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mrZENographer:
2 Peter 2:1
"But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privately shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction."


Matthew 24:11 "And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many."

Matthew 24:5 - For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ (I am a man of God); and shall deceive many.

Hey! Don't just quote the bible, we have very serious issues and I bet a lot of people want answers, you left them unanswered and even added more to the confusion with your biblical quotes. As far as I see it, you're ignoring the issues before your eyes.
I'm a christian before you start calling me a pagan. Don't just quote the bible and go...

Fortissimo502:
None of these issues would be controversial if we actually read and understand the bible.

How so... Give us a cue from issue number 8 above... Alcohol

Wantedola:
You should just kukuma be the assistant op na... Very much on point sir.

lol. Tnx

IsraelOA:
What is the Christian view on gay marriage? Are spiritual gifts biblical? Can Christians drink alcohol? These are some of the topics that often cause heated controversy within the church today. Christians take very different opinions on these issues and both sides refer to Scripture to support their views. Discernment is certainly necessary, even among a group of believers in today's culture. Whatever your views on each of these topics, hopefully reading this list of the areas where the church often experiences division will encourage us as Christ-followers to strive for unity within our own churches and even across denominations, because although there is much division and controversy among the broader church, there are also core doctrines that unite us.

1. GAY MARRIAGE
Gay marriage and whether it should be allowed in the church is certainly at the top of the list of modern-day controversial subjects. One need not search current headlines for long to find evidence of this controversy.

This issue has caused division among many denominations. The Presbyterian Church (USA) supports it, while the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) and others do not support it, for example.

But perhaps nowhere is the controversy surrounding this issue more prevalent than in the Anglican Church. In recent years (and even months), the Anglican Church has softened its stance toward gay marriage and gay priests, but there is still much oppostion. Some have called on the church to be more welcoming of LGBT individuals, some go so far as supporting gay clergy and granting them the rights to perform same-sex marriages, while others remain firmly committed to the traditional definition of marriage. The United Methodist Church is experiencing controversy over this issue. You can read more about it here.

2. ABORTION
At first, one might think this subject is not so controversial within the church as it is between those in the church and those without. However, as a recent Pew Research Center study shows, those who claim to be religious yet don't associate themselves with a particular denomination actually are mostly in favor of abortion, with only 17 percent opposing it.

Still, a majority of Christians are pro-life, but the subject remains a controversial one within the church, especially when it comes to the argument that pro-life should mean more than simply "pro-birth."

3. WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP
The issue of women teaching/preaching in church can quickly become heated. Again, more conservative denominations tend to be against women in leadership roles, while more liberal denominations tend to accept it.
Recently, there has been a particular crisis on this issue with the rise of Christian women bloggers. The online presence and followers these women have is substantial and has caused some within Christianity to question their authority, even though they are not preaching/teaching in a traditional church setting.

4. TYPE OF WORSHIP MUSIC
Contemporary or traditional? Hymns or modern worship songs? This is definitely an issue that tends to spark debate within many churches. It's often even a deciding factor when someone chooses a church to belong to. This issue also tends to divide believers between older and younger generations.

Even certain instruments can be controversial. A drum set might not be considered acceptable in some churches, while another church may have an entire praise band with a full range of instruments.

Some churches have attempted to resolve the controversy by using both traditional and contemporary songs intermixed during their worship services or even providing two different services--one more traditional and one more modern.

5. SPIRITUAL GIFTS
Although spiritual gifts are mentioned several times in the New Testament, different church denominations have different interpretations of what it truly means to have and use a spiritual gift.

The spiritual gift of speaking in tongues tends to be the most controversial of any spiritual gift. While Pentecostals fully affirm this spiritual gift, other denominations have gone so far as so say that speaking in tongues is offending the Holy Spirit.

Other Christians embrace spiritual gifts and even encourage congregants or church staffers to take spiritual gift tests to see where they are best equiped to serve.

6. BAPTISM
Although practically all churches practice baptism, baptism rituals in different denominations not only vary in practice but in theology. There has been a heated debate within the church for centuries on whether the Bible promotes infant or only believer baptism.

More liturgical churches even tend to give the impression that baptism is essential for salvation, while others don't seem to put a lot of weight on it. Some churches also baptize infants, but see it not as evidence of salvation, but rather as a commitment by the child's family and church body to bring up the child in the fear of the Lord. In this way, an infant baptism is more like a dedication of the child.

Still other churches only baptize those who are old enough to make a profession of faith of their own free will.

Chrisitans also have opinions on how and where baptisms should take place--by sprinkling of water, by pouring water on someone, or by full immersion.

7. POLITICS FROM THE PULPIT
Should ministers talk about politics or endorse a specific political party or view from the pulpit?

Churchgoers have very different views on the subject, but the controversy isn't confined to the church. Several months ago, President Trump signed an executive order ceasing enforcement of the Johnson Amendment, which prohibited a church, as a nonprofit entity, from endorsing and promoting a particular political party or candidate. Many championed the executive order, saying that it gave churches more religious freedom, but others maintained that siding with a certain political party is not something a church should be doing.

8. ALCOHOL
Can Christians drink alcohol? This question opens up all kinds of debate within the church. Many churchgoers believe Christians should completely stay away from alcohol, bars, and anything that has to do with drinking since the Bible condemns drunkenness and instructs Christ-followers to be sober-minded.

Other churchgoers, however, believe that consuming alcohol in moderation is not a sin. These Christians often argue their point from 1 Corinthians 8 in which the Apostle Paul says to "Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak." Many take this to mean, by the context surrounding it, that drinking alcohol is permitted, but Christians should be careful not to cause someone who is prone to alcohol abuse or someone who believes it is a sin, to stumble in his/her faith by seeing another Christian drinking.

A church's views on alcohol can even be seen sometimes in the worship service; some churches use grape juice for Communion, while others use wine.

https://590amtheword.com/articles/church/pastors-or-leadership/here-are-8-of-the-most-controversial-issues-in-the-church-today

Great post. Nice one OP.

As a Roman Catholic, all what you've have raised are not issues at all because following what is written diligently in the Bible and based on ancient practices, such issues does not qualify as *controversial*
For instance: Abortion is simply murder.
How can semen which is alive become dead? When the Bible says: even before you were formed in your mother's womb, I knew you.

Remember, all sins begins with a logic.
The d3vil used logic to deceive Eve.

No to Gayism. Gay is a biological disorder that can be treated. They should seek treatment. No to dollbaby & Gay. Man & Woman combination remain the best,they can Ask their parents. No to Abortion except for rape n severe complications. Yes to Baptism, both infant n Adult. Fact is, Infant die n adult die too. Baptism is the Initiation ritual to Christianity.no baptism no Christianity. Either by Immersion or Sprinkling, water is involve. Romans 6vs3-4 or don't you know that all of us who where baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were D4 buried with him thru baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead thru the glory of the father we too may live a new life. No to Tithe, is an old Order law.to be only referenced n not practiced in New testament Order of Christ followers called Christians.2Crth 3vs 9-13, if the Ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. "If what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which last. we are not like Moses. Yes to Politics because we are member of a community. “The easiest way for Evil to thrive in any society, is when acclaim Good Men seat and do Nothing”. After all it is politicians that decide your wages, the price of food in market, the cost of your Transportation. It's a full cycle.

Twist4u:
No to Gayism. Gay is a biological disorder that can be treated. They should seek treatment. No to dollbaby & Gay. Man & Woman combination remain the best,they can Ask their parents. No to Abortion except for rape n severe complications. Yes to Baptism, both infant n Adult. Fact is, Infant die n adult die too. Baptism is the Initiation ritual to Christianity.no baptism no Christianity. Either by Immersion or Sprinkling, water is involve. Romans 6vs3-4 or don't you know that all of us who where baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were D4 buried with him thru baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead thru the glory of the father we too may live a new life. No to Tithe, is an old Order law.to be only referenced n not practiced in New testament Order of Christ followers called Christians.2Crth 3vs 9-13, if the Ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. "If what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which last. we are not like Moses. Yes to Politics because we are member of a community. “The easiest way for Evil to thrive in any society, is when acclaim Good Men seat and do Nothing”. After all it is politicians that decide your wages, the price of food in market, the cost of your Transportation. It's a full cycle.

Man and woman remains the best because you like it.I don't blame you.Just thank your God you are straight but the few who are gay are also made by God.You didn't make yourself.Did you?

babyfaceafrica:
The Bible clearly said divorce is not allowed unless in the case of Adultery,



So even if my husband beats me, drinks and smokes.. I should still be with him

yes it is an institution you enter which you will not graduate from.that is why you should be prayerful and careful before entering .it is more spiritual exercise than physical

sanmtiago:
you’re not going against the Bible. You’re doing the right thing which is logical. If your husband beats you to stupor incessantly it’s domestic violence and in saner climes individuals often file for a divorce when there’s no sign of change from their significant order. Life is much more important and that’s what you need to know. You don’t have to die because someone failed to control their own demons. Please be realistic and guided!

Gods law is never mans law
Remain unmarried if you want to leave the man

Oluromantic:
That abortion is really an issue. We know God doesn't approve it but what does one do when the pregnancy is a threat to the carrier's life or it's a product of incest/bestiality or violation/rape that comes with psychic trauma at the site of the child.

I know a church(name withheld) that says wearing tight(female underwear in place of pant) is a sin. That anything that looks like knicker or trouser whether in or out is sinful for a woman to wear.

Another issue is sex. Dag heaward-mills(a popular American pastor) said in one of his books that it's not sinful for couples to engage in orall sex. But many other pastors condemn it

Another issue is divorce. A particular popular church in Nigeria with its head pastor now a divorcee is said to have the highest record of divorce within its members among xtain organizations in Nigeria. In d Western world, it's even a normal routine among xtains. Which does one believe?

Point of correction, an abortion can become a threat to life in case of ectopic pregnancy. This is the reason abortion can be allowed. However, other human violation in regards to sex does not warrant an abortion. For human life is bigger than the shame or the trauma that's accrued to it.
[I know a church(name withheld) that says wearing tight(female underwear in place of pant) is a sin. That anything that looks like knicker or trouser whether in or out is sinful for a woman to wear.[/quote]In the Gospel of Matthew
On the contrary, according to Mark 9:42 thus says; "Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea."
Whatever that can make another man or woman to objectify you sexually is a sin. Most of the revealing clothes women wear are worn to seduce men or that they may appear sexy. What used to be private have now become public. Most women both married and single have gone wield about their private lives. This is typified in the kind of clothes they wear. Some feel like to go naked than being responsible. All in the name of civilization or freedom but they have forgotten that freedom comes with responsibility. From women both young and middle age women wear today, you could see the contour of their private part. We all know that Christ taught to not look at woman lustfully for it is a sin for man to do so (Matthew chapter 5:28).

This is not a controversy based on Christian teaching for Christ categorically taught us all that we should follow. I think it is more controversial on the aspect of those who choose what they should hear and what they feel like doing. Today's Christian do not believe in what God is telling them that believe in what they feel like to listen to and how they select the kind of message that I listen to any message that has to do with purity of heart they turn it down.

naxyrick:
Gods law is never mans law
Remain unmarried if you want to leave the man

So are you in support of domestic violence?? Then when it leads to death you begin to blame the wife why she did not call it a quit when she knew it will one day end with loss of life.

Fortissimo502:
None of these issues would be controversial if we actually read and understand the bible.

And this is where the whole issues emanated from, many don't take time to study their Bible except on Sundays, you should love your Bible, which is the oldest book with the latest information
with all those debates, it highly unnecessary although baby Christian should learn to take a queue from such information if you love God the father of our lord Jesus Christ .

Tonyfj2020:
Point of correction, an abortion can become a threat to life in case of ectopic pregnancy. This is the reason abortion can be allowed. However, other human violation in regards to sex does not warrant an abortion. For human life is bigger than the shame or the trauma that's accrued to it.
[I know a church(name withheld) that says wearing tight(female underwear in place of pant) is a sin. That anything that looks like knicker or trouser whether in or out is sinful for a woman to wear.
In the Gospel of Matthew
On the contrary, according to Mark 9:42 thus says; "Whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be thrown into the sea."
Whatever that can make another man or woman to objectify you sexually is a sin. Most of the revealing clothes women wear are worn to seduce men or that they may appear sexy. What used to be private have now become public. Most women both married and single have gone wield about their private lives. This is typified in the kind of clothes they wear. Some feel like to go naked than being responsible. All in the name of civilization or freedom but they have forgotten that freedom comes with responsibility. From women both young and middle age women wear today, you could see the contour of their private part. We all know that Christ taught to not look at woman lustfully for it is a sin for man to do so (Matthew chapter 5:28).

This is not a controversy based on Christian teaching for Christ categorically taught us all that we should follow. I think it is more controversial on the aspect of those who choose what they should hear and what they feel like doing. Today's Christian do not believe in what God is telling them that believe in what they feel like to listen to and how they select the kind of message that I listen to any message that has to do with purity of heart they turn it down.

You don't have to correct me. I wasn't wrong about anything. I just asked for opinions. Thanks

I can't find the rest of them. I will look again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJKbtfKZy58&feature=share

mvem:
admiring a woman's beauty isn't it lustful looking ?

Admiring a woman's beauty without lust in your heart is the same thing as admiring a pretty 6 year old girl. You and I know that 98% of men who admire attractive women are doing it with lust - the desire to taste what they are seeing.

Fortissimo502:
None of these issues would be controversial if we actually read and understand the bible.

God bless you Immediately

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IsraelOA:
What is the Christian view on gay marriage? Are spiritual gifts biblical? Can Christians drink alcohol? These are some of the topics that often cause heated controversy within the church today. Christians take very different opinions on these issues and both sides refer to Scripture to support their views. Discernment is certainly necessary, even among a group of believers in today's culture. Whatever your views on each of these topics, hopefully reading this list of the areas where the church often experiences division will encourage us as Christ-followers to strive for unity within our own churches and even across denominations, because although there is much division and controversy among the broader church, there are also core doctrines that unite us.

1. GAY MARRIAGE
Gay marriage and whether it should be allowed in the church is certainly at the top of the list of modern-day controversial subjects. One need not search current headlines for long to find evidence of this controversy.

This issue has caused division among many denominations. The Presbyterian Church (USA) supports it, while the Presbyterian Church in America (PCA) and others do not support it, for example.

But perhaps nowhere is the controversy surrounding this issue more prevalent than in the Anglican Church. In recent years (and even months), the Anglican Church has softened its stance toward gay marriage and gay priests, but there is still much oppostion. Some have called on the church to be more welcoming of LGBT individuals, some go so far as supporting gay clergy and granting them the rights to perform same-sex marriages, while others remain firmly committed to the traditional definition of marriage. The United Methodist Church is experiencing controversy over this issue. You can read more about it here.

2. ABORTION
At first, one might think this subject is not so controversial within the church as it is between those in the church and those without. However, as a recent Pew Research Center study shows, those who claim to be religious yet don't associate themselves with a particular denomination actually are mostly in favor of abortion, with only 17 percent opposing it.

Still, a majority of Christians are pro-life, but the subject remains a controversial one within the church, especially when it comes to the argument that pro-life should mean more than simply "pro-birth."

3. WOMEN IN LEADERSHIP
The issue of women teaching/preaching in church can quickly become heated. Again, more conservative denominations tend to be against women in leadership roles, while more liberal denominations tend to accept it.
Recently, there has been a particular crisis on this issue with the rise of Christian women bloggers. The online presence and followers these women have is substantial and has caused some within Christianity to question their authority, even though they are not preaching/teaching in a traditional church setting.

4. TYPE OF WORSHIP MUSIC
Contemporary or traditional? Hymns or modern worship songs? This is definitely an issue that tends to spark debate within many churches. It's often even a deciding factor when someone chooses a church to belong to. This issue also tends to divide believers between older and younger generations.

Even certain instruments can be controversial. A drum set might not be considered acceptable in some churches, while another church may have an entire praise band with a full range of instruments.

Some churches have attempted to resolve the controversy by using both traditional and contemporary songs intermixed during their worship services or even providing two different services--one more traditional and one more modern.

5. SPIRITUAL GIFTS
Although spiritual gifts are mentioned several times in the New Testament, different church denominations have different interpretations of what it truly means to have and use a spiritual gift.

The spiritual gift of speaking in tongues tends to be the most controversial of any spiritual gift. While Pentecostals fully affirm this spiritual gift, other denominations have gone so far as so say that speaking in tongues is offending the Holy Spirit.

Other Christians embrace spiritual gifts and even encourage congregants or church staffers to take spiritual gift tests to see where they are best equiped to serve.

6. BAPTISM
Although practically all churches practice baptism, baptism rituals in different denominations not only vary in practice but in theology. There has been a heated debate within the church for centuries on whether the Bible promotes infant or only believer baptism.

More liturgical churches even tend to give the impression that baptism is essential for salvation, while others don't seem to put a lot of weight on it. Some churches also baptize infants, but see it not as evidence of salvation, but rather as a commitment by the child's family and church body to bring up the child in the fear of the Lord. In this way, an infant baptism is more like a dedication of the child.

Still other churches only baptize those who are old enough to make a profession of faith of their own free will.

Chrisitans also have opinions on how and where baptisms should take place--by sprinkling of water, by pouring water on someone, or by full immersion.

7. POLITICS FROM THE PULPIT
Should ministers talk about politics or endorse a specific political party or view from the pulpit?

Churchgoers have very different views on the subject, but the controversy isn't confined to the church. Several months ago, President Trump signed an executive order ceasing enforcement of the Johnson Amendment, which prohibited a church, as a nonprofit entity, from endorsing and promoting a particular political party or candidate. Many championed the executive order, saying that it gave churches more religious freedom, but others maintained that siding with a certain political party is not something a church should be doing.

8. ALCOHOL
Can Christians drink alcohol? This question opens up all kinds of debate within the church. Many churchgoers believe Christians should completely stay away from alcohol, bars, and anything that has to do with drinking since the Bible condemns drunkenness and instructs Christ-followers to be sober-minded.

Other churchgoers, however, believe that consuming alcohol in moderation is not a sin. These Christians often argue their point from 1 Corinthians 8 in which the Apostle Paul says to "Be careful, however, that the exercise of your rights does not become a stumbling block to the weak." Many take this to mean, by the context surrounding it, that drinking alcohol is permitted, but Christians should be careful not to cause someone who is prone to alcohol abuse or someone who believes it is a sin, to stumble in his/her faith by seeing another Christian drinking.

A church's views on alcohol can even be seen sometimes in the worship service; some churches use grape juice for Communion, while others use wine.

https://590amtheword.com/articles/church/pastors-or-leadership/here-are-8-of-the-most-controversial-issues-in-the-church-today

Apologies, none of these is an issue of controversy. We haven't study the word or clear the grey areas that's why you see them as controversial. Thank you

gentlegenius:
Admiring a woman's beauty without lust in your heart is the same thing as admiring a pretty 6 year old girl. You and I know that 98% of men who admire attractive women are doing it with lust - the desire to taste what they are seeing.

98% are going to hell then. How will you look at a matured woman same way you look at a 6 year old girl. To admire the curves and femininity of a woman is human nature but you say it is lusting. Hasn't God made us differently and to say a woman is beautiful is to say you are attracted to her which can eventually lead to you going for her because you like what you see and from there develop a relationship that can lead to Marriage. How is that lusting...Let's be real. Don't you admire a beautiful woman when you see her because she has good feminine characteristics which God has put in place.

maiquel:
Hey! Don't just quote the bible, we have very serious issues and I bet a lot of people want answers, you left them unanswered and even added more to the confusion with your biblical quotes. As far as I see it, you're ignoring the issues before your eyes.
I'm a christian before you start calling me a pagan. Don't just quote the bible and go...

I had many things to say. But in other to make my comment short and pass the message at the same time. I could choose to write a very long post addressing all the listed issues. But how many people would want to read a long post?

mvem:
98% are going to hell then. How will you look at a matured woman same way you look at a 6 year old girl. To admire the curves and femininity of a woman is human nature but you say it is lusting. Hasn't God made us differently and to say a woman is beautiful is to say you are attracted to her which can eventually lead to you going for her because you like what you see and from there develop a relationship that can lead to Marriage. How is that lusting...Let's be real. Don't you admire a beautiful woman when you see her because she has good feminine characteristics which God has put in place.

"If a man looks at a woman to lust after her, then he had already committed adultery in his heart".
Bros... I didn't make that statement. Jesus did.
Maybe you should argue with him.

gentlegenius:
"If a man looks at a woman to lust after her, then he had already committed adultery in his heart".
Bros... I didn't make that statement. Jesus did.
Maybe you should argue with him.

A single man/woman can't commit adultery. Adultery has to do with you being married so it is reasonable that it is meant for the married. Why would a married man admire someone sexually that is not his wife and vice versa......moreover the statement looking at a woman lustfully is subjective

Retrography:
As a Roman Catholic, all what you've have raised are not issues at all because following what is written diligently in the Bible and based on ancient practices, such issues does not qualify as *controversial*
For instance: Abortion is simply murder.
How can semen which is alive become dead? When the Bible says: even before you were formed in your mother's womb, I knew you.

Remember, all sins begins with a logic.
The d3vil used logic to deceive Eve.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+5%3A16-28&version=NRSVCE

You didn't mention fornication

babyfaceafrica:
The Bible clearly said divorce is not allowed unless in the case of Adultery,



So even if my husband beats me, drinks and smokes.. I should still be with him

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Did u consulted God before u married him? Did u attracted him by seduction? Many women are the cause of their headache. If ur husband abuse u, don't seek divorce. Take it to God instead. If u fail to suffer for ur sins here on earth, u will suffer for it in hell.

gibzzhd:
Man and woman remains the best because you like it.I don't blame you.Just thank your God you are straight but the few who are gay are also made by God.You didn't make yourself.Did you?

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Gays are children of the devil. Sinners are children of the devil. Haven't u come across such statement by Christ himself?

mvem:
98% are going to hell then. How will you look at a matured woman same way you look at a 6 year old girl. To admire the curves and femininity of a woman is human nature but you say it is lusting. Hasn't God made us differently and to say a woman is beautiful is to say you are attracted to her which can eventually lead to you going for her because you like what you see and from there develop a relationship that can lead to Marriage. How is that lusting...Let's be real. Don't you admire a beautiful woman when you see her because she has good feminine characteristics which God has put in place.

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Lust is when u look at someone with sexual thoughts in ur heart. U said "To admire the curves and femininity of a woman is human nature". But remember that human nature according to the bible, is sinful. U can't make heaven with human nature.

FarmTech:
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Gays are children of the devil. Sinners are children of the devil. Haven't u come across such statement by Christ himself?

Then we all are because we are all sinners but for his grace which is available to ALL.Thank God Man is not God.Who man conderm God justifies.

Oluromantic:
That abortion is really an issue. We know God doesn't approve it but what does one do when the pregnancy is a threat to the carrier's life or it's a product of incest/bestiality or violation/rape that comes with psychic trauma at the site of the child.

I know a church(name withheld) that says wearing tight(female underwear in place of pant) is a sin. That anything that looks like knicker or trouser whether in or out is sinful for a woman to wear.

Another issue is sex. Dag heaward-mills(a popular American pastor) said in one of his books that it's not sinful for couples to engage in orall sex. But many other pastors condemn it

Another issue is divorce. A particular popular church in Nigeria with its head pastor now a divorcee is said to have the highest record of divorce within its members among xtain organizations in Nigeria. In d Western world, it's even a normal routine among xtains. Which does one believe?

Hi, Dag Heward-Mills is a Ghanaian Pastor.

mrZENographer:
I had many things to say. But in other to make my comment short and pass the message at the same time. I could choose to write a very long post addressing all the listed issues. But how many people would want to read a long post?

Ok

FarmTech:
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Lust is when u look at someone with sexual thoughts in ur heart. U said "To admire the curves and femininity of a woman is human nature". But remember that human nature according to the bible, is sinful. U can't make heaven with human nature.

We are talking about Adultery here. A married man or woman looking at another sexually when he or she has a wife NOT a single person. And when is human nature according to the bible sinful...you guyz just take things out of context