Ok

Always get you fact well before you join any conversation. Hisbah is not everywhere in the North and they are not allowed to carry arm against the widespread believe. Amotekun could have been actualize if it was not tagged regional. quote author=oz4real83 post=85921195]This is time for Nigerians to unite against evil. Whatever you do to secure yourself is constitutional. No matter what anybody says or does, as far as Hisbah was allowed to operate in the north, Amotekun and others must also be allowed to operate in other regions. [/quote]

Mmmh And it continues

akdjr:
Always get you fact well before you join any conversation. Hisbah is not everywhere in the North and they are not allowed to carry arm against the widespread believe. Amotekun could have been actualize if it was not tagged regional. quote author=oz4real83 post=85921195]This is time for Nigerians to unite against evil. Whatever you do to secure yourself is constitutional. No matter what anybody says or does, as far as Hisbah was allowed to operate in the north, Amotekun and others must also be allowed to operate in other regions.

so you are no more from Edo

yanabasee:
Why didn't they wait to get the President's ascent before initiating the Illegal security outfit (According to Miyetti -Allah).

The President will likely dissolve the group since it's Fulani brothers are against it.... And Nothing will happen. Tinubu will gather the SW governors and brainwash them to see reasons with Mr President.

you the northers believed that you are invisible now. But very soon the table will turn against you. I know that the only thing you will do is calling other terrorist countries like Niger and Mali for help. We knew now that a fight with the north is a fight with the two countries mentioned.

Criminals,like Miyeti,will not like Amotekun.
Any item on exclusive list is a Total Failure.

"They went ahead with the launch when there were no words from the President against it or raising security issues"

That's is his usual style

Amotekun is here to stay.

TallPck1:
The presidency have failed to provide security for the people and the state governors have taken a great step and we the people are solidly behind them.

So the FG can go to court if they feel Amotekun is illegal.

Amotekun has come to stay just like Enugu has forest guards

AMOTEKUN: MY TAKE
Apparently we attend school for certificates in the south, not for knowledge.
I am so disappointed in the ongoing Amotekun debate.
There is no basis for it occupying our national discuss. No basis.

We operate a "constitutional democracy".
If you are confused, simply go back to the grundnum - The 1999 Constitution.
There are three tiers of government established and recognised by that book.
Federal, state and local government.
Each saddled with its responsibilities.
The crux of that responsibilities being the welfare of citizens.
No law passed by any of these tiers is illegal as long as it conform with the spirit and letters of the constitution.

The problem with this Amotekun contraption is that no government has a law on it. None.
Secondly the body setting it up is not a government and certainly is not recognised in the constitution
We don't have a regional government in Nigeria.

My chagrin is that there is hardly a family in the south without a college or university graduate.
Yet we failed when it mattered most.
The "highly illiterate northerners" read and understood the constitution.

Though the north are predominantly Muslim with sharia laws entrenched in the constitution, they practice same with the dictate of the constitution.
Every state maintain its borders and limits.
No Kano Hisbah can arrest an accuse in say Zaria or Dutse.
And vise versa.

On the Amotekun, if it was not lead by power mongers like Gani Adams, you expect each state to pass the enabling laws.
Set up their commands and stay within their boundaries.
But, no.
They want to set up an outfit to gift unconstitutional powers to their new Aare onakankanfo.

This can NEVER happen.
It will never work.
Set up your neighborhood watches. Do whatever you want.
But a regional armed force is a complete NO.
We won't go this way again.
Use your learning well for once.
Stop embarrassing us.

— Johnson Andrew

ME: This is a great write up. I agree with you 100%

You made some sense, stated facts without sounding tribalistic as is the norm in this forum. [color=#006600][/color]





Myopic. You think Buhari and Tinubu will last forever? You think Yorubas are like others who are one-way traffic and only know how to make empty noise? The only thing constant in life is change. We cannot go on as things are regarding security. The North, whether they like it or not, will have to embrace liberalism and tolerance when in power otherwise their purported superior numbers , they think will always keep them in power, will matter zilch when the Yorubas spiritually disengage from Nigeria. This is what some of us have been telling Igbos for decades. Openly shouting and gnashing teeth is not the only way to get what you want.

I have long encouraged Igbos to be more insular and go for the jugular of Nigeria, with their purported trading and economic might, if they really want Biafra. Once the power that be see that Igbos are not smiling with them economically and financially then they may grant more concession towards regional autonomy. Yorubas will succeed where Igbos fail because we are different. I therefore look forward to Buhari dissolving Amotekun, thus showing he has no regard for us and the security of Yoruba lives, as you brag in this your post. See wether the Yorubas will just accept that, continue to watch their people being slaughtered and do nothing but make noise as others have always done in Nigeria.

Do you not see prominent Yorubas, from Soyinka to FFK and PDP to APC, speaking in unison over Amotekun and telling Miyeti Allah et al to FFK their Presidency? Without Presidency, which region is best and most highly-regarded in Nigeria? Bruv, who is Buhari or Tinubu when Yorubas become spiritually wedded to a cause or pursuit? [/quote]

Zamfara express way news

Amotekun is here to stay

solmusdesigns:


so you are no more from Edo

I am a Nigerian and Edo. I have never denied it but I hate injustice. Nobody will ever consider floating a security outfit like Amotekun if the Federal govt has done it's duty of protecting everybody. I watched news of a man in Benin city who borrowed money to plant crops and the fulanis came to the farmland and stood watch while their cattle consumed everything in the man's farm. There are many other cases. The security agencies won't do anything even when u call them. This is purely evil. I still stand by my statement that whatever u do to protect yourself is constitutional.

ZombieHUNT:
It's only thieves that complain about his neighbors high fence and extra security guards..

Why is the North jittery?

There is more to this..... Fulanization agenda was real afterall

Of course it is all about Fulanization agenda that Obasanjo warned about.

Blue3k:
The ultimate solution is to amend the constitution to allow any tier of government to have their own police force and prisons. It also be smart to amend exclusive list item 2 and 1990 fire arms act. Stop the half measures and just do the hard work.

Simple.

I don't why these guys are beating around the bush.

There is nothing like national unity or cohesion in Nigeria today especially under the ethno-religious & supremacist promoting government of the APC led by Maj.Gen.Buhari wherein other region/ethnic groups sees themselves being forcefully subjugated in the fulanization/northerniz
-ation/islamization agenda.

This is further compounded by the total failure of governance evidenced by widespread poverty, economic collapse, continued unchallenged bloodshed/killings by (BH,fulanis,armed bandits, "unknown gunmen" )

I am from Edo state which makes me a Nigerian. So knowing what happen in other state is never bad. Just like we talking about the Amotekun now .quote author=solmusdesigns post=85934152]

so you are no more from Edo [/quote]

Oshigun:



Myopic. You think Buhari and Tinubu will last forever? You think Yorubas are like others who are one-way traffic and only know how to make empty noise? The only thing constant in life is change. We cannot go on as things are regarding security. The North, whether they like it or not, will have to embrace liberalism and tolerance when in power otherwise their purported superior numbers , they think will always keep them in power, will matter zilch when the Yorubas spiritually disengage from Nigeria. This is what some of us have been telling Igbos for decades. Openly shouting and gnashing teeth is not the only way to get what you want.

I have long encouraged Igbos to be more insular and go for the jugular of Nigeria, with their purported trading and economic might, if they really want Biafra. Once the power that be see that Igbos are not smiling with them economically and financially then they may grant more concession towards regional autonomy. Yorubas will succeed where Igbos fail because we are different. I therefore look forward to Buhari dissolving Amotekun, thus showing he has no regard for us and the security of Yoruba lives, as you brag in this your post. See wether the Yorubas will just accept that, continue to watch their people being slaughtered and do nothing but make noise as others have always done in Nigeria.

Do you not see prominent Yorubas, from Soyinka to FFK and PDP to APC, speaking in unison over Amotekun and telling Miyeti Allah et al to FFK their Presidency? Without Presidency, which region is best and most highly-regarded in Nigeria? Bruv, who is Buhari or Tinubu when Yorubas become spiritually wedded to a cause or pursuit?

thank you, also south west is the most viable region in Nigeria without South West Nigeria is finish,am waiting for North to try nonsense with south west we will show them.

. The reaction of the northern elites to the introduction of Amotekun(a southwest's security initiative} can be likened to a burglar ranting against his victim for installing high security gadgets to repel him.



.

oz4real83:
I am a Nigerian and Edo. I have never denied it but I hate injustice. Nobody will ever consider floating a security outfit like Amotekun if the Federal govt has done it's duty of protecting everybody. I watched news of a man in Benin city who borrowed money to plant crops and the fulanis came to the farmland and stood watch while their cattle consumed everything in the man's farm. There are many other cases. The security agencies won't do anything even when u call them. This is purely evil. I still stand by my statement that whatever u do to protect yourself is constitutional.

I get you bro, but the honest truth is that Civil Police are trained for Civil Duties, no police would leave Civilisation and head to the bush to search for or arrest bandits and criminals, that is why Amotekun like any other vigilantee secuirity group where equiped with rangers truck and bikes to reach remote areas, and local hunters are part of the people enlisted

as for the constituition, SouthWestern Governors informed the IGP as it is required by anyone who wants to set up a vigilante group and IGP gave them dos and donts like type of gun they can lisence and the flashpoint they have issues with, again the went for aproval from Office of the NSA and he cleared them.. even when they visited Buhari after the death of Afenifere leaders daughter they notified Buhari.. the respective governors had issued executive orders within their jurisdiction and all SouthWest Houses already has the bill in process

.

There is nothing wrong for people to want to make moves to protect themselves against external aggression.
We are talking about a government that is solidly behind a terrorist organization like the miyetti Allah.

Edu3Again:
This is why the North hates Amotekun
qq


OPERATION AMOTEKUN
Keep your cows and terrorism in the North,
Amotekun will be waiting for you in South West, any time.

© Badero-Olusola Oluwaseyi Maiyegu

does the word ametokun mean tiger?

executive12:


Of course it is all about Fulanization agenda that Obasanjo warned about.

don't mention Obj in this. He only cries out anytime he doesn't benefit anything or his nominees don't get anything. We must take the bull by the horn now. We should never wait anymore for people like Obj to lead the way. Who would have even thought that Obj will collect money from Atiku during last election?. But sadly, it happened

SpecialAdviser:

I have had a lot of people asking me why this Amotekun has been giving the north sleepless nights. It shows how shallow many Nigerians understand Nigerian politics. In fact let me try to explain something to them. May be they will start understanding Nnamdi Kanu better.

The north contribute very little to Nigerian economic development and would wait for proceeds from Niger Delta oil in order to carry out developmental projects. This is the core cause of Nigerian civil war. Abuja, Kano and other major cities in the north was built solely from oil proceeds.

Suffice is to say that everywhere in the world, oil is not found in every nook and crannies of a country. So Nigeria is not an exception to that simple logic.

But the issue with Nigeria is that the north refuses justice to other parts of Nigeria. Years of military rule refuses tangible project in other parts of the country. And a military channel was put in place to make sure no resistance exists anywhere from Nigeria. This is why you see them colonizing every military and para military organizations. Same reason Obasanjo retired many top military officers of northern origin to wither their influence.

The north fears any resistance that can cause break up and deny them the free flow of Niger Delta oil. The issue is that their mentality of subjugation has caused them big problem managing Nigerian unity. Their notorious nature have even caused a big split within the north itself as many minority northerners have become wiser now. Look at statement from TY Danjuma.

The coming to power by Buhari has escalated this mentality. Fact is that the fear of such subjugations which was evident in Buharis pre election statements caused Igbos to be on the alert resulting to what seemed like a hatred from the Igbos. People like Nnamdi Kanu cashed on this animosity and gained a lot of followership.

The north is always afraid of Nigerian break up but has failed to make Nigeria a country for all.
Im sure America has this intelligence and with the growing hatred they have in the north, we may expect break up earlier than expected.

I would advice Igbos investing so much outside Igboland to think twice before such investments. The future of this country is gloomy and you cannot afford to lose most of your belongings yet again to other Nigerians.

Except divine intervention, the country may have serious issues sooner than expected.

On point

AtikuNetwork:


https://thenationonlineng.net/why-buharis-men-security-chiefs-oppose-operation-amotekun/

Honestly the North has been slowing the movement or progress of everybody. If they can leave us for one year they will be shocked to even see our back.

Selfish interest will kill this government.

It is a lie ! The only simple reason the north is opposed to Amotekun is because it would stop fulanis expansion to the southwest.

Why is it that its only d north dt r complaining,why?the northerners very a bad agenda, yes they really have

SpecialAdviser:

I have had a lot of people asking me why this Amotekun has been giving the north sleepless nights. It shows how shallow many Nigerians understand Nigerian politics. In fact let me try to explain something to them. May be they will start understanding Nnamdi Kanu better.

The north contribute very little to Nigerian economic development and would wait for proceeds from Niger Delta oil in order to carry out developmental projects. This is the core cause of Nigerian civil war. Abuja, Kano and other major cities in the north was built solely from oil proceeds.

Suffice is to say that everywhere in the world, oil is not found in every nook and crannies of a country. So Nigeria is not an exception to that simple logic.

But the issue with Nigeria is that the north refuses justice to other parts of Nigeria. Years of military rule refuses tangible project in other parts of the country. And a military channel was put in place to make sure no resistance exists anywhere from Nigeria. This is why you see them colonizing every military and para military organizations. Same reason Obasanjo retired many top military officers of northern origin to wither their influence.

The north fears any resistance that can cause break up and deny them the free flow of Niger Delta oil. The issue is that their mentality of subjugation has caused them big problem managing Nigerian unity. Their notorious nature have even caused a big split within the north itself as many minority northerners have become wiser now. Look at statement from TY Danjuma.

The coming to power by Buhari has escalated this mentality. Fact is that the fear of such subjugations which was evident in Buharis pre election statements caused Igbos to be on the alert resulting to what seemed like a hatred from the Igbos. People like Nnamdi Kanu cashed on this animosity and gained a lot of followership.

The north is always afraid of Nigerian break up but has failed to make Nigeria a country for all.
Im sure America has this intelligence and with the growing hatred they have in the north, we may expect break up earlier than expected.

I would advice Igbos investing so much outside Igboland to think twice before such investments. The future of this country is gloomy and you cannot afford to lose most of your belongings yet again to other Nigerians.

Except divine intervention, the country may have serious issues sooner than expected.

Excellent analysis. I expect Nigeria to break up eventually and it will be the fault of the core North.

Oshigun:



Myopic. You think Buhari and Tinubu will last forever? You think Yorubas are like others who are one-way traffic and only know how to make empty noise? The only thing constant in life is change. We cannot go on as things are regarding security. The North, whether they like it or not, will have to embrace liberalism and tolerance when in power otherwise their purported superior numbers , they think will always keep them in power, will matter zilch when the Yorubas spiritually disengage from Nigeria. This is what some of us have been telling Igbos for decades. Openly shouting and gnashing teeth is not the only way to get what you want.

I have long encouraged Igbos to be more insular and go for the jugular of Nigeria, with their purported trading and economic might, if they really want Biafra. Once the power that be see that Igbos are not smiling with them economically and financially then they may grant more concession towards regional autonomy. Yorubas will succeed where Igbos fail because we are different. I therefore look forward to Buhari dissolving Amotekun, thus showing he has no regard for us and the security of Yoruba lives, as you brag in this your post. See wether the Yorubas will just accept that, continue to watch their people being slaughtered and do nothing but make noise as others have always done in Nigeria.

Do you not see prominent Yorubas, from Soyinka to FFK and PDP to APC, speaking in unison over Amotekun and telling Miyeti Allah et al to FFK their Presidency? Without Presidency, which region is best and most highly-regarded in Nigeria? Bruv, who is Buhari or Tinubu when Yorubas become spiritually wedded to a cause or pursuit?

I like your angle. When you tell igbos that it is not by just noise... some times you have to apply wisdom, they tell you that you do not know what you are saying.

Biafra Secret Service would have succeed had Nnamdi Kanu applied wisdom but he was more about himself than the cause he claimed to champion. He didnt do it with the support of the governors, which would have ensured it succeeded and so many errors in his approach.

Buhari's government has been tough on everyone and if not for my application of wisdom, tact and skill, I would probably be among those applicant of Npower that were used for election and dumped thereafter.

EcoBrick:



I said in an earlier post that I was almost certain that Fayemi and the SW governors must have informed Buhari and his people about Amotekun before it launched and consequently got the greenlight to go ahead with it. Fayemi is too close to Buhari and the presidency not to have done that. But perhaps he and the others got carried away and overestimated their rapport with Buhari, failing to realize that in this power game, Yorubas are dispensable at will to Buhari and his cabal.

Buhari showed this much to Amosun (whom everyone knows is very close to him) at a point in time. He didn't hesitate to ditch him when Amosun needed him the most because Buhari himself was seeking reelection at the time and didn't want to stick his neck out for anyone.

Tinubu has also faced similar and even worse treatment from Buhari and his handlers but I think he is adapting to the nuances of the power game and keeping his intentions to himself because the same Yoruba people that think they are close to Buhari are ready to betray and demystify Tinubu to please the cabal in a heartbeat.

As for Fayemi, I hope that this will be a lesson for him going forward. Now he will know that Buhari and his cabal have no permanent Yoruba friends in this power game, except pawns that can be used against their own kinsmen when the need arises, only to be made to look stupid afterward.

We Yorubas are yet to learn some lessons in our dealings with the Northerners. National politics is essentially a power game which, due to being away from the centre for long, our people are yet to master. But the smart ones are taking notes.

This Amotekun matter will fizzle out one way or another. Fayemi has said that the SW governors will soon meet with Buhari and try to persuade him on the need to allow the outfit to stay. I can bet you that Buhari will have his way by the end of such meeting.

Beautiful write up. Bless u. You are wise