toyetade:

You are not worth my time because you have complex already and you don't think with your brain. The vacations you go to is after you applied for your visa which may or may not be granted. My British passport can take me to 184 countries without any visa. Keep on doing your so called business of 419 and fraud, kidnapping and ritual killings. Tell me how the business will be after 10years. I have no more time for you. We are worlds apart.

Well this is one thing I really wished I had tho
The passport

I'm tired of applying for visas
It's annoying as hell

DexterousOne:


I do too

HaBi. , So they will come and say he is one of these people on the road.
I no lie. I dey do on the road dressing when I am off work and school, no mean say i Dey do their things . Indeed, appearance is deceitful. Then when they see me speaking English and sounding educated, they would be surprised

toyetade:

Yes London Buses are better than facing the risk of being kidnapped and used for Rituals or container falling on my head or spending 6 hours travelling from Airport to Banana Island . It gets worse everyday

you have a terrible mentality.... Folks are doing well here

DexterousOne:

If u are saying this
Then you have no idea of our predicament in Nigeria
You think those Chinese and Indians are just coming like that?
Man

I don't understand.

People say there's no job or opportunities, and I'm saying that young Nigerians, in Nigeria, are starting up businesses - some started during recession and have thrived in the Buhari era.

Packaging food (reelfoods, maiyaki's); farming (https://theculturetrip.com/africa/nigeria/articles/the-top-10-agricultural-start-ups-in-nigeria/); tech companies (paystack, hotels.ng, max.ng, paga); solar cold storage for agriculture (coldhubs.com); solar solutions (solynta, blue camel); waste management (wecyclers, pearl recyclers). These are the few that I personally aware of, and each employs 10+ people.

Are these enough? No way... we need many many more. But my point is: if these people just said "look at our predicament", they won't have started. After all there are no jobs.

Times are hard, for sure, but new businesses by young people are thriving. These are both facts. I'm encouraging people to see both sides.

But to answer your question: if there were no opportunities to make money, why would Chinese and Indians come? We're also seeing an influx of Nigerians from the diaspora starting up businesses here. It's hard to accept that "there's no opportunities" in the face of what I'm seeing.

dederocs:

What is your status in the British society?
If you are not one of the start up guys, or business men there exporting Nigeria, but just hustling and living the mundane 9/5, then shut up. A lot of Nigerians don't need to wake up and go to work by 9am, and still make much more than you. Am sure you are a 9/5iver trying to catch up with the British rat race, enjoy it and leave us in peace. I take vacations to UK, Dubai etc, but still love it here, and live here. stop sounding like a local man that just got an opportunity to travel out. Yes, I do business. All the top African business men and mega stars reside here, so it depends on what you do in Nigeria, I really don't envy you Nigerians working your ass out in the UK just to survive, no reasonable person will envy that life. It's just toiling.

You are right.... Naija folks dey suffer there

seunmsg:


The death sentence na “sakamanje”. Asylum seekers always come up with lies to deceive Oyinbos that terrible consequences await them at home if they are not granted asylum. Even Nnamdi Kalu that jumped bail won’t be killed if he steps into Nigeria not to talk of one unknown Sunny.

Really? So what was the military trying to do at his home leading to the turn of events today in a so called civilian regime? And you want to compare with what was obtainable during the evil military era? Don't even go there please.

toyetade:

Ignorant is your problem. You haven't been to other clime. Have you heard of flexible workings , working from home and all that stuff. With your so called business you cant enjoy all those and if you go on leave your business will fall.

How can your business fail when you go on vacation?
Please be reasonable.

nextstep:


I don't understand.

People say there's no job or opportunities, and I'm saying that young Nigerians, in Nigeria, are starting up businesses - some started during recession and have thrived in the Buhari era.

Packaging food (reelfoods, maiyaki's); farming (https://theculturetrip.com/africa/nigeria/articles/the-top-10-agricultural-start-ups-in-nigeria/); tech companies (paystack, hotels.ng, max.ng, paga); solar cold storage for agriculture (coldhubs.com); solar solutions (solynta, blue camel); waste management (wecyclers, pearl recyclers). These are the few that I personally aware of, and each employs 10+ people.

Are these enough? No way... we need many many more. But my point is: if these people just said "look at our predicament", they won't have started. After all there are no jobs.

Times are hard, for sure, but new businesses by young people are thriving. These are both facts. I'm encouraging people to see both sides.

But to answer your question: if there were no opportunities to make money, why would Chinese and Indians come? We're also seeing an influx of Nigerians from the diaspora starting up businesses here. It's hard to accept that "there's no opportunities" in the face of what I'm seeing.

No mind the uncreative job seekers, they always think everyone is like them, everything in life and every situation is relative, I know many of my guys dash them visa to relocate to do 9-5 in UK, they won't go. Travelling to other countries to slave your ass out is played out, y'all can't even spend what we spend here. Life is about levels, thanks for educating them a bit.

toyetade:

You are not worth my time because you have complex already and you don't think with your brain. The vacations you go to is after you applied for your visa which may or may not be granted. My British passport can take me to 184 countries without any visa. Keep on doing your so called business of 419 and fraud, kidnapping and ritual killings. Tell me how the business will be after 10years. I have no more time for you. We are worlds apart.

This is the stupid mentality so many of you dumb slave workers there have. Guy I can spend an hour to broker a deal here, and get 3million naira, I don't need to work in the cold nights, or stand as security guard for 6 hours straight

The percentage of Nigerians doing scam is less than 1% of our population...you sound unintelligent and myopic, do you know that the Nigerian market is 220,000,000 strong, this is the best place to be...but like I said you are trapped in the rat race, washing old folks backsides, doing menial jobs, enjoying the British sights and weather, stupid

toyetade:

Yes London Buses are better than facing the risk of being kidnapped and used for Rituals or container falling on my head or spending 6 hours travelling from Airport to Banana Island . It gets worse everyday

Keep washing toilets, and doing menial jobs then, living like a bloody second class,or is it third class cituzen

AmuDimpka:


You are right.... Naija folks dey suffer there

I know, I see them when I go there, such a unsavoury life they live there.

toyetade:

ignorance is a disease. Why did Buhari still prefer going to London ?. Why are all Nigeria Ministers go to London. The former minister of petroleum live in London after stealing all Nigeria Money

I see now, you are one of those ignorant mumus that escaped from the bush, I guess you can't even afford a ticket to come to Nigeria, slave.

toyetade:

We are not talking about nice flats at banana island we are talking about Nigeria environment generally moving about freely any time of the day without any problem, having access to great medical treatment, clean air not polluted with Noise or dust or smoke, Hot and temperate weather, lack of opportunity for self development, good environment for families, access to best universities in the world and eventually getting your American or British passport. Can you get all these in Banana island in Nigeria. Can you predict life in Nigeria in 10years time. It gets worse and worse

Nigeria is free, people move here day and night, people hold sold out shows at night and move freely, stop sounding like that Peckham cheap drugs is affecting your brain, talk sense.

tot:


I tell you. Mental resilience. Not everyone has it unfortunately.

This is a lazy guy that wasted his life away, it ain't worth it, how much life does he have left?

MOnkeyBabe:
Out where pls?

Wasting 21 years in UK is another option now.

toyetade:

We are not talking about nice flats at banana island we are talking about Nigeria environment generally moving about freely any time of the day without any problem, having access to great medical treatment, clean air not polluted with Noise or dust or smoke, Hot and temperate weather, lack of opportunity for self development, good environment for families, access to best universities in the world and eventually getting your American or British passport. Can you get all these in Banana island in Nigeria. Can you predict life in Nigeria in 10years time. It gets worse and worse

The two environments might not be comparable as at today but I can never waste a whole lot 21 years living on London streets and sleeping in the buses.
The knife attacks in London is very rampant

dederocs:

I know, I see them when I go there, such a unsavoury life they live there.

it is terrible ! I have seen a couple of them but shame wouldn't let them come home !

dederocs:

This is a lazy guy that wasted his life away, it ain't worth it, how much life does he have left?

Do you know that if you even dry akara or sell moi moi for consecutive 21 yrs in Lagos...trust me you would make it, marry build houses


Dude was a crazy ! I don't get it

dederocs:

Nigeria is free, people move here day and night, people hold sold out shows at night and move freely, stop sounding like that Peckham cheap drugs is affecting your brain, talk sense.

don't mind him...he should know that Nigeria people still go to clubs and go.to shows....

dederocs:

This is the stupid mentality so many of you dumb slave workers there have. Guy I can spend an hour to broker a deal here, and get 3million naira, I don't need to work in the cold nights, or stand as security guard for 6 hours straight

The percentage of Nigerians doing scam is less than 1% of our population...you sound unintelligent and myopic, do you know that the Nigerian market is 220,000,000 strong, this is the best place to be...but like I said you are trapped in the rat race, washing old folks backsides, doing menial jobs, enjoying the British sights and weather, stupid

easy on him....that was why Dbanj, Don Jazzy and Tiwa Savage left that madness in London....Bros London na hard place oooo who no go no go know....abi you want talk racism or peckham or Kent madness

Abeg fee those folks

nextstep:
People say: we are suffering. But the roads are clogged with cars. The clubs are clogged with merry makers. Estates are popping up all over the country. All kinds of phones are everywhere. People have enough money to post videos on social media. People are flying all over the country and in/out. Dubai is like Oshodi bus stop. All kinds of good movies are being made. New private universities are coming up (and people are paying).

I'm fully convinced that this poverty is of the mind. Yes there are people suffering, but there are so many more not suffering that I cannot accept that there are no opportunities.

Sometimes suffering is not all about lack of money. Running generetor to power ur house is suffering, staying stand still in a traffic for 2 hours is suffering, these two contributes largely to why life expectancy is low in Nigeria. To many suffering here even if you have billions.

AmuDimpka:
easy on him....that was why Dbanj, Don Jazzy and Tiwa Savage left that madness in London....Bros London na hard place oooo who no go no go know....abi you want talk racism or peckham or Kent madness

Abeg fee those folks

in Nigeria tribalism, LAGOS and onitsha madness. No where is a bed of roses but London is trillion times compared to Nigeria. Can someone survive in Nigeria for 21 yrs sleeping in a public transport? As a homeless fellow he still goes to the library to read books, do we have libraries in Nigeria? Now if he marry and get kids(British Citizens) the kids will enjoy that his "wasted 21 Yr". Is that not why we hustle? For our kids to have some sort of comfort.

maasoap:


The two environments might not be comparable as at today but I can never waste a whole lot 21 years living on London streets and sleeping in the buses.
The knife attacks in London is very rampant

He did it and it paid off. Maybe he "wasted 21 yrs" for his kids to have a bright future.

nextstep:


I don't understand.

People say there's no job or opportunities, and I'm saying that young Nigerians, in Nigeria, are starting up businesses - some started during recession and have thrived in the Buhari era.

Packaging food (reelfoods, maiyaki's); farming (https://theculturetrip.com/africa/nigeria/articles/the-top-10-agricultural-start-ups-in-nigeria/); tech companies (paystack, hotels.ng, max.ng, paga); solar cold storage for agriculture (coldhubs.com); solar solutions (solynta, blue camel); waste management (wecyclers, pearl recyclers). These are the few that I personally aware of, and each employs 10+ people.

Are these enough? No way... we need many many more. But my point is: if these people just said "look at our predicament", they won't have started. After all there are no jobs.

Times are hard, for sure, but new businesses by young people are thriving. These are both facts. I'm encouraging people to see both sides.

But to answer your question: if there were no opportunities to make money, why would Chinese and Indians come? We're also seeing an influx of Nigerians from the diaspora starting up businesses here. It's hard to accept that "there's no opportunities" in the face of what I'm seeing.

What I mean is that the indo Chinese moving in to Nigeria are not your regulars
They come in with capital (lots of it )
They have done business in other countries (They are not starting out afresh in Nigeria) And they have access to more capital

MOST Nigerians are not that fortunate

That is my point

There are opportunity, yea

The question is



FOR WHO?

Nigerians struggle a lot, and are faced with a lot of hurdles
Even the bank's prefer extending line of Credit to a Chinese over a Nigerian IN NIGERIA (I'm in the industry so I know )


So you see
That point does not paint the full picture.

olabukola:
in Nigeria tribalism, LAGOS and onitsha madness. No where is a bed of roses but London is trillion times compared to Nigeria. Can someone survive in Nigeria for 21 yrs sleeping in a public transport? As a homeless fellow he still goes to the library to read books, do we have libraries in Nigeria? Now if he marry and get kids(British Citizens) the kids will enjoy that his "wasted 21 Yr". Is that not why we hustle? For our kids to have some sort of comfort.

I see yoir point.

olabukola:
in Nigeria tribalism, LAGOS and onitsha madness. No where is a bed of roses but London is trillion times compared to Nigeria. Can someone survive in Nigeria for 21 yrs sleeping in a public transport? As a homeless fellow he still goes to the library to read books, do we have libraries in Nigeria? Now if he marry and get kids(British Citizens) the kids will enjoy that his "wasted 21 Yr". Is that not why we hustle? For our kids to have some sort of comfort.

no we don't have libraries ....abeg go and wash plates

DexterousOne:


What I mean is that the indo Chinese moving in to Nigeria are not your regulars
They come in with capital (lots of it )
They have done business in other countries (They are not starting out afresh in Nigeria) And they have access to more capital

MOST Nigerians are not that fortunate

That is my point

There are opportunity, yea

The question is



FOR WHO?

Nigerians struggle a lot, and are faced with a lot of hurdles
Even the bank's prefer extending line of Credit to a Chinese over a Nigerian IN NIGERIA (I'm in the industry so I know )


So you see
That point does not paint the full picture.

A lot of indo chinese come here to work as skilled foremen, yes most take on a supervisory role, I see a lot of them on sites with boots working with Nigerian labourers, a lot are Chefs, in Shoprite VI chinese man dey make noodles at the stands, at Debonairs Pizza, Lebanese man dey make pizza and sharwarma, I know these things cos I live in the axis. Don't come online misleading people to satisfy your ego.

People struggle everywhere, it all depends on what you do, and the class you aspire to belong to, even overseas most live on debts, some are homeless on subways and alleyways, and there are lots of ghettos in America, UK etc.

A peasant in America or anywhere is still a peasant, a minimum wage earner anywhere in the world is always somewhere around the bottom of the food chain.

dederocs:

A lot of indo chinese come here to work as skilled foremen, yes most take on a supervisory role, I see a lot of them on sites with boots working with Nigerian labourers, a lot are Chefs, in Shoprite VI chinese man dey make noodles at the stands, at Debonairs Pizza, Lebanese man dey make pizza and sharwarma, I know these things cos I live in the axis. Don't come online misleading people to satisfy your ego.

You are not serious with the bolded

You obviously are not


The ones you see on site
Are they not working for CHINESE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES?


The ones that come as skilled foreman
FOR WHO?

A lot of Chefs, IN THEIR OWN RESTAURANT or one owned by a compatriot

There was even a billionaire who imported his own personal chef from Italy.

The Indians you see buying up ilupeju
They hire Indians for managerial role


These guys coming to set up businesses here did not come empty handed

I have processed some of their transactions
And all I did was open mouth


You may not be that exposed to understand the point I was making to @nextstep, so I don't blame you

For you to think that the average Nigerian and these guys are on the same footing

olabukola:
Sometimes suffering is not all about lack of money. Running generetor to power ur house is suffering, staying stand still in a traffic for 2 hours is suffering, these two contributes largely to why life expectancy is low in Nigeria. To many suffering here even if you have billions.

Most people think having plenty of money means you are enjoying but the environment matters. Too many problems that reduces the quality of life we have here. Noise polution from generators, bus stops etc, traffic gridlock etc

DexterousOne:




You are not serious with the bolded

You obviously are not


The ones you see on site
Are they not working for CHINESE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES?


The ones that come as skilled foreman
FOR WHO?

A lot of Chefs, IN THEIR OWN RESTAURANT or one owned by a compatriot

There was even a billionaire who imported his own personal chef from Italy.

The Indians you see buying up ilupeju
They hire Indians for managerial role


These guys coming to set up businesses here did not come empty handed

I have processed some of their transactions
And all I did was open mouth


You may not be that exposed to understand the point I was making to @nextstep, so I don't blame you

For you to think that the average Nigerian and these guys are on the same footing

You just have to leave that guy in his ignorance. The same way he has been arguing with me blindly telling me Nigeria is the best country in the world, Everyone is making it there, he makes a deal of N3m in one minute, he travel to Dubai and other countries of the world. He just believe in argument and will never see any reason with you. Let him remain in his foolishness

ekerintee:
Sometimes some people ridicule nigeria because they have not gone out,when you ask nigerians abroad.they will tell you know place like home.even as bad as Nigeria is,it's still a good place .Every country has its own problem.The best place to make money is Africa,not abroad.Every cent you make abroad goes back to their economy.you work your life out to sustain their economy.while Nigerians are sleeping ,some of the people working abroad are already at work.do you know people wake up so early to work in some places doing tedious work and sleep late and because they send you money .you think life is easy for them.Do you know how many work some Nigerians are doing to survive .do you know the kind of racism they go thru.do you think they are given hundred percent opportunities abroad.some spend several years abroad with nothing to show.do you know there are many people who have spent 30 years abroad without having houses abroad.they build house in Nigeria and when they build house.do you think many can afford to build a house in banana island .I am not saying some cant afford it.the truth is that most Nigerians abroad are just average people abroad and not extremely rich











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Blessed on your comment, while someone just said it's better to live on the bus in UK then live at banana island. It's well.

Your story is one sided. Yes not everyone make it abroad, how about telling us about those who made it. Those Nigerian living in houses valued at more than £1m, those doing job and earning over £100k, those with children in Oxford or Cambridge Uni. Yet these are many as well in UK, US , Canada. Those ones wont make any noise but living a quiet life

DexterousOne:





You are not serious with the bolded

You obviously are not


The ones you see on site
Are they not working for CHINESE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES?


The ones that come as skilled foreman
FOR WHO?

A lot of Chefs, IN THEIR OWN RESTAURANT or one owned by a compatriot

There was even a billionaire who imported his own personal chef from Italy.

The Indians you see buying up ilupeju
They hire Indians for managerial role


These guys coming to set up businesses here did not come empty handed

I have processed some of their transactions
And all I did was open mouth


You may not be that exposed to understand the point I was making to @nextstep, so I don't blame you

For you to think that the average Nigerian and these guys are on the same footing

we just hired an Indian .....I personally interviewed him...he has been looking for a job like forever...the hutsle is real