Can the supreme court re-litigate? Why PDP no get sense? Is PDP is trying to push for a re-run? but that too is nonsensical as senator uzodinma has the spread plus the highest number of votes.

Let's watch and see sha...

which spread.
afonjas telling us,what we deserve in our own state kwa
abeg focus on your northern state, and leave Biafra state out of your ill assertion

Impossible......

What people don't understand is that the supreme court cannot relitigate or retry this Imo case again which includes determining the question of whether Hope met the required spread or not. The reason is because

1. The Supreme court is not a trial court

2. Time for trial and calling of expert witnesses who will answer the mathematical question of spread has elapsed even if it wants to answer the question of the spread.

3. Ihedioha and his team had all the opportunity in the world to scrutinize and discountenance Hope Uzodinma result and even go a step further to show that even with his so-called result that he cannot be declared a governor based on his inability to meet the required spread but they didn't do that but was waiting for the courts to descend on the arena to do their job for them.

4. Besides the question of whether Hope Uzodinma met the required spread or not was never an issue at the trial stage and even at the point the supreme court delivered its judgment so could not rule on it,

So, determining the constitutional issue of spread at this stage would involve calling witnesses from both sides which means re-litigating and retrying the matter again.

dlondonbadboy:
Can the supreme court re-litigate? Why PDP no get sense? Is PDP is trying to push for a re-run? but that too is nonsensical as senator uzodinma has the spread plus the highest number of votes.

Let's watch and see sha...

The supreme court cannot re-litigate but it can review and change its decision

dlondonbadboy:
Can the supreme court re-litigate? Why PDP no get sense? Is PDP is trying to push for a re-run? but that too is nonsensical as senator uzodinma has the spread plus the highest number of votes.

Let's watch and see sha...

Uzodinmma had the highest number of votes but not the spread.

gidgiddy:


Uzodinmma had the highest number of votes but not the spread.

He has the spread.

dlondonbadboy:


He has the spread.

He won over 25% in only two local governments. Thats no spread.

gidgiddy:


He won over 25% in only two local governments. Thats no spread.

That was before his unlawfully removed votes were added..

dlondonbadboy:


That was before his unlawfully removed votes were added..

Please which state are you from?

Blackfriday:
Please which state are you from?

Imo

What can lead to review and change of decision in the supreme court is new facts and new evidence that were not presented or were overlooked by the supreme court. One of such facts is the case of over voting after adding the 388 polling unit results and also the case of over voting in some of the 388 poling units Uzodimma is claiming.

dlondonbadboy:


Imo

Okay, now you and I can analyse this situation critically.

All sentiments and party affiliation removed, you really think Hope won the imo gubernatorial election?

PFRB:
What can lead to review and change of decision in the supreme court is new facts and new evidence that were not presented or were overlooked by the supreme court. One of such facts is the case of over voting after adding the 388 polling unit results and also the case of over voting in some of the 388 poling units Uzodimma is claiming.

That were overlooked. And I can assure you, nothing was over-looked.

Blackfriday:
Okay, now you and I can analyse this situation critically.

All sentiments and party affiliation removed, you really think Hope won the imo gubernatorial election?

Yes, I do. Why shouldn't I?

dlondonbadboy:


Yes, I do. Why shouldn't I?

Am sure you don't mean this, we had 5 prominent politicians who fought for Douglas house.

2 from orlu zone (12 lga's) - Nwosu and Hope

2 from okigwe zone (7 lga's) - Ararume and Ohakim

1 from owerri zone (8 lga's) - Ihedioha

You and I know clearly (if you are from imo state) Nwosu won 70% of orlu zone cos of the machinery's of the state government at his disposal (the reason he came second), leaving 25% for Hope (the reason he came a distant 4th, cos he couldn't take orlu which should have been his winning turf) and 5% was shared between Ihedioha (his deputy, a deep orlu man) and Ararume.

Ihedioha swept clean the entire owerri zone cos of believe of the owerri people that it was there time to rule and the misgivings of Rochas to the owerri clan.

Ararume won greater percentage of okigwe but PDP and AA had a good show, winning some lga's.

Where they manufactured the 300+ votes for Hope is what I still can't understand, which lga's, is it orlu which Nwosu clearly won or owerri or okigwe. Face the truth brother, the odds where in Ihedioha's favor and he truly won, so if are talking about spread don't even go there cos Hope did not win up to 9 lga's.

gidgiddy:


The supreme court cannot re-litigate but it can review and change its decision

not change its decision but review based on some very,very strict laid down rules which are wow to achieve

Blackfriday:
Am sure you don't mean this, we had 5 prominent politicians who fought for Douglas house.

2 from orlu zone (12 lga's) - Nwosu and Hope

2 from okigwe zone (7 lga's) - Ararume and Ohakim

1 from owerri zone (8 lga's) - Ihedioha

You and I know clearly (if you are from imo state) Nwosu won 70% of orlu zone cos of the machinery's of the state government at his disposal (the reason he came second), leaving 25% for Hope (the reason he came a distant 4th, cos he couldn't take orlu which should have been his winning turf) and 5% was shared between Ihedioha (his deputy, a deep orlu man) and Ararume.

Ihedioha swept clean the entire owerri zone cos of believe of the owerri people that it was there time to rule and the misgivings of Rochas to the owerri clan.

Ararume won greater percentage of okigwe but PDP and AA had a good show, winning some lga's.

Where they manufactured the 300+ votes for Hope is what I still can't understand, which lga's, is it orlu which Nwosu clearly won or owerri or okigwe. Face the truth brother, the odds where in Ihedioha's favor and he truly won, so if are talking about spread don't even go there cos Hope did not win up to 9 lga's.

dlondonbadboy please respond to this.

Blackfriday:
Am sure you don't mean this, we had 5 prominent politicians who fought for Douglas house.

2 from orlu zone (12 lga's) - Nwosu and Hope

2 from okigwe zone (7 lga's) - Ararume and Ohakim

1 from owerri zone (8 lga's) - Ihedioha

You and I know clearly (if you are from imo state) Nwosu won 70% of orlu zone cos of the machinery's of the state government at his disposal (the reason he came second), leaving 25% for Hope (the reason he came a distant 4th, cos he couldn't take orlu which should have been his winning turf) and 5% was shared between Ihedioha (his deputy, a deep orlu man) and Ararume.

Ihedioha swept clean the entire owerri zone cos of believe of the owerri people that it was there time to rule and the misgivings of Rochas to the owerri clan.

Ararume won greater percentage of okigwe but PDP and AA had a good show, winning some lga's.

Where they manufactured the 300+ votes for Hope is what I still can't understand, which lga's, is it orlu which Nwosu clearly won or owerri or okigwe. Face the truth brother, the odds where in Ihedioha's favor and he truly won, so if are talking about spread don't even go there cos Hope did not win up to 9 lga's.

Are you still doing permutations for elections that is already concluded? I don't understand you o. Imo people voted for Hope, that was why he had the highest number of votes.

The reason we are even debating this is because okorocha and INEC attempted to steal the mandate of Senator Hope, but thank God for the supreme court.

Nobody is arguing the addition of unlawfully removed votes. What the ihedioha is saying is Hope doesn't have the spread...and I'm 100% certain that the governor of imo state won that election with the spread.

If I was Hope uzodinma, I'd Sue INEC for collaborating with some miscreants to steal my mandate..

Dikegodspower:
[s]which spread.
afonjas telling us,what we deserve in our own state kwa
abeg focus on your northern state, and leave Biafra state out of your ill assertion[/s]

Imo is a Nigerian state
Biafra can remain in your imagination

Never.... IMO people have seen hope and in hope they hope to achieve a great development.... Uzondinma one of imo.... Continue your good work...

baralatie:

not change its decision but review based on some very,very strict laid down rules which are wow to achieve

In reviewing its decision, the Supreme Court cannot come across something that is blatantly wrong and uphold it.

There is this claim that despite the 388 polling units awarded Uzodinmma, he did not win the required spread of at least 25 percent of votes in two thirds of the local governments in Imo state

They even say that that Uzodinmma only won at least 25% in only two local governments. If the Supreme court finds this to be true, they are likely to reverse the decision to declare Uzodinmma winner

Blackfriday:
Am sure you don't mean this, we had 5 prominent politicians who fought for Douglas house.

2 from orlu zone (12 lga's) - Nwosu and Hope

2 from okigwe zone (7 lga's) - Ararume and Ohakim

1 from owerri zone (8 lga's) - Ihedioha

You and I know clearly (if you are from imo state) Nwosu won 70% of orlu zone cos of the machinery's of the state government at his disposal (the reason he came second), leaving 25% for Hope (the reason he came a distant 4th, cos he couldn't take orlu which should have been his winning turf) and 5% was shared between Ihedioha (his deputy, a deep orlu man) and Ararume.

Ihedioha swept clean the entire owerri zone cos of believe of the owerri people that it was there time to rule and the misgivings of Rochas to the owerri clan.

Ararume won greater percentage of okigwe but PDP and AA had a good show, winning some lga's.

Where they manufactured the 300+ votes for Hope is what I still can't understand, which lga's, is it orlu which Nwosu clearly won or owerri or okigwe. Face the truth brother, the odds where in Ihedioha's favor and he truly won, so if are talking about spread don't even go there cos Hope did not win up to 9 lga's.

Now, this is how to do analysis, not jumping up and down making useless noise that would not help the person you are supporting. Now I am convinced Uzodinma did not win that election!!!

NothingDoMe:
dlondonbadboy please respond to this.

How can we be doing permutations when the results are already staring at us? Imo people voted massively for Hope Uzodinma, that is why he won the elections.

It is true that some people voted for ihedioha, but majority of the people voted for Hope Uzodinma.

Blackfriday:
Am sure you don't mean this, we had 5 prominent politicians who fought for Douglas house.

2 from orlu zone (12 lga's) - Nwosu and Hope

2 from okigwe zone (7 lga's) - Ararume and Ohakim

1 from owerri zone (8 lga's) - Ihedioha

You and I know clearly (if you are from imo state) Nwosu won 70% of orlu zone cos of the machinery's of the state government at his disposal (the reason he came second), leaving 25% for Hope (the reason he came a distant 4th, cos he couldn't take orlu which should have been his winning turf) and 5% was shared between Ihedioha (his deputy, a deep orlu man) and Ararume.

Ihedioha swept clean the entire owerri zone cos of believe of the owerri people that it was there time to rule and the misgivings of Rochas to the owerri clan.

Ararume won greater percentage of okigwe but PDP and AA had a good show, winning some lga's.

Where they manufactured the 300+ votes for Hope is what I still can't understand, which lga's, is it orlu which Nwosu clearly won or owerri or okigwe. Face the truth brother, the odds where in Ihedioha's favor and he truly won, so if are talking about spread don't even go there cos Hope did not win up to 9 lga's.

Forget that guy,he and Hope are from same Village. Na my guy be that,he knows what he is doing.

What are the chances of a run off election?

dlondonbadboy:


Are you still doing permutations for elections that is already concluded? I don't understand you o. Imo people voted for Hope, that was why he had the highest number of votes.

The reason we are even debating this is because okorocha and INEC attempted to steal the mandate of Senator Hope, but thank God for the supreme court.

Nobody is arguing the addition of unlawfully removed votes. What the ihedioha is saying is Hope doesn't have the spread...and I'm 100% certain that the governor of imo state won that election with the spread.

If I was Hope uzodinma, I'd Sue INEC for collaborating with some miscreants to steal my mandate..

Permutations you say! This is the actual play of the imo gubernatorial election. I had a reason for asking you if you are from imo state, cos I try as much as I can to not wade into discussion as this, cos I don't understand the imo people which voted Hope like you said.

Let me break it down for once again since you can't do it. All of owerri zone (ow. West, ow. North, ow. Municipal, ezinitte, ahiazu, aboh, ikeduru and ngor okpala) all voted for Ihedioha and won by PDP with a very clear margin, do you dispute this? If your answer is no, then you should know the reason for that is not far, if you truly are from imo state.

Ararume won four lga's in okigwe, PDP 2, AA 1, you see I can't see the imo people who voted For Hope and do you the reason PDP took 2 lga I'm okigwe.... I will tell you, cos 80% of them shared the sentiment that it was time for owerri zone to lead the state, they were sympathetic to the zone and see them self having a clear shot at Douglas house after owerri.

Like I said earlier Nwosu won orlu because he had the state arsenal at his disposal, cos ordinary he should be in the fourth position or even worse.... You see am finding it difficult to understand how you will say imo people voted for Hope, if you can me understand, please do.



Now on the position of INEC, please did you ever try to read the transcript on the judgement from the election tribunal to appeal court, none of the 26 ward agents called by Hope where able to prove the results sheet provided by Hope was authentic, NONE, you ask yourself how come with the 300+ for Hope, the tally exceeds number of accredited voters or you should ask yourself did INEC just add the votes of other participants in the election and purposely remove that of Hope?.... Please think and just to be clear INEC did mention that some wards were cancelled due to irregularities and 80% of those wards where in orlu zone, mostly in ohaji/egbema and you I know that is Nwosu stomping ground, so there is no way Hope would have won there... Hope can not just manufacture his own results and expect INEC to just accept it.

On the issue of the SC... It's just laughable at there judgement... The SC by its ruling maintained that Uche Nwosu was the original candidate for the APC and not Hope ( which makes hope not eligible to contest the election) but we still have the same SC pronouncing Hope the winner of the election as the candidate of APC.... Please I want to ask you, do you make any sense in that cos I don't.... Please we should all be ashamed on behalf of our SC this judgement cos all other nations will look at us and very hard at such stupidity.

kahal29:
Impossible......

What people don't understand is that the supreme court cannot relitigate or retry this Imo case again which includes determining the question of whether Hope met the required spread or not. The reason is because

1. The Supreme court is not a trial court

2. Time for trial and calling of expert witnesses who will answer the mathematical question of spread has elapsed even if it wants to answer the question of the spread.

3. Ihedioha and his team had all the opportunity in the world to scrutinize and discountenance Hope Uzodinma result and even go a step further to show that even with his so-called result that he cannot be declared a governor based on his inability to meet the required spread but they didn't do that but was waiting for the courts to descend on the arena to do their job for them.

4. Besides the question of whether Hope Uzodinma met the required spread or not was never an issue at the trial stage and even at the point the supreme court delivered its judgment so could not rule on it,

So, determining the constitutional issue of spread at this stage would involve calling witnesses from both sides which means re-litigating and retrying the matter again.

Here we go again with ignorance. Ever heard of per incuriam and suo moto?
Suo moto means the supreme court is duty bound to consider a constitutional matter whenever it is raised regardless of whether it was raised at trial or not. The reason is because the supreme court is a creation of the constitution and cannot give any ruling outside or against the constitution. Since the issue of spread is a constitutional matter, the supreme court has to resolve it in giving judgement which it failed to do. Hope you get it now?

Agboriotejoye:


Here we go again with ignorance. Ever heard of per incuriam and suo moto?
Suo moto means the supreme court is duty bound to consider a constitutional matter whenever it is raised regardless of whether it was raised at trial or not. The reason is because the supreme court is a creation of the constitution and cannot give any ruling outside or against the constitution. Since the issue of spread is a constitutional matter, the supreme court has to resolve it in giving judgement which it failed to do. Hope you get it now?

We already discussed this na

Blackfriday:
Permutations you say! This is the actual play of the imo gubernatorial election. I had a reason for asking you if you are from imo state, cos I try as much as I can to not wade into discussion as this, cos I don't understand the imo people which voted Hope like you said.

Let me break it down for once again since you can't do it. All of owerri zone (ow. West, ow. North, ow. Municipal, ezinitte, ahiazu, aboh, ikeduru and ngor okpala) all voted for Ihedioha and won by PDP with a very clear margin, do you dispute this? If your answer is no, then you should know the reason for that is not far, if you truly are from imo state.

Ararume won four lga's in okigwe, PDP 2, AA 1, you see I can't see the imo people who voted For Hope and do you the reason PDP took 2 lga I'm okigwe.... I will tell you, cos 80% of them shared the sentiment that it was time for owerri zone to lead the state, they were sympathetic to the zone and see them self having a clear shot at Douglas house after owerri.

Like I said earlier Nwosu won orlu because he had the state arsenal at his disposal, cos ordinary he should be in the fourth position or even worse.... You see am finding it difficult to understand how you will say imo people voted for Hope, if you can me understand, please do.



Now on the position of INEC, please did you ever try to read the transcript on the judgement from the election tribunal to appeal court, none of the 26 ward agents called by Hope where able to prove the results sheet provided by Hope was authentic, NONE, you ask yourself how come with the 300+ for Hope, the tally exceeds number of accredited voters or you should ask yourself did INEC just add the votes of other participants in the election and purposely remove that of Hope?.... Please think and just to be clear INEC did mention that some wards were cancelled due to irregularities and 80% of those wards where in orlu zone, mostly in ohaji/egbema and you I know that is Nwosu stomping ground, so there is no way Hope would have won there... Hope can not just manufacture his own results and expect INEC to just accept it.

On the issue of the SC... It's just laughable at there judgement... The SC by its ruling maintained that Uche Nwosu was the original candidate for the APC and not Hope ( which makes hope not eligible to contest the election) but we still have the same SC pronouncing Hope the winner of the election as the candidate of APC.... Please I want to ask you, do you make any sense in that cos I don't.... Please we should all be ashamed on behalf of our SC this judgement cos all other nations will look at us and very hard at such stupidity.

All the major candidates wrote results but hope outsmarted them.simple as that

Dansuqi:

All the major candidates wrote results but hope outsmarted them.simple as that

I will agree with you cos am sure no politician in Nigeria has won any election purely on merit but believe me Hope isn't smart.... Let's all wait till March.

Blackfriday:
I will agree with you cos am sure no politician in Nigeria has won any election purely on merit but believe me Hope isn't smart.... Let's all wait till March.

Hope is legally and electorally smart thats why he usually wins orlu senate.he couldn't get inec to endorse his handwritten results like ihedioha so he used the courts

Dansuqi:

Hope is legally and electorally smart thats why he usually wins orlu senate.he couldn't get inec to endorse his handwritten results like ihedioha so he used the courts

well that is why i said we should wait till March.... The evidence before the SC is too compelling, it's just too obvious, so until the SC uphold or retract their judgement, we can then conclude Hope is smart.

It's a 50/50 chance for both candidate.