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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 6:16pm On Jan 09, 2020
360command:
I get what you mean but the fact is you are still a nigga to the white Americans. Dont think your accent saves you.. Your face still looks like them. The bank you talked about, a Nigerian doctor went to a bank to withdraw money, the white lady refused to pay him because he had lots of money. She called the police on the Nigerian doctor.. You see, that white lady saw him as a nigga whether you from Africa or Caribbean, you still a nigga. So dont feel so fly as you were treated positively in the bank. These white are FOREVER evil. I rather fuvck with a black American than the white.
I mean my real Lagos accent not Akata accent. I was even still a JJC. Not all white folks are nice I admit, but some are. Like the ones in my class some of them were still feeling superior, me I didn't even send them been the only black folk, until later on they started greeting me and giving me fake or genuine smiles.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 6:17pm On Jan 09, 2020
charliboy654:

Is the same thing in SA, I was chatting with a SA, she told me she's 21 with 3 kids, like it's a normal thing, I just kept my cool but deep down I was shocked
38years for here don get grand children sef.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by morpheus24: 6:17pm On Jan 09, 2020
1Sharon:


I don't need to go to know history.

Are you Liberian?

Doesn't the same thing happen in Nigeria? Arent ppl that try to shake things up accused of being self-hating and thinking they're better?
Africans are too insecure. Yet they want change.

Yes AAs too are self-destructive, but they're thinking is slightly better than Africans in the liberia situation.

The bolded simply shows how ignorant of what you know about the Liberian situation and the Americo-Liberians.

These individuals came in and isolated themselves from the other tribes around them because of there aristocratic attitude inherited from their former masters while in captivity. They exported this exploitative behavior and regarded the natives as heathens while they were uppty blacks who were here to show the natives the way.

They exploited the resources and used the natives as cheap labor, excluding them from politics and marginalized them from all political activity which caused the first coup that caused assasinations and blood shed in Liberia.

Charles taylor who is an Americo Liberian by descent is an example of the descendants of these AA's who continued to exploit the long standing exploitative relationship with the US and the Americo's to distablize that country. The official report was that he escaped from an American prison when in reality he was deployed by the CIA back to Africa as an ally to destabilize the country before he switched to Ghadaffi for arms and training to stage a revolt.

Please know your history before coming here and embarrassing yourself.

Liberia is a glaring example of how AA's pretty much messed up an entire opportunity to show what they were made of and you can't wipe that history away.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 6:18pm On Jan 09, 2020
Daisy17:


I bet you don't realize that Nigerians are very loud and can appear to be violent to people who don't know them, especially to people who can't understand them. Trust me when you guys have heated conversations, it is very uncomfortable to onlookers. So Nigerians can be considered aggressive too.
I don't even go close to them, I try as much as possible not to cross there path.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 6:20pm On Jan 09, 2020
Mr code keeps writing about manufacturing hub. Is China not a producing nation? They also have manufacturing hubs too, especially Africa which is their main market target due to under development of the continent. USA thrives through siphonings and launderings, not only because of the hubs. The hubs are means of spying, invasion, controlling, siphoning and laundering (if you know, you know). Reason, they frown at Buhari for clamping down on their fraudulent foreign banks and investments (like halifax bank and other banks, oil companies, etc) in Nigeria meant for illicit financial flows. Same thing China was and is still doing. What AA's and African need to do is to put hands and work together. We can invent better and build together, for knowledge and wisdom has no end.


1Sharon:


So they didn't leave any infrastructure?
And teach how to maintain them?

Africans clearly have other priorities abeg.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 6:27pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 6:30pm On Jan 09, 2020
Daisy17:


What about your African men with children from different mothers? Is it because you guys try to hide all your bad behaviour? We are quick to point out the shortcomings of another group of people while forgetting what is happening in our backyard.
I'm not quick to judge , I'm only trying to weigh the difference. Nine out of ten AA men and women has kids out of wedlock. you hardly see these from the white ppl. Back to our African culture ,They're few with the exception of my forefathers. Don't use celeb life style to judge other Nigeria men.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 360command: 6:31pm On Jan 09, 2020
PAQ:


Bros, you dont see them in other prisons because..... WHERE THEM DEY GO? Apart from America, where do they visit? .
common, dont bring this up. Are you the only ones that travel? Must it be that because we travel more, we should land ourself in prison. I know you do know that we as Nigerians are more in foreign prisons than any other nationality..

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 6:32pm On Jan 09, 2020
morpheus24:


The bolded simply shows how ignorant of what you know about the Liberian situation and the Americo-Liberians.

These individuals came in and isolated themselves from the other tribes around them because of there aristocratic attitude inherited from their former masters while in captivity. They exported this exploitative behavior and regarded the natives as heathens while they were uppty blacks who were here to show the natives the way.

They exploited the resources and used the natives as cheap labor, excluding them from politics and marginalized them from all political activity which caused the first coup that caused assasinations and blood shed in Liberia.

Charles taylor who is an Americo Liberian by descent is an example of the descendants of these AA's who continued to exploit the long standing exploitative relationship with the US and the Americo's to distablize that country. The official report was that he escaped from an American prison when in reality he was deployed by the CIA back to Africa as an ally to destabilize the country before he switched to Ghadaffi for arms and training to stage a revolt.

Please know your history before coming here and embarrassing yourself.

Liberia is a glaring example of how AA's pretty much messed up an entire opportunity to show what they were made of and you can't wipe that history away.

You're still on this forum? shocked

Anyway, this is what I'm saying. Clearly the african way is not working is it? Africans want change, but don't want to be exposed to different ways of doing things. How can things change?

I'm not saying the AAs are saints.

I don't buy into your conspiracy on westerners trying to destabilize Africa.

It's just another way of finger-pointing. Sorry.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 360command: 6:37pm On Jan 09, 2020
sisipelebe:
I don't even go close to them, I try as much as possible not to cross there path.
you dont go close to AA , you dont go close to Africans. I can tell you a house nigga
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Nobody: 6:42pm On Jan 09, 2020
Brother, we both aware that many AA's and Africans are now technological inventors. Our main problem is the inferiority due to powerless self dependency as black race. Learn from China.


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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by delishpot: 6:49pm On Jan 09, 2020
Most African Americans don't take opportunity to grow, they also hate to see each other grow. I was surprised to see how they view life. Maybe it societal engineering putting them down or its they that have decided not to play the game of life on a higher level than the whites are playing with them.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 6:56pm On Jan 09, 2020
dochenaj:
Never read I a well and truthfully crafted article as this in a long while.

I have always found it disconcerting that a significant number of African - American children are raised by single mothers who have to work multiple jobs to provide for their children because the father's are not taking responsibility.

That further widens the generational decline in morals, values, and discipline.

Many of them do that mess for money. They get government assistance
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Ghostmode2two(m): 7:02pm On Jan 09, 2020
So why are the African-Americans tracing their their roots to Africa?

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Innovate07: 7:04pm On Jan 09, 2020
Geminita1:
African americans have this irritating way they speak like they are angry. Very fast and forceful in speech. Huge turn off.

The women are masculine, while the men are feminine. They are a big dent to our image as black people. I wish they can go into extinction.

If you were white, I would have called you a racist. Since you are black, your problem is self hate. Imagine you, wishing this for your fellow human being, your own race of people for that matter.

Who trained people that reason like you? Very ignorant about racism and the world system. Ignorant people truly are very dangerous to the people around them.
You're a dent on the black race as a whole and a walking danger in our midst with your mindset.
Tufiakwa!

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by vaca1: 7:06pm On Jan 09, 2020
nlPoster:


That's incorrect.

We should learn to disagree without feeling offended.

The first part is correct- namely, Africans generally prefer mingling with other Africans

The second part is not 100% correct- since Africans do live in predominantly AA neighborhoods
It is correct.
I have brothers and friends over there. They prefer the the whites and they said the AAs are too toxic for their liking. They are too vulgar. Even the gentle one has that trace of ruggedity in them

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by DexterousOne(m): 7:07pm On Jan 09, 2020
morpheus24:


The bolded simply shows how ignorant of what you know about the Liberian situation and the Americo-Liberians.

These individuals came in and isolated themselves from the other tribes around them because of there aristocratic attitude inherited from their former masters while in captivity. They exported this exploitative behavior and regarded the natives as heathens while they were uppty blacks who were here to show the natives the way.

They exploited the resources and used the natives as cheap labor, excluding them from politics and marginalized them from all political activity which caused the first coup that caused assasinations and blood shed in Liberia.

Charles taylor who is an Americo Liberian by descent is an example of the descendants of these AA's who continued to exploit the long standing exploitative relationship with the US and the Americo's to distablize that country. The official report was that he escaped from an American prison when in reality he was deployed by the CIA back to Africa as an ally to destabilize the country before he switched to Ghadaffi for arms and training to stage a revolt.

Please know your history before coming here and embarrassing yourself.

Liberia is a glaring example of how AA's pretty much messed up an entire opportunity to show what they were made of and you can't wipe that history away.

Please tell her

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by caye(m): 7:11pm On Jan 09, 2020
NOW, I THINK I NEED TO ADD MY OWN AND POINT OUT ERRORS IN SOME CONTRIBUTIONS TO THESE DISCUSSIONS
the real tragedy of Africa (which we must turn around positively) is the refusal of the African to learn from his true history.
'only a fool allows his enemies to teach his children- Malcolm 'Omowale El-Hajj Shabazz' X'


Imagine this scenario:
You were a little girl (ages 4-5) kidnapped by people from other languages and culture but with same skin, during war (with your parents killed); that the welcoming beginnings of a traumatic and hellish existence. After, you were sold into stinking slave ships to people with different skins , culture and languages. Some of your peers died (70-80%),while the women among you were routinely raped, to satisfy these foreigners.
On getting to their land, you were sold like cattle, demeaned and told you now were a property of humans like you. You lost your language, culture and religion; in fact to make their point known, these foreigners killed some of your fellow prisoners-colleagues through swords, machetes or being eaten alive by beasts. You were forced to work extremely long hours from 4:30 in the morning to 11:00 pm at night. At age 10-13, there were often routine rape by the master, his friends and the poor overseers who belong to the masters race: anal sex, forced sex, beatings, ...just let your imaginations run wild. Also, men from your race were encouraged to sleep (rape) you as a very young teenager, in order to increase the slave population. Many of your friends died during child-birth, but you were 'lucky' - your child survived. However, your child would have been better off dead. Why? He was sold at age 5 to other strangers who turned him to a beast of burden. His childhood was effectively destroyed. Equally, laws were made to prevent you from reading (learning the truth in books; so you were always illiterate).

Those laws became institutions you and your generations fought till death. Your latter generations (who had little access to Father figures who were systematically [as in deliberately] denied employment, land or dignifying labour and usually sent to jail compared to people from other races or the enslaver's race) were undisciplined due to their spirits being 'almost eternally 'broken by seeing their Mothers being lesser than animals. Your enemies then proceeded to destroy you through covert means : disease warfare, psychological brain washing using religion, music (glorifying unbridled sex ,drugs and violence AGAINST YOUR OWN PEOPLE).

Tell me, why should such person not be eternally angry, vengeful and a psychological wreck within the committee of nations? Why would such person trust people from his continent who betrayed him? Why should such person see the dignity of suffering now to enjoy later, when he/ she has seen the parents (usually single Mothers)g to show for it? Why should such person love the descendant of her enemies , who enslaved, raped and destroyed her psychologically? I just summed up 500 years of enslavement, Jim Crow, CIA drug flooding and psychological warfare by European media on the African-American.

The chief problem of a lot of Nigerians is : they are half-baked 'ignorants', who think they know what suffering means but clearly have no idea; because they don't read for the sake of knowledge
How many of you have read the following books:
1. Destruction of black civilisation
2.The Autobiography of Malcolm X
3. Olaudah Equiano
4. Diary of an economic hitman
5. (a paraphrase) Memoirs of ***Shaw (Lord Lugard's girlfriend)

I was appalled when I read many ignorant comments here. Some one called codedmaniacs saying : the transatlantic and transaharan slave trade never happened. Who told you that?
I am hoever not surprised. A lot of 'foreign alphabet' agents pretending to be black/ Africans/ Afro-Americans are here on nairaland.com, in order to brainwash Africans. Make no mistake: the psychological brain washing has moved from the TV (using CNN, MTV and other western consumables) to the internet.

For the genuine seekers of knowledge, 3 main negative spiritual energies holding the African continent from progress:
1. [the old ]Human sacrifices
2. Slavery
3. Human rituals

Unless we apologise to God Almighty, and our Afro-American and Afro-Carribeans brothers, we will end up 1000 years behind all other races. The Afro- American deserves an apology for what some foolish African Kings and nobles did to their brothers and sisters (not all of them though). Take as an example: Efunsetan Aniwura who had a lot of slaves in Ibadan and sold them to foreigners, names in Yoruba land like Ologun-eeru (the man with 20/ miriad slaves) and the wars of plunder between the Oyo empire and Dahomey. Lets not even talk about the Akan who institutionalised slavery within their Kingdom in Ghana.
Coming to the 21st century: the plunder of Africa by Africans, selling their fellowmen and stashing their ill-gotten wealth in Switzerland, UK, Belize, Dubai, USA e.t.c, while leaving their continent with broken infrastructure, murderous un-CIVIL wars (the Congo world war from 1950s to present and the resource war in Liberia, Sierra leone and NW Nigeria), massacres, hunger and the latest- terrorism (a covert means of 21st century Arab, Turkish and French (?)) re-colonisations.

Are we Africans ready to be taken seriously by other races, or should we become extinct and extinguished like a match-flame in front of a tornado?. I really pity us, if we all continue in our glorified ignorance.
I drop my pen.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by morpheus24: 7:18pm On Jan 09, 2020
1Sharon:




I don't buy into your conspiracy on westerners trying to destabilize Africa.

.

The whole agenda of the west is to keep Africa destabilized so that they can come in exploit, has always been that way, will always be that way.

This is fact and is no where close to conspiracy.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by salford: 7:19pm On Jan 09, 2020
delishpot:
Most African Americans don't take opportunity to grow, they also hate to see each other grow. I was surprised to see how they view life. Maybe it societal engineering putting them down or its they that have decided not to play the game of life on a higher level than the whites are playing with them.
Is this not a description of Black people behavior irrespective of wherever they come from.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 7:23pm On Jan 09, 2020
morpheus24:


The whole agenda of the west is to keep Africa destabilized so that they can come in exploit, has always been that way, will always be that way.

This is fact and is no where close to conspiracy.


Oh God. Pls don't give me this, you're better than this.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by 1Sharon(f): 7:27pm On Jan 09, 2020
vaca1:

It is correct.
I have brothers and friends over there. They prefer the the whites and they said the AAs are too toxic for their liking. They are too vulgar. Even the gentle one has that trace of ruggedity in them

undecided
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by benji93: 7:41pm On Jan 09, 2020
I probably agree with your submission, but for some to a lesser degree. Ghanaians are increasingly becoming corrupt themselves. I grew up in Ghana, so i am sure of that. Indulgence in fraudulent activities is also on the rise. Very disturbing. I guess Nigeria kept knocking at the door grin. For the drugs issue, I will give you that one. It's no where near as rampant. However, I think Ghana was on pace to rivaling Nigeria's notoriety, until it was cut short by the revolution(coup) led by Rawlings. Looking back, I think our complaint on "jealousy" on the part of Ghanaians is overstated. You cannot go to someone's house and suddenly turn on your "aggressive mode" which could come off as bossy. Ghanaians generally have a calmer demeanour, so what do we expect them to Do? Look on and say "go on sir" ?
salford:

Ghanaians possess the same positive traits. They can match Nigerians in terms of anything you can think off except they hardly do drugs, scamming and are less corrupt. Now why should other Africans emulate Nigerians when Ghanaians are of better behavior
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by morpheus24: 7:48pm On Jan 09, 2020
1Sharon:



Oh God. Pls don't give me this, you're better than this.


Please explain why you thing this is a conspiracy theory. I am not saying all Africa's problems emanate because of the West, I am saying the west has no advantage in allowing African countries progress at an accelerated rate much like China did.

The Chinese isolated themselves during Mao's revolution, preventing the West from contaminating or heavily influencing their trajectory. The Chinese went through hell but they did it without the interventions of the West and they are the better for it. Africa on the other hand continues to be baby sat by the West.

Sorry if you don't understand this but it is a reality, from the IMF to WARs to the use of the Franc to neo colonization to the purported establishment of Africom to deliberate influence in democratic process to sponsorships of coups etc etc etc.

Pick your poison.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by benji93: 8:04pm On Jan 09, 2020
I say this with a heavy heart. But the emergence of any developing country into even a border-line developed country would be a very difficult task today. As humans have advanced in their systems, so has the holistic effort required to find working solutions to problems. The Singaporeans, Malaysians e.t.c have to thank their stars, they could take that step earlier.

morpheus24:


Please explain why you thing this is a conspiracy theory. I am not saying all Africa's problems emanate because of the West, I am saying the west has no advantage in allowing African countries progress at an accelerated rate much like China did.

The Chinese isolated themselves during Mao's revolution, preventing the West from contaminating or heavily influencing their trajectory. The Chinese went through hell but they did it without the interventions of the West and they are the better for it. Africa on the other hand continues to be baby sat by the West.

Sorry if you don't understand this but it is a reality, from the IMF to WARs to the use of the Franc to neo colonization to the purported establishment of Africom to deliberate influence in democratic process to sponsorships of coups etc etc etc.

Pick your poison.

Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by codemaniacs: 8:06pm On Jan 09, 2020
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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Parkleader: 8:07pm On Jan 09, 2020
Stevecovey:

Its not just slavery. Segregation and jim crow only ended in the 60's. They couldnt go to proper school or get proper jobs or vote or sit in white restaurants. People dt experienced all dt are still alive & still tell those victim stories to their grandkids. Dt generation has to be completely gone for dt mentality to be gone totally. So it will take more time.
I think I get why they get angry with Africans. We demean their mental suffering when we just refer to slavery.
I agree with the rest of your analysis.

Nigerians are too dumb sometimes, AA attitude is not acceptable, but when you don't see their struggle too then don't expect them to like you anytime soon

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Villain7: 8:12pm On Jan 09, 2020
biggy26:

How much?
But the challenge with telecoms routers is that it zaps data more than the originals like smile....
Please, how does it zap data? I used regular ZTE Maxis, it's normal. It's 4G
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by Parkleader: 8:13pm On Jan 09, 2020
GogobiriLalas:
Institutionalized racism is a thing in America simplicita.

The white man has put in place a socio cultural and economic system to consolidate the ill gotten advantage it acquired and to ensure that the progeny of those whom he once enslaved never rise to a position where they're able to challenge or avenge the historical wrong that was done to them.

Irrespective of political isms, the traps are overt and covert and sometimes missed by foreigners especially African diaspora who are more excited about a perceived advantage they think they gain in their newly adopted country, however, the African American has learnt from experience to maintain a healthy dose of suspicion for anything white.

From slavery to KKK to Jim Crow, from Welfarism to Sangers' Planned Parenthood and from despicable race based horrific Government backed pseudo scientific experiments sans syphilis, tuberculosis and leprosy colonies to the so called war on drugs and other petty crimes that has enabled the white man to jail a quarter of the most virile and productive male members of the African American society, the African American has evolved to distrust anything the white man does and to respond with violence whenever the opportunity presents itself and I daresay rightly so, the white man's cowardice in the face of unbridled violence is beautiful to behold.

The African migrant as usual, is quick to point fingers at his cousin's violent propensities, his unwillingness to countenance anything white as having any good or merit; he forgets quite quickly that centuries of cohabitation with the white man has given the African American a unique insight into the nature of the white species of the human race.

The African American on the other hand, holds on to centuries old grudge in which he believes that the ancestors of his ignorant cousins sold his ancestors into slavery, he perceives in the African migrant an air of condescension which he believes stems from a feeling that 'my ancestors were superior to yours and were able to run faster from the white man'.

Thus a clash between the two becomes almost inevitable that the evil genius of the white man is quick to identify and exploit for his ultimate agenda I.e. the total subjugation of this subhuman species who dares aspire to personhood. The white man would rather elevate his dog than the black man - fact.

The conclusion is that the black race as usual has taken the easy path of hate and casting blames and aspersions; finding a reason to hate your neighbor is always easy, it is hard to find a reason to love and respect him.

Like the Joseph incidence in biblical lore (Joseph was sold into slavery by his jealous brethren), the migrant can learn so much from those who were there before him, whilst those who were there before have a great opportunity in the migrant to reconnect with what they once lost.

This is a great opportunity to consolidate our knowledge and experiences, take stock of what we did wrong and how easily we allowed other races to subjugate and enslave us and to forge a common path forward.

Thank God we have reasonable Nigerians too, but i don't support their lifestyle, but with time they are gradually moving pass that
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by kabukabu50(m): 8:27pm On Jan 09, 2020
African immigrants have much to learn from African Americans when you see what they have been through over the last 400 years..

They've had their language stripped from them, given white names, used as free labor to build every wealth for white merchants,told that Africa is a hell hole by the white media,sexualized by white culture and poisoned by drugs that are sold to mostly whites.

At a point after slavery was ended and thriving black communities were starting to emerge all over the US, jealous white supremacists organised riots and burned down their churches, grocery stores and schools because they hated seeing blacks making progress on their own.

Africans need to empathize with our brethren and support them.

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Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by nlPoster: 8:28pm On Jan 09, 2020
Innovate07:


. . .

Isnt this the name of the company handling Nigerian visa applications overseas?

Just wondering.
Re: The Rift Between African-Americans And Recent African Immigrants To The US by nlPoster: 8:30pm On Jan 09, 2020
vaca1:

It is correct.
I have brothers and friends over there. . . . they said the AAs are too toxic for their liking. They are too vulgar. Even the gentle one has that trace of ruggedity in them

Well, see another comment here:

360command:
you dont go close to AA , you dont go close to Africans. I can tell you a house nigga

Shows both AAs and Africans have their own problems.

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