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Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by AbdulHakeem44(m): 10:06am On Dec 23, 2019
LordAzubuike:

Stop being a fool okay. You can't expect a lecturer to know all. You can't throw random questions at a lecturer and expect him to know it easily. Lecturers have specialty, they have their own field. If you ask him anything outside his field, don't blame him. Same with a professor that you'd expect him to know everything. Professors for instance have their own specialty too. They might all be professors in physics but while one is a professor of acoustic , another is a professor of quantum physics, another is a Prof of electro magnetism and electronics another is a Prof of condensed matter physics. So you can't ask a Prof of acoustics a question relating to electro magnetism and expect him to know it. All of them may answer professor of physics. But they have their own specialty where they did their thesis.

Cc Aremson14

Can't you just air your opinion without being insultive? Is it so difficult to do?
You don't know the lecturer in question, you don't know which course he has humiliated himself, maybe it is his major or not, you just came under my mention to insult. Who doesn't know that lecturer doesn't know it all? Some mistakes are easily forgiven, but many are not mistakes but simply ignorant of it
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by OGHENAOGIE(m): 10:08am On Dec 23, 2019
OoniOfIfe:
cool






What do u expect?
Even Buhari is not academically qualified to be president.
Tanko is also not qualified to be CJN


Unqualified lecturers full north.
It will take d grace of God to understand an English a northern lecturer is speaking.
Apart from Unijos nd ABU other northern uni lecturers at not even qualified to teach in southern primary schools
the problem with some of u is always coming here to type rubbish... like we don't have idiotic lecturers in southern schools...nonsense... is it in South uni that a lecturer who did msc PhD international relations ll be lecturing public admin course...grow up from this nonsense tribalism
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Adams12345: 10:18am On Dec 23, 2019
AbdulHakeem44:
Every school has that lecturer where student themselves know that this lecturer doesn't know what he is teaching or lecturing. He is just forcing his way through.

I remember when I was in 300l in unilorin, one of my classmates asked a question in the class, the lecturer didn't know it, so he asked whoever knows it among us to come out to solve it, the scholars amongst us began to reach out for the marker to try their luck, we couldn't reach a conclusion. The next two classes was dedicated to solving that problem, we couldn't, Mr lecturer just jumped onto the next topic.

That same lecturer did similar thing during my Master's degree in the same school few years ago.

Some lecturers are worse than that!!!

Then you begin to wonder why problem solvers are not being pulled out of our universities rather book crammers and degree pursuant.

But he could have resarch the question for answer or more facts, thats bad too poor.
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by edoairways: 10:26am On Dec 23, 2019
atiku4President:

How many times has ASUU gone on strike because of unqualified folks in their ranks? It does for better pay and 'more funding' of universities. ASUU too doesn't pay itself; neither does it fund the universities. So....who is deceiving who?
ASUU doesn't need to strike because of unqualified lecturers rather the government should sort that out
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by edoairways: 10:27am On Dec 23, 2019
RisenPhoenix:


Data in the sciences is universal and not limited to regions. It can easily be obtained through collaboration with other universities. As for funding, in other climes, it is obtained mainly from the private sector which sees the research as relevant to its operations. With the current cadre of 'researchers' in most Nigerian universities, no private organization would want to rely on research results obtained here. That is why self funding remains the only option.

The politician/board arrangement suits both parties. Don't believe it when they tell you that university boards are coerced into making appointments. It is totally a mutual satisfying back scratch. A board could theoretically take the high road and refuse unqualified lecturer appointments. Why do you think they don't?
Data is difficult to get in Nigeria. Many of my research work are halted because companies rarely disclose their reports.

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Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Nobody: 10:35am On Dec 23, 2019
edoairways:

Data is difficult to get in Nigeria. Many of my research work are halted because companies rarely disclose their reports.

I have had the same experience, but I understand their point. They don't because they do not see the benefit to themselves. No company wants to divulge information or fund research without seeing some sort of benefit in return.
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Waxxxy: 10:38am On Dec 23, 2019
Sirwallace:


Silly! Every privilege tom and harry is now forming W.shakespeare on nairaland.


Grammarian of our time, I guess one or two glitches in that quote made you arrived at your logical conclusion.

The same English that I can actually tutor you.
Mind you,
When you tutor your juniors on thermodynamics and engineering mathematics for 3 years and your colleagues on advanced vibration and strength of materials, then you and I can have a normal conversation in English.

Prof Tutor,
You hate the truth. If you like tutor your senior advanced engineering analysis, prof prodigy you don't merit first class. Shikena grin
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Amos1423(m): 10:50am On Dec 23, 2019
I believe its high time Nigeria wakes up and look into its long diminishing academic stance. Many graduates today which ave spoken with regrets why they didnt learn a trade before going to school while some regret why they did goto school atall. Why? Nigerian institution have failed to instill value in the life of its students as being a student if you dont go extra mile to learn what the school suppose to teach you like paying for tutorials and stuffs like that OYO is your case. Present we have a lecturer in my school whe thinks of himself as a king where we call him a three day lecturer. First day: course outline and story of his life. Second: breif lecture. Third: test. AM TIRED OF BEING A NIGERIAN
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Nobody: 11:05am On Dec 23, 2019
Ogunkillbuhari:
Take or leave it, this a bitter truth especially in many states universities as majority of the lectures are dunce and daft. They have no idea of what teaching is.
It's even worse in federal universities. I'm a product of a federal university. So, I've made a comparison of the two, and came to the conclusion that state universities are even better. I have my reasons which some people who attended federal universities have agreed with me. I've seen a lecturer who taught us in a federal university. He doesn't know anything. If you ask him any question, he could not answer it. If a student tries to answer it, whether he gets the answer correct or not, he'll concur and we'll all burst into laughter. He's now a professor. My friend told me about the professor in their faculty who dictates only from his notes. He doesn't teach other than dictating, after which he'll end the lecture. If they want to make fun of him, one of them will shout, "Prof, you didn't dictate this one very well." And he'll shout: "I dictated it correctly; you didn't write it correctly. See it in my notebook; I said it word for word!" Other students would chorus: "the Prof dictated it correctly". He'll then say again: "have you seen that your fellow students are saying that I dictated it correctly?" So many of them abound both in state and federal universities. There's a systemic decay everywhere in Naija.

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Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Nobody: 11:12am On Dec 23, 2019
rentAcock:
Many lecturers became lecturers because they couldn't become doctors, engineers, pharmacists etc. They are not only unqualified to teach, they are also frustrated, hence the reason they fail students. We need a total overhaul of out educational system.
since you said many are lecturers because they couldn't become doctors, engineers, pharmacists, who taught those professionals you mentioned? Don't we have doctors, engineers and pharmacists as lecturers too?
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Nobody: 11:20am On Dec 23, 2019
brexit:
That is what we are seeing in the system, third class holders with both political and ASUU connections are now parading themselves as lecturers distributing ignorance, ordinarily second lower holders are not supposed to lecture, soon based on politics they will start working as graduate assistant, ASUU has destroyed the system
Second class lower holders are qualified to lecture with a master's degree. Even third class holders with PGD and master's degree are also qualified. At times, they make better lecturers than first class and second class upper holders. Some graduated with those classes, not because they're not intelligent, but because of circumstances beyond their control, one of which is poverty which made them not to concentrate. I'm a second class upper holder shaa.

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Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Nobody: 11:24am On Dec 23, 2019
CasNova:
ASUU will need to do a lot to shore up the falling standard of education in Nigeria. Unfortunately, ASUU itself is a contributor to the fall.

it's the job of government to shore up the falling standard of education through adequate funding, but it has failed to do this.
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Nobody: 11:26am On Dec 23, 2019
Where's the lie though?

Architecture department, that year...

Lecturers that have never been to site or handled live projects will also come to class and be forming Prof.

Ask them simple question and they fall yakata for ground. You don become their enemy be that.

Every semester jury after that, they'll make sure your life is hell, simply because you exposed their incompetency.
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Arizonaguy(m): 12:18pm On Dec 23, 2019
AbdulHakeem44:
Every school has that lecturer where student themselves know that this lecturer doesn't know what he is teaching or lecturing. He is just forcing his way through.

I remember when I was in 300l in unilorin, one of my classmates asked a question in the class, the lecturer didn't know it, so he asked whoever knows it among us to come out to solve it, the scholars amongst us began to reach out for the marker to try their luck, we couldn't reach a conclusion. The next two classes was dedicated to solving that problem, we couldn't, Mr lecturer just jumped onto the next topic.

That same lecturer did similar thing during my Master's degree in the same school few years ago.

Some lecturers are worse than that!!!

Then you begin to wonder why problem solvers are not being pulled out of our universities rather book crammers and degree pursuant.
That has continue to been the bane of our country's development
People filling out position where they have no business with
It brings about reduced efficiency
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by FeedbackNG: 12:27pm On Dec 23, 2019
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Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Sirwallace(m): 12:55pm On Dec 23, 2019
Waxxxy:


Prof Tutor,
You hate the truth. If you like tutor your senior advanced engineering analysis, prof prodigy you don't merit first class. Shikena grin

And your stupid lots is?

Get the fvck out of my mention already with your so called 'truth' dingbat.

I can actually lecture your brightest lecturer. Add that to the list.

Idiots like you deserve Buhari as your president.
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by edoairways: 1:21pm On Dec 23, 2019
RisenPhoenix:


I have had the same experience, but I understand their point. They don't because they do not see the benefit to themselves. No company wants to divulge information or fund research without seeing some sort of benefit in return.
Ok
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by acorntree(m): 3:05pm On Dec 23, 2019
Nigerian students are ungrateful despite the huge amount of knowledge their lecturers had impacted on them they still write bad report about them!!!!
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Nobody: 4:03pm On Dec 23, 2019
walai.. dem plenty for lautech
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Alexun(m): 4:28pm On Dec 23, 2019
rentAcock:
[b]Many lecturers became lecturers because they couldn't become doctors, engineers, pharmacists etc. [/b]They are not only unqualified to teach, they are also frustrated, hence the reason they fail students. We need a total overhaul of out educational system.


...and your frustration reached the level you forgot doctors, engineers, pharmacists, etc are being lectured by the same professionals! It's not a must to comment if you have nothing sensible to deliver.
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by riczy(m): 4:36pm On Dec 23, 2019
OoniOfIfe:
cool






What do u expect?
Even Buhari is not academically qualified to be president.
Tanko is also not qualified to be CJN


Unqualified lecturers full north.
It will take d grace of God to understand an English a northern lecturer is speaking.
Apart from Unijos nd ABU other northern uni lecturers at not even qualified to teach in southern primary schools
Watin u find go northern university?
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Legendguru: 5:38pm On Dec 23, 2019
Hmm
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Legendguru: 5:43pm On Dec 23, 2019
Most
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Nobody: 5:50pm On Dec 23, 2019
englishmart:
That's because some graduates are not qualified to be graduated

Not really their fault. Imagine having lecturers bombarding handouts casually in every class.
Imagine having lecturers who don't even know how to speak good English. These lecturers won't teach you well to your understanding , but on the day of exams the kind of questions you'll see, lol.. It would be as though the questions were set by professors.

The thing is the system is crippled.
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by ahmedsaniadamu(m): 7:05pm On Dec 23, 2019
you are true it's shame for some nothern university that a lecturer can't speak good English
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by AlphaStorm: 11:42pm On Dec 23, 2019
Pridestorm:


Not really their fault. Imagine having lecturers bombarding handouts casually in every class.
Imagine having lecturers who don't even know how to speak good English. These lecturers won't teach you well to your understanding , but on the day of exams the kind of questions you'll see, lol.. It would be as though the questions were set by professors.

The thing is the system is crippled.

That is why they are called Lecturers and NOT Teachers. One of the problems we have is faulty O'level. The University is for research and NOT Teaching like u have it in secondary schools.
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by CodeTemplar: 12:39am On Dec 24, 2019
Sad but true.
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Waxxxy: 1:21am On Dec 24, 2019
Sirwallace:


And your stupid lots is?

Get the fvck out of my mention already with your so called 'truth' dingbat.

I can actually lecture your brightest lecturer. Add that to the list.

Idiots like you deserve Buhari as your president.


Ok sorry, you merit first class. Are you happy now? Please, don't link buhari to my post again. Abi you wan make I vomit? grin
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by benji93: 1:36am On Dec 24, 2019
I am afraid there is a huge dent in your argument. While all professors have specialties, their subfields are subsets of a larger field-for instance physics- for which there are core subjects or perhaps aspects of certain subjects that professors must be well-versed in. Now , being knowledgeable about a subject doesn't always translate to an ability to teach it. In fact there comes the question: what is good Teaching? How do we judge?. From the perspective of the professor? or from the perspective of the student? I mean we can't really blame students lack of understanding of materials on a professor, bur not for the reasons you stated-a better reason could be that the students' previous education was inadequate. From your submission I can understand that you probably were/are not a physics major. There is generally no such thing as professor of electromagnetism today. Electromagnetism is essentially part of core physics now. A large part of the framework of quantum physics is too. Now, professor of condensed matter physics is definitely something and In fact there are sub fields and sub-sub fields of that. However, the fact that you are a professor of condensed matter physics for example means you should be well-versed in certain aspects of quantum mechanics otherwise you have no business teaching it. You may not be a good teacher, but you must know it at least up to the level present in the literature of core physics. That's where qualification comes in. If you didn't go through a decent education, there is a small chance that you understood the core materials to the level expected. Honestly, at this point in time the only solution to our problem is to recruit Phd holders who obtained decent education overseas. This can either come from actually sending students overseas, before they get corrupted I.e at the secondary school. And for this case, the government cannot even properly manage the Scholarship schemes they have instituted. So we are in serious trouble. The student-Professor-Student cycle in Nigeria is corrupt. We need an external input to put cycle back in order and I believe the means is creating an effective system of sending students overseas when their education is still redeemable.
LordAzubuike:

Stop being a fool okay. You can't expect a lecturer to know all. You can't throw random questions at a lecturer and expect him to know it easily. Lecturers have specialty, they have their own field. If you ask him anything outside his field, don't blame him. Same with a professor that you'd expect him to know everything. Professors for instance have their own specialty too. They might all be professors in physics but while one is a professor of acoustic , another is a professor of quantum physics, another is a Prof of electro magnetism and electronics another is a Prof of condensed matter physics. So you can't ask a Prof of acoustics a question relating to electro magnetism and expect him to know it. All of them may answer professor of physics. But they have their own specialty where they did their thesis.

Cc Aremson14
Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by benji93: 1:41am On Dec 24, 2019
Nope, some form of teaching should be present at the university level too. The university is not just for research. Where are you getting that from? You need to be taught, then you can have enough knowledge to know where to look and what to look for.
AlphaStorm:


That is why they are called Lecturers and NOT Teachers. One of the problems we have is faulty O'level. The University is for research and NOT Teaching like u have it in secondary schools.

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Re: Biodun Ogunyemi: Some Lecturers Not Qualified To Be In Varsities by Nobody: 8:00am On Dec 24, 2019
benji93:
Nope, some form of teaching should be present at the university level too. The university is not just for research. Where are you getting that from? You need to be taught, then you can have enough knowledge to know where to look and what to look for.
I wonder oo.

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