sotall:

Where did you pick all these you wrote up there?

Any evidence?

Evidence is here

https://www.nairaland.com/2743974/tree-life-tree-knowledge-good

MrPresident1:


Evidence is here

https://www.nairaland.com/2743974/tree-life-tree-knowledge-good 

Everything you spew in that thread reeks of hallucinations.

Mehn! In the middle of reading it, I was like what da pheck! What did this homo sapien smoke before spewing all these shitts?

I will like to know


You are like that Pastor in a church I attended. He said Adam and Eve had sex out of season that's why God sent them out of Eden.

He said they were suppose to have sex at a particular time and not all the time.

I was like wow!

nlPoster:
Since Adam and Eve remained alive after God told them they would surely die if they ate the fruit (they actually lived longer than almost everybody after them), what exactly can we infer from the story? I would like people's opinions.

God lied!

(Or the record in the Bible is corrupted.)

sotall:


Everything you spew in that thread reeks of hallucinations.

Mehn! In the middle of reading it, I was like what da pheck! What did this homo sapien smoke before spewing all these shitts?

I will like to know


You are like that Pastor in a church I attended. He said Adam and Eve had sex out of season that's why God sent them out of Eden.

He said they were suppose to have sex at a particular time and not all the time.

I was like wow!

Thank you for letting me know. I expected to react the same way so never bothered.

He should pay a better dealer and stop smoking cheap dodgy weed!

The Adam and Eve story is fake.

For instance, humanity begins South of the Sahara and not in the middle of nowhere in a fictitious garden.

Humanity begins in Africa and then our ancestors went on to populate the other continents.

The Adam and Eve story is fake and is a misogynistic allegory that was invented by the authors of Abrahamic religious text.

nlPoster:
Bible verses to check?

Bible verses to check specifically what? What exactly do you want to bible verses to check?

nlPoster:
Everyone's analysis is interesting even if they sound like fictional versions of events.

I can only speak for MuttleyLaff and not everyone else. The explanation(s) that MuttleyLaff, so far had advanced, are counter-intuitive, and this is the reason why you nlPoster, seem to be turning your nose up at it, lol.

nlPoster:
Since Adam and Eve remained alive after God told them they would surely die if they ate the fruit (they actually lived longer than almost everybody after them), what exactly can we infer from the story? I would like people's opinions

MuttleyLaff:
OK, here's the thing, the "surely" first keyword, is all about guaranteeing something. It is God, with a strong sense of certainty, lol, giving His word about/over something, while the "die" second keyword, is the something, it's what being guaranteed that will happen if/when the fruit of the TKGE is taken to eat.

Yes, in the original Hebrew text, where and/or when God said, "... thou shall surely die", The "surely die" comment, has the meaning, translated as "slow death", lol, and the meaning, conveys, a sense and reality of gradually ceasing to be, lol. It is, as it were, merely stating emphatically and/or publicly, that A&E , the moment after eating, will have a fading and/or die away existence, lol.

Now, true to God's words, the thing He particularly warned Adam about, happened when A&E ate the fruit, though spiritual death, first instantly happened. Oh, for the benefit of nlPoster and others interested, spiritual death, simply means, the departure of man’s spirit from his body, leading to a separation of man and God (i.e. man no longer having "unmetered" contact with God). I digress, back on track, true to God's promise, man did die. He died spiritually death first and physical death, is the end of the "slow death" Adam was told of. After A&E's spiritual death, the process of decline and deterioration kicked in. Everything, over time, will begin going down and/or looking south. At the end of the decline, deterioration, body organ failings, aging etcetera, lol comes and so, we have, an awaiting physical death.

Yep, it surely, as God warned and guaranteed, from spiritual death to physical death, is a slow death, indeed for man, lol. It was a slow, 930 years long, before Adam died, lol. The slow tick, tock, tick, tock, mortality clock came alive and started to tick tock tick tock from after the lunge at the fruit and subsequent eating of it. Thou shalt surely die, essentially is what man truly is putting into practice. Man, the second he is born, is dying. Is having a slow death, just as warned and/or promised will certainly happened, lol

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I did a double take, at your "since Adam and Eve remained alive after God told them they would surely die if they ate the fruit (they actually lived longer than almost everybody after them)," comment then had a boisterous smh A&E laugh at your expense, lol.

Smh, nlPoster, do you know that, the second you are born, you start already dying, erhn, lol?

nlPoster forget for a moment, wanting people's opinion, hmm? Why not let's discuss and/or share facts, erhn, lol?
1/ Do you know that about 300 million cells, die every minute in our bodies, lol?!
2/ nlPoster, do you know that, by the time you finish reading this sentence, 50 million of your cells will have died, lol, hmm?
3/ Why do cells die, lol?
4/ Please mention, one by one, a number of things, you understand is/are associated with death.
5/ Do you agree and/or accept that human beings from the moment he/she is born, starts the "surely die" process (i.e. slowly dying), lol?

nlPoster, this needs a moment of mastication, as in meaning to grind, crush and chew it up, so let's leave it ,at these five questions, for now, lol

PS: nlPoster, the reason why A&E along with others lived so long, as in meaning, actually lived longer than almost everybody after them, was because after A&E opening the "Pandora box", the full force of diseases etcetera, that causes death, werent felt, as it, of course, took some time for such things as that, to emerge and then increase, so this explains the reason for the longevity of Adam and Eve (i.e. A&E) Another crucial point and observation, is the climatic condition. It was favourable during A&E's time but declined after the flood, hence the reason for the shorter life spans during and/or after Noah's period.

budaatum:
God lied!
(Or the record in the Bible is corrupted.)

Neither. Not either God lied or that the record in the Bible is corrupted.

God, in fact, lol, was spot on the money, lol. God was exactly correct and very accurate when He said A&E will "surely die". We all are dying slowly. We are living a fading and/or die away existence, lol. We are gradually coming to an end, lol. In a slow and gradual way, we are achieving the definite result prophesied by God, lol

MuttleyLaff:


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I did a double take, at your "since Adam and Eve remained alive after God told them they would surely die[/b] if they ate the fruit (they actually lived longer than almost everybody after them)," comment then had a boisterous smh A&E laugh at your expense, lol. Smh, do you know that the second I was born, I start already dying, lol.

nlPoster forget for a moment, wanting people's opinion, hmm? Why not let's discuss and/or share facts, erhn, lol?
1/ Do you know that about 300 million cells, die every minute in my body, lol?!
2/ nlPoster, do you know that, by the time I finish reading this sentence, 50 million of my cells will have died, lol, hmm?
3/ Why do cells die, lol?
4/ Please mention, one by one, a number of things, I understand is/are associated with death.
5/ Do I agree and/or accept that human beings from the moment he/she is born, starts the "surely die" process (i.e. slowly dying), lol?

nlPoster, this needs a moment of mastication, as in meaning to grind, crush and chew it up, so let's leave it ,at these five questions, for now, lol

PS: nlPoster, the reason why A&E along with others lived so long, as in meaning, actually lived longer than almost everybody after them, was because after A&E opening the "Pandora box", the full force of diseases etcetera, that causes death, werent felt, as it, of course, took some time for such things as that, to emerge and then increase, so this explains the reason for the longevity of Adam and Eve (i.e. A&E) Another crucial point and observation, is the climatic condition. It was favourable during A&E's time but declined after the flood, hence the reason for the shorter life spans during and/or after Noah's period.

Neither. Not either God lied or that the record in the Bible is corrupted.

God, in fact, lol, was spot on the money, lol. God was exactly correct and very accurate when He said A&E will "surely die". We all are dying slowly. We are living a fading and/or die away existence, lol. We are gradually coming to an end, lol. In a slow and gradual way, we are achieving the definite result prophesied by God, lol

Open a thread to discuss your obsession with death and dying. Seems you have something on your mind, perhaps people can help you with therapeutical contributions.

You appear very tense and anxious, agitated, restless, jittery, worked up.

nlPoster:
Open a thread to discuss your obsession with death and dying. Seems you have something on your mind, perhaps people can help you with therapeutical contributions.

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I expected more of you than this pathetic and/or not at all right comment. Smh.

nlPoster:
You seem very tense and anxious.

""Give not that which is holy to the dogs,
nor throw your pearls to the swine;
otherwise they will trample them under their feet
and then turn and attack you."
- Matthew 7:6

You've been gagging for bible verses to check, right? Well, try that Matthew 7:6 above for size then and there are plenty more from where that came

MuttleyLaff:

The time would have been after the duration of the test.

The time A&E ate the fruit, was the last hour. Had it been they restrained themselves in the last remaining hour left, they would have successfully sailed through and be given the green light to go ahead and start eat the fruit without incurring any bad effects.

MuttleyLaff:
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I expected more of you than this pathetic and/or not at all right comment. Smh.

""Give not that which is holy to the dogs,
nor throw your pearls to the swine;
otherwise they will trample them under their feet
and then turn and attack you."
- Matthew 7:6

You've been gagging for bible verses to check, right? Well, try that Matthew 7:6 above for size then and there are plenty more from where that came

Try not to be insultive, I dont know what your grouse is but you shouldn't take out your frustrations on me.

I dont know you and you are spoiling the thread for everybody.

Could you have some self control? It's not mandatory you post.

MuttleyLaff:
The time would have been after the duration of the test.

The time A&E ate the fruit, was the last hour. Had it been they restrained themselves in the last remaining hour left, they would have successfully sailed through and be given the green light to go ahead and start eat the fruit without incurring any bad effects.

No one is judging anyone here, we are merely jaw-jawing with each other.

budaatum:

Yes budaatum, what's the matter with the head-scratching, lol? I know, and its all because the whole thing is counter-intuitive.

OK, here's a quick and snappy breakdown of what went down. The events in Genesis 1:24-27, expatiated upon from Genesis 2:4 up on to Genesis 3:24, all happened in a normal 24-hour period. A&E almost successfully held it together but they caved in at the last hurdle (i.e. the last hour) I already can guess what your objection possibly will be, to this.

nlPoster:
Try not to be insultive,

"Ai tete mu ole, ole nmu oloko" loosely translated means "Look at the armed robber, pulling a fast one calling the burgled home owner the burgling thief"

Listen, I give as good as I get. I will treat you with the same insolence, contempt, bad manners, rude and disrespectful behaviour, you mete out to me and possibly more.

nlPoster:
I dont know what your grouse is but you shouldn't take out your frustrations on me.

I dont know who sent you on errand anyway to find out about grouses. Please dont take out your frustrations on me because there arent any grouses, in the first plate to find. Nobi by force, to make prick rise nau. Shove my served up dish aside, if the meat is too strong for your teeth to cut and/or if not to your taste/liking

nlPoster:
I dont know you and you are spoiling the thread for everybody.

I dont give a toss about you either. It's actually you spoiling the thread for everybody because of your lack of depth, inadequacies and/or inferiority complex issues bothering you

nlPoster:
Could you have some self control? It's not mandatory you post.

So now you want to be giving orders around here. Right? Smh. Is it your forum, that you'll be saying to anyone that it isnt mandatory to post, hmm? I guess you want to pass a senate bill next, for that, huh?

MuttleyLaff:


Yes budaatum, what's the matter with the head-scratching, lol? I know, and its all because the whole thing is counter-intuitive.

I been wondering if "counter-intuitive" means, 'one can't use one's brain', or, "makes no sense".

Where did you get "duration of the test" from?

MuttleyLaff:
Yes budaatum, what's the matter with the head-scratching, lol? I know, and its all because the whole thing is counter-intuitive.

OK, here's a quick and snappy breakdown of what went down. The events in Genesis 1:24-27, expatiated upon from Genesis 2:4 up on to Genesis 3:24, all happened in a normal 24-hour period. A&E almost successfully held it together but they caved in at the last hurdle (i.e. the last hour)

I already can guess what your objection possibly will be, to this.

budaatum:
I been wondering if "counter-intuitive" means, 'one can't use one's brain', or, "makes no sense".

No, "counter-intuitive" doesnt mean any of what you typed in your comment. "Counter-intuitive" means, something not easily understood in an intuitive, instinctive and/or natural way, all because the ability to understand or explain the something, runs counter to what gut-feeling, intuition or common-sense normally would lead one to know and/or expect.

budaatum:
Where did you get "duration of the test" from?

"Moses answered the people,
"Don't be afraid! God has come only to test you,
so that you will be in awe of Him and won't sin."
- Exodus 20:20

"Remember the whole way by which he has brought you these forty years
through the desert so that he might, by humbling you,
test you to see if you have it within you to keep his commandments or not."
- Deuteronomy 8:2

"By faith Abraham, when God tested him, offered Isaac as a sacrifice.
He who had embraced the promises was about to sacrifice his one and only son,"
- Hebrews 11:17

"Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial because,
having stood the test, that person will receive the crown of life
that the Lord has promised to those who love him"
- James 1:12

"You have tested my thoughts and examined my heart in the night.
You have scrutinized me and found nothing wrong.
I am determined not to sin in what I say."
- Psalm 17:3

"You have tested us, O God. You have refined us in the same way silver is refined.
(i.e. You have put us to the test, God; as silver is purified by fire, so you have tested us)"
- Psalm 66:10

Sampled bible verses, like as with the few ones above, taken as proof, shows that God, does carry out tests, even gives tests, so as to purify, lol, and it goes without saying, that testing the performance, qualities or suitability of someone or something has, how long the test will last. All tests have durations budaatum lol, meaning they arent done in perpetuity, as in, they dont go on for an unlimited or unspecified period of time. So, yeah budaatum, A&E were given a period of time test, and just as like with Satan, they learned from the test, about the evil that was found in them.

Cycling back to your "where did you get "duration of the test" from?" question, well that was got, from out of a few verses in the bible budaatum.

budaatum, before you opened up this thread to read it, where did your eye first go? To the heading, right? Yeah, that's right, after the heading, you then read the post and searched its fine print to find more details on the titled heading, lol, didnt you? You looked under the bonnet, and as it were, searched in it. Well budaatum, same thing here too, I looked under the hood and in my searching in it, stumbled on "duration of the test" and so answering your question again, I got "duration of the test" from out of a few verses in the bible, lol.

The Adam & Eve story is fake.

Humanity begins South of the Sahara and not in a fictitious garden.

Fun fact

Lilith was Adam's first wife.