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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by obiekunie2: 10:32am On Jan 31, 2020
soberdrunk:



[s]Just imagine how immature and shallow minded you are, even the OP didn't mention name but you are quick to defame, no need to even waste time with you, people like you are moved by sentiments and lack the ability to reason efficiently......[/s].

no matter how sober a drunk may pretend to be - the shaky legs and slurred reasoning will always give them away.
Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by ivoryhouse(m): 10:58am On Jan 31, 2020
Why do people find it hard to just state facts without insults? How can anyone in this century libel someone on a huge platform like nairaland.com, on a whim?
Op, you were not scammed. If you feel otherwise, call out the dealer, let's hear his side of the story.
Good day all, and TGIF

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Mayor555(m): 11:08am On Jan 31, 2020
Katakata
Op this is not a scam, I repeat this is not a scam.

Dealer mentioned importing as the way to go, after trying to source for your spec but to no avail.
He was aware you contacted another importer to import for you, that explains why he stopped contacting you.

Searching for a car with specific specs can be seriously consuming.

You were not scammed.

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by obiekunie2: 11:57am On Jan 31, 2020
GAZZUZZ:


I have grown past a certain level of trust. ₦20,000 is not enough to soil my name.

Hatred is a horrible thing, that you would pay hard earned cash to see me go down is quite unfortunate.

It's still January keep waiting an opportunity will come before December.


ehya!

this is maturity.

apologies on our behalf.

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by 9icetoo(m): 1:18pm On Jan 31, 2020
Fentanyl:


you sabi read so?

how does a couple of cars the op said mean "5 cars at least", or are you also a mind reader?

you also did not see where op said none of the cars had the specs op wanted even though op told him the specs?

which kin logistics

abeg join your side and follow your people
You win.

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Nobody: 1:54pm On Jan 31, 2020
WuTangClan:
I will refrain from mentioning any names, I just want perspectives on this matter.


Sometime towards the end of 2019, I contacted a known dealer here on Nairaland when I wanted to get a car to replace the car I was using at the time.

I admit I did not take necessary precautions such as a concrete agreement, mainly because I felt the dealer was honorable and would not try anything shady.

When I contacted him on Whatsapp, he told me I would have to pay him some money to find the car I wanted. He requested I pay 50,000 Naira for him to search for the car, I had a contact transfer 20,000 Naira to him to find the car, I also sent him the specs I desired.

Over the course of the next month or so, I constantly asked for updates and he kept telling me it would take some time to find all the specs I wanted, which made sense to me, he also sent pictures of a couple of cars which had none or few of all the specs I told him I wanted.

Along the line he mentioned one may have to import the car because it may not be found locally, but he then said he was still searching locally. I eventually decided to explore other options while waiting for him to deliver what he was paid for, because I was running out of time and I did not want to put all my eggs in one basket.

I contacted another trusted agent here, and through the agent we were able to find a suitable car, import and clear it. The car eventually landed towards the end of November 2019.

Through all this, the dealer I sent the 20,000 never updated me at all, not even to say he was still searching for the car or anything.

I ultimately took delivery of my car from the trusted agent sometime in December but had to travel for work almost immediately, and was very busy over the holidays.

A few days ago when the holiday workload finally lessened, I contacted the dealer who had not said anything to me for months, and I asked him about the status of the money I sent to him, his response was that the money could not be refunded and that the only thing that he was prepared to do was to find the car, the same car he claimed to have been searching for but had not found for months and he never even bothered to update me.

He also said he was surprised I contacted him again, by that I guess he hoped or thought I had forgotten all about the 20,000. He also said that he was aware I contacted somebody else to import the car even though he told me that he also runs an importation service, and that at the end of the day he was still involved in repairing the car the agent imported for me.

My response to all this was that it did not and does not concern him if I contacted anybody else, and that I paid him money to perform a service.

He further insisted that he would not refund any money to me.

My question now is, is the dealer right?

Do I forfeit the money I sent him just because we did not have a concrete agreement initially?

He knows I already have the car I wanted, so by telling me he can only search for a car, he is implying i have to forget about the 20,000 I sent to him.

What if I had sent 50,000 as he requested, what would be my situation now?

If someone paid for a service and the person he paid did not fulfil the service, should the client forfeit the money?

Have I been a victim of a scam, or is the dealer right?



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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Alfred74: 2:00pm On Jan 31, 2020
Monkeyprick:




Call him out and shame the prick.
I suspect GAZZUZZ

jessusson2020 once called him a rip off

Hater,No you fail this time.
Gazzuz has responded to this. You wish but no be Gazzuzz.
Hope you take this hatred put it in between a slice of bread and shove it down your arssssssee.
Read the thread from beginning olodo.

You no need delete am grin
Everybody must see am grin

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by seunoj: 2:28pm On Jan 31, 2020
When things like this happen, I usually focus on learning point to prevent a recurrence.
Clearly this is not a scam but modus operandi of pple who are consulted for services such as this one.
To prevent a repeat and for public enlightenment, ensure terms and conditions are clearly spelt out.
E.g:
Service price and Minimum deposit,
Full Description of assets to be acquired
Max time period for search and implications of non performance on both sides
Search result should be related to requirements not just any thing to waste quality time
Penalty for opting out on both sides.

I believe if this and other things are agreed, the scam issue will be addressed ab initio. Since there is none, It is not a scam bro. The dealer just displayed the regular Blackman attitude when there is no documentation

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Nobody: 2:30pm On Jan 31, 2020
Alfred74:


Hater,No you fail this time.
Gazzuz has responded to this. You wish but no be Gazzuzz.
Hope you take this hatred put it in between a slice of bread and shove it down your arssssssee.
Read the thread from beginning olodo.

You no need delete am grin
Everybody must see am grin



Iya e!
Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Alfred74: 3:00pm On Jan 31, 2020
Monkeyprick:




Iya e!
Iyalaya e oni kure,coward grin

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Nobody: 3:23pm On Jan 31, 2020
Alfred74:

Iyalaya e oni kure,coward grin

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Nobody: 3:49pm On Jan 31, 2020
Alfred74:

grin Nuisance like you would be taught some lessons,uncle olodo sofo and sons Nigeria limited,wetin you find come here too? Did he dupe you to have tagged him the suspect? grin
Aso ibora ki lapo.
Agbada kii ni zip.
Gele ki ni button.
Oni ri bati se.
Ojo tomode ba dari sapa apa apa grin
Alo rami rami laa ri aki rabo,se lo ma rin wogbo grin




Gbogbo epe yen fun e ati idile e
Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Alfred74: 4:00pm On Jan 31, 2020
Monkeyprick:




Gbogbo epe yen fun e ati idile e

Abiku sise radarada. Omo lasan lasan ikeji aja.
Ati Gbogbo ara ile e tomo tomo,tebi tara grin
Wereery alaso grin
Se olo lack opolo ni? I go instill am tipa tikuku grin

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by thebigkendo(m): 4:24pm On Jan 31, 2020
grin grin grin grin
Clowns everywhere
Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Nobody: 4:43pm On Jan 31, 2020
Alfred74:

Uncle ode,shebi na you be our third partner in gay nacking,how about our threeeeeesome last night? Hope your yantch no dey pain you yet?
Alayebaje grin


If dem born you well, paste me your address, if i no come to treat your Bleep up, no be your papa born you.
Go get yourself a job and stop quoting me.
Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Alfred74: 4:53pm On Jan 31, 2020
Monkeyprick:



If dem born you well, paste me your address, if i no come to treat your Bleep up, no be your papa born you.
Go get yourself a job and stop quoting me.

grin grin grin grin
If you get mind and na confirm say na your mama puna you come out from,and you carry that your long ugly mouth suck your mama titis,carry your crooked leg come ALAGBON PRISON ti o ba ni sanku. grin
I deey here deey wait you,se olo ni brain ni? Iwo to ye kan fi se nkan osu danu,uncle apoda.
Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by radautoworks: 5:06pm On Jan 31, 2020
WuTangClan:
I will refrain from mentioning any names, I just want perspectives on this matter.


Sometime towards the end of 2019, I contacted a known dealer here in Nairaland when I wanted to get a car to replace the car I was using at the time.

I admit I did not take necessary precautions such as a concrete agreement, mainly because I felt the dealer was honorable and would not try anything shady.

....

and the person he paid did not fulfil the service, should the client forfeit the money?

Have I been a victim of a scam, or is the dealer right?

Ethically the dealer is wrong but legally he is within his rights.

He did some work in sending pictures. We don't know if they were cars he already had or not and how much work if any, he did. Without specifying terms, legally all he had to to was send you a single vehicle remotely close to what you asked for.

Ethically however, he should not keep all the money especially if he still had a hand in the repair.

Chalk it up to lesson learned, enjoy your car and simply steer clear of loosely defined contracts in the future no matter who refers you.

At our shop, it's even the ones closest to me that I make sure to have signed contracts with to avoid ruining relationships.

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by diportivo: 10:30pm On Jan 31, 2020
o wunmi ki nsoro sha

but

oponu ti poju lori thread yii

many are mad and roaming on nairaland grin

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by bigiyaro(m): 9:18pm On Feb 01, 2020
soberdrunk:



You were not scammed, you are even owing the dealer 30k because he did your job and even when you decided to sideline him, he still helped in the the whole process.
he is still owing the dealer as how? did the dealer finish his own part of the deal?
Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Marlodah(m): 3:42pm On Feb 02, 2020
Bro just let it go jare, although you yourself already said no concrete agreement and there is no clause like duration or time limit for him to help you search for the car then he refunds the money. So the 20k in my own view is the price you pay for not making it a concrete agreement.
Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Readonee35L(m): 4:04pm On Feb 02, 2020
fabienjoe:
...but even the story itself without hearing from the dealer shows no overt fraud. You paid a fee for a service and was dissatisfied with what you got. What means of redress did you seek from the service provider before making alternative arrangement? Obviously none. The service was already in process seeing as he sent you some pictures of cars so it is fair to assume he had already started the job. Where is the scam in this? Refunding your part payment is out of it. The only resolution if you're dissatisfied is to meet him for variation of the contract since it didn't go to plan. He would present the bill for the effort he put in and two of you would determine whether he needs to refund you, or you need to top up the N20,000. I'm sure you won't ask a lawyer to fully refund legal fees already paid if you decide to discontinue a case midway...or ask a school to refund your school fees because you're withdrawing from your programme midway...or perhaps ask a doctor to refund
professional fees he had already received because you don't want to continue the treatment in his hospital....
Most sensible comment here.

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Nobody: 3:59pm On Feb 12, 2020
buygala:


This is pure unadulterated witchcraft sad

You haven't confirmed the person you mentioned is the one... I hope you realize you are not as anonymous as you think, so you can sued by the person you mentioned for Libel, with damages against you running into the millions of naira, if not into tens of millions...

And the honest truth is that if Gazzuzz can confirm your identity and location, as all as that he wasn't involved in this deal, I will take up the case for free, just to make an example of people like you... Me and him go share the money after I have squeezed you and your generation's total worth out of you.... If I get a couple of millions while fixing a stupid person, Both God and my bank akant will be well pleased grin

Even if you have, you haven't heard the said dealer's side of the story in order to give a balanced opinion..

Blind Hate is a bad thing Bro... Purge thyself of it..

For all those who just formed an opinion without hearing the other side of the story, you guys really need to calm down.... Talking too fast isn't wisdom anywhere


May we not be judged in one sided opinion



[b]Hungry mofo!
Him no see case chop since last year, na just banter him wan take up.
Failed lawyer
Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by buygala(m): 4:06pm On Feb 12, 2020
Monkeyprick:




[b]Hungry mofo!
Him no see case chop since last year, na just banter him wan take up.
Failed lawyer

You are right smiley


Thank you

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Readonee35L(m): 4:22pm On Feb 12, 2020
Based On the Statement *Customer is always right*
Some customers will almost ruin your life with their Bad Understanding / Evil mind.

The op knows what he is doing because the money paid wasn't even for the vehicle. The man did his job and if one is to be honest you owe him his balance .


If you defend the Person they paid the 20k, you'd be labelled as a thief. If you defend the op you'd be labelled as being unjust .
But either way, who expects a refund for a service as this which has already been executed . no one collects a refund from a lawyer even if the case is lost. It's left for you to do your home work before paying for their services .



May we not be called out in public because of 20k.

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by GAZZUZZ(m): 4:43pm On Feb 12, 2020
Readonee35L:
Based On the Statement *Customer is always right*
Some customers will almost ruin your life with their Bad Understanding / Evil mind.

The op knows what he is doing because the money paid wasn't even for the vehicle. The man did his job and if one is to be honest you owe him his balance .


If you defend the Person they paid the 20k, you'd be labelled as a thief. If you defend the op you'd be labelled as being unjust .
But either way, who expects a refund for a service as this which has already been executed . no one collects a refund from a lawyer even if the case is lost. It's left for you to do your home work before paying for their services .



May we not be called out in public because of 20k.

Amen

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Fentanyl: 4:59pm On Feb 12, 2020
Readonee35L:
Based On the Statement *Customer is always right*
Some customers will almost ruin your life with their Bad Understanding / Evil mind.

The op knows what he is doing because the money paid wasn't even for the vehicle. The man did his job and if one is to be honest you owe him his balance .


If you defend the Person they paid the 20k, you'd be labelled as a thief. If you defend the op you'd be labelled as being unjust .
But either way, who expects a refund for a service as this which has already been executed . no one collects a refund from a lawyer even if the case is lost. It's left for you to do your home work before paying for their services .



May we not be called out in public because of 20k.

these days the best approach to using this forum is to check the poster before you read the post

so bros, you have spoken well, what you have said is as predictable as the sun rising and setting everyday

afterall you sell cars and you have most likely done the exact same thing done to the op, to people before, in fact I remember seeing one thread I can't recall now where you did something similarly crooked with one car you were selling

so please remove the cloak of "unbiased" from your post, and kindly join your side, they are all waiting for you

well done

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Fentanyl: 5:02pm On Feb 12, 2020
GAZZUZZ:

Amen
please follow him and join the queue, there are waiting to welcome you

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by aninweze(m): 5:54pm On Feb 12, 2020
Let me drop this link and screenshot for people with Dementia, and those not active on autos and Cartalk.

How Gazzuzz settled 86k matter wey no concern am.

https://www.nairaland.com/5489200/update-issue-autoelectng-resolved

Call me a Gazzuzz disciple, no wahala. But all this Kain hate is d kind pri sch children do, where the girl they push and are mean to, is actually the one dey like d most.

LOL

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Re: Was I Scammed Or Is The Dealer Right? by Readonee35L(m): 8:52pm On Feb 12, 2020
Fentanyl:


these days the best approach to using this forum is to check the poster before you read the post

so bros, you have spoken well, what you have said is as predictable as the sun rising and setting everyday

afterall you sell cars and you have most likely done the exact same thing done to the op, to people before, in fact I remember seeing one thread I can't recall now where you did something similarly crooked with one car you were selling

so please remove the cloak of "unbiased" from your post, and kindly join your side, they are all waiting for you

well done
Please kindly provide the thread link.
You think its ur peanuts i want to eat.

Abi i dn collect money for ur hand b4? cheesy

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