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Instead of admitting that you tried to misinform people with that nonsense stuff about how nigeria is the main source of Ghana’s electricity and apologising, you are still talking crap,huh? Nigeria is a powerhouse? Is that a joke or something? What makes nigeria a powerhouse?

Powerhouse? Powerboat? Powerengine? And yet it cannot fix its deteriorating economy? Nigerians are getting poorer and poorer How often do you travel across west Africa,to come to the conclusion that Nigeria dominates in west Africa?

eduman365:
It's no news that Ghana is working towards self-sufficiency, but what I have said about Nigeria being the powerhouse of West Africa, as at today 23rd of December 2019, cannot be disputed. By the way it's not just in the energy sector, trade and commerce in general, sports and entertainment, workforce and everything tangible about West Africa has Nigeria written all over it...

GENEGIRIA:
Instead of admitting that you tried to misinform people with that nonsense stuff about how nigeria [/b]is the main source of [b]Ghana’s electricity and apologising, you are still talking crap,huh? Nigeria is a powerhouse? Is that a joke or something? What makes nigeria a powerhouse?

Powerhouse? Powerboat? Powerengine? And yet it cannot fix its deteriorating economy? Nigerians are getting poorer and poorer How often do you travel across west Africa,to come to the conclusion that Nigeria dominates in west Africa?

It's disrespectful of you to write my country's name in small letters and yours with an initial capital...
If Nigeria isn't the powerhouse of West Africa, then I guess Ghana is... with a population comparable to only Lagos and less cultural diversity, I guess you guys are at the same level with the US.

I won't respond to you anymore because you have been disrespectful, instead of having an intelligent debate about regional economics...

eduman365:
Should we be giving out what we don't have enough in the first place?

It might interest you to know that Nigeria has been the one shouldering the burden of the entire West Africa when we should be focusing on ourselves. Even Ghana's electricity is powered by Nigeria's gas. If something happens to the West African Gas pipeline powered by Nigeria, light drops significantly in Ghana.

The earlier we started redirecting our resources inwards the better for us. When we get it right, then we can start exporting energy again.

They get paid for it man. Probably at a higher rate than we would have paid locally. I doubt it's as simple as don't sell to them because we don't have enough. Are we ready to pay the price they pay? Looks like they pay a lot per MW.

tiwiex:
They get paid for it man. Probably at a higher rate than we would have paid locally. I doubt it's as simple as don't sell to them because we don't have enough. Are we ready to pay the price they pay? Looks like they pay a lot per MW.

I know we don't give them for free, but it would serve a better economic purpose if we pumped the same into our grid. The money realized from this will still be looted by some politicians instead of using it for the good of our own people... We sell millions of barrels of crude oil on a daily basis, still we're not using the funds well. Not everything is about generating funds especially in a country where there is no financial transparency. It would go a long way in helping the country fulfill it's power agenda if used locally IMO.

Please help me tell them.

eduman365:
Should we be giving out what we don't have enough in the first place?

It might interest you to know that Nigeria has been the one shouldering the burden of the entire West Africa when we should be focusing on ourselves. Even Ghana's electricity is powered by Nigeria's gas. If something happens to the West African Gas pipeline powered by Nigeria, light drops significantly in Ghana.

The earlier we started redirecting our resources inwards the better for us. When we get it right, then we can start exporting energy again.

Hmmm......a blessing in disguise. Charity begins at home. No electricity locally.... nor nothing to show for the $665 M....where is the money?

Nigeria has been generating 5000 megawatt since I was born

DonFreshmoney:
So you mean Naija gains 770milluon dollars from exporting light to Niger only.. and we still borrow money and take loans.

Do you know what is $770million

Yes.

It is less than 1 billion dollars.

1 billion dollars is 360 billion Naira.

If distributed amongst every man and child in Nigeria, it would mean 2 Naira per Nigerian per year.

Hardly enough to fill the impact.

eduman365:
Should we be giving out what we don't have enough in the first place?

y again.

If Niger dams the river in their territory, Nigeria will generate less power than we do from the same river we have a dam on already. As we will have to wait for them to open the dam in order for us to have enough water fill our own dam

That's why we export the power to them and they pay us.

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MZrapper:
Nigeria giving out what themselves can't enjoy.

Ghana is the giant of Africa.

I swear down.

NOoooooo

South Africa is the giant of AFRICA

eduman365:
Should we be giving out what we don't have enough in the first place?

It might interest you to know that Nigeria has been the one shouldering the burden of the entire West Africa when we should be focusing on ourselves. Even Ghana's electricity is powered by Nigeria's gas. If something happens to the West African Gas pipeline powered by Nigeria, light drops significantly in Ghana.

The earlier we started redirecting our resources inwards the better for us. When we get it right, then we can start exporting energy again.

The question is, are you giving Ghana gas for free? The power sector in Nigeria is POORLY managed. Revenue collection efficiency by DISCOs is abysmal.

fkj950ax:
If Niger dams the river in their territory, Nigeria will generate less power than we do from the same river we have a dam on already. As we will have to wait for them to open the dam in order for us to have enough water fill our own dam

That's why we export the power to them and they pay us.

I am well aware of that.

We have ~ 10 GW of installed capacity and 7 GW of operating capacity.

However, the Transmission Company of Nigeria can currently only support under 4 GW.

Sending that power to the TCN will be a waste. We're paying some Gencos to NOT generate.

JubrinElSudan:
Good, share the MW among the discos in Nigeria.

eduman365:
Should we be giving out what we don't have enough in the first place?

It might interest you to know that Nigeria has been the one shouldering the burden of the entire West Africa when we should be focusing on ourselves. Even Ghana's electricity is powered by Nigeria's gas. If something happens to the West African Gas pipeline powered by Nigeria, light drops significantly in Ghana.

The earlier we started redirecting our resources inwards the better for us. When we get it right, then we can start exporting energy again.

lol we are not doing it out of charity. These countries pay forex at world prices for our power supply, that's why they get better services. It is the money they pay that sustains the sector. We pay a lot less at home due to regulation. The only solution to the power problem in Nigeria is letting suppliers charge competitive rates (about $0.15 per kwh, or N55 per kwh). At these rates, big players can collect loans from foreign banks and invest in the sector, making it bigger than govt ever can. We currently pay N27 per kwh, so govt subsidies the sector to keep it afloat.

gabe:
lol we are not doing it out of charity. These countries pay forex at world prices for our power supply, that's why they get better services. It is the money they pay that sustains the sector. We pay a lot less at home due to regulation. The only solution to the power problem in Nigeria is letting suppliers charge competitive rates (about $0.15 per kwh, or N55 per kwh). At these rates, big players can collect loans from foreign banks and invest in the sector, making it bigger than govt ever can. We currently pay N27 per kwh, so govt subsidies the sector to keep it afloat.

I just think it would be better for us to channel the resources inwards. These foreign exchange still gets looted after selling everything we need back home. It ends up making it a loss for the citizens who barely benefit anything tangible as most of these things are lost in transit... A country where 20 billion USD was looted...

At the end all this money is not accountable for & we are still borrowing money up & down, the internal generated revenue the govt. are not being hold to give account.. All this stupid citezen who are killing their follow brethren because of apc/pdp instead of joining hand to hold the govt. responsible.

eduman365:
Should we be giving out what we don't have enough in the first place?

It might interest you to know that Nigeria has been the one shouldering the burden of the entire West Africa when we should be focusing on ourselves. Even Ghana's electricity is powered by Nigeria's gas. If something happens to the West African Gas pipeline powered by Nigeria, light drops significantly in Ghana.

The earlier we started redirecting our resources inwards the better for us. When we get it right, then we can start exporting energy again.

The Niger and Benue passes through these countries.

If they build dams, Nigeria won't have enough water current to generate as much electricity as they do now.

So it is a symbiotic relationship.

eduman365:
Should we be giving out what we don't have enough in the first place?

It might interest you to know that Nigeria has been the one shouldering the burden of the entire West Africa when we should be focusing on ourselves. Even Ghana's electricity is powered by Nigeria's gas. If something happens to the West African Gas pipeline powered by Nigeria, light drops significantly in Ghana.

The earlier we started redirecting our resources inwards the better for us. When we get it right, then we can start exporting energy again.

Nigeria isn't giving them electricity for free. Those countries pay through their nose.

Its a kind of quid pro quo arrangement where Togo, Ghana, Niger, Benin are given electricity to stop them from damming the River Niger because if they dam it for their electricity generation, Nigeria would be thrown into darkness. If they dam the River, there'll be not enough water to power Kanji dam and many others in Nigeria. Farmlands in North West and even part of South West would become arid. That means mass food shortage in Nigeria.

If Ghana, Togo, Niger, Benin wants, they'll actually destroy Nigeria's economy simply by damming the River Niger. I think they're even stupid for allowing Nigeria fleece them over the years, instead of building their own dam.

I actually mentioned it a few days ago this's the way to have Nigeria open its border.

I can't believe i read this, so, is actually true that Nigeria is exporting energy.

I've been hearing this since my childhood but in my adult stage i considered it as one of those childish talks.

Oh lord what have we done to deserve these.

eduman365:
Should we be giving out what we don't have enough in the first place?

It might interest you to know that Nigeria has been the one shouldering the burden of the entire West Africa when we should be focusing on ourselves. Even Ghana's electricity is powered by Nigeria's gas. If something happens to the West African Gas pipeline powered by Nigeria, light drops significantly in Ghana.

The earlier we started redirecting our resources inwards the better for us. When we get it right, then we can start exporting energy again.

Omihanifa:
Person way never chop belle full dey give another person food to chop

As if Nigeria won't make more than that amount of money if Niger Republic dams the Niger River and Nigeria channels the exported electricity back to its economy.

Jestin:
How can we be supplying Benin Republic and Togo energy when we are yet to experience improved power supply in Nigeria ?? That country Nigeria dey tire person self seriously .

VillageHead:
Nigeria is likened to a herbslist that cures dysentery while its household is dying of that same ailment.

The reason that we have an agreement to supply Niger Republic (not sure about the other countries) with electricity is so that they do not dam the River Niger upstream, which will severely affect the flow of the river into Nigeria. That will not only affect the hydro stations up North (in Kainji and Shiroro), but will also drastically affect the farmlands and agricultural production (including fisheries) in Nigeria.

PS: Also the electricity is paid in forex for at COMMERCIAL RATES (unlike in Nigeria, where tariffs are not cost-reflective)
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So our case is like that of farmers that eat rotten or undersized crops and take the good ones to the market !

Exporting what we barely have?

SMH

bellotaofeek:
So our case is like that of farmers that eat rotten or undersized crops and take the good ones to the market !

It is truly so sad and senseless.

musicwriter:
Nigeria isn't giving them electricity for free. Those countries pay through their nose.

Its a kind of quid pro quo arrangement where Togo, Ghana, Niger, Benin are given electricity to stop them from damming the River Niger because if they dam it for their electricity generation, Nigeria would be thrown into darkness. If they dam the River, there'll be not enough water to power Kanji dam and many others in Nigeria. Farmlands in North West and even part of South West would become arid. That means mass food shortage in Nigeria.

If Ghana, Togo, Niger, Benin wants, they'll actually destroy Nigeria's economy simply by damming the River Niger. I think they're even stupid for allowing Nigeria fleece them over the years, instead of building their own dam.

I actually mentioned it a few days ago this's the way to have Nigeria open its border.

Too much noise from one powerless being.


Try it or kindly stfu and stay hating

GENEGIRIA:
Let me educate you. Nigeria is contracted to supply 120 million scf of gas daily to Ghana under the west Africa gas project. Supply is very erratic. Most times, Nigeria supplies about 60 million scf per day, which is half of what it is contracted to supply to Ghana. The beautiful thing is that Ghana is getting more than 400 million scf gas daily from its own oil and gas fields. If today nigeria decides to stop supplying gas to Ghana, Ghana won’t even feel it because Ghana is getting enough gas from its own fields.

On top of that, some private investors have built a gas Re gasification facility at Tema, which will allow Ghana to import LNG if it needs more gas. So it is completely false to suggest gas from Nigeria is what keeps the lights on in Ghana. This is a deliberate attempt to mislead people and you should therefore withdraw what you said. Ghana’s electricity is NOT powered by Nigeria’s gas.

Go and sit down please, your write up is senseless..

If Ghana is self sufficient, why are you guys still dependent on Nigeria for gas?

If Ghana can do without Nigerian gas, why even bother? Read what you write before posting, one might think you need to visit a Dr for mental evaluation ASAP.

do you know what a contract is ?

slimdamatrix1:
Go and sit down please, your write up is senseless..

If Ghana is self sufficient, why are you guys still dependent on Nigeria for gas?

If Ghana can do without Nigerian gas, why even bother? Read what you write before posting, one might think you need to visit a Dr for mental evaluation ASAP.

dre11:
https://thenationonlineng.net/nigeria-may-lose-niger-republics-665m-yearly-energy-cash/

this op jux exposed d real reason why u have nt stable electricity.d law of Nigeria put national grid which den sell most of d light 2 outside countries DT d real issue by generator importers rili.to look am na simple matter why not senate amend d law by allowing state grid Nd national grid.why national grid generate nd export light.d flamboyant state like lag,delta rivers etc will generate nd export to other states within Nigeria simple Nd no sand go b put on any bdy garri

A lot of us discuss things we do not understand. We better give Niger power for free and block their building a dam to dam river Niger. Damming river Niger will reduce the flow of water to our kanji dam, meaning lesser water to drive our turbines. This may mean supposed 4000 MW we are generating will reduce to about 2000 MW. Remember that Eko Atlantic alone is using 1000MW, so forget all the big English and think of how this will affect you personally. Now how it will affect the Nigerian economy. If the dam in Niger is built, then the water in River Niger will reduce. Think of the climate change effects, less water means less farming on the river's corridor, meaning lesser income for our farmers. Remember everyone who works in Nigeria has at least 5 dependants, so if you do not pity the farmer, what of his five dependents? Same for farmers. Think of the effect on reduced rainfall.

If we have any sense, we better supply them free / subsidized electricity and block the building of that dam. Unfortunately, we are late to the party.

For reference, please read about the
Grand Ethiopian Renaissance Dam and the war Egypt is waging on Ethiopia so they do no build the dam.

eduman365:
Should we be giving out what we don't have enough in the first place?

It might interest you to know that Nigeria has been the one shouldering the burden of the entire West Africa when we should be focusing on ourselves. Even Ghana's electricity is powered by Nigeria's gas. If something happens to the West African Gas pipeline powered by Nigeria, light drops significantly in Ghana.

The earlier we started redirecting our resources inwards the better for us. When we get it right, then we can start exporting energy again.

Read the article very well. Niger Republic has the right to dam River Nige and that would seriously affect and eliminate almost all the power being generated at Kainji.
Nigeria is scared of that so they entered into agreement whereby Niger Republic allows the river to flow while Nigeria uses the water to generate electricitý and sell some to Niger , Chad at a discount . Nigeria still benefits more from that arrangement because Nigeria will be in serious darkness if Niger Republic should block River Niger.

Ghana has finished constructing their own gas infrastructure and will soon stop buying gas from Nigeria which is used to produce about 20% of their power. They now have enough gas and they know how to use it to generate constant, reliable electricity of about 5000MW. In Ghana, any president that fails to keep the lights on cannot stay in power.
Nigeria cannot generste constant 5000MW electricity and nothing happens to the president even if darkness reigns and evrybody is using generator and businesses are dying..