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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Benbelor(m): 11:04am On Feb 13, 2020
If you are in Nigeria and you choose to be doing Holier than thou my guy you go carry people cross tire

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by adecz: 11:05am On Feb 13, 2020
You are in Nigeria & you wan
form oyibo..


The NEPA guy don give you the
solution & you are coming to disturb
us on NL..

Take time!! angry

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by TreasureJunky: 11:05am On Feb 13, 2020
Trouble dey sleep, inyanga go wake am..

You parked into a new house, and you were enjoying power without interruption, nobody sent you message, you went to make enquiries from your friend who told you the amount that the meter has accrued since erection. As if that was not enough, you took it step further to enquire from nepa themselves, now they have told you, and still went further to disconnect your light... I hope you have seen what you are looking for?
In life, you see wetin you dey find.. I hope you are happy with your findings

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by bigcee(m): 11:06am On Feb 13, 2020
Samofamo:
since u have decided to speak for him,let me face u,it is only an idiot will act the way the op acted,may be he just left his father and his mother house to start a bachelor life,probably that is his first experience with renting an accommodation.... And for you also you are still a boy in your teenage years or early twenties....foolish boys u will learn by experience...
Oga take ur stupidity else where. Don't mention me again. Animal!

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by SharpD: 11:06am On Feb 13, 2020
I can relate to your present predicament. Since the landlord is not willing to cooperate with you on this, I will advise you go to their office and plead for them to set you up on a flexible payment plan say 20% debt and 80% units each time you recharge. That way you will be able to service the debt and still get units while you are staying in the apartment and then plan your exit when your rent expires. Meanwhile i will like to know which disco you are connected to.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Asquare84(m): 11:07am On Feb 13, 2020
with the kind of comment i am reading here show that nigerian have a long way to go, someone came online report something about the system that is wrong, instead of the citizen to be applauding him for his good deed, nigerian here are castigating him. with this our mentality when will nigerian get it right

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Samofamo: 11:08am On Feb 13, 2020
bigcee:

Oga take ur stupidity else where. Don't mention me again. Animal!
it's ur father and mother that did not train u well on communication manners that are stupid,u must even be a bastard, am sure u don't know ur father
Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Tomoyayi(m): 11:10am On Feb 13, 2020
Alitair:
Have you seen how your Over-sabi and Holy holy has attracted a debt to you

A house that is not a virgin house, someone had lived there and for some reasons bypassed the PPM and connected directly. Thy holiness thought it illegal to enjoy light and went ahead to report to PHCN, even when the PHCN staff overlooked you Over sabi and asked for money to correct the fault, you refused and now you are complaining.

As you be Eze-Ego, go and clear the debts na or better yet.... Go and build your house and leave the man's house for him.

You brought this on yourself dear sir so kindly bear the burden.

He did the right thing. PHCN Meter monitoring unit behave like ghost, they can show up anytime. Do you know they can check details of happenings in the meter? so it's just a matter of time before they show up like village people.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Jabioro: 11:10am On Feb 13, 2020
You forgot that common truth doesn't used to survived in Nigeria.. Go back
to that NEPA guy to help you out..the truth died when Lord Lugard and Floral decided to take Southern and Northern protectorate to their matrimonial room to witness their conjugal act.They couldn't tell the world ;the whole truth of what they saw.. Holiness belong to sane countries.. You are in insane country...
Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Abagworo(m): 11:10am On Feb 13, 2020
NeoWanZaeed:


Na 9ja we dey.. no bribe nothing go happen .

Bribe them and leave the money for meter for next tenant

That’s the ultimate Naija solution. Even the NEPA guys will think of him as one mumu
Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by bigcee(m): 11:14am On Feb 13, 2020
Samofamo:
it's my father and mother that did not train me well on communication manners that are stupid,i must even be a bastard, am sure i don't know my father
Good for u!
Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by abdullkabar(m): 11:22am On Feb 13, 2020
Op just park out

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Nobody: 11:22am On Feb 13, 2020
Tomoyayi:


He did the right thing. PHCN monitoring unit behave like ghost, they can show up anytime. Do you know they can check details of happenings in the meter? so it's just a matter of time before they show up like village people.

LOL...very true.

Their monitoring spirits showed up like ghost at one of my previous places of residence three years ago......hehehe.
Never sleep or slumber.
Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by puretayo(m): 11:24am On Feb 13, 2020
If only 80% of Nigerians can be like op, Nigeria would have been a better place to live in. Say no to corruption, say no bribery. Change begins with me.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Neoteny(m): 11:25am On Feb 13, 2020
The rule is that landlords bear the burden of any electricity debt on their property if they allow tenants to leave without settling their bills.

It's the landlord's responsibility to ensure any tenant checking out did not tamper with meters, nor accrued any debt.

Contact the DisCo and they'll tell you this much.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Nobody: 11:28am On Feb 13, 2020
puretayo:
If only 80% of Nigerians can be like op, Nigeria would have been a better place to live in. Say no to corruption, say no bribery. Change begins with me.

The sad thing about most of the comments here is that many of them were encouraging him to continue with the illegal connection.

When I say that the main problem with power in Nigeria is that most Nigerians don't want to pay their light bills, and that even giving everyone a meter won't solve the problem because many Nigerians will bypass the meter and enjoy free light, people abuse me and call me names and say I am evil, or supporting Buhari (that I never voted for, not since 2003 when he ran)

The problem even existed in the days of NEPA and analog meters. Illegal connections, people not paying for power, etc.

And when DISCOS and GENCOS complain of lack of funds people will come and say they are lying.

Meanwhile, power cannot improve in Nigeria...until people stop lying to themselves and PAY THEIR BILLS.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Nobody: 11:29am On Feb 13, 2020
Neoteny:
The rule is that landlords bear the burden of any electricity debt on their property if they allow tenants to leave without settling their bills.

It's the landlord's responsibility to ensure any tenant checking out did not tamper with meters, nor accrued any debt.

Contact the DisCo and they'll tell you this much.


Very true.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by deavicky(m): 11:30am On Feb 13, 2020
Openedheavens:
I need nairalanders' advice concerning my present predicament.

I rented an apartment late last year and discovered my power wasn't disconnected despite having not made any recharge on the prepaid after 2 weeks.

I called my landlord brother who let the place out to me, to inform him about my findings, but he insisted that I was enjoying the recharge from the previous tenant.

I tried checking the balance through the small box used for recharging but it wasn't connecting and I believed it was a network issue

After about a month, my curiosity heightened and for the fact that I hate to be involved in anything illegal, I decided to make further inquiries concerning the metre.

My neighbor and chief tenant who has been in the house for about 4 years told me that there's debt on the metre which made the previous occupant connect directly while by passing the prepaid metre..

I called a friend who once worked with Nepa and he made findings saying the debt on the metre is 118,000 naira. I got the number of the landlord and decided to put a call to him last December.

He claimed that the house has been on prepaid metre since the erection of the building. And said I should ask Nepa how the debt was accrued..
I agreed with him so I decided to make more findings concerning how debt got on the metre.

During this period, a nepa official came for inspection, he dropped his phone number as I was not at home. I called him and explained everything to him..

He gave me the summary of the transaction which showed that the house owed a debt while on post paid, which was transfered on the prepaid meter when it was installed.
The nepa official indirectly asked me to bribe him so he would leave the metre not disconnected which I didn't oblige to.

He came last week to disconnect the metre and I have called the landlord who refused to find a solution to the problem.

My landlord claims he hasn't lived in the compound for a day and wouldn't be responsible for it. I suggested that I clear the bill and deduct it from my next rent. He refused.

I have been in darkness for over a week now and running on generator without any solution in sight.

What's the best measure I can take towards resolving this issue?
they bypass the lite, instead of u to be using it like that, u say u are righteous now they have cut ur lite and there is nothing u can do than going to pay. That is what over curiosity causes.do u know how much the useless Nepa say I'm owing them, about 410k. They cut my lite since June last year and they are still bringing bill of not less than 14k monthly. While even when the lite was there i don't even use electricity of 2k in a month. I have decided to wait and see the end of the whole thing let's see how they will get the money. Minimum wage is 18k and they want me to pay bill of 14k not like I have bakery or any commercial stuff in the cpd.
Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by flexrivers(m): 11:30am On Feb 13, 2020
Get a lawyer, pay the bill. When payment for the next rent comes, file an appeal in court against the land lord for your rent to be deducted from the bill. Have all the facts right.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Nobody: 11:37am On Feb 13, 2020
You have done the right thing.

You experience; though painful, is more of a blessing to prospective tenants reading this and a blessing to you as well. One day, they will detect and the stupid greedy tenant that thinks electricity falls like rain will pay both the outstanding debts and the estimated consumption ever since the meter was installed.

The fact that someone could bypass for months and the power providers did not detect is a sign of failure. Your report alone should have given birth to investigations into history of energy purchase on that meter; this I'm sure must affect the landlord somehow.

My suggestions;

1. Propose sharing of the debt to your landlord and if he sees no sense in it,

2. (Subtly) threaten the landlord with formal report of bypassing meter on his property. Let him know the likely consequences.

3. If he will return your money, you can move out.

4. Take it as your debt, approach your energy supplier to discuss payment pattern; I think there is a way they spread it over a period of time.

5. Run on generator until house rent expires. But, remember they will bypass again to trap another unsuspecting tenants.

Well, if you end up paying the debt, you have lost nothing. Those people calling your action stupid are the almighty wise Nigerians that complain about everything, but find it difficult to do anything the right way. Check them, they always lack.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by jarkbauer: 11:39am On Feb 13, 2020
Reading comments. Nigerians are not ready to pay for power. It's very sad the the disco cannot even investigate that an account with N118k debt did not make payment for a long time yet was using light.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by jarkbauer: 11:42am On Feb 13, 2020
evilive:
You have done the right thing.

You experience; though painful, is more of a blessing to prospective tenants reading this and a blessing to you as well. One day, they will detect and the stupid greedy tenant that thinks electricity falls like rain will pay both the outstanding debts and the estimated consumption ever since the meter was installed.

The fact that someone could bypass for months and the power providers did not detect is a sign of failure. Your report alone should have given birth to investigations into history of energy purchase on that meter; this I'm sure must affect the landlord somehow.

My suggestions;

1. Propose sharing of the debt to your landlord and if he sees no sense in it,

2. (Subtly) threaten the landlord with formal report of bypassing meter on his property. Let him know the likely consequences.

3. If he will return your money, you can move out.

4. Take it as your debt, approach your energy supplier to discuss payment pattern; I think there is a way they spread it over a period of time.

5. Run on generator until house rent expires. But, remember they will bypass again to trap another unsuspecting tenants.

Well, if you end up paying the debt, you have lost nothing. Those people calling your action stupid are the almighty wise Nigerians that complain about everything, but find it difficult to do anything the right way. Check them, they always lack.

Best comment

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by BitCraftman: 11:42am On Feb 13, 2020
Openedheavens:
I need nairalanders' advice concerning my present predicament.

I rented an apartment late last year and discovered my power wasn't disconnected despite having not made any recharge on the prepaid after 2 weeks.

I called my landlord brother who let the place out to me, to inform him about my findings, but he insisted that I was enjoying the recharge from the previous tenant.

I tried checking the balance through the small box used for recharging but it wasn't connecting and I believed it was a network issue

After about a month, my curiosity heightened and for the fact that I hate to be involved in anything illegal, I decided to make further inquiries concerning the metre.

My neighbor and chief tenant who has been in the house for about 4 years told me that there's debt on the metre which made the previous occupant connect directly while by passing the prepaid metre..

I called a friend who once worked with Nepa and he made findings saying the debt on the metre is 118,000 naira. I got the number of the landlord and decided to put a call to him last December.

He claimed that the house has been on prepaid metre since the erection of the building. And said I should ask Nepa how the debt was accrued..
I agreed with him so I decided to make more findings concerning how debt got on the metre.

During this period, a nepa official came for inspection, he dropped his phone number as I was not at home. I called him and explained everything to him..

He gave me the summary of the transaction which showed that the house owed a debt while on post paid, which was transfered on the prepaid meter when it was installed.
The nepa official indirectly asked me to bribe him so he would leave the metre not disconnected which I didn't oblige to.

He came last week to disconnect the metre and I have called the landlord who refused to find a solution to the problem.

My landlord claims he hasn't lived in the compound for a day and wouldn't be responsible for it. I suggested that I clear the bill and deduct it from my next rent. He refused.

I have been in darkness for over a week now and running on generator without any solution in sight.

What's the best measure I can take towards resolving this issue?
Instead of burning money on darkness or another Man's bill, go solar.
With that approx 120k, you have some panels remaining inverter and battery.
Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by okine4real: 11:43am On Feb 13, 2020
Openedheavens:
I need nairalanders' advice concerning my present predicament.

I rented an apartment late last year and discovered my power wasn't disconnected despite having not made any recharge on the prepaid after 2 weeks.

I called my landlord brother who let the place out to me, to inform him about my findings, but he insisted that I was enjoying the recharge from the previous tenant.

I tried checking the balance through the small box used for recharging but it wasn't connecting and I believed it was a network issue

After about a month, my curiosity heightened and for the fact that I hate to be involved in anything illegal, I decided to make further inquiries concerning the metre.

My neighbor and chief tenant who has been in the house for about 4 years told me that there's debt on the metre which made the previous occupant connect directly while by passing the prepaid metre..

I called a friend who once worked with Nepa and he made findings saying the debt on the metre is 118,000 naira. I got the number of the landlord and decided to put a call to him last December.

He claimed that the house has been on prepaid metre since the erection of the building. And said I should ask Nepa how the debt was accrued..
I agreed with him so I decided to make more findings concerning how debt got on the metre.

During this period, a nepa official came for inspection, he dropped his phone number as I was not at home. I called him and explained everything to him..

He gave me the summary of the transaction which showed that the house owed a debt while on post paid, which was transfered on the prepaid meter when it was installed.
The nepa official indirectly asked me to bribe him so he would leave the metre not disconnected which I didn't oblige to.

He came last week to disconnect the metre and I have called the landlord who refused to find a solution to the problem.

My landlord claims he hasn't lived in the compound for a day and wouldn't be responsible for it. I suggested that I clear the bill and deduct it from my next rent. He refused.

I have been in darkness for over a week now and running on generator without any solution in sight.

What's the best measure I can take towards resolving this issue?



I don't think there is anything you can do, its a normal procedure landlords does now, they will shift the NEPA dept on the prepaid, myself am about doing the same. I have a place here tenants left a bill of 1M for me, I will be going for NEPA dispute resolutions tomorrow, what ever remains from the dept it will share it among the 7 prepaid meterai requested for. There is nothing you are suppose to be worried about, its just a fraction of your current recharge that will always be deducted from you current charge. In the long run you are losing because you are now running on Generator, and you are spending more. So sort it out and allow your family enjoy life so that your kids can watch cartoon.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by Nobody: 11:45am On Feb 13, 2020
Go to the nepa office ask of Hr explain the issue to him, tell him to get you new prepaid meter why the former one account will be traced with the name on it and arrest the person bear the name, if you are not clear call me

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by litaninja(m): 11:47am On Feb 13, 2020
Your stup.idity is highly commendable.
Alitair:
Have you seen how your Over-sabi and Holy holy has attracted a debt to you

A house that is not a virgin house, someone had lived there and for some reasons bypassed the PPM and connected directly. Thy holiness thought it illegal to enjoy light and went ahead to report to PHCN, even when the PHCN staff overlooked you Over sabi and asked for money to correct the fault, you refused and now you are complaining.

As you be Eze-Ego, go and clear the debts na or better yet.... Go and build your house and leave the man's house for him.

You brought this on yourself dear sir so kindly bear the burden.

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by okine4real: 11:51am On Feb 13, 2020
jarkbauer:


Best comment
You can't threaten your landlord, going through that approach will only make ykubget quite notice and also the other tenants getting same, the remaining tenants that are also involved in the case can even be jailed by the landlord. If I where a landlord and you threaten me, bro you and everybody that is involve in prepaid meter bypassing will be jailed by me. Its very certain the landlord is not aware. In mine house, I have told all tenants, once the prepaid meter comes, Know body bypasses. Strictly on prepaid, don't want any tenants causing problems for me in the future

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by goaldynman(m): 11:54am On Feb 13, 2020
EmmanuelCena:
There is two ways to go about this.

First is to oblige and pay off the nepa official
Second is to involve a lawyer.

For the first ,
I think you could save yourself the stress and just pay the nepa guys off.
But have it in mind that this money will not be remitted and will not be tantamount to nepa bill.
Imagine a case where a recebt nepa bill is needed for documentation, you will have no document to show off




Getting a lawyer ....
The judiciary system is slow .....
You may eventually end up running on fuel till your rent expires, and the case will keep on being adjourned.

The case may even be in court even after your rent has expired.

If you signed an agreement in the presence of a lawyer,
You may call the attention of a lawyer.

These house owners are criminals !


So in all, weigh your options and seeks the advice of a lawyer .


Involving a lawyer doesn't necessarily mean going to Court! Lawyers these days are inclined to Alternative Dispute Resolution!

The Op's lawyer can write a threatening letter to his landlord with a view of persuading him to offset the electricity bill from his next rent or refunding the Op's entire current rent!

The Op can as well visit Lagos State Mediation Centres with branches in different districts of Lagos! They will quickly resolve the issue between the Op and his landlord within 2weeks!!

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Re: My Landlord Wants Me To Pay A Debt I Didn't Accrue by goaldynman(m): 11:56am On Feb 13, 2020
EmmanuelCena:
There is two ways to go about this.

First is to oblige and pay off the nepa official
Second is to involve a lawyer.

For the first ,
I think you could save yourself the stress and just pay the nepa guys off.
But have it in mind that this money will not be remitted and will not be tantamount to nepa bill.
Imagine a case where a recebt nepa bill is needed for documentation, you will have no document to show off




Getting a lawyer ....
The judiciary system is slow .....
You may eventually end up running on fuel till your rent expires, and the case will keep on being adjourned.

The case may even be in court even after your rent has expired.

If you signed an agreement in the presence of a lawyer,
You may call the attention of a lawyer.

These house owners are criminals !


So in all, weigh your options and seeks the advice of a lawyer .


Involving a lawyer doesn't necessarily mean going to Court! Lawyers these days are inclined to Alternative Dispute Resolution!

The Op's lawyer can write a threatening letter to his landlord with a view of persuading him to offset the electricity bill from his next rent or refunding the op's entire current rent!

The Op can as well visit Lagos State Mediation Centres with branches in different districts of Lagos!! They will quickly resolve the issue between the Op and his landlord within 2weeks.!!

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