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Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MizJanet(f): 9:04pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
solite3: pardon, but inside the Bible it's written that at ressurection, it is sown a physical body and raised a spiritual body, that Bible then becomes a lie if Jesus was raised with the same physical body . Do you guys think at all ? |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 9:23pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
solite3: That's called OBEDIENCE . When you humbled yourself to listen to your parents . You are obedient . It doesn't rule out the fact that a COMMAND was Given . Jesus is not Almighty to have received a command to obey . Hebrew 6:13 none is Greater than the Almighty. Receiving Command means there is someone greater . Jesus therefore isn't Almighty
We find two statement. All things are made through the Father All things are made through Jesus . You and I agree that God used Jesus to create all other things , that explains what came through Jesus. So it begs the question: What exactly came through the Father ?? |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by okrikaboi: 9:53pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
sonmvayina:"He will return soon" that was the only part of your comment that made sense. |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 10:59pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
MizJanet:The resurrection of Jesus was clearly written in the bible. Jesus confirmed he was not a spirit but a real Human. Luke 24:39, 43 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. And he took it, and did eat before them. The body of Jesus was not seen in the grave. Luke 24:3 And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. Jesus clearly stated that his body will be raised John 2:19, 21 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. But he spake of the temple of his body. @ bolded that is a lie Here is the correct rendering 1 Corinthians 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. Remember it is the same body that was sowed that is resurrected no creation of a new body but the only difference is that the resurrection body is raised as a spiritual body rather than a natural one meaning that the resurrection body is not natural eg subject to natural constraints. |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 11:00pm On Dec 18, 2019 |
Barristter07:I cant keep on repeating one point over and over again. Good day |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Barristter07: 9:31am On Dec 19, 2019 |
solite3: I only made three points . Just say you have no rebuttal . 1.He was OBEDIENT ... That's why he make himself to he sent. That doesn't remove the fact that there was a COMMAND . 2. None is greater than Almighty ( Heb 6:13 ) , He can't receive command from anyone . You only receive command from someone greater than you. The beautiful thing is he received the command in his heavenly divine form. A blow to Trinity. Not even human 3. I asked: What exactly was made through the Father ? What creation was made through him ? |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MizJanet(f): 3:52pm On Dec 19, 2019 |
solite3: K
A real human eats and the body process it , then feaces occur and there is a need to go to toilet, Even Jesus explain this in one of his parables , am making a reference to Matthew 15 verse 17 which says
My question here is: If you agree he is human, Will he excrete that fish he ate ?
Has Blood like the former ? Study it well!!! The natural there means physical , check many versions for proof. Spiritual definition here means that which is opposed to Physical . You can't claim he is raised a spiritual body if he is still physical . Both are opposed |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Hairyrapunzel: 12:23pm On Dec 21, 2019 |
JMAN05:Your gb says that the way they know that they are anointed is a mystery. Hypocrite |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Hairyrapunzel: 12:37pm On Dec 21, 2019 |
MizJanet: Where in the bible did they mention he excreted fish or didn't excrete the fish he ate? Are you people alright? Why is it that you guys think of the things not ever stated in the bible and use it as defense. Bible did not state whether jesus excreted what he ate or didn't excrete You just speculate and make your beliefs on those speculations. Show us the verse in luke 24 where he excreted or didn't excrete what he ate. Don't direct us to a parable in matt that was not referring to his resurrection. If we use parable to defend hellfire you guys will say it's a lie that it's a parable so it's not real. Whereas you are mentioning a parable in matt 15 that talks about sin not resurrection stating that luke 24 is supposed to talk about what matt said if Jesus's resurrection was really physical when the luke 24 was silent on the issue Do you people think we are dumb like you jws? |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Hairyrapunzel: 12:48pm On Dec 21, 2019 |
Barristter07: You are just trying to defend your belief that your jehovah is coming destroy/kill/murder/slaughter people because they refused to accept your leaders (gb) as the only channel of communication between God and man today and worship God through them (gb) so jws can leave forever on paradise earth. Lol Whether you like it or not Jesus Christ is Almighty God, King of kings, Lord of lords, Eternal father and Jehovah. You want to justify the belief inside your head/imagination and watchtower magazine that your gb will go to heaven to rule as kings and priests alongside Jesus while you their followers will remain on earth forever after your jehovah wipes out all non jws and vultures eat their corpses. Your new system will smell of dead bodies for a long time. You guys will also have post traumatic stress disorder. |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Hairyrapunzel: 12:51pm On Dec 21, 2019 |
Barristter07: Show us the bible passage where they said because Jesus Christ was Obedient, obeys command, and creation was made through him made him not God or made him a lesser god or made him angel Michael? When you show me the bible passage I will agree that jehovah witness is the one true religion |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MizJanet(f): 11:06am On Dec 22, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel: church man, I don't really know where you came from . All you wrote up there is brain dead analysis , Sin or no sin, when humans eat they excrete. Has nothing to do with sin, it's nature, Was biology omitted in your courses at secondary school ? If he didn't excrete then he isn't human, just a spirit appearing in human body like the angels that ate with Hebrew Father Abraham . The ball is in you guys court |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Hairyrapunzel: 12:37pm On Dec 22, 2019 |
MizJanet: Did they say jesus excreted or did not excrete? You are arguing from silence. You should show us where they said criteria for identifying humans in the bible was excepting wastes. Show us where they wrote excretion in the chapter you were talking about? If the bible did not talk about him excreting in that chapter I wonder why you are assuming. Assumer aka speculators. Instead of showing us bible verse you are busy talking about biology textbooks mtcheww. |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MizJanet(f): 6:55pm On Dec 23, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel: Mehhhn, Despite I gave you words of Jesus himself that whatever enters the mouth would be passed as excrement and that you did Biology in secondary school . MR NIGER D . Characteristics of living things. E stands for EXCRETION , do you just decide to be stupid to prove a point ? Going into the Bible , God himself understand EXCRETION is a characteristics of an humans using the words " HUMAN EXCRETION " at Ezekiel 4 vs 15 , are you still blind to the fact that if Jesus was human he must excrete what he ate ? |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Hairyrapunzel: 9:00pm On Dec 23, 2019 |
MizJanet: Then why didn't the bible say Jesus christ didn't or did excrete? Abi you want to rewrite the bible? Kuku add that jesus didn't excrete so we will see it. 1 Like |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MizJanet(f): 10:06am On Dec 24, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel: Loser, you guys are the one saying he is human, deal with the consequence. Human excrete when they eat , your Bible testify Ezekiel 4 vs 15 . Deal with it |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Hairyrapunzel: 10:25am On Dec 24, 2019 |
MizJanet: You that is a winner can't show us where they said jesus excreted or didn't excrete in the verses you quoted. You have now gone to Ezekiel 4:15. You will soon enter rev. Even to put that jesus didn't excrete in the bible you are finding it difficult. Lol Your assumption isn't stated in the bible. Deal with eat and take your 'L' in peace. You want to force something that was not written for jesus in the bible. Your argument alone is dead on arrival till you show us the bible verse where jesus excreted or didn't excrete. |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Hairyrapunzel: 10:28am On Dec 24, 2019 |
MizJanet: You that is saying jesus was not human because he didn't excrete is yet to show us where they wrote that he didn't excrete in the bible. Lol You are the bigger LOSER here. I am still waiting for the verse that said you are not a human being in the bible if the bible didn't mention you passed excrement even if you ate food and talked to humans. Lol |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MizJanet(f): 2:52pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel: Loser, so he actual excreted ? excretion is corruption , it breeds decay . That means your Jesus wasn't raised incorruptible . Eeyah |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MizJanet(f): 2:58pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel: See church man, I don't know why you are so pained that u even have The gut to quote me twice , If you claim he is human, oga he must excrete . Human digestive system is designed to excrete, EXCRETION of waste products from the body or else the person dies . I even gave you Ezekiel 4:15 u pretend as if it's not inside your Bible , EXCRETION is part of been human. U loser didn't even realize that Jesus to have excrete that waste means he still produces decay, I thought your Bible said corruption cannot inherit incorruption ? So Heaven is designed. To accommodate corrupt and decay elements like feaces from an human ? U have a brain , don't you ? |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 4:47pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
MizJanet:that is because God fashioned it to function that way. My question here is: If you agree he is human, Will he excrete that fish he ate ?there is the need to draw the line between physical and natural. Natural in this case mean a body that is subject to the physical laws of nature with all its draw back. Jesus body is Spiritual but yet physical meaning that it is not subject to the laws of nature but can fully experience the physical without its draw back when he so desires |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Hairyrapunzel: 6:03pm On Dec 29, 2019 |
MizJanet: So show me where they said he excreted or didn't excrete in the bible GBAM |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MizJanet(f): 1:29pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
solite3: Do you know what is called Oxymoron ? Did your Bible say it is sown physical and raise spiritual but physical ? U are sounding dumb and even conflicting your Bible join Paul: sown physical raised Spiritual Solite3: no paul, you are wrong , sown physical raised Spiritual but still physical. Examine what oxymoron means |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MizJanet(f): 1:32pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel: Anything human must excrete what they eat . Eze 4:15 U sounding dumb already, For your claim that he is human to be true. He must excrete nd EXCRETION proves he is subjected to decay |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Hairyrapunzel: 3:06pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
MizJanet: Abeg show us the bible passage where it was said that he excreted or didn't excrete. GBAM You are the person sounding dumb. Simple bible passage you can't show |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 4:58pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
MizJanet:educate yourself on the meaning of natural and physical. I wont reply you anymore since you are deliberately dumb. |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Janosky: 10:17pm On Dec 31, 2019 |
solite3: **** 1 Cor15:44.. Good News Translation When buried, it is a physical body; when raised, it will be a spiritual body. There is, of course, a physical body, so there has to be a spiritual body. Aramaic Bible in Plain English It is sown an animal body; a spiritual body rises, for there is an animal body, and there is a spiritual body. New American Standard 1977 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. King James 2000 Bible It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body." ************" Solite3, for you to grow old is mandatory.. But , it's optional for you to grow up..... For how long will you be deceiving yourself? |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 12:49am On Jan 01, 2020 |
Janosky:Dont quote me if you have nothing reasonable to say. Jesus body is spiritual and yet his resurrection was a physical one. people saw him held him with their hand, and he even eat with them. Jehovah witness antichrist deny the bodily resurrestion from the dead. Saying God destroyed the body of Jesus, whereas the bible said Jesus body saw no corruption. yet again Jesus said he will raise his body after it was destroyed by the Jews. |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 6:49am On Jan 01, 2020 |
solite3:JESUS CHRIST is the son of God The father is the one that knows when Jesus is coming again |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 6:51am On Jan 01, 2020 |
solite3:Jesus Christ body was transformed from ordinary flesh and blood into a spiritual body which can teleport,pass through wall etc |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by Nobody: 8:32am On Jan 01, 2020 |
Viciheaka:yes Jesus body was transformed not destroyed and It was still his physical body not another one. Jesus himself said he had flesh and bones. Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. |
Re: Question: "If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Not Know When He Would Return?" by MizJanet(f): 2:04pm On Jan 01, 2020 |
Hairyrapunzel:loser, Is he human ? |
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