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Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by BusolaDakolo: 1:55pm On Jan 10, 2020
MrsNwaAmaikpe:
shocked shocked

I am wondering why Allah couldn't save those 50 people that died in the stampede while mourning Quasem Soleimani



Because he's deceiving them grin
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Kokoebapluse(m): 2:07pm On Jan 10, 2020
Youngjohnosas:
HE submitted his life as a living sacrifice to redeem the whole world. He died just to show humility,patience and forgiveness.

imagine if we Christians were as brutal and merciless like your extremist religion the world wouldn't have existed till date. most times u guys run from Islamic nations to seek asylum in Christian nations all thanks to the death and resurrection of His only begotten son.


Are you saying that God kill his own son for himself? because all belong to God, can you see that Christian imagination is baseless? Again there many verse in Bible where Jesus cry and beg God to save him from death if truly Jesus wish to die what makes him cry to God to save him from death? All and all Jesus said if you don't forgive other people sin God will not forgive your sin too, if you like still claim unless blood and call it blood of Prophet Jesus still you will still enter hell fire because Jesus did not die or die for sin. That is why Jesus said many will call me on judgement day lord we do miracles in your name in your name we cast out demons and Jesus will say I don't know you I only know those who do will of God, don't die as a sheep, there is no way in Christianity no way, who tell you that Christianity have country? Pls Go to US and try making noise the way u use to do here in church I bet you they will jail you and close down your church, Christianity is a scam everybody have know and wise, soon there will be no more Christian
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Empiree: 3:23pm On Jan 10, 2020
There is nothing like abrogation in the Qur'an. Whoever believe this needs to reexamine their islamic education.

Theory of abrogation remains theory.

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Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by najib632(m): 3:32pm On Jan 10, 2020
ContractKiller:
What about the missing verses? grin
nothing is missing in the Qur'an.

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Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by ContractKiller: 4:14pm On Jan 10, 2020
Really?

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najib632:
nothing is missing in the Qur'an.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by najib632(m): 4:38pm On Jan 10, 2020
ContractKiller:
Really?

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Look I don't know what you take muslims for. Hadith is a science you can't just post a hadith without a chain of narration, narrator, the class and the classifier of the hadith.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Siralgebra04(m): 5:00pm On Jan 10, 2020
Youngjohnosas:
HE simply came to save some lost,ignorant,blood thirsty and head slamming fanatics.He does not discriminate Races and ethnic background, he died for peace to reign. if he hadn't died and resurrected I wouldn't have learnt the meaning of tolerance and forgiveness.

imagine if we had another terrorist religion like the Muslim religion this world would have ended.
U are mixing things up here. Who asked u question about terrorism? Why must ur acclaimed god die just to cleanse d sin of his people. Must a whole god die before his people could be redeemed?
This is a logical question, answer it logically. Don't be abstract.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by ClassicMG(m): 5:29pm On Jan 10, 2020
fatymore:
My birthday is next month.

I have concluded on the gift I am buying for myself.

A new Qur'an...

I can't wait to
nice gift
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Trump2020: 6:41pm On Jan 10, 2020
Kokoebapluse:



If Jesus is God and letter come on the earth, pls who is talking in this verse?
And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
Luke 3:22


My second question is why God have to die? Why Jesus don't want to die?
it's seems you have comprehension problem. Read the comment you quoted to get the answer to that stupid question
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Youngjohnosas: 6:51pm On Jan 10, 2020
Siralgebra04:

U don't seem to be intelligent. The fact remains dat ur acclaimed God died even if it was for 1 minute. The bone of contention now is dat 'Why should a God die for 3 days'?
In other for the scriptures to be fulfilled,the scriptures prophesied that he will die and rise up on the 3rd day for the sins of humanity to be forgiven., ur Muhammad died and never rose up that's why Islam is so blood thirsty,can u comfortably live in an Islamic country but u would rather seek asylum in a Christian state because the price of freedom has been paid on the cross of Calvary.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Youngjohnosas: 6:55pm On Jan 10, 2020
Siralgebra04:

U are mixing things up here. Who asked u question about terrorism? Why must ur acclaimed god die just to cleanse d sin of his people. Must a whole god die before his people could be redeemed?
This is a logical question, answer it logically. Don't be abstract.
He made himself a living sacrifice,the blood of animals couldn't open the way of salvation so he sent his only begotten son {a Worth and priceless sacrifice to expunge the sins of humanity }
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Youngjohnosas: 7:07pm On Jan 10, 2020
Kokoebapluse:



Are you saying that God kill his own son for himself? because all belong to God, can you see that Christian imagination is baseless? Again there many verse in Bible where Jesus cry and beg God to save him from death if truly Jesus wish to die what makes him cry to God to save him from death? All and all Jesus said if you don't forgive other people sin God will not forgive your sin too, if you like still claim unless blood and call it blood of Prophet Jesus still you will still enter hell fire because Jesus did not die or die for sin. That is why Jesus said many will call me on judgement day lord we do miracles in your name in your name we cast out demons and Jesus will say I don't know you I only know those who do will of God, don't die as a sheep, there is no way in Christianity no way, who tell you that Christianity have country? Pls Go to US and try making noise the way u use to do here in church I bet you they will jail you and close down your church, Christianity is a scam everybody have know and wise, soon there will be no more Christian
No more Christians? you think you guys are more brutal than the Christians hell no,But our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ has died, rose and carried our sins from us and instructed us to love our neighbors including those who hate and try to maim us.thats the reason we are calm.islam is a backward religion it's only ideology is to kill,and spill blood.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by najib632(m): 7:10pm On Jan 10, 2020
ContractKiller:
That's EXACTLY what I did...


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I laugh at you. You think Islam is a religion of ignorance and do as you like? You think fabrication of hadith started recently or what? Where is the chain of narration? Who classified the hadith? Jokes on you.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Siralgebra04(m): 7:48pm On Jan 10, 2020
Youngjohnosas:
He made himself a living sacrifice,the blood of animals couldn't open the way of salvation so he sent his only begotten son {a Worth and priceless sacrifice to expunge the sins of humanity }
Lol... U are still not logical enough. Almighty God is all-forgiving. He's capable of forgiving mankind without requesting for innocent blood. Pls say another thing.

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Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Siralgebra04(m): 7:50pm On Jan 10, 2020
Youngjohnosas:
In other for the scriptures to be fulfilled,the scriptures prophesied that he will die and rise up on the 3rd day for the sins of humanity to be forgiven., ur Muhammad died and never rose up that's why Islam is so blood thirsty,can u comfortably live in an Islamic country but u would rather seek asylum in a Christian state because the price of freedom has been paid on the cross of Calvary.
Lol... Can u see dat u are not intelligent. U are not logical enough. Almighty God is all-forgiving. He's capable of forgiving mankind without requesting for innocent blood. Pls say another thing.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Youngjohnosas: 7:59pm On Jan 10, 2020
Siralgebra04:

Lol... Can u see dat u are not intelligent. U are not logical enough. Almighty God is all-forgiving. He's capable of forgiving mankind without requesting for innocent blood. Pls say another thing.
U r so dumb to know that there is a price for Everything, just like your prophet asked you to wage war against non Muslims and kill them to have seven virgins in heaven. Muhammad won't have asked for jihad before giving the seven virgins to murderers he would have done that without conditions but no he asked u to shed the blood of other aherents.

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Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by ContractKiller: 9:01pm On Jan 10, 2020
I love how these people panic when their delusions are held up to them. In all the Hadith and Tafseer I quoted, I was careful to leave the name, number and narrator.

Keep on burying your head in the ground in a childish attempt to run away from the truth.

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najib632:
I laugh at you. You think Islam is a religion of ignorance and do as you like? You think fabrication of hadith started recently or what? Where is the chain of narration? Who classified the hadith? Jokes on you.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by ContractKiller: 9:03pm On Jan 10, 2020
But Allah is a confirmed olodo. In fact a lot of ex muslims I have spoken to, have all told me that it was Allah's ignorance that drove them away from Islam


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Siralgebra04:

Lol... Can u see dat u are not intelligent. U are not logical enough. Almighty God is all-forgiving. He's capable of forgiving mankind without requesting for innocent blood. Pls say another thing.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by najib632(m): 9:21pm On Jan 10, 2020
ContractKiller:
I love how these people panic when their delusions are held up to them. In all the Hadith and Tafseer I quoted, I was careful to leave the name, number and narrator.

Keep on burying your head in the ground in a childish attempt to run away from the truth.

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Hahahahahahahaha... Infidels are just too funny, you got the wrong muslim boy. Go and enjoy your religion of ignorance and do as you like.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by ContractKiller: 9:44pm On Jan 10, 2020
Laughter is the fools strategy at running away from the truth grin grin grin You haven't offered one single rebuttal or proved that your koran is complete. I don't blame you though, because even moohamad couldn't have performed better than you grin

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najib632:
Hahahahahahahaha... Infidels are just too funny, you got the wrong muslim boy. Go and enjoy your religion of ignorance and do as you like.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by Siralgebra04(m): 12:44am On Jan 11, 2020
ContractKiller:
But Allah is a confirmed olodo. In fact a lot of ex muslims I have spoken to, have all told me that it was Allah's ignorance that drove them away from Islam


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U lost d argument. This is what u resort to when u lost an argument.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by ContractKiller: 1:16am On Jan 11, 2020
Point of correction: The olodo who thinks that the sun can set in a pool of water is too stupid to be argued with grin


Siralgebra04:

U lost d argument. This is what u resort to when u lost an argument.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by foshe36: 8:42am On Jan 11, 2020
[quote author=ContractKiller post=85691035]Point of correction: The olodo who thinks that the sun can set in a pool of water is too stupid to be argued with grin


Contractkiller you don kill dem pa... You always say what's on my mind. You can see its very easy for them to quote Bible because everyone needs to know the truth and its written in all man's languages.

I'm waiting for another clad mind to talk.. We need to let them see their own errors.. There are so many verses of the Quran last(supposedly verses of Quran) to hatred war called jihad.

I don't believe in religion either, if you dive so deep in it you will be lost. Christ brought salvation I believe that, he's the son of God and he's by the side of God right now making supplications for us that ask God for anything through him, because he understands how fleshy body works because he has been in our shoe once before.

Jesus is Lord.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by ContractKiller: 8:51am On Jan 11, 2020
There's no hiding place for them anymore because they no longer have the monopoly of covering up their inadequate religion with lies.

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Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by justlikedat: 9:06am On Jan 11, 2020
............
Uthman's Qur'an

Uthman produced a standardized version of the Qur'an in 652. He sent a copy to each province, and ordered that all other Quranic materials "whether written in fragmentary manuscripts or whole copies," must be burned.[17]

It is said that Abdullah was displeased by the finished product; in particular:

That he accused Uthman's scribes of adding three extra suras (1, 113 and 114) that had never been part of the original, and of making many other small changes to the text.[18]
That he preached a sermon in Kufa in which he called Uthman's standardized Quran a "deceit". "And whoever deceives like this will bring his deceit on the Day of Resurrection … I like it better to read according to the recitation of him whom I love than that of Zayd ibn Thabit … If I knew anyone to be more conversant with Allah's Book than I am, I would surely go to him if camels could carry me there."[11]:444.......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abdullah_ibn_Masud
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by foshe36: 9:06am On Jan 11, 2020
ContractKiller:
There's no hiding place for them anymore because they no longer have the monopoly of covering up their inadequate religion with lies.

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Hahahahaha.... One of them keep asking for chain of narration.. What about the chain of lie they have tied you in.? Can't laugh jare.
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by justlikedat: 9:13am On Jan 11, 2020
Thought they said Allah sent quran from heaven ni. As if it was dropped from the sky to the earth. grin
Re: Abrogated Verses In The Holy Qur'an: Why Differences In Wording? by foshe36: 9:18am On Jan 11, 2020
justlikedat:
Thought they said Allah sent quran from heaven ni. As if it was dropped from the sky to the earth. grin
Me self they wonder how e take drop from sky.. Different from what me find out. grin grin lies upon lies.
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