Commentor:


What momentum are you talking about?

In 1983, when the military took over Nigeria was at its worst ever.

From the New York Times of May, 1983:

The most recent figures for Nigeria's cash reserves, for January of this year, were $1.3 billion - enough to finance only about a month of imports - and some analysts believe that reserves have dwindled to virtually nothing in the few months since then. Different Approaches


https://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/02/business/nigeria-faces-debt-problems.html

New York times '83 report was different from how government impacted on lives of average Nigerians then.
As bad as it was, Nigerians bought mainly mint cars and can get on hire purchase, no state government was owning salaries, luncheon vouchers and travellers cheques were recognised form of payment,an average Nigerian can afford basic food needs like milk,geisha,sardine etc without breaking sweat, public schools with expatriate teachers etc

True that Nigeria was gradually sliding, but the military coming on board to manage state affairs speed up the slid.

What the military stole in 4 months was more than what was stolen in 4 years of Shagari democratic rule.

Prof. Ambrose Ali,4 yrs governor of Edo and Delta state of today,was imprisoned on allegation of stealing 100 hundred thousand naira,with condition to get his freedom on payback. He remained imprisoned because he could not afford it until Chief igbinedion made the payment to bring the sick Baba out

Corruption was the reason the military said they struck. Can you now imagine what the military said a former governor stole? Nissan bluebird saloon car of that time was 10,000.

We lived in this country then,don't use New York Times to tell us how governance was and how it impacted our lives in 4 yrs of Second Republic

Davash222:
The percentage of illiterates in America is higher than what we have in Nigeria.
Some of them still think Africa is a country. Their ignorance is top notch.
An average Nigerian can name Capitals of most countries but ask an American or European capital of some American or European countries, then you'll understand my point.
Ignorant fools!!

When papa get billions, wetin consyn you and gateman cousin name?

Korllami007:


Guy, you don't get it. He's trying to defend buhari, his God that never made any mistake and will never make any mistake. Stop wasting your time.

I tell you bro

tommy589:


New York times '83 report was different from how government impacted on lives of average Nigerians then.
As bad as it was, Nigerians bought mainly mint cars and can get on hire purchase, no state government was owning salaries, luncheon vouchers and travellers cheques were recognised form of payment,an average Nigerian can afford basic food needs like milk,geisha,sardine etc without breaking sweat, public schools with expatriate teachers etc

help me tell commentor...he has just been commenting rubbish here since

tommy589:


New York times '83 report was different from how government impacted on lives of average Nigerians then.
As bad as it was, Nigerians bought mainly mint cars and can get on hire purchase, no state government was owning salaries, luncheon vouchers and travellers cheques were recognised form of payment,an average Nigerian can afford basic food needs like milk,geisha,sardine etc without breaking sweat, public schools with expatriate teachers etc

You mean the elites in the cities.

How many mint cars were bought in Nkpor or Ekpoma?

selemempe:
help me tell commentor...he has just been commenting rubbish here since

I saw 1983, even as a child.

There are more people in middle class today than back then.

Ajegunle was a complete pig sty and telephones were for the rich.

There was no Magodo, Egbeda, Lekki or Ajah.

So what exactly is your point?

selemempe:
lol... developed countries are too busy doing them to care a shít about what you are doing in your own country

Most Americans have never left America because really what is out there that ain't in America?

Nigeria could have been like that too if the momentum of the 70s were maintained by buhari, Abacha and ibb...the three menaces that killed Nigeria

Sad is that one of them is still calling the shot today because some people felt 'marginalised' by PDP

Most people from Botswana, Namibia and SA have also not bothered about any other countries...they are busy developing their space.

We can't even get basic legislations like state police passed because some people are afraid they can no longer do any how in the south...sad

Still doesn't change the fact that most of them are bunch of illiterates. Remove America from them, they are as useless as bitter Kola tree!

amarachi06:
Coming from niggas who believe they are the world best.
They should ask CRV why he follows him.

CR7

It's not everybody that will know you nah, some people are just ignorant.

Commentor:


I saw 1983, even as a child.

There are more people in middle class today than back then.

Ajegunle was a complete pig sty and telephones were for the rich.

There was no Magodo, Egbeda, Lekki or Ajah.

So what exactly is your point?

my point is that public sector has collapsed and has made most Nigerians to turn to self help including trooping to every country out there as economic migrants

Compare that to the 70s when most Nigerians out there were coming back from abroad to take up jobs here.

And my point is that that wouldn't have been the case if public sector was not set in a downward spiral by successive military regimes who spent years as state sole administrators without any projects to their name while their civilian counterpart in the shagari era were creating legacies

selemempe:
my point is that public sector has collapsed and has made most Nigerians to turn to self help including trooping to every country out there as economic migrants

Compare that to the 70s when most Nigerians out there were coming back from abroad to take up jobs here.

And my point is that that wouldn't have been the case if public sector was not set in a downward spiral by successive military regimes who spent years as state sole administrators without any projects to their name while their civilian counterpart in the shagari era were creating legacies

I gave you a 1983 report on the state of the nation.

Nothing has changed.

Nigerians are still corrupt and looking for the bogey man when the bogey man could be found in their mirror.

Commentor:


I gave you a 1983 report on the state of the nation.

Nothing has changed.

Nigerians are still corrupt and looking for the bogey man when the bogey man could be found in their mirror.

that justifies the crime of the 1983 coup? Wow. What did the coup achieve?

selemempe:
that justifies the crime of the 1983 coup? Wow. What did the coup achieve?

The coup was not the first in Nigeria, why you pick on that one shows some hypocrisy I must say.

The truth nobody know davido in America. Only Nigerians living there

Davash222:
The percentage of illiterates in America is higher than what we have in Nigeria.
Some of them still think Africa is a country. Their ignorance is top notch.
An average Nigerian can name Capitals of most countries but ask an American or European capital of some American or European countries, then you'll understand my point.
Ignorant fools!!

Black Americans especially, that's why they populate their jails
They are only good at forming thug life and selling drugs on street.

Is it normal?

This is quite humiliating. with such overwhelming stat on IG. perhaps, they are surprised. But one thing about these Americans is that they don't think or search beyond their scope. they are clouded with things happening around them. but a Nigerian will tell you the profile of an upcoming star in America. it's high time these people start seeing Africa as a continent and not a country. fooools. but then I will gladly accept their visa if given. who wants to stay in this shithole country anyway.

echibuogwu:
You are the illiterate here for spilling this nonsense

I'm sorry to say you're the illiterate here, what he said is the truth

selemempe:
lol... developed countries are too busy doing them to care a shít about what you are doing in your own country

Most Americans have never left America because really what is out there that ain't in America?

Nigeria could have been like that too if the momentum of the 70s were maintained by buhari, Abacha and ibb...the three menaces that killed Nigeria

Sad is that one of them is still calling the shot today because some people felt 'marginalised' by PDP

Most people from Botswana, Namibia and SA have also not bothered about any other countries...they are busy developing their space.

We can't even get basic legislations like state police passed because some people are afraid they can no longer do any how in the south...sad

Exactly my thought. He thinks not knowing Davido makes him an illiterate. We're the ones running after them

Commentor:


The coup was not the first in Nigeria, why you pick on that one shows some hypocrisy I must say.

no...I hate the first one even more and happy Nzeogwu died for his part in it.

The question is why do people like you condemn the first coup and praise the second

The hypocrisy is solely on your door step

selemempe:
no...I hate the first one even more and happy Nzeogwu died for his part in it.

The question is why do people like you condemn the first coup and praise the second

The hypocrisy is solely on your door step

I have never made any reference to that coup but more than anything that's the one that got the ball rolling.

Commentor:


I have never made any reference to that coup but more than anything that's the one that got the ball rolling.

bro... you are really dull. I said if the momentum of the 70s were maintained and you jumped on my mention

Did you hear me praise the 60s... you just ridiculous. Anybody who followed our argument will know you lost the plot a long time ago

selemempe:
bro... you are really dull. I said if the momentum of the 70s were maintained and you jumped on my mention

Did you hear me praise the 60s... you just ridiculous. Anybody who followed our argument will know you lost the plot a long time ago

Why are you picking and selecting?

Hypocrite.

Davash222:
The percentage of illiterates in America is higher than what we have in Nigeria.
Some of them still think Africa is a country. Their ignorance is top notch.
An average Nigerian can name Capitals of most countries but ask an American or European capital of some American or European countries, then you'll understand my point.
Ignorant fools!!

Illiterate because dem no sabi Davido.

I can name ten American musicians I'm sure you've never heard of.

selemempe:
you still don't get the point...I wrote in my first post that the momentum of the 70s were not maintained by buhari, ibb and Abacha....I don't care who started the momentum...but I am sure that had it been maintained by these three in the 80s and 90s or had they left shagari alone, we won't be this bad now

if shagari had been left alone, poverty would have been an eldorado to what would have happened to Nigeria as his administration, just like GEJ's, had squandered the oil windfalls and the gains of the 70s , only to push the consequences of their indiscipline called austerity which Okonjo iweala captured not too long as recession on poor Nigerians. Nigeria was already in pains ,which led to Ghana- must -go among others , by the time Buhari came to resque the nation. But the hawks through IBB took over and unleash hell on Nigeria till 1999.
30 years later, after 16 years of fraud by the modern day NPN called PDP, it was Buhari that history beckoned to come save us again. @$120/ barrel of oil what did we get except lies which became too evident to deny when oil crashed to $30/barrel before we pushed the political robbers away once again to pave way for Buhari.

So what exactly are you saying?

Then u are more foolish than him, he said an average Nigerian knows the capital of most countries.., like seriously And he said there are more illiterates in US than in Nigeria... u honestly must be the most foolish Nigerian.

sparog:


I'm sorry to say you're the illiterate here, what he said is the truth

selemempe:
lol... developed countries are too busy doing them to care a shít about what you are doing in your own country

Most Americans have never left America because really what is out there that ain't in America?

Nigeria could have been like that too if the momentum of the 70s were maintained by buhari, Abacha and ibb...the three menaces that killed Nigeria

Sad is that one of them is still calling the shot today because some people felt 'marginalised' by PDP

Most people from Botswana, Namibia and SA have also not bothered about any other countries...they are busy developing their space.

We can't even get basic legislations like state police passed because some people are afraid they can no longer do any how in the south...sad

Knowing artistes has nothing to do with who is developed or not.

The same Davido, if you go to the UK, is widely known, are they not developed?

Do you know how many Nigerians know of SA artistes like Sho Madjozi? Not many. Vanessa Mdee that is big in East Africa, came to Nigeria two years ago and Nigerians didn't know who she was. If not for his collab with Flavor, Patoranking and many Nigerian acts, most Nigerians wouldn't even know who Diamond is. Does this make Nigeria a developed country?

Development has nothing to do with knowing artistes from other climes, that has to do with EXPOSURE. Some people are exposed to different sounds from different countries, they are well versed in anything, while some others, are arrogantly ignorant, perhaps, that is why the Brits loathe the average American.

This thing Americans did with Davido, is what most Nigerians do when you mention any African act outside Nigeria, because they don't listen to them. It is ignorance, and it is nothing to take pride in.

BTW: Most people from Namibia, Botswana and SA can name 10 Nigerian artistes, go and ask Nigerians to name three acts from any of those countries, then come back and propound this your theory

I will not even address the political coloring you gave such a thread, but know that this your post is just as ignorant as those Americans.

Stillthebest:



Still doesn't change the fact that most of them are bunch of illiterates. Remove America from them, they are as useless as bitter Kola tree!

you are using the wrong term

An illiterate is someone who has no formal education. Most Americans have formal education (don't let their jacked up English fool you)

What Americans are, is ignorant. This is a generally known fact, virtually every nation knows Americans are blissfully ignorant, and anyone who argues this fact,is ignorant as well

Kingrexyl:
It's not everybody that will know you nah, some people are just ignorant.

thank you, you get it

If I ask some people to name two Korean artistes, will they know them? Because KPop isn't big here, Nigerians are generally ignorant of the song, does this mean Nigeria is a developed nation or better than Korea?

You are only as famous as your reach, and Davido's music precedes him.

If you mention "The artiste that sang Fall" they will know him, because of the song, but they might not know the name Davido.

What selemempe said has no place on this thread, ideally.

safarigirl:
you are using the wrong term

An illiterate is someone who has no formal education. Most Americans have formal education (don't let their jacked up English fool you)

What Americans are, is ignorant. This is a generally known fact, virtually every nation knows Americans are blissfully ignorant, and anyone who argues this fact,is ignorant as well

Ass licking raise to power 100000