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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by truthbetold22: 8:54am On Feb 28, 2020
Trippledots:


Smh.... Inverter mode on TV is just an option bro, there is a reason it has its normal mode and wasn't made solely on inverter mode.

You actually are beginning to sound like you have a "suffer suffer" mentality oh....na wa sha.

Fool, your tv brightness only reduces a little and u save energy... What point are you trying to make exactly because you lost me here.. that you won’t enjoy ur tv on energy saving mode? Na wah o. Shey I don’t use solar in my house?

The whole world is crying save the planet, use less energy, African man says use as much as you can just like with everything else.

Ignorant people..
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 8:55am On Feb 28, 2020
Jamzig1:

But you people have time sha

Lol... I don't come online always, so usually when i come i read up from where i stopped, and along the way air my opinions on issues as i go.

Na today i just come online after almos a week off here.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Dam5reey(m): 8:57am On Feb 28, 2020
Nigeria mentally, we can only Identify problem, but no proper solution..

I'm still waiting for the Ideal set up for 3000 - 5000w Load.

Also how 3 ACs can be run on under 1000Wh.. grin

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 9:02am On Feb 28, 2020
truthbetold22:


This is where you guys are indeed dumb.. my Criticisms May be harsh but in no way shows Jealousy.. I don’t know Niyi, I don’t even know if he is just chest beating. You don’t know me.. you don’t know if u have a 600 amps battery bank.. this is a faceless forum. you just sit there and spew rubbish.. some of us are actually very wealthy and live comfortable lives.. doesn’t stop us from being critical of a set up when it doesn’t jive with common sense.

That you are poor or that you see Niyi’s solar achievements as unsurmountable doesn’t mean other people cannot afford even better..

That I find fault with his system doesn’t mean I cannot afford it..

Stop sounding ignorant.. when you are on a Nigerian forum, u quickly realize why nigeria is like this.. 95% of contributors are so unintelligent that it beggars belief..

Jeez... Trying to justify waste while you complain that ur government is wasteful too.. nigeria will never move forward this way.

There is an efficient method to solar and Niyi’s system can be way batter. 3 air conditioners or not.. you cannot be off grid and use energy guzzling appliances at the same time.. That is foolishness. If you can afford 10 million for panels, you can afford to swap out the rubbish appliances that guzzle that much energy in the first place. He could spend a portion of that money on swapping out electronics and his system will be better for it..

If you don’t know how, keep wallowing in ignorance..


Wow. You don't deserve the honour of a reply bro.... And no mater how much money you have, your attitude is poor.

Very poor and needs adjustment.

Smh...

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Trippledots(m): 9:04am On Feb 28, 2020
truthbetold22:


Fool, your tv brightness only reduces a little and u save energy... What point are you trying to make exactly because you lost me here.. that you won’t enjoy ur tv on energy saving mode? Na wah o. Shey I don’t use solar in my house?

The whole world is crying save the planet, use less energy, African man says use as much as you can just like with everything else.

Ignorant people..

K

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by saint2ace(m): 9:46am On Feb 28, 2020
I hail all the guys here, but i think its also easy to identify a troll, they huff they puff but can't blow out anything. My word of advise "don't feed the troll". Let's just ignore certain comments and keep the thread moving.

Thank you all for the great information and knowledge shared here. Gracias

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by solasola(m): 10:08am On Feb 28, 2020
zeestone99:


I doubt you will get a pure sine wave.
of course not.its a modified sine wave.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dejidotun2000(m): 10:10am On Feb 28, 2020
I sent a mail to Peggy and she sent me a quote for the 3KVA GK series and shipment via fedex.

Was your inverter sent via fedex too and did you have any issues with customs?
ojeysky:


It's official website and official contact. You can also buy off AliExpress if you are in doubt (hopefully they are back)
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by durodee(m): 10:20am On Feb 28, 2020
zeestone99:


Congrats man. I will send my cable underground.
Abi o! Or do remote tapping!! grin grin
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by ojeysky(m): 10:22am On Feb 28, 2020
dejidotun2000:
I sent a mail to Peggy and she sent me a quote for the 3KVA GK series and shipment via fedex.

Was your inverter sent via fedex too and did you have any issues with customs?

Yes and I paid extra 11k for that
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by solasola(m): 10:26am On Feb 28, 2020
Let's try to educate some folks. Thats the reason we are here. Let's analyze niyi 19kw/19000w panel array. Is it really too much.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by goddyior(m): 12:29pm On Feb 28, 2020
Dear nairalanders,
The bluesolar fangpusun solar charge controllers do not have remote temperature cable (RTS) like Epsolar controllers which can be placed close to the batteries for temperature compensation. How will these charge batteries properly?
Are these good?

Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by kiekie1(m): 1:54pm On Feb 28, 2020
goddyior:
Dear nairalanders,
The bluesolar fangpusun solar charge controllers do not have remote temperature cable (RTS) like Epsolar controllers which can be placed close to the batteries for temperature compensation. How will these charge batteries properly?
Are these good?

Don't stress ! It's not a 100% necessity as some scc or inverter systems don't include them .. I've a victron efficiently working without that for years ! Simply avoid installing batteries in an airtight space or hot kitchen/store .. cheer's

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by spartacus11(m): 2:46pm On Feb 28, 2020
solasola:
Let's try to educate some folks. Thats the reason we are here. Let's analyze niyi 19kw/19000w panel array. Is it really too much.

For someone Off-Grid i dont think such a set up is too much

Energy is not cheap anywhere in the world

Whether On-Grid or Off-grid

What happens in the days where wearher condition will be poor for days? Will he have to reduce is energy usage before the weather conditions picks up?

For me if i get the money i go do much more self, if it is too much for only me to use i sell to my neighbourhs.

More over Niyi system is purely for Business (trying out new tech) to know how to advice His customers

At the end that system will pay for itself

So no it is not too much sir

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by spartacus11(m): 3:10pm On Feb 28, 2020
Trippledots:



Maybe you missed where he said he has some lithium installs under his belt, and will like to have real world experience of whatever service he offers to his clients?.... Idk, I'm just saying.

I don't think he is "showing off" as your post seems to imply. Anyone not suffering with some inferiority complex shouldn't be bothered about how many gigawatts of PV another person installs or generates....

I have approximately two 300w pv modules, a 180w battery, a fangpusun MPPT 50/12v and a converted 750w UPS I have been using for a year plus now



(and i observe the 50% DoD rule btw).
It serves me just right, for now and i am happy reading about other people's huge installs and never questioned why someone else spends top dollar for his installation. Especially if he willingly shares his knowledge here_I have been an addict of this thread for years now so i know my setup is "microlly micro". Lol

In your criticisms, your choice of words show jealousy or recklessness of speech. You can do better bro.

Peace

At the highlighted text my next line of action

Get 1 350w panel

1000w Pure sine wave

1 200Ah battery

For my setting room

Why the 100ah and 1000w modified sine wave i currently use will serve the bedroom (will still be charging this with Gen and Nepa

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by TOPAI7(m): 4:01pm On Feb 28, 2020
Well done sir.

This is enviable. Your posts are always inspiring.

Being power independent is the way to go in Nigeria.

We will join you soon.


NiyiOmoIyunade:
I am in between two residences cum office work spaces as we speak.

Current house which doubles as office, I have 7.56kw of panels on the roof made up of 3.96kw of 330w Canadian Solar and 3.6kw of 300w Flames panels.

Loads are 2 1hp ACs and 1 1.5hp AC + a microwave and Freezer and Fridge and Water Dispenser always on. At night we power down to 2 1hp ACs only - the 1.5hp is always off at night.

Base load without ACs are about 700w when you count various fans and lights and assorted equipment always on. Add on the ACs and I easily see up to 4kw of load. The historic highest I have seen (limited by 8kva Victron inverter is about 6,000w of load).

New location has 7.7kw of panels - Canadian Solar 385w (20pcs) on the ground mount/car port - This car port is approximately 19m by 4.3m and can park 4 to 5 cars easy. When we finish moving house, the Flames Solar panels will relocate from current location to our permanent base and will sit on thesame car port - car port can take 36 panels of which 20 spaces are already taken by the 385w panels and 16 spaces are left for the Flames once we mount the Flames, 4 slots will be left for later expansion.

New location also has a flat concrete roof of which 3.6kw of Canadian Solar Panels are being mounted here and then will move the 3.96kw of Canadian Solar from current location to permanent base on thesame roof.

So we will end up with 7.7 + 3.96 + 3.6kw = 15.26kw of Canadian Solar panels + 3.6kw of Flames for a total of 18.86kw.

If I can sell the Flames for a good price and go all Canadian Solar then I will - I keep saying I got to 19kw by a happy accident - the target was 15kw of panels but we were doing December year end count and I found 12 pcs Canadian Solar 300w panels neatly packaged for transport in my store but not owing them to anyone grin I must have overbought when I was stocking up.

To loads we will have 2units 2hp ACs + 1 Unit 1.5hp + 2 Units 1hp AC running. All this cooling is required for very large rooms and moderate traffic during the day. At night only about 3hp of ACs will run but always a base load of 800w + another 200w for security lights at night will run. Also a pressure pump of 0.5hp is always on and ready to work plus a 1hp pump that comes on ocassionally.

All these loads at the permanent base will run off the 15Kva Victron with the 8kva just resting as backup. I had to use a robust distribution bus apart from the DBs to make the 15kva single phase Victron serve all the dedicated inverter DBs which are all 3 phase.

To folks who have requested pictures, I will provide once the system is final in one location and photo worthy.

I foresee an additional 6 to 8 PylonTech bricks to take us to 40kwh of storage grin

Remember I said the business is seeing increased interest in premium Lithium - it is key we have running systems similar to what our clients demand so we can give them the best support and service.


After running a few months I will optimise the entire installation for loads and everything else - in the few days I have been playing with the Pylon Techs I have glimpsed a few insights which I will share to the house later, I even now have the Pylon Tech supervisor software which allows firmware updates and precise monitoring and control of the BMS and each individual cell via a console connection - all this experimentation and learning cannot be done on a client's production system.


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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by zeestone99(m): 4:58pm On Feb 28, 2020
solasola:
of course not.its a modified sine wave.

How do you cope using it with fans.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 7:20pm On Feb 28, 2020
This is one of the flaws of Victron - they want to sell you a gizmo for every single thing.

In the bluesolars there is an inbuilt temperature sensor. However it does not measure battery temperature, it measures ambient temperature at the start of bulk charging (usually in the mornings) and sets temperature regulation for the rest of the day based on that measurement - if you are cool in the morning and things get warmer during the day, the batteries will still be overcharged.

Victron says it only makes sense to check temperature in the mornings/and or before charging begins while the CC internals are still cool or else the readings will be off.

Alternatively, Victron sells a VE.Direct to bluetooth dongle that you can plug into the bluesolar VE.Direct port of the CC to give it bluetooth capabilities. Couple this with a Victron smart battery sense and the smart battery sense will send accurate battery voltage and temperature readings via bluetooth to the CC. This is the least cost professional method to achieve accurate temperature compensated charging with a Victron bluesolar CC. One drawback is that you give up your VE.Direct port on the CC and can no longer connect to a GX device.

The best all round solution albeit most expensive is to purchase a GX device (the Venus is an excellent choice) and then a BMV 702 or other model with temperature sense and then connect both CC and BMV to the GX device. Enable DVCC and SVS and STS (shared temperature sense) on the GX and set the BMV as your one source of battery voltage and temperature. The GX will use this information to finetune the CC's temperature compensated charge response precisely.

***Begin Edit***

All the above methods I have personally experienced and used extensively. There is also an option to attach a special dedicated temperature sensor to your GX device - the required sensor is ASS000001000 - Temperature Sensor QUA/PMP/Venus GX. (Note that this is not the same as the BMV temperature accessory.) Going the GX managed device route is Victron's preferred professional solution. Again a new dedicated gizmo for one very specific task and so much confusion with so many accessories which may not work across all scenarios.

***End Edit***

This is my pet peeve with Victron, although robust and easy to configure, they sell way too many specialty devices to do a simple task. A skilled installer or competent DIYer is always required.

If you want to keep it simple, simply manually set your CC voltage to the correct level for your general ambient temperature - you can do this every season change.

It is pertinent to note that with Victron's default adaptive charging algorithm, they already absorb for too short a time to do any significant damage to your battery even with no temperature compensation unless you depleted the bank well below 50%


goddyior:
Dear nairalanders,
The bluesolar fangpusun solar charge controllers do not have remote temperature cable (RTS) like Epsolar controllers which can be placed close to the batteries for temperature compensation. How will these charge batteries properly?
Are these good?

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mank1234(m): 9:43pm On Feb 28, 2020
Exactly, a run through of his past post in other threads reveals his true identity.

saint2ace:
I hail all the guys here, but i think its also easy to identify a troll, they huff they puff but can't blow out anything. My word of advise "don't feed the troll". Let's just ignore certain comments and keep the thread moving.

Thank you all for the great information and knowledge shared here. Gracias

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by saint2ace(m): 9:50pm On Feb 28, 2020
mank1234:
Exactly, a run through of his past post in other threads reveals his true identity.


Smart man wink
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Malevonent: 9:57pm On Feb 28, 2020
Malevonent:
what could be the cause and solution.
some cells in my flooded mecury 12v 220ah battery, need topping up before others, i top them up 2 or 3 times...before i top up the others.
has anyone expereienced this and what is the possible cause and remedey

i tot, the shenanigans is over, the brouhahah has ended : hahaha
mek somebori helep me chook mouth for this mata abeg,
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by dejidotun2000(m): 11:13pm On Feb 28, 2020
ojeysky:

Yes and I paid extra 11k for that
Thanks.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by mctfopt: 3:46am On Feb 29, 2020
Malevonent:
what could be the cause and solution.
some cells in my flooded mecury 12v 220ah battery, need topping up before others, i top them up 2 or 3 times...before i top up the others.
has anyone expereienced this and what is the possible cause and remedey


What are you topping it up with? And when do you too it up?
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Saipro(m): 6:55am On Feb 29, 2020
NiyiOmoIyunade:
This is one of the flaws of Victron - they want to sell you a gizmo for every single thing.

It is pertinent to note that with Victron's default adaptive charging algorithm, they already absorb for too short a time to do any significant damage to your battery even with no temperature compensation unless you depleted the bank well below 50%

...

I often fear my batteries aren't getting enough charge as the Midnite Classic with WizBang Jr and End-Amps monitoring still charges the batteries a bit longer than the BlueSolars (even with End-Amps monitoring on the Victrons).
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by NiyiOmoIyunade(m): 7:37am On Feb 29, 2020
My Oga.

The battery charging philosophy is much like cooking a steak - some chefs (Victron) like it very rare and half cooked/semi raw. Other chefs (MorningStar and Midnite) believe a steak has to be thoroughly cooked.

Each will argue endlessly about which approach is best for the battery and quote tons of research on battery charge voltage and length of absorb time vs. battery capacity vs battery life.


Saipro:


I often fear my batteries aren't getting enough charge as the Midnite Classic with WizBang Jr and End-Amps monitoring still charges the batteries a bit longer than the BlueSolars (even with End-Amps monitoring on the Victrons).

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Codedboy95(m): 8:45am On Feb 29, 2020
Hi guys, I need help, I am in need of an inverter that can charge my laptop and also power my monitor ( 22" ) for atleast 6-7hrs ( my laptop gets to full charge within 2hrs), I read some few pages back and saw someone quoted a LUMINOUS DELITE
https://www.thesimbaden.com/product/delite/

Please will that be enough ? Or even more than enough ? If it will be more than enough I have a 50" tv ( I only use for Netflix once in a while ) and a PS4 Pro ( I rarely play).

Or do you have any other recommendation ? my budget is 100k and the main thing I need it to Power is just the monitor and laptop.
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by gabon(m): 9:33am On Feb 29, 2020
Dam5reey:
Nigeria mentally, we can only Identify problem, but no proper solution..

I'm still waiting for the Ideal set up for 3000 - 5000w Load.

Also how 3 ACs can be run on under 1000Wh.. grin

What you are asking for is not a challenge.... Call me on 07035588336 or Whatsapp me for solution
Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by eleojo23: 10:34am On Feb 29, 2020
gabon:


What you are asking for is not a challenge.... Call me on 07035588336 or Whatsapp me for solution

Mbanu! Your are not following...grin

Go back and read from like 3 pages before this to get the gist.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by solasola(m): 12:34pm On Feb 29, 2020
zeestone99:


How do you cope using it with fans.
When i used those modified, i had dc fans, but i dont use it anymore.

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Re: Solar Energy, A Complement To FTA by Saipro(m): 12:48pm On Feb 29, 2020
NiyiOmoIyunade:
...

Each will argue endlessly about which approach is best for the battery and quote tons of research on battery charge voltage and length of absorb time vs. battery capacity vs battery life.
I concur. Bottom line, my batteries seem fine. Lead chemistries are more than a bit less forgiving of partial charge states compared to Lithium chemistries, thus my worry.

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