baby124:

Federal might, former capital... all this nonsense. Show me the benefit of all that in Lagos? Tell me? Why are they not allowing the same rubbish in Abuja? Why has Abuja and Calabar not been able to bring themselves up to the level of Lagos? My governor has done nothing yet those so called governors that are doing g great work, almost half of their constituents are in Lagos hustling with most homeless. If that is the level of work you get from your governor and what you expect, no wonder you are on NL defending shanties and other rubbish.

Shame on you to compare a former federal capital territory with Calabar. Was Calabar a federal capital territory of Nigeria as it's known today? Olodo!

Person wey never see other places dey talk about other state governors. Give other southern regions (warri, Calabar, pH) the same ports status as Lagos and see if the overrated pigsty of a state isn't emigrated.

xaggar:


Shame on you to compare a former federal capital territory with Calabar. Was Calabar a federal capital territory of Nigeria as it's known today? Olodo!

Person wey never see other places dey talk about other state governors. Give other southern regions (warri, Calabar, pH) the same ports status as Lagos and see if the overrated pigsty of a state isn't emigrated.

Calabar was a colonial capital, Abuja has federal might. Still they are learners when it comes to Lagos. Ports are in Warri, yet it’s like Sahara desert. Everybody is running, even Warri people. We are tired of useless and senseless excuses from 1900. The people simply have no brain or will to help themselves. If e pain you, go to Abuja and ask FG for help. Not Lagos. We choose to use our allocation to do something. Try that approach.

Myself2:


And some hardened criminals live in those places and they also collect rent and tax from the other Jew men who own shops there. Drug sales and abuse, teen pregnancy everywhere, innocent children are quickly corrupted and robbed of their childhood, countless sex abuse, the list goes on and on

I was in that area last week , what u said is what is happening there


u see some park their Keke and okada , only to be using it at night, in the day they will be drinking and playing gambling

though some of them are doing legal jobs. but it's a good move by the government. it will unseat most of them , development affects people , at least them themselves knew a day like this will come .

baby124:

Lol. Low cost housing is a subsidy. You brought up the low cost housing idea. Why are you dancing around like a snake and trying to deny it’s not a welfare initiative? Is it because I said that should be reserved for indigenes? You talk of concepts you are clueless about. When I correct you, you say I am young LMAO. I am sure that in life I have more experience than you in every way. If you do not know that low cost housing is a welfare initiative and should not exist in your capitalist utopia, then you are very young and highly inexperienced. I have an empire to build. I am done here.

You post betrays your naivety and lack of experience. It is only naive people that blame outsiders for their failings, this is what caused xenophobia.

I am an architect and I will school you on all low cost housing projects done by previous Lagos administration.

A good example is the Odogunyan low cost housing project by the Tinubu administration. Tinubu completed the project in 1992 and sold each 3 bedroom flat for N500,000 each. There are about 500 flats. The various bank - Union Bank, Wema Bank and one other bank I can't remember now, bought the flats in bulk and sold to individuals at N2,000,000. The people that bought from the banks sold at between 3 to 4 million.
That is what will happen if Lagos sell at subsidised prices to indigenes. It people that have the money (indigenes or non indigenes ) that will eventually buy it.

Besides, the APC Lagos State government is ultra capitalist. They no send where money dey come from. Thank god dey no send indigene or non indigene. They are ready to toll the air you breath if it's possible. The road that Jakande build, they toll it. The road that marwa build, they expanded it and concessioned it. The bridge they build, they toll it. You think the APC government would subsidise houses?

majamajic:



I was in that area last week , what u said is what is happening there


u see some park their Keke and okada , only to be using it at night, in the day they will be drinking and playing gambling

though some of them are doing legal jobs. but it's a good move by the government. it will unseat most of them , development affects people , at least them themselves knew a day like this will come .

You people have refused to answer the basic fundamental question;
Where will low income people serving and servicing the high brow V/I, Lekki and Ikoyi axis live?

wirinet:


You post betrays your nativity and lack of experience. It is only naive people that blame outsiders for their failings, this is what caused xenophobia.

I am an architect and I will school you on all low cost housing projects done by previous Lagos administration.

A good example is the Odogunyan low cost housing project by the Tinubu administration. Tinubu completed the project in 1992 and sold each 3 bedroom flat for N500,000 each. There are about 500 flats. The various bank - Union Bank, Wema Bank and one other bank I can't remember now, bought the flats in bulk and sold to individuals at N2,000,000. The people that bought from the banks sold at between 3 to 4 million.
That is what will happen if Lagos sell at subsidised prices to indigenes. It people that have the money (indigenes or non indigenes ) that will eventually buy it.

Besides, the APC Lagos State government is ultra capitalist. They no send where money dey come from. Thank god dey no send indigene or non indigene. They are ready to toll the air you breath if it's possible. The road that Jakande build, they toll it. The road that marwa build, they expanded it and concessioned it. The bridge they build, they toll it. You think the APC government would subsidise houses?

I know you don’t have work. I am not on NL to babysit you. Lagos owes no one low cost housing. Except indigenes. Period. If you no get where to live and work, don’t come and set up shacks and start destroying the whole place. Face your governor.

Many of u went to school but still reason like lunatics so govt should provide alternatives for those staying in another's property because your brain is dead. Those staying on the shanty don't know the govt can strike any time.ba ?

Haniel18:

Sorry to say but ur reply shows hw insensitive and myopic u are in ur thinking. U are d type dat complained abt those attacks in south Africa but unknown to u ur reply portrays d same tin. We are Nigerias for Christ sake and we should be free to live anywhere in d country in peace and harmony, do u knw hw many yorubas that live in the north, east and south living legally and illegally, trade and better standard of living makes people migrate to different zones for settlement.
If truly their stay there is causing havoc den d government should make an alternative to them.

Haniel18:


If truly their stay there is causing havoc den d government should make an alternative to them.

why? Why dont you tell the governors of the places they come from to provide jobs so all of them dont migrate to lagos and create slums and congestion? The more Lagos government accommodates them, the more they are encouraged to migrate.

baby124:

Calabar was a colonial capital, Abuja has federal might. Still they are learners when it comes to Lagos. Ports are in Warri, yet it’s like Sahara desert. Everybody is running, even Warri people. We are tired of useless and senseless excuses from 1900. The people simply have no brain or will to help themselves. If e pain you, go to Abuja and ask FG for help. Not Lagos. We choose to use our allocation to do something. Try that approach.

You just being a blockhead to what's really going on. You lack a sense of current affairs and I can understand that you are a toddler when it comes to these things (politics).

Do you know the amount of money pumped into the Lagos ports by the federal govt at the detriment of other ports in Nigeria?

You hear of dry ports in kaduna and federal cash spent to make it work but you wonder why a port at a sea shore (warri, onne, pH, Calabar) isn't concentrated on or developed?

You say Abuja is a learner when it comes to Lagos. Lol! My guy just shut up! The sea isn't an infrastructure.

xaggar:


You just being a blockhead to what's really going on. You lack a sense of current affairs and I can understand that you are a toddler when it comes to these things (politics).

Do you know the amount of money pumped into the Lagos ports by the federal govt at the detriment of other ports in Nigeria?

You hear of dry ports in kaduna and federal cash spent to make it work but you wonder why a port at a sea shore (warri, onne, pH, Calabar) isn't concentrated on or developed?

You say Abuja is a learner when it comes to Lagos. Lol! My guy just shut up! The sea isn't an infrastructure.

Then why are they running to Lagos retard? Why are YOU in Lagos if all these wonderful things exist in your state? Take all the shanty occupants and expose them to the milk and honey in your state you blockhead. We say we don’t want, Na by force?

wirinet:


You people have refused to answer the basic fundamental question;
Where will low income people serving and servicing the high brow V/I, Lekki and Ikoyi axis live?

u don't know anything about this area , if u know u won't be saying such , those people that u are talking about they are serving are not happy those places around them , take that twinwater mall for example that's going into lekki from alternative route to come out from pinnacle filling station , that ocean view there , do u see the kind of oddur coming out from the Atlantic ocean there ? they do Cross over to that beach and shit there , do u ever think if any fracas came up , can the police overcome them easily ?

if u live in lekki and need a cleaner or house maid , must u pick someone living in Shanti area ? if u are riding okada and Keke must u live at the place u are serving , mind u Uber and taxify guys do come all the way from mainland to come work in lekki and go back or do lekki people complain about lack of E-hailing taxi services ?

the insecurities alone , govt did a good job by pushing them back , they didn't deport them , they pushed them back , it's development once development comes , people do suffer from it , but it's a good thing !!


u can't come and occupy lands that government can make billions from illegally , think if your family own those lands , u won't be happy about it too , if am around lekki I normally go there to wash my car cos it's cheaper ( N500 ) inside lekki is 1500, so I normally use the opportunity to go inside the slum , in a naked mid working day u need see the activities going on there .

baby124:

Then why are they running to Lagos retard? Why are YOU in Lagos if all these wonderful things exist in your state? Take all the shanty occupants and expose them to the milk and honey in your state you blockhead. We say we don’t want, Na by force?

Guy I'm not in the lagoon or Lagos for your information.

Tha place is over hyped and smelly.

zz

OyinO:


You're cursing your God and Jesus because before you were formed in your mother's womb or born, they knew you and ordered your birth in Nigeria.

Quote me again and receive 7 years of suffering

baby124:

Let their state governors grant those alternatives. What are they running from in their own states? So Lagos is a rubbish dump where everybody comes to set up dustbins

Have you ever asked yourself why after graduating from the university

When it's time for NYSC, why are people not posted to their state of origin ❓

majamajic:




u don't know anything about this area , if u know u won't be saying such , those people that u are talking about they are serving are not happy those places around them , take that twinwater mall for example that's going into lekki from alternative route to come out from pinnacle filling station , that ocean view there , do u see the kind of oddur coming out from the Atlantic ocean there ? they do Cross over to that beach and shit there , do u ever think if any fracas came up , can the police overcome them easily ?

if u live in lekki and need a cleaner or house maid , must u pick someone living in Shanti area ? if u are riding okada and Keke must u live at the place in are serving , mind u Uber and taxify guys do come all the way from mainland to come work in lekki and go back.

the insecurities alone , govt did a good job by pushing them back , they didn't deport them , they pushed them back , it's development once development comes , people do suffer from it , but it's a good thing !!


u can't come and occupy a land that government can make billion from illegally , think if your family own those lands , u won't be happy about it too , if am around lekki I normally go there to wash my car cos it's cheaper ( N500 ) inside lekki is 1500, so I normally use the opportunity to go inside , in a naked mid working day u need see the activities going on there .

The problem with us Africans is that we are very narrow minded and tend to look at issues from only our tunnel vision perspective.

I lived in V/I (bar beach towers) for 20 years and I lived in main Ikoyi for 8 years. So I have wider perspectives from both sides.

Yes, all you said is valid from the perspective of the elite, but what of the perspective of the low income workers or services provider struggling to survive. Basic human instinct is survival and would risk everything and defy all odds to get to where he feels his chances of survival are better. People still cross the Sahara desert and Mediterranean Sea, despite the chances of surviving the journey being very slim.

I am an architect and in one of my courses called urban planing, it clearly taught me that if you fail to plan for low income housing when planing your urban cities, shanties and squatter settlements will naturally develop. This problem is not unique to Nigeria or Africa. Even France and USA battle with squatter settlements issues. The rich elites often don't like seeing or associating with poor people, except for exploitation. The failure of the ruling elites to make provisions for the poor people always come back and hunt them.

I left V/I about 15 years ago and I hardly go there. I went to visit a friend at Muri Okunola last week and I was appalled by the state of the roads. The traffic was horrendous and the roads were terrible. Muri Okunola itself was impassable.

I am sorry to say, but with all the allocations going to Lagos and the high IGR, the infrastructures is nothing to write about in terms of maintenance. Yes, I know other states even fare worse than Lagos, it still does not exonerate Lagos State governments.

I am one of those that believes the pressure on Lagos is too much, hosting the 2 major sea ports in the country, hosting the most important international airport and now planing on hosting the biggest refinery in Africa and a free trade zone, in such a tiny state? We go soon dey climb on top each other.

Anyway the main problem of Lagos is urban planing. There seem to be non whatsoever by the various governments

Lagosfinder:



You have to understand they are occupying the place illegally and also big men living around feel threaten by their continual stay

Do not argue with most Nigerians, most of them react to issues with emotions instead of logic.

Lekki and VI are places meant for the rich, the plan states that. The poor should understand and stay away from these places to avoid the wrath of the planners. That is how oyinbo man's land is planned.

On the security, you are right, any time me and my wife go to the beaches around those areas, she feels so scared because of those occupying the shanties.

What I don't support is the govt destroying their goods. They should, though out of pity, compensate them with token for relocation and give the adequate time to relocate peacefully.

wirinet:

You are obviously unexposed. There are shanties and squatter settlements in the USA.

E Pele Mr Ajala.

wirinet:


You people have refused to answer the basic fundamental question;
Where will low income people serving and servicing the high brow V/I, Lekki and Ikoyi axis live?

Bariga, Oworo, Yaba and ajah down to ibeju
That's where they live

Lagosfinder:



Bariga, Oworo, Yaba and ajah down to ibeju
That's where they live

You have an idea of what a one room self contain cost in Bariga, Oworo, Yaba and ajah? Now factor in cost of transportation to and fro everyday. Meanwhile the average salary of these low income workers (drivers cooks, gardeners, nannies, etc) are between 20,000 to about N50, 000 per month, depending on if it is domestic job or office work.

Let me add, that each elite's household employ a fairly large number of low income domestic worker, like 2 gate men, 1 house boy/girl, at least 2 drivers (one for oga and one for the rest of the family), then sometimes gardener and cooks.
All these people need to like closely and might have families.

London was able solve the shanty problem by having a very effective transportation system. Most people sleeping on the streets are bums and not workers. Domestic workers can live 100 km away in a village and make it to work within 1 hour. Transportation costs are taken into consideration in the wages.
Besides, being a welfarist state, the government build many low cost housing estates or council flats for poor people, which are given out for almost free. The problem is the waiting period can be very long.

baby124:

Let their state governors grant those alternatives. What are they running from in their own states? So Lagos is a rubbish dump where everybody comes to set up dustbins

You are very very wicked!!

wirinet:

You have an idea of what a one room self contain cost in Bariga, Oworo, Yaba and ajah? Now factor in cost of transportation to and fro everyday. Meanwhile the average salary of these low income workers (drivers cooks, gardeners, nannies, etc) are between 20,000 to about N50, 000 per month, depending on if it is domestic job or office work.

Let me add, that each elite's household employ a fairly large number of low income domestic worker, like 2 gate men, 1 house boy/girl, at least 2 drivers (one for oga and one for the rest of the family), then sometimes gardener and cooks.
All these people need to like closely and might have families.

London was able solve the shanty problem by having a very effective transportation system. Most people sleeping on the streets are bums and not workers. Domestic workers can live 100 km away in a village and make it to work within 1 hour. Transportation costs are taken into consideration in the wages.

That's the unfortunate situation we find ourselves. the live-in ones are the lucky ones
Though there are shanties not touch which many are still staying

FlyoruB:


Hear talk. Ehn, they can all move to Ibadan where such things will be tolerated. Seyi will build homes and shops for them. But in the meantime, una go continue to call Ibadan 'the biggest slum in Africa', as many of you are fond of doing. Oshi.

trade places with them and come tell us this

Bonatheripper:
Chai... Just imagine how rough everywhere looks.

I curse what ever forces made me to be delivered in this zoo and stupid shithole called country

Be careful what u wish for.

Imagine if u were from Cameroon or Congo.

landforeast:

The only sensible comment here
Go to Angola and see
Government owns most of the Estates with a low cost estate that the poor can afford and pay for on a flexible payment plan. They just keep frustrating poor people in this country. Lagos is seriously facing a great housing deficit and the government are doing nothing about it. Go to under bridges or flyovers in Lagos and see the number of homeless people in Lagos.

Seriously let those people go back to there states now. At least they have houses there

gnykelly:


trade places with them and come tell us this

Go and move them to Ibadan na (or your state) where such will be accomodated, abi na by force for them to be constituting nuisance in Lagos? Lagos is not the only state in Nigeria oga. You can even house them sef if e pain you reach.

Haniel18:

Sorry to say but ur reply shows hw insensitive and myopic u are in ur thinking. U are d type dat complained abt those attacks in south Africa but unknown to u ur reply portrays d same tin. We are Nigerias for Christ sake and we should be free to live anywhere in d country in peace and harmony, do u knw hw many yorubas that live in the north, east and south living legally and illegally, trade and better standard of living makes people migrate to different zones for settlement.
If truly their stay there is causing havoc den d government should make an alternative to them.

Make which alternative... Mr man someone is occupying land illegally and you still want them to be compensated. There are a million places in Nigeria where they can set up legally within the law.

It’s that easy to me, if you want to operate outside the law... then don’t cry fowl when the law catches up to you.

Also, most of those people could be Yoruba but from different states.

I am a human being so I can understand their displeasures, but on the other hand the LASG does not owe them Shiite, nada, squat... (whichever other word I can use for nothing you can add it inside).

baby124:

You are a big fool. I don’t blame you, you are not proud of where you come from that is why you can not stay there. Hungry church rat.

na dey hunger wey don stricken the life out of that saggy flesh of yours has beclouded dey tiny sense of sourcing of awoof MB n dey kpalasa phone wey make u feel say you belong.Taaaaa commot for road Ayee

codemaniacs:


you're saying lagos is over hyped and smelly, yet you don't want them to evict the people making it smelly and unkempt...

baby124 is right.

People making it overhyped and smelly includes you and baby124. Do thyself a favour; take a break from the shit-hole. Emancipate, no, Evict yourselves!

wirinet:


The problem with us Africans is that we are very narrow minded and tend to look at issues from only our tunnel vision perspective.

I lived in V/I (bar beach towers) for 20 years and I lived in main Ikoyi for 8 years. So I have wider perspectives from both sides.

Yes, all you said is valid from the perspective of the elite, but what of the perspective of the low income workers or services provider struggling to survive. Basic human instinct is survival and would risk everything and defy all odds to get to where he feels his chances of survival are better. People still cross the Sahara desert and Mediterranean Sea, despite the chances of surviving the journey being very slim.

I am an architect and in one of my courses called urban planing, it clearly taught me that if you fail to plan for low income housing when planing your urban cities, shanties and squatter settlements will naturally develop. This problem is not unique to Nigeria or Africa. Even France and USA battle with squatter settlements issues. The rich elites often don't like seeing or associating with poor people, except for exploitation. The failure of the ruling elites to make provisions for the poor people always come back and hunt them.

I left V/I about 15 years ago and I hardly go there. I went to visit a friend at Muri Okunola last week and I was appalled by the state of the roads. The traffic was horrendous and the roads were terrible. Muri Okunola itself was impassable.

I am sorry to say, but with all the allocations going to Lagos and the high IGR, the infrastructures is nothing to write about in terms of maintenance. Yes, I know other states even fare worse than Lagos, it still does not exonerate Lagos State governments.

I am one of those that believes the pressure on Lagos is too much, hosting the 2 major sea ports in the country, hosting the most important international airport and now planing on hosting the biggest refinery in Africa and a free trade zone, in such a tiny state? We go soon dey climb on top each other.

Anyway the main problem of Lagos is urban planing. There seem to be non whatsoever by the various governments

Main problem is greed! The greed to have it all achieved in your state instead of decentralizing these infrastructure or projects. There are other places where these projects can be sited in this country but because of politics some region gets almost all the share.

The cake don't have to cry when flies perch on it. It attracted them in the first place. Spread the cake and get less flies on a spot.

But don't worry, nature has a way of correcting itself. When it becomes evident that a city has gotten to it's limits of supporting good life, humans just move in to another location.

Lagosfinder:


Bariga, Oworo, Yaba and ajah down to ibeju
That's where they live

there are as much wealthy settlers in Lekki and VI from "Ajah down to Ibeju".
you obviously don't know Lagos calling yourself Lagosfinder

the basics still remain that town planing is poor in the state or the Lateef Jakande plan is simply not followed and that will inevitably spring shanties and shantytowns even in Ikoyi.