the seaport undecided

Police headquarters nkor

I can go on

As per others, its worth investing on instead of that bogus amount for the renovation of National Assembly brouhaha

Here is a project worth looking at
Re: If Igbo’s Have Functional Sea Port In Igbo Land - Obasanjo by oyatz(m): 10:51pm On Dec 22, 2019
There are functional ports in Rivers State. Ibeto and Dangote import their goods through ports in Rivers State.

There's a functional ports in Warri.







The liquidation of the Nigerian National Shipping Line (NNSL) greatly affect traffic into these ports as private (foreign) Shipping companies don't like to go to these ports.


In the past, the FG me mostly through the NNSL used Fiats to divert cargoes to these ports to ease congestion in Lagos ports.

My father's consignment was once diverted from Apapa port to Sapele port in 1977.






SLAP44:


What I see is that you didn't read the article at all, if you did you would have seen that if there is a seaport in Igboland, I will never move to Lagos to clear my containers.

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