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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by executive12: 7:31am On Feb 24, 2020
Azmanaty:


Mr stop lying. Mercedes never said such.

They may not have said so explicitly, but that is the situation on ground. Mercedes is a luxury brand. You and I should know that a luxury brand cannot be for everyone. Same for BMW and Audi.

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by executive12: 7:37am On Feb 24, 2020
Kay25:
Mercedes are ever classic cars they are stronger and reliable than Toyota though Toyota too is good but when it comes to luxury and comfort with strength let me use that give it to benz.benz are machines oo not juSt motor.

Toyota cars are more reliable. I hope you understand what reliability of a car means. Your Mercedes is more likely to break down than your Toyota. Part of the reason is that Mercedes brands are more high tech and hence more susceptible to developing faults.

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by Reference(m): 7:39am On Feb 24, 2020
My principle of life is that you can only be truly successful if you make others successful. In business terms it means lifting the lowly by products and services. In that light exclusivity is a no no. Logically looking at the most successful companies and the richest CEO's right now, the goods and services they offer apply to the widest demographic possible.

Starting in Nigeria. Dangote is where he is because his products are used universally throughout every demographic in Nigeria. He simply cannot have a bad day. In the world Jeff Bezos just sells stuff online. Stuff everyone, the rich, the poor uses. He cannot have a bad day. Both these men and a lot more have a choice of selling diamonds, gold, private jets and yatchs, trading futures or multi-million dollar paintings but folks who do these are barely successful and are always at the edge of financial peril.

There was a time a certain Dan Kabo and Dangote were somewhat at par in financial muscle. One chose to put a fortune into an airline, the other into his first cement plant. Today the difference is clear.

Toyota is and will always be a more successful company as long as the taxi driver, student, pool manager, trader, housewife simply cannot afford to own and maintain an average Mercedes Benz model... simply because that demographic is a lot more.

The bible says, 'the poor will always be amongst you'. This is a secret statement to the business world. You simply cannot avoid being super successful and super rich if you serve the poor and lowly.

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by adanny01(m): 7:45am On Feb 24, 2020
Kingpele:
grin it is laziness or petty to compare two separate companies that are trying to sell their products... But it all depends on choice and experience, I have used toyota which was very cool but when I got hold of Benz, I knew I will never let go of this people

Its is also laziness for a teacher to set exams just to test students and compare them.

Do employers just depend on choice when students graduate?

I love the Benz, its design is aesthetically better than Toyota almost everytime. It performs better most of the time. But when the it falls behind the Toyota in reliability and efficiency, the buck comes down to comparison score points. When you compare what majority of car owners want in a car and what a car brand offers, some Toyota will beat some Mercedes and vice versa.

This generalization that Mercedes or Toyota is a better car is actually a very terrible thing to say or think.

Every one knows that when you say Hybrid car the Prius comes to mind but is it the best Hybrid in town? I just read a comparison that the Honda Insight beats the Toyota Prius in so many ways, but the fact is that the Honda didn't beat the Prius in the mileage category nor the range category. It beat the Prius because it did consistently well in every category which summed up to be a better car in the overall.

For example, the Prius is a 53mpg city/52mpg hwy/52mpg avg while the Insight was 56mpg city/49mpg hwy/52mpg avg. Everone also knows that the wackiest Toyota design so far is the current Prius. The writer made a comment i burst into laughter, "the wacky Prius design makes the Pontiac Aztec look good".

I really do not like the way Nigerians compare cars, we do so without any fact or basis of comparison.

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by KINGreignn: 7:45am On Feb 24, 2020
louiziana:


Maybach is too high, I don't think any toyota car matches a McLaren.

In a bid to discredit Toyota by bringing Mclaren, you shot yourself in the foot. Mclaren is NOT owned by Daimler AG. It's a very different and independent car maker. In fact, it's not a German car company, but a British. Next time research before embarrassing yourself with fallacies.

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by louiziana(m): 7:46am On Feb 24, 2020
LordAzubuike:
Toyota is a far better and more valuable brand.

Benz is only for people who wants to have a taste of luxury but can't afford it. Benz is a poor man's luxury. I was utterly shocked when someone was telling me benz is a far better luxury maker than Audi and BMW. Nothing wey man no go hear from these die hard Benz fans.

executive12

Ever heard of Brabus? Mention just one Toyota model that matches it. Sigh!

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by louiziana(m): 7:48am On Feb 24, 2020
godofuck231:
mainene?

That's where I heard those words a long time ago: No matter how the wind holds, abi blows, the mountain can not bow to it.

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by unimagin: 7:48am On Feb 24, 2020
Mercedes na scam when it comes to price. There is nothing a 2020 Mercedes C class can do that 2020 Camry cannot do. But check price difference and u understand the scam. Please don't talk of any luxury Mercedes offers, Mercedes is e REGULAR car company like TOYOTA. If u really want to talk about luxury, go for Ferraris, Bugattis, Lamborghinis etc these are luxurious cars not Mercedes

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by jokerr(m): 7:49am On Feb 24, 2020
maynation:
Immediately I saw the headline something already told me whom the OP would be and I wasn't wrong. grin
Smartchoiice Saanu.

You know I have always been wondering if Lexus was a subsidiary brand of Mercedes but you actually addressed what they are to Mercedes. Nice.

I think the only edge Mercedes has over Toyota is durability, but who cares? Who prays to use a car that long like the case of Benz 190?

You likened Mercedes-Toyota to Iphone-Infinix/Tecno? That is a joke, the difference ain't that much.
you obviously don't know cars then

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by Openbusiness: 7:49am On Feb 24, 2020
executive12:
No basis for comparison. Their target markets are different. Mercedes is a luxury brand. Toyota is not.
But generally, in terms of reliability, Toyota leads. In terms of performance, Mercedes leads.
For a country like Nigeria with extremely bad roads, Mercedes brands are more suitable. Camry, the most popular Toyota brand, is very popular among Nigerians. But I don't think Camry cars are suitable for Nigerian roads; usually too low to the ground, weak suspension. But they are excellent cars in countries with decent roads like the US.

In summary, in the US, for everyday driving, I will pick a Toyota brand, preferably a Lexus. In Nigeria, I pick a Mercedes.

That's the MYTH people jump on, that they use to deceive them, the MYTH that Toyota is MORE RELIABLE than Benz. Truth is no Toyota product is "More Reliable" than Benz. Let's not even go far, let's just use our own society as an example. Let's take lagos, do you know how many Toyota cars break down on the road every day? A lot. Go to mechanic workshops all over lagos, it's usually full of broken down toyota cars having one problem or another they are fixing. It's so bad that the average lagos mechanic learnt mechanic work with Toyota (or Honda) and it shows how unreliable they are. So there's no doubt about it that Toyota's are unreliable. The average Toyota engine shorts oil by default, you always have to top up with oil or else you risk having an engine knock. There are so many defects here and there, but do you know why people actually still rush it? It boils down to money. Toyota's break down a lot, but they are "cheaper" to fix, the average mechanics here know how to repair is because it has very little complicated technology, so they don't need to be intelligent to fix it, even a dullard mechanic can still fix a Toyota (for example, if Buhari was a mechanic, pretty sure he will be a Toyota mechanic, he can never be a Benz mechanic because only intelligent people with high IQ can be a Benz mechanic without destroying the car cheesy) Toyota parts are cheaper to buy because it's an Asian product, and the Chinese are able to fabricate those parts easily. Do you think it is easy or cheap for them to fabricate parts for Benz products? No, it's not. Takes a lot of experience, expertise, equipment and funding. Any average Chinese parts manufacturer can make Toyota parts, but check those making Benz parts, it can only be the top giant manufacturers. If those average Chinese parts manufacturer try it, they will most likely make substandard and fake parts that are either defective, fail or don't work at all. So everything boils down to money. Our people here rush Toyota because it's easier (every Tom, Dick and road side mechanic can fix it) and cheaper to fix, not because they don't break down because they break down a lot. They break down, they spend not so much and it's back on the road again. But Benz is actually more reliable, because they don’t break down so easily. But when they do, they will cost you "more money" to fix. More money not just in terms of parts alone, but in terms of getting the mechanic with the expertise to fix it, and Benz mechanics (the capable ones) are not cheap, remember these guys are the mechanics that are intelligent and have high IQ, so they know their worth and they charge their worth. So a Benz breaks down, and they do diagnosis, they cost the repair at maybe N120k and the broke owner shouts yay! N120k, I don’t have o, I have N40k, and the Benz mechanic says sorry, it can't be fixed at 40k, we have to replace this or that, do this or that. So the broke owner drives away or tows his car back or abandons it there and then goes around telling people that Benz is not reliable. No the Benz is reliable, but he just can't afford the maintenance. Which still boils down to money. So for me, if you're not a comfortable millionaire, you have no business with Benz unless you're a mechanic yourself with sound experience in repairing it, so you can DIY when it needs repairs and save costs. But Toyota is cheaper to fix and get back on the road again, that why most people tend not to notice the number of times they actually break down. They break down a lot!

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by jokerr(m): 7:50am On Feb 24, 2020
unimagin:
Mercedes na scam when it comes to price. There is nothing a 2020 Mercedes C class can do that 2020 Camry cannot do. But check price difference and u understand the scam. Please don't talk of any luxury Mercedes offers, Mercedes is e REGULAR car company like TOYOTA. If u really want to talk about luxury, go for Ferraris, Bugattis, Lamborghinis etc these are luxurious cars not Mercedes
drive both first then u will know the difference

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by sniperr007(m): 7:51am On Feb 24, 2020
Smartchoiice:
The problem is that people tend to think Mercedes Benz makes only cars like Toyota.... They forget that Marco Polo luxurious buses, trucks which are die hard vehicles and second to none in reliability are also signature makes of Mercedes Benz.


Even Lexus was a pure plagiarism of the Mercedes Benz.

Yes some brands of Mercedes Benz has issues....but true the Toyota Camry muscle is plagued with a factory error of oil consumption that is incurable!! The Camry muscle melting dashboards, the Camry muscle independent acceleration without the input of the driver....

I can go on and on... The Toyota Corolla is no match for the Mercedes Benz W202 C klasse... In any form..the W202 C klasse wins ...
A. Fuel economy tie.
B. Thieves follow the Toyota Corolla
C. Parts replacement is waayyy cheaper on the Mercedes W202...

No, Toyota is not better than Mercedes, and anyone who claims that is delusional.

Finally the Mercedes Benz Maybach is something no Toyota/Lexus can ever compete with in triple lifetimes!!


Mercedes= iPhone
Toyota=Tecno/Infinix

End of discussion.

Who offend you?
Why you come bring Infinix join this conversation?
Not cool man grin grin
Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by maynation(f): 7:51am On Feb 24, 2020
Openbusiness:


Toyota has sold more camry's because it is much more cheaper. Toyota is cheaper to buy that's why people mostly buy it. It's a case of money. Most people that buy Toyota's are middle-class and low-income earners. You have to be wealthy to be able to buy a Benz. How much is a brand new 2020 camry? About $27k msrp, and by the time you add all the options, it can't be up to $40k. An equivalent sedan to the camry would be the E-class. Do you know how much a brand new 2020 E-class is? MSRP for a base trim Benz E350 is around $54k, and now if you decide to go up the E-class ladder and get the AMG variants like the E63 AMG, then you're looking at around $110k MSRP alone, not to mention when you start adding options. Mercedes-Benz is not a car for the middle-class or poor. Only the rich can afford to buy it new, and then you talk of maintenance, of course it's more expensive to maintain than Toyota because it has more luxury technology than Toyota. Mercedes-Benz will always be GREATER than Toyota. You can only be comparing the likes of the Land Rover with a Benz. It is mostly poor people and broke-ass people that own Toyota. Keyword "mostly" .

Have you seen people that drive Honda??
Common stop this already.

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by sniperr007(m): 7:52am On Feb 24, 2020
Smartchoiice:
The problem is that people tend to think Mercedes Benz makes only cars like Toyota.... They forget that Marco Polo luxurious buses, trucks which are die hard vehicles and second to none in reliability are also signature makes of Mercedes Benz.


Even Lexus was a pure plagiarism of the Mercedes Benz.

Yes some brands of Mercedes Benz has issues....but true the Toyota Camry muscle is plagued with a factory error of oil consumption that is incurable!! The Camry muscle melting dashboards, the Camry muscle independent acceleration without the input of the driver....

I can go on and on... The Toyota Corolla is no match for the Mercedes Benz W202 C klasse... In any form..the W202 C klasse wins ...
A. Fuel economy tie.
B. Thieves follow the Toyota Corolla
C. Parts replacement is waayyy cheaper on the Mercedes W202...

No, Toyota is not better than Mercedes, and anyone who claims that is delusional.

Finally the Mercedes Benz Maybach is something no Toyota/Lexus can ever compete with in triple lifetimes!!


Mercedes= iPhone
Toyota=Tecno/Infinix

End of discussion.

Who offend you?
Why you come bring Infinix join this conversation?
No cool man

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by joyandfaith: 7:53am On Feb 24, 2020
Smartchoiice:
The problem is that people tend to think Mercedes Benz makes only cars like Toyota.... They forget that Marco Polo luxurious buses, trucks which are die hard vehicles and second to none in reliability are also signature makes of Mercedes Benz.


Even Lexus was a pure plagiarism of the Mercedes Benz.

Yes some brands of Mercedes Benz has issues....but true the Toyota Camry muscle is plagued with a factory error of oil consumption that is incurable!! The Camry muscle melting dashboards, the Camry muscle independent acceleration without the input of the driver....

I can go on and on... The Toyota Corolla is no match for the Mercedes Benz W202 C klasse... In any form..the W202 C klasse wins ...
A. Fuel economy tie.
B. Thieves follow the Toyota Corolla
C. Parts replacement is waayyy cheaper on the Mercedes W202...

No, Toyota is not better than Mercedes, and anyone who claims that is delusional.

Finally the Mercedes Benz Maybach is something no Toyota/Lexus can ever compete with in triple lifetimes!!


Mercedes= iPhone
Toyota=Tecno/Infinix

End of discussion.

Mercedes= iPhone
Toyota=Samsung
Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by louiziana(m): 7:53am On Feb 24, 2020
KINGreignn:


In a bid to discredit Toyota by bringing Mclaren, you shot yourself in the foot. Mclaren is NOT owned by Daimler AG. It's a very different and independent car maker. In fact, it's not a German car company, but a British. Next time research before embarrassing yourself with fallacies.

Okay I don learn, and I don't feel embarrassed. Guess u own a Toyota lol. I had an accident in a Corolla sport last year and the car was written off, my only joy be say I no die but the car can't move until this day, it was sold as scrap last last. Engine and every important component scatter.

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by jokerr(m): 7:54am On Feb 24, 2020
executive12:


Toyota cars are more reliable. I hope you understand what reliability of a car means. Your Mercedes is more likely to break down than your Toyota. Part of the reason is that Mercedes brands are more high tech and hence more susceptible to developing faults.
how come I see more toyotas in the workshops compared to Mercedes? , from my own experience Benz is more reliable on our Nigerian roads

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by maynation(f): 7:55am On Feb 24, 2020
jokerr:
you obviously don't know cars then
Yeah, I don't know cars but I know my car.
Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by Nobody: 7:55am On Feb 24, 2020
joyandfaith:


Mercedes= iPhone
Toyota=Samsung
If you want it that close.... I can't argue with your choice
Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by Butoneday2(m): 7:56am On Feb 24, 2020
godofuck231:
stop praising your toyota because you haven't experienced the power and performance of a Mercedes-Benz, most of the tech used in other brands were hatched in Mercedes-Benz plants, when you have driven a Mercedes-Benz for 6 months going back to your toyota would be a night mare
I'm not a Toyota fan, just wonder why you're speaking in proverbs. That's all no offence.
Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by seanwilliam(m): 7:57am On Feb 24, 2020
louiziana:


Ever heard of Brabus? Mention just one Toyota model that matches it. Sigh!
you are very wicked.. haba..

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by godofuck231: 7:57am On Feb 24, 2020
louiziana:


That's where I heard those words a long time ago: No matter how the wind holds, abi blows, the mountain can not bow to it.
OK learn this also :
The day your horse dies and your money's gone, your relatives
change into strangers.

check it out on mullan

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by jokerr(m): 7:57am On Feb 24, 2020
joyandfaith:

Toyota=Samsung
Mercedes=iPhone

Mercedes =iphone/Samsung
Toyota = infinix/tecno
Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by Nobody: 7:58am On Feb 24, 2020
unimagin:
Mercedes na scam when it comes to price. There is nothing a 2020 Mercedes C class can do that 2020 Camry cannot do. But check price difference and u understand the scam. Please don't talk of any luxury Mercedes offers, Mercedes is e REGULAR car company like TOYOTA. If u really want to talk about luxury, go for Ferraris, Bugattis, Lamborghinis etc these are luxurious cars not Mercedes
Peeping from the Brabus at the Maybach. You said what again?

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by KINGreignn: 7:58am On Feb 24, 2020
Smartchoiice:

Shuush I can't fight any agbero.... We have not even mentioned the Mercedes Benz luxury arm the Mercedes Maybach.
Your obsession for Toyota won't take you anywhere. You've continued to bring out fallacies about Toyota and continued to hype Daimler AG which even the Executives and workers of Daimler AG will become embarrassed and ashamed. Toyota is a more valuable company, a richer company, a more successful company. Is Daimler AG on the fortune 500 list?


Read thru the links provided pls. it will help you understand
1. https://googleweblight.com/i?u=https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/249724-tesla-overtakes-bmw-toyota-daimler-vw-higher-total-market-value&hl=en-NG

2. https://money.usnews.com/investing/slideshows/the-10-most-valuable-auto-companies-in-the-world?slide=11

3. https://www.autonews.com/article/20180528/COPY01/305289981/toyota-still-no-1-mercedes-passes-bmw-for-no-2-in-ranking-of-most-valuable-car-brands

4. https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleantechnica.com/2018/12/10/doctor-checkup-10-auto-companies-with-largest-market-cap/amp/

Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by Openbusiness: 7:58am On Feb 24, 2020
unimagin:
Mercedes na scam when it comes to price. [s]There is nothing a 2020 Mercedes C class can do that 2020 Camry cannot do[/s]. But check price difference and u understand the scam. Please don't talk of any luxury Mercedes offers, Mercedes is e REGULAR car company like TOYOTA. If u really want to talk about luxury, go for Ferraris, Bugattis, Lamborghinis etc these are luxurious cars not Mercedes
The proper thing for you to say is There's nothing a full options 2020 Camry can do that a full options 2010 Benz E350 cannot do! Toyota is the real scam! An OVER-PRICED SCAM! Can you imagine them wanting to selling a used 10th body, 15 owners, 350k miles rolled back 5 times to 75k miles, 2003 corolla for 1.2m? Is that not a big SCAM cheesy

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by Nobody: 7:59am On Feb 24, 2020
KINGreignn:

Your obsession for Toyota won't take you anywhere. You've continued to bring out fallacies about Toyota and continued to hype Daimler AG which even the Executives and workers of Daimler AG will become embarrassed and ashamed. Toyota is a more valuable company, a richer company, a more successful company. Is Daimler AG on the fortune 500 list?


Read thru the links provided pls. it will help you understand
1. https://googleweblight.com/i?u=https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/249724-tesla-overtakes-bmw-toyota-daimler-vw-higher-total-market-value&hl=en-NG

2. https://money.usnews.com/investing/slideshows/the-10-most-valuable-auto-companies-in-the-world?slide=11

3. https://www.autonews.com/article/20180528/COPY01/305289981/toyota-still-no-1-mercedes-passes-bmw-for-no-2-in-ranking-of-most-valuable-car-brands

4. https://www.google.com/amp/s/cleantechnica.com/2018/12/10/doctor-checkup-10-auto-companies-with-largest-market-cap/amp/

Loads of horseshit again.... See what I see when I look back at my parked Mercedes Benz

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by joyandfaith: 8:00am On Feb 24, 2020
jokerr:
Mercedes =iphone/Samsung Toyota = infinix/tecno
you are a joker. no point arguing with a comedian
Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by louiziana(m): 8:00am On Feb 24, 2020
seanwilliam:
you are very wicked.. haba..
Bros I no wicked oh, them wan dey argue about luxury.
Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by Nobody: 8:01am On Feb 24, 2020
Openbusiness:

The proper thing for you to say is There's nothing a full options 2020 Camry can do that a full options 2010 Benz E350 cannot do! Toyota is the real scam! An OVER-PRICED SCAM! Can you imagine them wanting to selling a used 10th body, 15 owners, 350k miles rolled back 5 times to 75k miles, 2003 corolla for 1.2m? Is that not a big SCAM cheesy

Well said. What this 1997-2002 Mercedes Benz will do no 2002- 2012 Camry will dare

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Re: Is Toyota A Better Company Than Mercedes? by KINGreignn: 8:02am On Feb 24, 2020
louiziana:


Ever heard of Brabus? Mention just one Toyota model that matches it. Sigh!
Again, you're all over the place spewing trash. Brains isn't owned by Daimler AG, it's an independent tuner that tunes vehicle primarily Benz. But they tune other cars. Learn to read before opening your mouth to spew out trash.

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