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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 9:48pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I am not getting it wrong. My opinion is not popular.

You can not tell me the National team coach of a country like Nigeria earns a fortune and has no idea what is going on in the local scene, because he must live in Europe. That does not work.

Sir, what is the ambition of every single player in the NPFL? To win the league? Finish in the top 6? Qualify for Caf Champions League? This is their ambition in order:

1. Sign for any club abroad
2. Build a house and settle family members
3. Start a business in preparation for retirement or unforseen injury.
4. Upgrade to a better club, age willing and fortune willing.

Playing for the Super Eagles is not a priority for 95% of these guys. So we should not waste time but rather focus on the boys we have now and the upcoming popping up everywhere via academies.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:48pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Which Rohr got our players in England, Italy, Germany?

Is it Balogun or Iheanacho or Osimhen or Chukwueze or who?

Go and check Salisu's list before Rohr, a lot of the players Rohr uses today were in the team before him.

Did Rohr contribute to the growth of our local academies or play his part in the age grades? So how is it his impact?

Do you think Osimhen and Chukwueze would have been in the team if Rohr was not there?

Is it the Salisu that was caught on tape collecting bribe that you now want to cite for us as someone who saw talent?

This Thing you are saying reminds me of that saying that when you have finished helping someone, the day you ask them for helpp and remind them that you once helped them, they will ask you, "did I ask you to help me?"

So, now, Rohr did not do anything abi? When Rohr was traveling up and down, meeting coaches and monitoring player progress, I wonder if you were following up. When Rohr was inviting Osimhen even as he was down on his luck, you think Salisu would have been doing that and monitoring him?

This thing you said is the reason why we have leaders that do nothing, because even if you try, tomorrow someone will come and say "wetin e do sef?" Abi you think Rohr couldn't have been chopping salary without moving an inch from his house?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eseose9(f): 9:49pm On Dec 28, 2019
andrewbaba44:


Lol at the bolded

I think thegoodjoe usually do get it wrong when it comes to issues like this

Simple logic o

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:49pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Which work in Europe? The clubs are doing the bulk work for him. If Leicester City drops Iheanacho, he drops Iheanacho, if Pepe Mel plays Uzoho, he calls Uzoho, if Graham Potter drops Balogun, he drops Balogun. If Villareal plays Chukwueze, he calls Chukwueze.

Which work is he doing? Let him sit home and do the work where it is.

1. Scouting upcoming players can be best done in Europe. The likes of Okereke, Ejuke et al.

2. Meeting with coaches of his players to gather intelligence on his players and build relationships. Good country-club relationships is key these days

3. Meeting with players to ascertain their availability or simply check on them can be best done in Europe. Rohr provided a lot of support for Kalu when his mum was kidnapped.

4. Trying to convince diaspora talents that can add to the team is best done from Europe.

In Nigeria, he can only go and watch Ezenwa. And Ezenwa is on the bench.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Eseose9(f): 9:49pm On Dec 28, 2019
andrewbaba44:


Lol at the bolded

I think thegoodjoe usually do get it wrong when it comes to issues like this

Simple logic o
Abi because Rhor drop kele?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:49pm On Dec 28, 2019
Eseose9:

Do you realised that that era is passed?
Our best players are plying their trade abroad

When you understand what gems are, you will understand that no matter the era, gems exist.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:51pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


1. Scouting upcoming players can be best done in Europe. The likes of Okereke, Ejuke et al.

2. Meeting with coaches of his players to gather intelligence on his players and build relationships. Good country-club relationships is key these days

3. Meeting with players to ascertain their availability or simply check on them can be best done in Europe. Rohr provided a lot of support for Kalu when his mum was kidnapped.

4. Trying to convince diaspora talents that can add to the team is best done from Europe.

In Nigeria, he can only go and watch Ezenwa. And Ezenwa in on the bench.

What happens to local scene? Total abandon for years under this man. Trying to sell a lie that no one exist. Instead of saying he is too lazy to work anf check.

I will buy if he says I have watched the league, watched lots of games and I have seen none. Than to say he will not look. Ha.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:53pm On Dec 28, 2019
safarigirl:


Do you think Osimhen and Chukwueze would have been in the team if Rohr was not there?

Is it the Salisu that was caught on tape collecting bribe that you now want to cite for us as someone who saw talent?

This Thing you are saying reminds me of that saying that when you have finished helping someone, the day you ask them for helpp and remind them that you once helped them, they will ask you, "did I ask you to help me?"

So, now, Rohr did not do anything abi? When Rohr was traveling up and down, meeting coaches and monitoring player progress, I wonder if you were following up. When Rohr was inviting Osimhen even as he was down on his luck, you think Salisu would have been doing that and monitoring him?

This thing you said is the reason why we have leaders that do nothing, because even if you try, tomorrow someone will come and say "wetin e do sef?" Abi you think Rohr couldn't have been chopping salary without moving an inch from his house?

Which kind talk is that?

That Osimhen and Chukwueze, who are starring for Lille and Villareal will not make the team.

That is like saying Osaze and Ike Uche and Martins would not have made the team if Rohr was not coach. Heck, players Rohr is using now made the team before his arrival.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:54pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Other coaches earned far less and did more work in the local scene, while still handling their Super Eagles job.

Who are the other coaches?

Please mention coaches that did far better and earned far less, preferably in this decade.

Don't drag is back to the 90's if you can, because everyone with two eyes knows that the local players we have today are not even a quarter of the quality of those players

Rohr watched CHAN, and that is supposed to be a team of the best local players. People that were collecting from Togo are the ones you expect someone that has sense, to go and be picking players from?

In fact, in what sane clime does the coach have the responsibility of scouting players? Where does it happen? What is Salisu's job description, if it is Rohr that is supposed to scout local players?

Maybe you should submit your CV to NFF and apply for Rohr's job. Sunday Oliseh kuku talk pass this one that time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:54pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Which work in Europe? The clubs are doing the bulk work for him. If Leicester City drops Iheanacho, he drops Iheanacho, if Pepe Mel plays Uzoho, he calls Uzoho, if Graham Potter drops Balogun, he drops Balogun. If Villareal plays Chukwueze, he calls Chukwueze.

Which work is he doing? Let him sit home and do the work where it is.
spot on

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:55pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Which Rohr got our players in England, Italy, Germany?

Is it Balogun or Iheanacho or Osimhen or Chukwueze or who?

Go and check Salisu's list before Rohr, a lot of the players Rohr uses today were in the team before him.

Did Rohr contribute to the growth of our local academies or play his part in the age grades? So how is it his impact?

I can tell you for free that Rohr has pushed our players to seek better leagues to play in the National team.

It is not a coincidence that they are going to France or Spain instead of Turkey.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:56pm On Dec 28, 2019
maidaboi:
spot on

What is in doing in Nigeria?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 9:59pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Which kind talk is that?

That Osimhen and Chukwueze, who are starring for Lille and Villareal will not make the team.

That is like saying Osaze and Ike Uche and Martins would not have made the team if Rohr was not coach. Heck, players Rohr is using now made the team before his arrival.
has it not happened before?

Were we not here when a bunch of farmers and carpenters were fielded over the likes of Mikel and co under Oliseh and Siasia respectively?

Is it because you are seeing the Osimhen in Lille? Do you know if Osimhen could have been in Lille today considering the tumultous path his career took?

You just decided to wipe out the period of back to back AFCON failures because you are having it good today. Na so people dey do, when you pull them out of their wretched state, the next thing is to start feeling as if they are bigger than you and they could have done everything without you

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chidi1: 10:00pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


When you understand what gems are, you will understand that no matter the era, gems exist.

The Goodjoe, I repeat my earlier question. Please enlighten me on these "gems" you are referring to that play in the local league!!! I am yet to find any.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:00pm On Dec 28, 2019
safarigirl:


Do you think Osimhen and Chukwueze would have been in the team if Rohr was not there?

Is it the Salisu that was caught on tape collecting bribe that you now want to cite for us as someone who saw talent?

This Thing you are saying reminds me of that saying that when you have finished helping someone, the day you ask them for helpp and remind them that you once helped them, they will ask you, "did I ask you to help me?"

So, now, Rohr did not do anything abi? When Rohr was traveling up and down, meeting coaches and monitoring player progress, I wonder if you were following up. When Rohr was inviting Osimhen even as he was down on his luck, you think Salisu would have been doing that and monitoring him?

This thing you said is the reason why we have leaders that do nothing, because even if you try, tomorrow someone will come and say "wetin e do sef?" Abi you think Rohr couldn't have been chopping salary without moving an inch from his house?

Salisu's list against Luxembourg before the arrival of Rohr.

30 Daniel Akpeyi
22 Kenneth Omeruo
4 William Troost-Ekong
33 Gbenga Arokoyo
3 Elderson Echiéjilé
22 Musa Muhammed
72 Kelechi Iheanacho
17 Ogenyi Onazi
21 Wilfred Ndidi
15 Abdullahi Shehu
12 Raheem Lawal
8 Brown Ideye
24 Odion Ighalo
13 Aminu Umar
27  Moses Simon
45 Alex Iwobi
18  Michael Babatunde
1 Carl Ikeme
23 Ikechukwu Ezenwa
6 Leon Balogun
15 Kingsley Madu
14 Peter Etebo
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:01pm On Dec 28, 2019
Michael Edwards managed to sign Andy Robertson, Mo Salah and Takumi Minamino for a combined £51.5m

In that time he has sold Dominic Solanke, Kevin Stewart, Ryan Kent, Danny Ward and Andre Wisdom for £51.5m

That's how its done, unlike ManCity who goes about breaking FFP rules.�

#Edited

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:01pm On Dec 28, 2019
chidi1:


The Goodjoe, I repeat my earlier question. Please enlighten me on these "gems" you are referring to that play in the local league!!! I am yet to find any.

I repeat, tell Rohr to do his job and Identify gems. I did not identify Ogude and Oboabona for Keshi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:02pm On Dec 28, 2019
ChrisKels:
Michael Edwards managed to sign Andy Robertson, Mo Salah and Takumi Minamino for a combined £51.5m

In that time he has sold Dominic Solanke, Kevin Stewart, Ryan Kent, Danny Ward and Andre Wisdom for £51.5m

That's how its done, unlike ManCity who goes about breaking FFP rules.�

#Edited

Where is Van Dyke and Allison in your list. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:02pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


What happens to local scene? Total abandon for years under this man. Trying to sell a lie that no one exist. Instead of saying he is too lazy to work anf check.

I will buy if he says I have watched the league, watched lots of games and I have seen none. Than to say he will not look. Ha.

Again, you do not need Rohr to develop the local scene. That is the lazy thinking.

Rohr was appointed super eagles coach.

Rohr has watched several local league games, even got his phone stolen for his trouble.

It takes a lot of effort to get through some of these games because they are of low quality.

The problem with the league is structural.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:03pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Which work in Europe? The clubs are doing the bulk work for him. If Leicester City drops Iheanacho, he drops Iheanacho, if Pepe Mel plays Uzoho, he calls Uzoho, if Graham Potter drops Balogun, he drops Balogun. If Villareal plays Chukwueze, he calls Chukwueze.

Which work is he doing? Let him sit home and do the work where it is.

I feel like crossing out this entire thing you started.

Everything in this post is trash, sorry to say

When Leicester dropped Iheanacho, did Rohr not have talks with the managers concerning him? He even came to give us feedback. When Kelechi was playing rubbish and could barely get game time last year, did Rohr not take him to Russia despite that? Did he just drop him out of nowhere? Which club was doing work for him?

And for you to even include Uzoho's gist hen.....may somebody not rubbish your past efforts one day, in a bid to justify your struggles in the present.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:04pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


I repeat, tell Rohr to do his job and Identify gems. I did not identify Ogude and Oboabona for Keshi.

Please where are Oboabana and Ogude today?? BY 2015, Oboabana was finished. Is that what you call a gem.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:04pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


I can tell you for free that Rohr has pushed our players to seek better leagues to play in the National team.

It is not a coincidence that they are going to France or Spain instead of Turkey.

Like Osimhen and Chukwueze. Or Aribo. Maybe Uzoho. What has he done in the local scene?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:06pm On Dec 28, 2019
safarigirl:


I feel like crossing out this entire thing you started.

Everything in this post is trash, sorry to say

When Leicester dropped Iheanacho, did Rohr not have talks with the managers concerning him? He even came to give us feedback. When Kelechi was playing rubbish and could barely get game time last year, did Rohr not take him to Russia despite that? Did he just drop him out of nowhere? Which club was doing work for him?

And for you to even include Uzoho's gist hen.....may somebody not rubbish your past efforts one day, in a bid to justify your struggles in the present.

Rohr went online to blast Iheanacho. Wow. So much work he is doing. Wolfsburg drops Osimhen, he drops Osimhen. Lille signs Osimhen, he calls Osimhen. The job is too hard.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:06pm On Dec 28, 2019
chidi1:


The Goodjoe, I repeat my earlier question. Please enlighten me on these "gems" you are referring to that play in the local league!!! I am yet to find any.
even him, e no sabi anyone.

Tell goodjoe to give us a comprehensive list of all the gems in the local leagues today, since he wants to slate Rohr.

The guy is just spreading half truths on this thread and assumptions and he is yet to give any solid response on the possible gems to be unearthed in the local league
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:07pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Rohr went online to blast Iheanacho. Wow. So much work he is doing. Wolfsburg drops Osimhen, he drops Osimhen. Lille signs Osimhen, he calls Osimhen. The job is too hard.

Still Talking Trash.

Go and Do the job, it is too easy. Maybe village witches will eventually chase you out like they did Oliseh

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:07pm On Dec 28, 2019
Monaco signs Onyekuru, Rohr calls Onyekuru. They bench Onyekuru, he drops Onyekuru. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:07pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Like Osimhen and Chukwueze. Or Aribo. Maybe Uzoho. What has he done in the local scene?

Like Omeruo, Kalu, Simon Moses, Ekong.

He is coach of the super eagles not of the local scene
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:08pm On Dec 28, 2019
Truidstar:


Sir, what is the ambition of every single player in the NPFL? To win the league? Finish in the top 6? Qualify for Caf Champions League? This is their ambition in order:

1. Sign for any club abroad
2. Build a house and settle family members
3. Start a business in preparation for retirement or unforseen injury.
4. Upgrade to a better club, age willing and fortune willing.

Playing for the Super Eagles is not a priority for 95% of these guys. So we should not waste time but rather focus on the boys we have now and the upcoming popping up everywhere via academies.

I agree 100% ..until the league is restructured, calling up players from there to the national team would b a waste of time...some of the invited players will use the national team to get contract in some backwater leagues and we will have to call up another player from the league to replace them... and the cycle goes on and on..


Pinnick and the NFF should stop thinking that getting local players into the national team is the best way to develop the league. Keshi tried it and we didn't see any improvement in the league....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 10:08pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:
Monaco signs Onyekuru, Rohr calls Onyekuru. They bench Onyekuru, he drops Onyekuru. grin

Players are selected based on form.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 10:09pm On Dec 28, 2019
TheGoodJoe:


Like Osimhen and Chukwueze. Or Aribo. Maybe Uzoho. What has he done in the local scene?
you think Aribo would be in the team or even Uzoho if not for Rohr?

The local scene is not his problem, tell Salisu to unearth gems there, abi what is Salisu doing aside collecting bribe?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:09pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


Please where are Oboabana and Ogude today?? BY 2015, Oboabana was finished. Is that what you can a gem.

At least they were identified and played their part in winning the AFCON. Where are the ones picked by Rohr?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:10pm On Dec 28, 2019
tbaba1234:


Like Omeruo, Kalu, Simon Moses, Ekong.

He is coach of the super eagles not of the local scene

How many did he discover or play a part in discovering? Three in that list were Super Eagles players before Rohr's arrival. So what was so impactful in that?

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