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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by mvem(m): 9:38am On Feb 01, 2020
GamalNasser:


Shut up Trump's records are there for all to see , the best records of any US President in first 3 year ever ...Show us what your Buhari has achieved in 6 years ? Yet you support Buhari ..shei you can see something is doing you
why can't you read up...student visas and other visas won't be stopped or banned. The Visa they banned is immigration visa or h1b visa for permanent residency. This is due to many Nigerians staying illegally in US after their visa expires. Student visas and other visas are still going to be issued

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by Arijude(m): 9:39am On Feb 01, 2020
Agugbadin:


Our president is on his second tenure, how many times has he been interviewed or addressed the public like America president do, when you talk about open communication with this president is not existing.
your kwantry fresident don't understand English na
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by Nobody: 9:40am On Feb 01, 2020
gbagyiza:


To develop their country by stealing all the money n detaining people that voice out against bad leadership. you r joking.

I'm not actually. I'm dead serious. Don't you think we should fix our country?
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by Benprass(m): 9:42am On Feb 01, 2020
those that are going for education are they affected too?
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by Nobody: 9:43am On Feb 01, 2020
Okuda:


lol. tell this to thousands of people who as early as 3am in the morning are already hanging around the us embassy in VI just to get a shot at travelling to Gods own country

So sad.
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by mvem(m): 9:43am On Feb 01, 2020
GamalNasser:


Tanzania has a high population of Islamic fanatics
what of Saudi, Egypt, Oman , Qatar, turkey, etc...seems you don't know what you say...Tanzanian having Islamic fanatics? What of the country I called above. The ban was on something entirely different. Nigerians have a bad reputation of living illegally in the US and Trump has always been voicing that. And please understand the content of the visa ban. Even Iran that is completely banned do have students that goes schooling in the US. Not all visa types are banned when you see ban

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by mvem(m): 9:44am On Feb 01, 2020
Benprass:
those that are going for education are they affected too?
No...it doesn't affect student Visa...only immigrant visa... Our problem is we don't read, the information is online and detailed

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by Deejaygold(m): 9:45am On Feb 01, 2020
Ok
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by GamalNasser: 9:45am On Feb 01, 2020
mvem:
what of Saudi, Egypt, Oman , Qatar, turkey, etc...seems you don't know what you say...Tanzanian having Islamic fanatics? What of the country I called above. The ban was on something entirely different. Nigerians have a bad reputation of living illegally in the US and Trump has always been voicing that. And please understand the content of the visa ban. Even Iran that is completely banned do have students that goes schooling in the US. Not all visa types are banned when you see ban

Oga we are talking about immigration visas here
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by mvem(m): 9:47am On Feb 01, 2020
GamalNasser:


Oga we are talking about immigration visas here
yes and that is the only visa being banned for now. Anyone can still travel to the US for other reasons.... It doesn't even affect the elite as you wish

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by GamalNasser: 9:50am On Feb 01, 2020
mvem:
yes and that is the only visa being banned for now. Anyone can still travel to the US for other reasons.... It doesn't even affect the elite as you wish

Where did I mention elite? Do you know it will affect FDI ? This is beyond travelling
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by mvem(m): 9:53am On Feb 01, 2020
GamalNasser:


Where did I mention elite? Do you know it will affect FDI ? This is beyond travelling
From what I understand by FDI it means it will affect Nigerian investors trying to invest in the US

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by GamalNasser: 9:54am On Feb 01, 2020
mvem:
From what I understand by FDI it means it will affect Nigerian investors trying to invest in the US

It will even affect Nigerias ability to attract FDI from foriegn investors and I hope you know Nigeria FDI has already been on a steady decline under this ultra bad leader we have today

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by OsamaDallon: 9:57am On Feb 01, 2020
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HacheNoire:


Agreed. But that's not the reason Trump is placing a restriction on Nigerians. It's just a make up. It's glaring to all that Nigerians have enormously abused visas and same time have a bastardized image by it's very own citizens.

It's just difficult to put it straight in a statement but it's glaring. By the standards listed in that statement, Some countries should top the list and that's where I disagree.
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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by Shattuck(m): 10:02am On Feb 01, 2020
GamalNasser:


So you want the US to announce protest as a reason ? Receive sense
you receive sense,Nigeria has one of the highest rate of visa abuse in the world.until we begin to do what is right as a people we aren't going move forward as a nation.

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by pureconscience: 10:04am On Feb 01, 2020
when you choose to observe Table manners.
voltron14:


What country would he not have done this with?


Nigerians are poor and lazy and i reserve no apologies.

I would keep hitting this fact, the GDP per capita of Nigeria is 2000 dollars.

You fly into America on a visitor's visa and overstay to the level of 12% whilst those other countries you wish to talk about have an average of 1.2% overstayers.

Cry blood.

Scream about ineptitude of the government of the day.

Continue to hide your head in the sand.
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by mvem(m): 10:05am On Feb 01, 2020
GamalNasser:


It will even affect Nigerias ability to attract FDI from foriegn investors and I hope you know Nigeria FDI has already been on a steady decline under this ultra bad leader we have today
yeh I get that...a bad development

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by liveyourlife007(m): 10:05am On Feb 01, 2020
Retards. burning U.S flag, you think it's your shit hole green and White
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by GamalNasser: 10:08am On Feb 01, 2020
Shattuck:
you receive sense,Nigeria has one of the highest rate of visa abuse in the world.until we begin to do what is right as a people we aren't going move forward as a nation.

True bro

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by foruma(m): 10:10am On Feb 01, 2020
Ok. This is my two cents.

This is quite an oxymoron.

So US bans NIGERIA from obtaining immigration visas, but will allow students, medical and tourist visas. All this because of insufficient security measures, visa overstays, etc.


Now, the immigration visas like H1, H4, Spousal Visas, family visas, etc. obtained from the embassy are for legitimate reasons like work, relocation, running from persecution and the likes. This is for legitimate stay in the US at least until the expiry of the visas. About 8,000 such visas are issued each year. The conditions for obtaining these visas are strenuous and undergo rigorous scrutiny.

Medical and tourist visas which i think is where the challenge seem to be, only allows for a short time, e.g. a max of 6 months for the B1/B2 Visa, and very prone to overstays. Over 100,000 of these types of visas are issued every year.

So banning H1 and H4 for Nigerians because of B1/B2 overstays but you still allow B1/B2 makes for a head scratching moment.

So basically US is saying we want your money, pls keep coming to visit, spend money on your medical bills, education, travels, holidays but You must go back. We don’t want you migrating to live here.

I don’t see how this will curb B1/B2 Visa overstays.

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by foruma(m): 10:13am On Feb 01, 2020
pureconscience:
when you choose to observe Table manners.

So won’t it make sense to ban B1/B2 visas instead?
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by Nobody: 10:16am On Feb 01, 2020
Hmmm so help Nigeria God ����
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by 7lives: 10:18am On Feb 01, 2020
ENG0701:


I don't think that it has anything to do with the protest. The reason is in the last paragraph. Almost 20% of Nigerians that visit the US end up stating illegally.

They also stay behind to commit Nigerian scam, aka 419.
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by Olam09(m): 10:20am On Feb 01, 2020
We all know donald trump as a racist fine he told us not to come to their country that's okay but he didn't know that them been the strength of the world today is not by their own people but by the blacks we made their labour service strong we are active in the united state in every aspect entertainment sport nd much more thank God the uk is now embracing all Nigerians and Africans so they should go and eat their land
The united nation organization are not active at all they once said anyone have the right to be granted asylum in any country in the world why is the United state own na different guyz don't let it suprise you if Donald Trump loose in this coming election because people will really be against him this time around both the black and white thank God he's having issue with Vladimir Putin so i don't think anyone will have time hacking vote for him this time around idiot
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by foruma(m): 10:20am On Feb 01, 2020
voltron14:


What country would he not have done this with?


Nigerians are poor and lazy and i reserve no apologies.

I would keep hitting this fact, the GDP per capita of Nigeria is 2000 dollars.

You fly into America on a visitor's visa and overstay to the level of 12% whilst those other countries you wish to talk about have an average of 1.2% overstayers.

Cry blood.

Scream about ineptitude of the government of the day.

Continue to hide your head in the sand.

Then it will make sense to ban the visitors visa, won’t it? But that visa will still be issued (the ban doesn’t affect that class of visa), so the overstays will still continue.
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by Caustic001: 10:22am On Feb 01, 2020
we ve failed ourselves, past and present angry
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by dalass(f): 10:22am On Feb 01, 2020
nameo:


Are you comparing Nigeria with Tanzania or Eritrean?

Diplomatically? Really??

Yes, we're not only on the same level, we're even below them!

One of the things Obasanjo observed first hand from his visit to GMB on assumption of office is that Buhari knows NOTHING ABOUT FOREIGN POLICIES..Including economy!

What are we seeing now...Even the corruption Mr Integrity is fighting has grown larger, terrorism has spread even to the south.. I tire for the President Buhari...
Just junketing about with no clear policy

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by foruma(m): 10:23am On Feb 01, 2020
7lives:


They also stay behind to commit Nigerian scam, aka 419.

Please go and read the ban carefully. Visitor visa hasn’t been banned!!!! US will still continue to issue B1/B2 visas. So that won’t fix the problem! or scam as you call it.

This is just a smokescreen.

Watch this video to understand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAr8ydlFTms

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by 7lives: 10:30am On Feb 01, 2020
Minamoto:

There is literally no reason for you all to support Trump. Where is this Nigerian support coming from? Trump is a nazi and a racist and has even praised a book that said that 'wherever Nigerians are much in the USA, there is crime there'. Yet you all love him and for what reason? Just give me one reason. Do your research please, Trump does not care about all of you.

I guess you all identify with his arrogant attitude and see it as 'strength'. Or Nigerians love being oppressed so much it's now part of them

You get time most people supporting Trump are numbskulls.
The guy is a racist EOD.

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by ofeco: 10:30am On Feb 01, 2020
Arijude:
nigeria is a pure zoo. Preach that to your mama


You should also preach the zoo stuff to your papa. Maturity entails so many things which are obviously lacking in your person.

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Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by Nobody: 10:32am On Feb 01, 2020
President Trump added six countries to his administration’s travel ban Friday — including ­Nigeria, Africa’s most populous country — in a widely anticipated expansion that Democrats blasted as “clearly discriminatory” against people from predominantly black and Muslim nations.

Citing national security concerns, officials at the Department of Homeland Security and the State Department said Trump’s proclamation would bar most citizens of Nigeria, Eritrea, Myanmar and Kyrgyzstan from coming to work and live in the United States. Two nations, Tanzania and Sudan, would be banned from applying for the visa lottery, which issues up to 50,000 visas a year worldwide to countries with historically low migration to the United States.

The new ban takes effect Feb. 22; travelers who have received visas or are in transit at that time will not be affected. Travelers who have not received visas will be subject to the ban but will be automatically considered for waivers.

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Officials estimate the policy will affect several thousand people a year, on the basis of recent immigrant arrivals from those countries. The policy will now limit immigration from 13 countries.

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The Washington Post's Supreme Court reporter Robert Barnes explains the justices' 5-4 decision June 26 to uphold President Trump's travel ban. (Joyce Koh/The Washington Post)
Trump’s initial ban in 2017, which initially targeted Muslim countries, ignited chaos during his first days in office amid allegations that the ban was discriminatory and illegal. The policy was knocked down in federal courts and then reinstated by the U.S. Supreme Court, and the new expansion signals that the administration is not going to relent in its efforts to slash immigration during an election year.

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Added to robust measures at the U.S. southern border that have curbed Central American migration in recent months, the targeting of immigrant visas also allows the president to advance his goal of reducing family-based migration.

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Trump, in a proclamation issued Friday, said the countries were chosen after an extensive evaluation that examined travel security and measures, and national security threats in dozens of countries; those that made the list were chosen from a recommendation that U.S. officials made in January.

“The six additional countries recommended for restrictions in the January 2020 proposal are among the worst performing in the world,” Trump said in the proclamation, but he said he was encouraged by their “willingness to work with the United States” to correct the deficiencies.

A statement from the White House said that it is “fundamental to national security, and the height of common sense, that if a foreign nation wishes to receive the benefits of immigration and travel to the United States, it must satisfy basic security conditions outlined by America’s law-enforcement and intelligence professionals.”

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Refugees from the six countries are exempt from the ban.

House Democrats attacked the expansion hours before the Trump administration unveiled it, calling the ban “xenophobic” and “reckless” and saying there is no evidence of national security threats that would warrant such restrictions.

Speaking on the condition of anonymity on a call with reporters, federal officials would not detail specific national security threats in the six countries for fear of disclosing information to “nefarious” actors there. But officials said there were “gaps and vulnerabilities” in each nation that could be exploited by terrorists and criminals.

Officials said the countries had been selected on the basis of a ranking system that evaluated countries for compliance with various vetting and information standards as well as terrorism risks. The standards they looked at included whether the countries use biometric passports; whether the country reports theft and loss of passports adequately to the United States or Interpol; whether it shares information on known or suspected terrorists and criminals; whether it shares examples of its passports with the United States so they can be used to determine signs of fraud.

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The current ban prohibits immigrant and most temporary forms of travel to the United States for citizens of Iran, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen and North Korea, as well as certain visits for some Venezuelan government officials. All but two, Venezuela and North Korea, are majority Muslim. Trump in 2018 complained about accepting too many immigrants from Africa, Haiti and El Salvador, which he labeled “shithole countries.”

“Our country has to be safe,” Trump told reporters last week at a news conference in Davos, Switzerland.

U.S. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Tex.), who represents Houston, home to a large number of Nigerians, said there are concerns with terrorist groups in some countries but that there are “bad actors” in China and Russia, both not included in the ban.

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“We believe in the process of due process, freedom of movement. . . . They are the national and international values that we show to the world,” she said, adding that Trump abused his power because he bypassed Congress. “This administration has stripped and shredded those values with no basis in security.”

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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) said Congress plans to vote soon on legislation that would substantially restrict the president’s authority to limit such travel to the United States, but the measure is unlikely to clear the Republican-dominated Senate.

Jessica Vaughan, the director of policy studies at the Center for Immigration Studies, a nonprofit organization that favors restrictions on immigration, said she hopes Trump’s proclamation will lead to greater passport controls in the targeted countries.

“Everybody’s being evaluated, and these are countries that didn’t make the cut,” said Vaughan, who was a U.S. consular officer in the early 1990s.

But she said it would have been more effective had Trump also imposed restrictions on temporary visas, because security lapses could still occur. “All it takes is one entry by a terrorist to cause a problem,” she said.

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Of the six new countries, Nigeria also has the largest number of immigrants in the United States — about 300,000, not counting their U.S.-born children — with many in Texas, Maryland and New York. Nigerian immigrants and their children were more likely to have college degrees than the overall U.S. population, according to a Migration Policy Institute report. Nigerians also accounted for one of the largest groups of visa overstays in 2018, according to DHS.

The ban is expected to disrupt millions of dollars of business deals, analysts say, as well as freeze a robust flow of Nigerian students to the United States that, according to the Commerce Department, contributed approximately $514 million to the U.S. economy in the past academic year. The number of Nigerian travelers to the United States dropped 20 percent last year after the U.S. government ended a frequent-traveler program and increased entry fees.

Republicans and Democrats have raised questions about the effectiveness of the travel ban and other “extreme vetting” measures under the Trump administration. After a Saudi military trainee shot and killed three sailors in December at a naval air station in Florida, Republican lawmakers asked the Trump administration to explain why it allowed Saudi military trainees into the country.

Though citizens of the banned countries can apply for waivers if they are denied entry, few receive them. Approximately 10 percent of the 72,000 applications for waivers to the ban filed by citizens of Iran, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria were granted in the past two years, according to the State Department.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/trump-expands-long-standing-immigration-ban-to-include-six-more-countries-most-from-africa/2020/01/31/413e93ec-443e-11ea-aa6a-083d01b3ed18_story.html?itid=hp_hp-top-table-main_afriban526p%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans
Re: Trump Finally Adds Nigeria To His Restricted Travel list - NY Times by oyebanji(m): 10:33am On Feb 01, 2020
"A United States government official said the administration was adding Nigeria and Tanzania to the list because of the number of people who come from the African countries on a visa and end up illegally staying in the United States. The official said Sudan and Eritrea had not satisfied the administration’s information-sharing requirements"

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